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i am having deja-vu. we were here last year. The past is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but I'm still having a vuja-de (seeing the future) and it looks like I'm gonna need shades.

Just because I give a clarifying answer doesn't mean I am not smiling. Sorry if I offended you, but I am educated and I like to share info if I see someone is off-track. After I get off DV, I usually lmfao at some of the insanity here!

.....Huh? What does Obama have to do with this? If he says Iraq(i) it is because he is referring to something belonging to the country... like its people, its government, its economy, etc. The name server, or DNS address is where Tampa Dinar website is hosted... not necessarily owned. They could be one in the same, but one doesn't imply the other. Even though a site is hosted doesn't mean it is active. Often the domain name is parked for a while until such time as a business is developed. Also, domain sellers often purchase domain names thinking they will make money selling it later when a new demand arises. I have sold many domain names this way. Cheap to buy, profitable to sell at the right time.

Thanks for the link. I listened. It's a good recording filled with reason and logic. No rumors!

Forget about your investment and give up your anxiety, rage, and negative thinking. You are just scared. You can't think straight when you react from fear. If you put your dinar away .... completely out of sight.... as I have, you will scarcely ever think about them. Then stop reading the boards. Stop listening to dinar chats. Stop researching, stop googling the rates. Pull out man! Chill. Now... breathe.... and just wait. Your life will be much more satisfying. You don't need to be aggravated on a daily basis. Just forget about it, and enjoy your life and keep your dinar. Someday, you will be a happy person with a fat bank account.

Sorry, but I have to respond to this. GinaG, is this the truth? I thought we were invited to answer with the TRUTH. Yours is an opinion not based on any known facts.

Okie isn't the problem. He is a ficticious character created on behalf of the propaganda machine. Believe me, propaganda is alive and well within Dinar-land. As a recent member of this board, but a long-term speculator, I have watched the caliber of propaganda shift and change with the people who enter the circle from year to year. It's almost as if the two are feeding off each other. There is great energy of anger and desperation. So many people are facing financial disasters in their lives. They want to blame something outside themselves. The president, political parties, politicians, etc. That is only because, to believe they may have contributed to their own demise is absolutely unfathomable to them. To believe they could have become proactive and made other choices is not something they will admit. So they hang on the words of pumpers and gurus hoping their day is coming soon and their nightmare will end. I believe these are the people who are most affected by Okie and the others. In their desperation, they've spent money on a long-shot gamble, hoping the man on the white horse would arrive. I have great compassion for those who hang on every word, ride the roller coaster, and get dumped on their butts week after week. Even as I took a harsh bashing last week in this forum, I still felt compassion for who was bashing me... many desperate people who need to blame others for their situations. And I saw that as long as pumpers can get your emotions aroused, they will continue to stir the pot because it is good for business. Now, we don't know if it is only dinar sales, or something much greater, like a conspiracy cover-up. Something to think about. The propaganda machine is well-oiled and doing what SOMEONE wants it to do, and it works as long as YOU LET IT WORK. If you fall prey, it is your own choice. If it continues, it is because SOMEONE is getting what they want from you. Even if you are mad, you are still doing what the propaganda was designed to do -- engage you and capture your attention. Stop pointing to others and start pointing at your own life and assumptions. And stop giving the gurus your attention. Then take this ride in stride. I truly believe it will be worth the effort in the long run and we will all be very happy.

Yeah, please don't kill the writer. He has a family to support. He's a wage slave like most of us. I am a writer. Here's what happens. Often we submit a good, well-documented story and the editor makes decisions to cut/edit based upon the interests of the corporate sponsors. If the corporados don't like what gets published they pull their advertising $$s and the magazine loses money. Maybe the writer wanted to discuss taxes, or maybe he wanted to discuss more, but I venture a guess that by the time the article got published, it was reduced to a watered-down, namby-pamby attempt to draw some kind of attention to Dinar without ever admitting the writer or publisher believes or supports Dinar. Actually, I would see this article as generally favorable. FYI: FORBES Readers: 5,383,000 age 25-55 About half of the readers are college graduates Average income level: $150,000 + Millionaire households who read Forbes: 535,000 Annual ad revenues: $400 mil.+

I wish it were more D values, but I rather think there are more R values involved in the Dinar from what I have observed.

Your outline is both pessimistic and optimistic at the same time. But I like it. It sheds much-needed light on something probably few even think about, and that is possible "retribution" by the Iraqis. Could this be part of the delays? Just saying.... I remember reading about Al Qaeda/Bin Laden... one of their primary goals was to bring the USA to its knees, not just with overt acts of terrorism, but by forcing the government to drain off their financial resources in order to counter-act terrorism through military involvement and extraordinary spending. In other words, weaken our government through its wallet. Do we see evidence of that happening currently? Is it possible Iraq might consider this, too? I believe If you add this possibility as item number 10, you will have pretty good analysis. Of course, I hold out for the end result, #11, where we all party in the streets.

This is currency SPECULATION, not an investment. The term, "speculation," contrasts with the term "investment," which is a financial operation that promises safety of principal and a satisfactory return. You will only get what the currency is worth at any given time based on many unknown and unpredictable factors. So man-up and identify yourself as a financial speculator. Basically, those of us who own dinar are gamblers. In this game there are no guarantees. Sorry if someone told you otherwise. True, your pieces of paper will be worth SOMETHING whenever you exchange them, but that might not buy you a dinner at Mickie D's. On the other hand, it might buy you the keys to the kingdom. Expect the unexpected. And as always, positive thinking can't hurt.

Thank you for an intelligent post. I've studied the movement of money since the beginning of agriculture. Interesting how the same few, but extremely powerful controlling forces have shaped every president and head-of-state, every country's polities, and every global economy right up to the present moment -- even orchestrating the so called "budget crises" that have occurred globally, nationally and statewide. All this manipulation makes one feel like a pawn on the chess board. It is refreshing to read something founded on facts -- not hearsay or rumors. I am not certain this will be accepted by the masses. Many don't want to see anything other than their limited, dumbed-down world view.

Hey Old Guy, I own millions of dinar, and want the RV as much as you do. That is why I came to this forum. That's the ONLY reason.

Thank you RockStar. This is my thinking exactly.

Ultra Moron ....! Not Ultra Maroon! Now I understand who writes on these boards. A bunch of maroons! It's all in good fun for me. I am a writer, and just wanting to understand this section of American.

He wants to tax the wealthy right now so that when you are old and broken down you will have something to fall back on because your pension is worthless thanks to Wall Street, and your family is broke. So when your grandmother can't pay her heating bills, Obama wants to have safety nets to help her. Your children will someday inherit a balanced budget if all goes according to what the Obama administration wants to do. Right now things are tense, agreed! Innocent Americans are still paying the price for two wars started by BushCo for reasons you will never fully understand. We are paying for a prescription drug subsidy program that benefits big Pharma but only mildly benefits all Americans. It was a hasty political move on the part of GW and wasn't carefully thought out by our previous administration. Show me any American who DOESN'T SPEND MORE THAN THEY BRING IN.... it's called credit cards and loans. How many Americans have defaulted on their credit cards? Or their mortgages? The problem is not just with this president. It is with all Americans. Can't find a job? Thank GW. Can't pay your bills? Thank GW. Get extended unemployment benefits so your family can eat for another month? Thank Obama. JMO

A national disgrace we all share, not because we directly contributed to this insanity, but because we the people have diverted our eyes for too long, seeing only what we wanted to see. If the RV occurs, I certainly hope the Iraqi people will be restored to their full dignity and national pride and are able to put American corporatism in its proper place.

In reality, most serious investors seldom visit their investment dynamics daily/hourly as we do... hoping for news. This behavior makes us vulnerable and a target for those who would lie, cheat, and steal from us. We can be smarter than the deceivers. We can stop hanging on their every word, and use critical thinking about what we are being told. Usually, the deceit is in plain view if we ask the hard questions...

Aren't we all Americans because we LIVE HERE in the USA? I guarantee you I am an American of the highest caliber, and I'll bet we have nothing in common about our American dreams. You speak blasphemy about Disability. Know the facts about that compensation. It is NOT FREE MONEY. Some people have worked hard all their lives and paid into the system that gives them a pittance of compensation when they are most vulnerable. For all their years of contributions, the government has made billions of dollars in interest, and practically make the applicant jump through hoops to get any of it back. Those who have contributed their hard-earned dollars and who now ask for assistance due to injury or illness are struggling on the VERY SMALL MONTHLY ALLOTMENTS. That is certainly not the American dream they hoped for when they were able-bodied. You try living on $600 mo. or so. Not a very pretty picture, wouldn't you agree? Anyway, judge not that ye be judged. And, aren't we all our brothers' keepers? I believe we all need to help each other. I am already providing work for many people through my 3 small businesses. And I also donate my time and skills to help others get new businesses off the ground, and provide free coaching for life changes. If I can help someone get off disability and into a job they can do with their limitations, I will certainly do that too. With or without RV.

Some of my closest friends are covert investigative journalists. It's pretty hard to get their support on this investment. Mostly, they say the ones who are making all the money are the dinar dealers, the website owners, and the investment advisors. They maintain that if RV was going to happen, SOMEONE would leak the real intel and the word would have gotten out on a much more viral level. They consider my investment foolish. I consider it brilliant. I am still a believer!

I wouldn't mind if you left the title because I do like your posts and go right to them when they show up. I have never understood (or appreciated) why you misspell "guarantee" as "gaurantee." Is this a regional dialect or a mistake?

Just say NO to reactionary thinking. Nothing is real and nothing to get hung about.

Thank you! I know enough about the Law of Attraction to know that the power of focused thought changes reality. Prayer is exactly the same thing. I say my daily prayers by reading rumors and getting excited! My snobbish intellectual/political friends couldn't stand me being so happy -- wanted to debunk the whole investment. So I changed friends. Part of the best thing about this investment is the daily dose of Happiness I get from dreaming the RV is going to happen "tomorrow." Yeah, and I do know a lot of the stuff is just BS. But sometimes there is a jewel of truth in some of those fabrications. This lets me dream. It's important we know the truth but I much prefer the fairy tale, where we all live happily ever after.

I remember when people said the same things about GW. The difference, as I see it, when GW lied, people died. And when GW ran the government, we lost billions of natural resources to multinational corporations, our economy became toast, the working classes lost jobs, the bankers became multi-billionaires, the oil companies raped and ravaged the land and sea, and the only ones getting ahead in life where those who played the game on the dirty side. And when GW was in charge, there was evidence of a shadow covert government. Whew! All that, and more was inherited by the person you want to impeach or vote out in 2012 only to be replaced by another evil administration. I think our current administration is trying very hard to improve America by neutralizing the damage that has already been done, and trying very hard not to create more problems. But they are stopped by the very party you support. What's up with that? What is good for Americans is to be free of party politics and let true freedom, common sense, good balance, and opportunities prevail without battling control issues. If you start looking for crimes against humanity, look no further than those who have run the world in the past. And, by the way, it is my understanding that NO SITTING PRESIDENT has as much power as we might think. They answer to a much greater power. Check the facts and shoot from the hip where warranted. And don't stop at the Presidency. Follow the money.