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I could see why this right here would get us all ruffled! But we have also heard this before......But then again ....it has not rv'd before either

MAN! TerryK Is really gonna pee his pants when this thing does happen! :lol:

Well....ALL intel so far has been 100% wrong.........so when someone says intel, now I just laugh! :lol:

Yeah, so it's the 27th now.....Didn't his message say I hope they trust me?????? HAHAHAHA That's very funny!

Do we know if the reading happened last night?

Thanks Ron! Love to hear from Frank!

Because of your freaky little eyes that's why you!!! now me, I only have "A" freaky little eye :lol: I think it was a van :lol:

Why are you mean?

That is absolutely not the truth Flavius Josephus: He was a Jewish historian who was born in 37 CE. He wrote a book, Antiquities of the Jews circa 93 CE, probably between the times when Luke and John were written. He described Jesus' as a wise man who was crucified by Pilate. Cornelius Tacitus: He was a Roman historian who lived from 55 to 120 CE and wrote a book Annals, circa 112 CE. McDowell and Stewart accept his writings as a strong indicator of Jesus' existence in the early 1st century Flavius Josephus (c. 37–c. 100), a Jew and Roman citizen who worked under the patronage of the Flavians, wrote the Antiquities of the Jews in 93 AD. In these works, Jesus is mentioned twice, though scholars debate their authenticity. The one directly concerning Jesus has come to be known as the Testimonium Flavianum. There are more writings of people who knew Jesus than many many other well known historical figures, to say he didn't even exist.............sorry but that is just a lie. You may be able to question weather He was resurrected, or He is the son of God, question if He has the key to salvation, but you certainly cannot question if He existed. That would be the same as saying that the Japan earth quake never really happened regardless of the countless news articles and eye witnesses there are about it.

umbertino- God Himself will prove to you He is real.....But the ball is in your court, He is God He doesn't have to do anything, but He also loves you more incredibly than you know. So now, stop spitting in the face of your creator, and show Him that you are serious about wanting to know Him, and prove it to Him. I guarantee He will show himself to you, in ways that only you could know. I wish you could understand how much he loves you

I think people on this earth think of death in the wrong way, they think of it as the wrong that is done to humanity, when truly in death is where the real life begins....We think of an aborted baby as being such a horrible thing for the baby, when in reality an innocent soul goes straight to Jesus (to be absent from the body is to be present with Christ) The real pain is on the one left behind, the person who has to live with the reality of what they have done. The friend that you so desperately cried out to the Lord to save, who instead went to be with the Lord, may have suffered on this earth for a time, but it is just a blink in comparison to eternity....Now you are the one left to make sense of it all, to work it out , to learn from it.Why do we think of this life as such a great thing, worthy to be considered one of the most valuable things we would ever fight for? Because we don't understand God and eternity.Maybe some have died because God was saving them from further atrocities in their lives.We don't know, and I don't know all the answers either.But like I said,you now are the one left behind to try and make sense of it all....God gave you a resource book to help you find your way, to lead you to repentance, to forgiveness, to the only things that truly make you free while you walk as a man on this earth.Why do bad things happen to good people? Well some because they are stiff necked and try to tell the potter what to do with the clay. I have had many spankings for this behavior myself.Sometimes it is to show God's glory, and I know that is hard to believe, but its true. If God did everything for us, and showed himself 100% we would have no choice but to believe in Him would we? Some things have to be a mystery, or we would no longer have free will. But in that, will we still kill and steal, and have wars, and cheat.....on the other hand.....We love and help and serve, and grow, and forgive, and save. We have to see the gifts that God gives to us, and stand on the promise that He gives to those who love Him(key phrase I have learned here,"To those who LOVE Him) I'm sorry you don't love Him, but if you did...In that love you would find comfort, and peace, and forgiveness, and wholeness, and a light at the end of the tunnel, weather or not this thing RVs, you would have a hope for a future, because you would know the secret of life is really in hoping for the life to come. I am praying for you on this thread who have been hurt by God, and I'm asking Him to reveal himself to you. love T

It's not God's fault that we chose to do the opposite of what God created us to do. Just like when your momma told you not to sit on the arm of the chair, because that was not it's purpose-It would break We(our world) is broken, because God cannot be a liar, and if you hold him to saving all the people who are dying from generational curses because of sin committed, because of doing what God asked them not to do , and gave them consequences for doing ..........so if you hold him to saving us here on this earth after he gave us all of the rules, and He DOES save us from ourselves........then you have made God out to be a liar....What kind of God can be a liar? It was our fault not His, and the fault of folks like you and me that gave God a reason to send His son, because we refuse to just do the things that He told us we must do. That's why you must believe, and you really want to, you just keep running because your logic tells you that it isn't right, like I said test Him and prove to me that He is not real.

You know you just want to believe capike, just like everyone ...........go ahead and test Him and see that He doesn't poor out tremendous blessing on you.So much so that you cannot even contain it all.

I AGREE thanks for the post!

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Just wanted to let you all know, I went through all of these and plussed each one as I prayed for them, and then I ran out of plusses, and continued to the end. Praying for you all. Thank you for the post.Expect miracles- He is God, and He does answer, regardless if you believe or not. If you were one of the ones who don't believe in Him, I prayed that He would reveal himself to you in a way that you could not deny His presence. God bless you all.

hm, ok , thanks for the post....somethings to think about I guess! Hope it's going to happen soon!

hmmm, I find your ideas of who Christians are is very sad, I'm sorry you feel that we have no brains, don't do any research of other religions........Hey probably can't even tie our own shoes......I guess we will just have to wear Velcro :lol: If I think about it, I even surprise myself that I can spell and understand the human language.hanya orang yang sangat bodoh menganggap hal-hal begitu mudah.............Seul le sot croit qu'ils connaissent quelqu'un juste par un titre qu'ils portent..........Tener una vida maravillosa "God will marry the things you know with his knowledge. That is how it is done." How do you know this???

HEY SCOOTER! Thanks for the headache hahaha Just kidding! Really great stuff in here! I have always known about the oil here in the US it's amazing how much our government does not tell us! Or just makes light of I should say! Great piece of work though...Thank you for all of your hard work and time, so that folks like me can get the condensed versions and be adrift of it all.

I understand what you are saying, but you still have not given me any proof or basis of what you are saying is the truth, and you haven't addressed the fact that there are hundreds of writings not in the Bible the concur with what the Bible reads Including much of what you are using as a rebuttal which are the dead sea scrolls. I can only judge by concrete evidence...By cross-referencing what one person says against the other, not by some idea that comes up in my head.....My head can think up a whole myriad of untruths, and my mouth can speak them.....They are founded on nothing. I can't give any significance in this debate. I'm sorry,you feel the need to make it difficult for me. I don't have that feeling for you in my heart.God says, in His word which is the only thing that has been preserved through the ages that I found can be held with value, Mark 10:15 (New King James Version) 15 Assuredly, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God as a little child will by no means enter it." .So when you say the simple minded come to Christ, you are very right, and that is what it takes... to have faith in the unseen. His word also has says thatJohn 8:32 (New International Version, ©2011)31- Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed him," If you abide in my word, you are my disciples indeed.32- Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” So I guess I would ask you...even IF I could show you how the Bible was true, without a shadow of a doubt THEN would you believe? If I thought you would I would sit here and spend my time everyday to win you over to Him....and you are so very right when you say, That Jesus loves you anyway. He does, He loved you so much He took your punishment so that you could be free forever with him.Nothing you could do could make Him not love you that much, and nothing you could do could make him love you any less...Now the ball is in your court...You have to receive that....But until you receive all that He has said(Bible) you can not say that Jesus loves you because you don't understand what that love even means.You can't claim someone you don't even believe exists or has any type deity loves you.That would be like saying Obama loves me....to what advantage is that in eternity? love T

Your soul exists in Heaven just as Elijah is in Heaven. Part of your soul goes to earth and is born as a child just as John the Baptist was born. When your body dies it will be nevermore...it had it's 1 life to live. But you the real You that is in Heaven will send another piece of itself to earth which will be born to another woman with a new name. A new chance for your soul but again that body will only live once. Where did you get this bit of information. I would have to see proof of this in order to give it any credibility, backed by scripture, since that is what we are using to judge in this conversation. the Bible is quite clear that John the Baptist is given this designation because he came in the “spirit and power of Elijah” (Luke 1:17), not because he was Elijah in a literal sense. John the Baptist is the New Testament forerunner who points the way to the arrival of the Lord, just as Elijah filled that role in the Old Testament (and will again in the future – see Revelation 11). Third, Elijah himself appears with Moses at Jesus’ transfiguration after John the Baptist’s death. This would not have happened if Elijah had changed his identity (Matthew 17:11-12). Here are some scriptures that back up a no reincarnation theory Genesis 3:19 By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return." I believe He is talking about your flesh here. But after this the judgment - They shall die but once, and be judged but once, therefore there is no metempsychosis, no transmigration from body to body; judgment succeeds to dying; and as they shall be judged but once, they can die but once. It makes no sense if you are reincarnated to be judged over and over-The point here, is that You will NEVER be good enough on this earth to DESERVE to go to heaven. You will actually only be judged on one thing.Did you accept the free gift of my son that I crucified for your atonement? or NOT? It's so very simple, but as humans want to think that God has some kind of unattainable language that we could not possibly grasp until we have lived here long enough to finally get it! Thank you for a great debate, I have so much more to share with you, but I am doubting that the others on here are wanting to join in ...But you can always message me, I would love to speak further with you. May you find what you are looking for. PS- I like you too! That would be ok too, if I could only discount the thousands of writing by hundreds of personal hands on accounts and testimony's of His healings,resurrecting dead people, speaking to trees and them withering. Check it out. It's not just the Bible that has these historical writings, it's writing after writing of ordinary folks like you and me that wrote things they saw down. Why do you think they call our History history...because it is just that HIS story. I f you discount these writings, I would say logically, you would have to discount ALL of the writings in the history books we read today.

The Bible is a hosh posh of scripture that has been edited and distorted. Sorry, Typically I would just sit back and read this stuff, but I can say with all honesty,that THIS saying right here is just not true!I dare you to study the Bible and prove me wrong here. I have over 35 years experience in studying the scriptures to prove to myself they are either right or wrong, and have come to the conclusion that there is NO WAY a bunch of "hosh posh" writings could come together in such complete perfection as do the writings in the Bible.That is just not true. Not trying to get your feathers in a ruffle, but I have to speak that which I know to be true. You have to know here, that Elijah did NOT see death, In 2 Kings 2:2 He was taken up in a whirlwind....Therefore, he would not be in consideration for reincarnation. He is believed to be one of the end times prophets who will return to earth(Revelation 11:3-4) to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ to the nation of Israel, and the whole world......I have more on Elijah if you would like to hear more.

That's really too bad

If you were to read the Bible you would understand that this is absolutely what is happening.When man chose to sin, God gave the world over to it and to the devil....only for a time....Now, God's people are still under God's authority, but when Jesus was being tempted of the devil he said, "Bow to me and I will give you all that you see for it has been given to me."Jesus has conquered all of that through His death and resurrection, but God is allowing it for a while. the devil can only do what God allows him to do. I'm very sorry about your son. My heart hurts right now for you. I can't even imagine the pain.......I am very very sorry...Are you mad at God?