what's Adam Montana's take on bravo 11's opinion of the rv

[PartyTime]

I'm voting to save America. I'm voting for the middle class. I'm voting for someone with the best voting record in Washington. I'm voting for RON PAUL.

Tell your friends, tell your family, tell the random person who sparks up the conversation of politics. TELL EVERYONE

Ask Ron Paul if he were elected if he would end all national declared emergenicies? And ask him he would do anything to obolish the corporate government and restore our republican form of government. Ask him he would go back to the original constitution instead of using this District of Columbia constitution they used to replace out original constitution with. Ask him if elected if he would tell the American people the truth and ensure their debts will be properly discharged under the terms of the bankruptcy FDR placed this country into.

I have no doubt he is aware of all this, but the question is, what is he willing to do about it if he were elected POTUS? Although I know there isn't much he can do even if POTUS because the bankers will take him out just like they did with past Presidents.

[imgesing]

True, its definately not an overnight thing.....and the way the Iraqis work, hell they might need 4 years to design and approve of a new currency

Unless it was done years ago... Right?

Just saying. We can all follow the smoke (news)...

[Profjim]

I'm voting to save America. I'm voting for the middle class. I'm voting for someone with the best voting record in Washington. I'm voting for RON PAUL.

Tell your friends, tell your family, tell the random person who sparks up the conversation of politics. TELL EVERYONE

What gives you the right to vote for the president of a corporation in which you hold NO stock?

[jacobm]

"To RV a currency they have to be able to support the RV with the proper amount and denomination of currency."

What do you think a fiat currency printed out of thin air is backed by?

They are setting Iraq up based on the same system we are on here. Do you understand how our system is set up? There is no gold or silver anymore. We no longer use MONEY as a currency. We use DEBT as a currency. Our entire system is based on nothing but CREDIT and DEBT. Do you know where all the credit comes from? It comes from us, the PEOPLE! We are the CREDITORS that back and support this Nation. Governments are the DEBTORS that spend our credit to function. The wholoe thing is based on nothing but credit and debt. There is NO MONEY! And this is exactly how a bankruptcy works. Creditr vs Debt VS Discharge of the Debt!

So where do WE get this credit from? It all comes from our LABOR! We the People are the one's that produce everything into existence. Without us and our labor nothing would exist. No products of any kind and no services of any kind. Since FDR took our MONEY from us by executive order in 1933 and confiiscated EVERYTHING, all our MONEY and ALL our PROPERTY we have been running everything under a bankruptcy ever since where all we have is OUR CREDIT and ALL PROPERTY to pledge to the STATE. STATE being, federal government, State governments, County governments and City/township governments. EVERYTHING, and I mean EVERYTHING you acquire is vested in the STATE! The STATE uses everything to securitze so they can generate all the funds they need to operate on and pay ALL the bills!

This includes securitizing YOUR lifetime of labor which is what they use the birth certificate for. Every single birth certificate is BONDED based on the average lifetime of wealth that the average man and woman will generate for the STATE! This includes all forms of taxes, all property you will acquire that the STATE can use to securitize against, which is based on an average of about $1 million per every child born in this country.

It kinda funny when someone with knowledge like PartyTime brings this and then suddenly less intelligent people finally stop talking about things they know nothing about!!

Thank you for explaining to people on this forum and maybe this will make keep and bravo open their eyes a little.

WE the PEOPLE are not paid a penny for our labor. We are issued nothing but a PROMISE TO PAY, but we are never paid a dime. Federal Reserve NOTES are exactly what they say they are, a NOTE! A NOTE is a promise to pay. An IOU. A DEBT instrument!

You CANNOT pay a DEBT with another DEBT! And because there is NO MONEY the ONLY way a DEBT can be settled is by DISCHARGING the DEBT! The ONLY way a DEBT can be DISCHARGED is through BANKRUPTCY. The United States has been operating under a chapter 11 bankruptcy since 1933. This is WHY FDR had to confiscate ALL the gold from the people and ALL PROPERTY in the United States! So they could hand over ALL the gold to the federal reserve which is owned by private bankers, which they did. Over $60 Billion in gold which the federal reserve took and shipped it all over seas.

Every federal reserve NOTE that is used to acquire any property is an automatic LIEN against that property until the federal reserve NOTES are paid back in GOLD! And since not a penny of any taxes collected are ever used to pay back any PRINCIPAL on that DEBT and it all only goes to pay just the INTEREST owed to keep servicing that DEBT, the DEBT can never be paid or settled! The ONLY way that DEBT can ever be settled is through proper DISCHARGE OF THAT DEBT, which is exactly how a bankruptcy works! Only WE the PEOPLE being the TRUE CREDITORS of the Nation can be able to DISCHARGE the DEBT and WE have not been doing that which is WHY the debt is now over $650 TRILLION, it isn't just the $14 trillion everyone is being fed about, it is over $650 TRILLION which represents every penny ever borrowed from the federal reserve private banks ever since the 1933 bankruptcy!

Well this is exactly how they are setting up Iraq now. To become another bankrupt Nation under the control of private bankers which is exactly where the IMF comes into this. The IMF is owned and controlled by the same banking cartel that owns the private federal reserve, along with the World Bank, The Treasury, the IRS, etc! The IRS is a collection agency for the federal reserve, it is NOT a government agency like everyone thinks.

So when you stated: "To RV a currency they have to be able to support the RV with the proper amount and denomination of currency." This is what I replied to because their paper currency is just that, PAPER backed by nothing but the credit of the people. When this RV's and Iraq starts pumping away, what will the average lifetime CREDIT of the People be worth then? Much more than it is here for us!

While the People are being freed from a dictator they are being replaced by enslavement to a private banking cartel that will have a LIEN against everything that exists in Iraq just the same as they do here in this country and every other country around the world that is under this same fiat system under the IMF, UN, World Bank, Etc.....

People are still under the ILLUSION we have a REPUBLICAN form of government. Wrong! We have a private for profit corporation that has overthrown our republican form of government and every STATE is now merged as part of that parent corporation which they ALL come under the control of the UN. Why do you think Hilary ran to the UN over Arizona trying to pas their own State law on their imigration problem? Because Arizona like all the 50 States relinquisyhed their State sovereignty over to the UN back in 1945. That is why!

Under the TREATIES of 49 stat. 3097; Treaty Series 881 CONVENTION ON RIGHTS AND DUTIES OF STATES and 1945 IOIA –That the International Organizations Act of December 29, 1945 (59 Stat. 669; Title 22, Sections 288 to 2886 U.S.C.) the US relinquished every office and placed every public office in a FOREIGN STATE under International Law under the United Nations Jurisdiction! Every single public official relinquishes their US citizenship upon their oath to office and becomes a FOREIGNH AGENT! They are no longer US citizens!

OATH OF OFFICE MAKES PUBLIC OFFICIALS “FOREIGN”

1. Those holding Federal or State public office, county or municipal office, under the Legislative, Executive or Judicial branch, including Court Officials, Judges, Prosecutors, Law Enforcement Department employees, Officers of the Court, and etc., before entering into these public offices, are required by the U.S. Constitution and statutory law to comply with Title 5 USC, Sec. §3331, “Oath of office.” State Officials are also required to meet this same obligation, according to State Constitutions and State statutory law.

2. All oaths of office come under 22 CFR, Foreign Relations, Sections §§92.12 - 92.30, and all who hold public office come under Title 8 USC, Section §1481 “Loss of nationality by native-born or naturalized citizen; voluntary action; burden of proof; presumptions.”

3. Under Title 22 USC, Foreign Relations and Intercourse, Section §611, a Public Official is considered a foreign agent. In order to hold public office, the candidate must file a true and complete registration statement with the State Attorney General as a foreign principle.

4. The Oath of Office requires the public official in his / her foreign state capacity to uphold the constitutional form of government or face consequences.

Title 10 USC, Sec. §333, “Interference with State and Federal law”

The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy, if it—

(1) so hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or (2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.

In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution.

5. Such willful action, while serving in official capacity, violates Title 18 USC, Section §1918:

Title 18 USC, Section §1918 “Disloyalty and asserting the right to strike against the government”

Whoever violates the provision of 7311 of title 5 that an individual may not accept or hold a position in the Government of the United States or the government of the District of Columbia if he—

(1) advocates the overthrow of our constitutional form of government; (2) is a member of an organization that he knows advocates the overthrow of our constitutional form of government;

shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year and a day, or both. and also deprives claimants of “honest services:

Title 18, Section §1346. Definition of “scheme or artifice to defraud”

“For the purposes of this chapter, the term “scheme or artifice to defraud” includes a scheme or artifice to deprive another of the intangible right of honest services.

and the treaties that placed your public offices in that foreign state under international law and under the United Nation jurisdiction:

49 Stat. 3097; Treaty Series 881 CONVENTION ON RIGHTS AND DUTIES OF STATES

1945 IOIA –That the International Organizations Act of December 29, 1945 (59 Stat. 669; Title 22, Sections 288 to 2886 U.S.C.) the US relinquished every office

TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER I > § 1101

The term “foreign state” includes outlying possessions of a foreign state, but self-governing dominions or territories under mandate or trusteeship shall be regarded as separate foreign states

================================

That is what my reply has to do with your statement!

Its funny when people with knowledge like PartyTime bring this it quickly stops people for talking about something they know nothing about!!

Thank you PartyTime for enlightening this forum with this, hopefully this will help keep and bravo open their eyes a little.

[keepmwlknfny]

Its funny when people with knowledge like PartyTime bring this it quickly stops people for talking about something they know nothing about!!

Thank you PartyTime for enlightening this forum with this, hopefully this will help keep and bravo open their eyes a little.

LOL even with fiat currency, part of the value comes from the confidence of the people using it........where is the confidence in the dinar?? NO WHERE.....

Even though its a fiat currency, Iraq is not the US, and Iraq is following islamic banking practices.....which I have mentioned probly a thousand times......they are currently backing the dinar 100% and dont seem to be drifting away from that idea/practice anytime soon...

Even though its a fiat currency IRAQ HAS TOO LARGE OF A MONEY SUPPLY WITH TOO LITTLE GDP......

If it wasent for those things, then I probly wouldnt be too worried about the RV.....there are other factors that determine a countries currencies value....

[blueskygal]

If we were waiting until next year, there wouldn't be articles coming out about the need for a new currency/coins.

And need to educate people on ATMs, etc etc etc - need to raise the zeros and increase the value of the currency...etc etc etc why put that all out if its not in process now?

[Inbedded HorseHead]

late Q4 2012.....patience my friends...........

[PartyTime]

LOL even with fiat currency, part of the value comes from the confidence of the people using it........where is the confidence in the dinar?? NO WHERE.....

Even though its a fiat currency, Iraq is not the US, and Iraq is following islamic banking practices.....which I have mentioned probly a thousand times......they are currently backing the dinar 100% and dont seem to be drifting away from that idea/practice anytime soon...

Even though its a fiat currency IRAQ HAS TOO LARGE OF A MONEY SUPPLY WITH TOO LITTLE GDP......

If it wasent for those things, then I probly wouldnt be too worried about the RV.....there are other factors that determine a countries currencies value....

This fiat currency has zero value. It is all just DEBT! How do you bring any value to a negative? It's just a bunch of paper written IOU's.

And when the people use it it adds all that much more to a national debt. The only way the people can turn that negative to a positive is not by using it, but by discharging their personal debt and by not using the fiat debt at all.

You think this country is in debt now? Wait until this RV happens. People THINK this will be a good thing and will help the country, but it will actually bury this country in that much more debt. So for example if the people are holding $1 Trillion in total dinar today and it RV's at $3 and as that is spent and invested into this country it all adds $3 Trillion more to our debt owed.

Iraq is BANKRUPT! Why do you think their currency is valued at 1170 - $1 USD? Why do you think they are being forgiven all this massive debt from different countries around the world? Um, because that is what you do in a bankruptcy! You forgive the debts owed! If Iraq was so wealthy and not bankrupt there would not be any need to forgive any debt, they could easily pay the debt! But they are bankrupt. They are being converted into a "democracy" which will place them under the same type of chapter 11 bankruptcy the US, Canada, Europe and every other country that has their debt currency controlled under the IMF.

If a country is tied in with the IMF, that is a country operating under bankruptcy and controlled by the elite private banking cartel. Of course they use a little more of a socialist fancier name by telling the people it's a "democracy", but it's a bankruptcy! But they can't tell you that because if they allowed the truth to get out it would prevent their grand theft of the people's credit!

There is NO MONEY! It no longer exists! There is only CREDIT and DEBT! Government is the DEBTOR and the People are the CREDITORS. Fiat currency is a private script intended for internal use between the central bank, national banks and governments which is nothing but a bunch of printed up promissory notes issued to the government debtors by the central banking cartel.

Our CREDIT is created by nothing other than our Signature! Itt is YOUR SIGNATURE that creates any CREDIT. Without your Signature no credit can be created and generated. So you don't need to use THEIR internal private script debt instruments for anything because you only need to provide them with YOUR SIGNATURE which provides them with YOUR CREDIT to OFFSET AND DISCHARGE their DEBT! Only we are not doing that and instead we are using THEIR internal debt instruments and calling it money which it is not, and we THINK by using their internal private script debt instruments that we are actually paying our debts with it. We are not paying any debts with it. We are actually doubling the debt already owed everytime we use that private script!

These private corporations posing as governments are all bankrupt and they have been swindling the people out of their unlimited credit by dumbing the people down through their private corporate public fools system brainwashing the people into beieving they are the debtors when in fact they are the creditors!

Got Ink? If you got ink, you got all the money you could possibly ever want or need! Only it isn't money, it's CREDIT!

People just need to learn who they really are and if they can ever learn that and learn how this system is really set up and structured and if they can live as honorable men and women within that syatem, where they STOP claiming any ownership of things they do not and cannot ever own, because ALL property is vested in the STATE, it would end all wars, it would end starvation, it would end homeless people living on streets, and there would be peace on earth where everyone is doing on earth as it is done in heaven! Only we keep fighting against the system and doing everything completely backwards where our lives are being lived in a mirror image of what reality is. Welcome to the MATRIX!