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Obviously, tripling the value of your initial investment would equal a return on investment. However, to any recent speculative investor, three times your initial investment would have to be met by a re-value of more than 3 times the value. Why? Simply for a couple reasons such as: You likely paid a mark-up fee of a certain percentage upon purchasing. 1M x $0.00085 = $850 (Some BofA were selling I believe for roughly $880 or so at one point). As of recently, 1M was going for well above $1,000. $1220 is the actual ideal number I believe DT was selling 1M for. Those that have been invested longer likely bought in for a lower price, however, they also had to sit on their investment longer. Remember that present value of money is worth more presently than in the future. Now, if they did a re-denomination, they would likely put their value higher as they could easily do so, but the banks & CBI will look to do this as a profiteering scenario meaning we will have to pay our spread & fees. (So remember to include that from the value...) We can view this as a Gross Profit - Expenses/Fees to equal a Net Profit.

Therefore, a true Net-profit of 3 times the value I initially invested would be good... But I would also have to consider that the amount gained would still be high meaning I would have to claim it for taxes. Basically, claim it as alternative profit while taking the value of the initial investment as a claim against it. So, when it is all said & done, I would not see 3 times our initial profit a likely end-game scenario. After many groups get their cut, we are left with a small portion. So ideally, we may only look at doubling our money in the end in this scenario.

Would this by any means help bump up the US economy? Not likely... It would be a very small band-aid in the larger picture. Banks, dealers, & other currency exchange posts would make their profits based upon their spread. However, that same group was making money pre-RV as well, so in reality not much changes. The speculative investor group as a whole now has a little more money, but nothing that will likely go towards big purchases. Most people may pay down some debt, put it in a bank & invest or save it, or maybe buy a nice bigger purchase. So, in reality, it would be like a stimulus package put into effect but only at a small portion/percentage. (Speculative figures it would have about 1-3% of an impact that the stimulus package G.W. Bush sent out...)

The higher the value, the more impact a sread will have & the more taxes the government can collect. Basically an everybody wins scenario, which this process could also help pay off war-debt while managing an overall improved economy.

I am curious on how many feel as if they could leave their job at a triple-return on their investment.. (Maybe some of those that have invested "deeply")

But, to answer the main question.. Would I be happy? Yes, but also disappointed as I was hoping the returns would have been better. If the scenario could end up being worse, I would gladly take 3x's my investment.

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I've had Dinar for only 5 weeks and have read a lot of speculation of how it will RV or RD or whatever. One of the least lucrative scenarios is where it will RV at/above $3, but that's usually based

Ill be happy with anything more then I paid lol....its more then I started with! I'm not greedy....just want a lil something to make some moves with ya dig?

If you spent as much time researching facts as you do writing garbage....you may make it. But I doubt it...Anyway to debunk you for the 3rd time in a row..:

1-Your statement about what I said about the US buying oil with the Dinars they have...I will say it slow for you....I t w a s "j u s t m y o p i n i o n" from my research into the

Fed and the Elites and GW saying (yes on video) that the Iraq war will not cost us a penny. You tell me what YOU think he meant!!

2-You can't read I guess, and I feel for you but where is it you see me saying "We are ALL going to die"? I read it over again, and I can't find it...did I fax you that statement?

3- Where do you see me saying "the end is near"? Again I can't see it.

Although I can say the end of the America you knew is very near...you have 44 million people on food stamps,

( www.businessinsider.com/44-million-in-the-us-use-food-stamps-143-of-population-2011-3 )

and you have over 18 million homes vacant ( www.cnbc.com/id/41355854/Nearly_11_Percent_of_US_Houses_Empty ), you have Detroit almost a wasteland, Jersey heading that way to.

Your terror threat has now increased as planned, and your Police State will increase, damn you don't even have free speech anymore, just limited. Plus your in 5 wars...for what?

4 - As for the LOP, again "just my opinion" as stated, is from researching. But feel free to tell me your facts about there being a LOP. Think.

Again I don't spew, I can give you facts about many things..but why can't you just find them on your own? Google can be your friend.

If you don't think there is going to be False Flag attacks soon or WWIII throughj a Pakistan attack then just live your life with blinders on, and I will know we are safe and living.

I would rather think ahead than be asleep, but that is my choice....and you are right to make your own choice, but don't throw insults or idiotic remarks out about stuff

you haven't researched, I don't really like making people look stupid. The rest of the world is standing up to the same tyranny in their countries...when will the US?

Very well put.....

Haha OK. I guess I missed the part where you said it was all your opinion. Anyway beleive it or not you and I agree an some things. I have a 2 year food supply and all the equipment to keep my family safe as well. I was just giving you a hard time because there are many out there new to this game who will hear people spout of things as fact and then run out and spend the rent money on Dinars. I just think we need to be careful. The fact is the IQD could RD or RV. Another fact is we have articles telling us it will RD. Whether we beleive they are smoke or not is up to each individual. If facts were brought to light that the US was using our IQD to purchase oil or that the majority of the 000 notes have been pulled from circulation in Iraq then I will be the first to admitt that I was wrong and jump on the everything is peachy bandwagon.

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Don't say yes. That is capitulation. It does nothing for anybody. Okay, maybe you can run out an buy a Hyundai Sonata. You would be better off with my 1998 Cadillac - 27 mpg and the best ride of all time. Why are we so quick to settle for less. And, Keepm - if you were being paid for all the hours you put on this site, making some assumptions, your take would be about minimum wages after expenses. And, you say you would be happy with any return - Baldrerdash. Let's fire up people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or, I'll get Shin on here with all her weaponry. I think she is back from Pakistan.

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Haha OK. I guess I missed the part where you said it was all your opinion. Anyway beleive it or not you and I agree an some things. I have a 2 year food supply and all the equipment to keep my family safe as well. I was just giving you a hard time because there are many out there new to this game who will hear people spout of things as fact and then run out and spend the rent money on Dinars. I just think we need to be careful. The fact is the IQD could RD or RV. Another fact is we have articles telling us it will RD. Whether we beleive they are smoke or not is up to each individual. If facts were brought to light that the US was using our IQD to purchase oil or that the majority of the 000 notes have been pulled from circulation in Iraq then I will be the first to admitt that I was wrong and jump on the everything is peachy bandwagon.

OK...no problem friend, lets just agree to profit with the Dinar and do what we were put here to do....enjoy this amazing planet we call home. This Dinar thing just feels right for some reason. Peace out.

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OK...no problem friend, lets just agree to profit with the Dinar and do what we were put here to do....enjoy this amazing planet we call home. This Dinar thing just feels right for some reason. Peace out.

Dinarck, you can not be first. That honor goes to Keepm. Yes, then you can be the 2nd one. You guys may be our two best Gorkbooms.

Obviously, tripling the value of your initial investment would equal a return on investment. However, to any recent speculative investor, three times your initial investment would have to be met by a re-value of more than 3 times the value. Why? Simply for a couple reasons such as: You likely paid a mark-up fee of a certain percentage upon purchasing. 1M x $0.00085 = $850 (Some BofA were selling I believe for roughly $880 or so at one point). As of recently, 1M was going for well above $1,000. $1220 is the actual ideal number I believe DT was selling 1M for. Those that have been invested longer likely bought in for a lower price, however, they also had to sit on their investment longer. Remember that present value of money is worth more presently than in the future. Now, if they did a re-denomination, they would likely put their value higher as they could easily do so, but the banks & CBI will look to do this as a profiteering scenario meaning we will have to pay our spread & fees. (So remember to include that from the value...) We can view this as a Gross Profit - Expenses/Fees to equal a Net Profit.

Therefore, a true Net-profit of 3 times the value I initially invested would be good... But I would also have to consider that the amount gained would still be high meaning I would have to claim it for taxes. Basically, claim it as alternative profit while taking the value of the initial investment as a claim against it. So, when it is all said & done, I would not see 3 times our initial profit a likely end-game scenario. After many groups get their cut, we are left with a small portion. So ideally, we may only look at doubling our money in the end in this scenario.

Would this by any means help bump up the US economy? Not likely... It would be a very small band-aid in the larger picture. Banks, dealers, & other currency exchange posts would make their profits based upon their spread. However, that same group was making money pre-RV as well, so in reality not much changes. The speculative investor group as a whole now has a little more money, but nothing that will likely go towards big purchases. Most people may pay down some debt, put it in a bank & invest or save it, or maybe buy a nice bigger purchase. So, in reality, it would be like a stimulus package put into effect but only at a small portion/percentage. (Speculative figures it would have about 1-3% of an impact that the stimulus package G.W. Bush sent out...)

The higher the value, the more impact a sread will have & the more taxes the government can collect. Basically an everybody wins scenario, which this process could also help pay off war-debt while managing an overall improved economy.

I am curious on how many feel as if they could leave their job at a triple-return on their investment.. (Maybe some of those that have invested "deeply")

But, to answer the main question.. Would I be happy? Yes, but also disappointed as I was hoping the returns would have been better. If the scenario could end up being worse, I would gladly take 3x's my investment.

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Dinarck, you can not be first. That honor goes to Keepm. Yes, then you can be the 2nd one. You guys may be our two best Gorkbooms.

I wish I knew what a Gorkboom was so I would know if I should be affended. :D

No, I am happy to be a Gorkboom as long as I can freely give my 2 cents.

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Let me get this straight. You would be happy, but disappointed. Sounds like West Side Story. Tony is laying there. He says, "Te adoro, Maria" she replies "Te adoro Anton". I guess they were happy at that 5 second moment, until the point his dead body was carried off. Then Maria was disappointed. Do you really think she was disappointed? How about devasted? What would you say if you thought you were having a steak and you found out it was dog manure. I think after you had a mouthful, the answer would be obvious.

I wish I knew what a Gorkboom was so I would know if I should be affended. :D

No, I am happy to be a Gorkboom as long as I can freely give my 2 cents.

I own a trophy shop and on the side of my van, it says "Trophies. plaques, Gorkbooms".

I have people pull up next to me and they ask "What is a Gorkboom". I tell them it is just a word that will get them to ask. Guess what, they remember me. However, I may copyright the word.

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Let me get this straight. You would be happy, but disappointed. Sounds like West Side Story. Tony is laying there. He says, "Te adoro, Maria" she replies "Te adoro Anton". I guess they were happy at that 5 second moment, until the point his dead body was carried off. Then Maria was disappointed. Do you really think she was disappointed? How about devasted? What would you say if you thought you were having a steak and you found out it was dog manure. I think after you had a mouthful, the answer would be obvious.

I own a trophy shop and on the side of my van, it says "Trophies. plaques, Gorkbooms".

I have people pull up next to me and they ask "What is a Gorkboom". I tell them it is just a word that will get them to ask. Guess what, they remember me. However, I may copyright the word.

Ha! I know it may sound hard to understand, but let me maybe make even more confusing....

I am generally optimistic about the whole scenario.

So therefore, 3 times my initial investment would basically be worst-case scenario out of a positive result..

I made $, so I technically "should" be happy. However, I believe the potential was higher, so therefore I will be disappointed.

Let's say your sitting at a slot machine playing a penny slot. These typically games come with bonuses and sometimes you can potentially win the progressive jackpot on a bonus spin. Now, if I made money from the bonus I would be happy. If I had a $3 spin and won $9, I would see that as a return. However, I would be sad I didn't hit the progressive jackpot, but I would know the chances of a high return like that were low.

Therefore, I would still be happy to hit the bonus, but sad it wasn't the big one. It could just as easily been another worthless spin where I lost.

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This is an investment risky, somewhat, no one knows what the rate will be but I don't think anyone will lose on this

very little down side potential upside is very good in my opinion

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Darin, sounds like you have won playing the slots. Has this been declared? You never know who is on this site. Could be that TJMuson is with the FBI- Federal Betting Indenture

I think your taking a lot ouf of context in what I am trying to say. Have I won on the sltos? Yes... Progressive jackpots? No..

If I were to go to the casino and double-triple my money, I would be happy... Considering I had the potential to lose all the cash that I brought.

If I went to the casino with $20 and turned it into $1,000s, I would be estatic.

The risks are higher, so knowing thoe risks, any return would be great.

I believe the potential is much higher than 3 times the investment, but, if the best I can get is 3 times my investment, I will settle & be content with it.

I would always wish I had better ROI %s, but, I have no impact on the result, so I have to take what I can get.

With such low-risk, I know that I can simply wait and cash out at a value that works for me based upon how slow of a progression the rise in value takes.

If the rates go live, over time the value could easily go up. Patience has its virtue. Some will be greedy & cash out nearly immediately.

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I've had Dinar for only 5 weeks and have read a lot of speculation of how it will RV or RD or whatever. One of the least lucrative scenarios is where it will RV at/above $3, but that's usually based on the 25,000 note being reduced to 25. If that were to happen, my short term investment will increase threefold. That's pretty good considering the limited time I've been invested, however, many of you have been holding Dinar for 4, 5, and 6+ years. Considering your original expectations and the lengthy roller coaster ride, would you be happy with 3X your investment? I know it's hard to find something better, but it seems as though expectations were set very high in the past. Just curious.

I didn't get into this as a break even thing if they where to make what I less than what I bought would not be good. but 3x what I have in dinars right now would really be great . Turning a 25000 into a 25 note would suck that's 1000x less than what I paid for than 3x that would be more than I invest in usd but I would not be able to do what I had planed to with my return. 1help my sister out of her money problem 2 be able to make donation to the mda, American heart association,and American diabetes association. 3 be able to open a business that could put unemployed people back to work, as well as help with my retirement.

So making me happy? Not a chance, but I would not be totally sad or to mad about it because I made more than I put in. But as you know we didn't get into this to break even and 3x would make me feel I just broke even.

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You have to admit, that is part of the reason why we all invested, because its just as much a possibility of happening as not happening.

Count me out of that admission. I would say that we all bought IQD with the hope of lots o' money, but I think anyone who thinks it's just as likely as the 3x scenario is partaking in the 'funny cigarettes' too much. I think that RD is a far more likely scenario with a very remote chance of RV/RI. But I do think that all scenarios will pay out more than I invested (esp. since I'm accruing 11% at Warka while I wait), so for me it's like pizza. You hardly ever get one that is 'bad'. Usually it's either good or better. So I'm skeptical, but holding out for it no matter what.

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