Prophetic Word on Dinar - Long

[DumNDumer]

Look up (HAARP) on YouTube. Maybe China has this technology too and sunk part of Japan. They still labor hate from WWII, and a HAARP device would be hard to prove. The generation shall not pass, that sees Israel become a nation, i.e. the baby boomer generation. Israel became a nation in what, '47 I think??? I'd have to look it up again... Israel affirmed their commitment in '67 with the 7 day war, ( I believe was what it was called), over the Temple mount and parts of the Western bank. Prophecy is definitely in play, but don't know where the dinar comes into play, may be something to do with the resurgence of the New Babylon.

This with Obama passing legislation, backed by Kissenger, to have us all chipped by 2016. YouTube chipped.

2012 many religions are saying could be the end of what we now know. Sun flares are increasing at an alarming rate. Big ones can knock out electronics and cellphones. All the planets are lining up for the first time in, I don't remember, in several thousand years. Another ice age? Think about how the moons gravitational pull effects the tides and then multiply the effects on the sun and what effect it may have on the earth. It will be felt much more with the population of the earth being more people living on surface of the earth than have ever been born and lived and died up to this point. I actually believe I had read we actually hit that point around '86.

We have the Myans predicting the end soon, other native American cultures predicting the end, Christian prophecy predicting the end of what we now know being close, the radical Muslims predicting the 12th Imam now walking the earth, bringing about the end, the 15th century Catholic Arch Bishop naming all the Popes up to the one they currently have and then stating the next one will being about the destruction of the church of the 7 hills, i.e. the Catholic church. These and lots of folks like Nastradamas predicting the end is near.

We have a prototype of the new Roman Empire and one world govt. in the formation of the European Union. The Middle east is the focus of the world, who would have thought sand and desolate wasteland would have been the main focus of the world even 50 years ago. Our politicians and political system have sold 'We the people" out as a nation.

China is becoming a nation of men because of the one baby rule. Single young men + no women = unrest in my opinion. Turkey has a dam that can effectively dry up the Euphraties river in less than a week so large military units could cross and make their way into the Middle East to truly do an armageddon. An resurgence in Russias building up of military armaments.

You have India poised to take out Pakistan and Pakistan poised to push the button on India. North Korea vs South Korea and all of the Middle East nations just wanting to make war.

All of the countries of the world are hurting financially.

I don't consider myself a doomsday propogandaist, but I am a realist and a Christian. Time is drawing short and tensions are high. It wouldn't bother me one bit to meet my Christ tonight, would love to see it in a rapture setting.

Sorry for spelling and not having exact dates, but I'm extremely tired tonight. What I'm saying is it would be nice to be caught up and debt free with this investment. I am also saying if you can't see there are many things that are pointing towards an end game senerio, you are either blind or ignorant. Look up End Game on YouTube.

I'm by no means even close to being a good Christian, but I am a Christian just the same.

Being a Christian and looking at prophecy, this is the first time you can say information grows exponentially, think internet. It is the first time in history that anyone with a cell phone can record info and send it around the world in seconds by the recording and pushing send on their phone.

There has never been a more ripe moment for prophecy to take place. My advice would be your best to get right, because this world as we know it could be changed forever as we have come to know it.

I like the way you post.

I second it and say AMEN!!!

Luci

[OhmEye]

Funny how some folks can see a post entitled something like "to all CHRISTIANS...." and then not only read it but post how it offends their non-Christian sensibilities. Pretty sharp, they are.

Since we're in a spiritual/faith/dinar vein here, an interesting thing happened to my wife the other day. Long before we ever heard of a dinar, we had made a very specific list of things we'd like to do "if we ever have the money" , in order and by priority. You know- tithe, pay off all debts, get a few acres of land, give $XXX to that charity, build a new house, etc. We never discuss these things with anyone else, ever.

So, she was asked to visit a friend's church (2 counties away, where she knew exactly one person in the building) on Sat. to give her short testimony about our son at a women's meeting. She told how we had tried for almost 2 years to have a baby, but doctors said nothing was working on her end. But God intervened and she became pregnant with our little miracle boy (now 13 months) almost to the day a minister prayed for us.

Later on at the end of the service, a lady who she had never met before and who knew nothing about her (we live 50 miles away) came to her and asked her if she wanted___, ____,....right down our list of items, even down to the vehicles, horses, and how the bathrooms and bedrooms would be laid out in our dream house. She said that she was going to pray with my wife and God was going to give us those things in HIS timing. No mention of dinar, or investments, or our business. Just that "financial breakthrough is coming in the future."

What does that mean? I don't know. Could be a HUGE increase in my business (would have to be huge). Could mean my great aunt in another state is almost ready to go on and she's willed us her some of her real estate as she claimed. Could be a nice dinar RV. Does it really even matter? Just gotta live my life the same anyway. It's all in God's hands.

Not sure where the "to all christians" bit came from, but it sounds to me that you have definitely had a revelation of the God of creation, through His Son! Praise Him!!!

[DinarC]

Well ToDo you sure got everyone thinking. Great post and I appreciate your wisdom and willingness to make yourself vulnerable in this forum. I found your knowledge along with your spiritual understanding of worldly events, timelines and those involved in various ways to be uniquely delightful.

In 2007 I had created a vision journal (with pictures of things, people, work and relationships that I would like to attract) and it gradually evolved into something extraordinary as it stands today. I had no idea why I put four pages of pictures of gardens, both for meditation, relaxation and food production, and dwellings for many, and I clearly see with this dinar scenario that the vision plus the means to make this happen have been are being provided to me. I do not perceive this as "my" vision only but a greater one than I could have ever known in 2007 and I attribute this to God (or for those who get triggered by the word God, Source energy) working with me and through me for the purpose of upcoming changes and the greater good.

Thank you again.

Namaste

[radar12354]

Todo, you talk of signs that you say have come to pass. Look, for me, and I am speaking for me and my house. If it is not backed up by scripture and I mean scripture I won't even give it a second thought. Where did you get these signs from and who is interpreting them? What denomination do you follow if any? 144 what stand before us. I hope you are not talking about the 144,000 mentioned in Revelation. Those are Jews. Jews. Hebrews, 12,000 from each tribe in Israel. Heart may be in the right place, but you need to show me some scripture because my Bible says that the Word of God is NOT for private interpretation. I'm just saying.

Well spoken.............just saying

[TRERUMPH]

HE'S EITHER INCREDIBLY STUPID OR INCREDIBLY SMART.......

[otownpilgrim]

Todo this was a great post and thanks all for all your comments. Is there anyway to keep in touch after the RV?

[jbbdolphins]

I hope the moderators can start a new forum on "religion". I know that I don't have to read these posts about "religion" , but I shouldn't have to skip over any post...I should be able to go to any of the forums and find posts relating to that forum.

Because I got a few negative remarks, I would like to P.S. my original post. My father always told me that there were three things to avoid in a discussion:: 1) politics 2) money 3) religion. I am sorry that some members felt my suggestion warrented negative remarks...I just felt with so many members with deep beliefs there should be a special forum to go to. My beliefs are very personal and iIt makes me uncomfortable to read the "arguments" from people who have different views on issues. By the way, I put all of our members in my daily prayers. Peace and God Bless.

[shamrocklady]

I feel like I have just read the Dinarvinci Code

[OhmEye]

Because I got a few negative remarks, I would like to P.S. my original post. My father always told me that there were three things to avoid in a discussion:: 1) politics 2) money 3) religion. I am sorry that some members felt my suggestion warrented negative remarks...I just felt with so many members with deep beliefs there should be a special forum to go to. My beliefs are very personal and iIt makes me uncomfortable to read the "arguments" from people who have different views on issues. By the way, I put all of our members in my daily prayers. Peace and God Bless.

Your earthly father may have a problem with everything on these boards!

Take out money, politics, and the force behind it all, just what do we have left to talk about?

[todo]

Todo Here Before the Dawn 5/25/2011

Hi all, just got a contact from someone that told me this post had come up again.

So I have three pages of comments that I would like to respond to, but can’t because of length. I hope to make some general comments first, to address these.

First, my beliefs do not require anyone else to be a believer, especially to receive this benefit of a dinar revaluation. My belief is that the sun shines on both the righteous and the wicked. My understanding comes from Muslims, Christians, or heaven forbid, even atheists. I have traveled the world for 15 years, and I no longer hold any I’m-a-special-person-because-I-am-a-Christan belief. My best friends are from many other countries and from many other backgrounds. I have no church denomination, nor affiliation. I only speak with people who I can work things through with. They feed me and I feed them. The previous posts were carefully written over many hours of painstaking thought, and I tried to avoid as much bible thumping as I possibly could, because I wanted inclusion, not exclusion. My world view, however, is predominately shaped by biblical precedent, which I made clear.

Do I hear voices that I call “a word from the Lord”? No. The Lord’s communication to me comes in many forms. If I merely took what I receive in prayer as fact, then I would be negating the principle of witness. There has to be confirmation. The content in this post is limited to things pertaining to dinar and the direction of the use of that return. They are things everyone can choose to take or leave. Since it is so far out there, I provided ample background of why and how this could actually be happening and what is going on behind the scenes. The dinar story is more believable when you understand money changing and oil trade. Otherwise 3860:1 return? Not likely…..not ever !

If you don’t believe in God or you dismiss what I say because your doctrine is different. Fine ! It is ok.. It won’t matter one iota in the short term and I am not your judge. The revalue will happen and you will receive what you have bargained for. I won’t reject you because you doubt and I won’t reject you because you believe something else. Most of the church is not like that, but I am different. I have failed more than all of you. If I have any qualification it is that I have been wrong so many times. I failed in religion and I failed in my career. I failed in so many ways, and after all that God kept assuring me there would be a change…God said he was going to place this in my hands and if I walked in obedience I wouldn’t lose it.

So earlier, I stated that this was about the money changers and the banker wars. Kahn is a chief banker. He is a banker’s banker. When he was identified and subsequently resigned May 18th we knew instantly that this was a sign, but it took several days to figure this out. We just knew that this was big news at that time.

So, in my thinking no IMF chief ever gets pinned like this unless he has many enemies and there is a good reason. He is/was a very powerful man. He is a socialist, a top banker, and possibly a Freemason in the Grand Orient de France. Bottom line, the guy has influence. Because of the reasons I wrote about, the fall of the Babylonian system, the unusual headline about him was certainly something to take notice of. I think I mentioned earlier that May was critical in the timing of the dinar for several reasons. We now know that Kahn was arrested on the lamb selection day of the second Passover (the 14th), and he resigned at or near the precise moment that they would slay the lamb, four days later. This is a weak link for most people I am sure. To us, it is not. It is the outward sign of inward turmoil. There is a power struggle within the banking system and it happened interestingly and precisely on days that are spiritual markers to people who would dare believe. I have been clear that we believe this is a spiritual process. Again, for those who do not believe, really what difference does it make? For those who do, it is reinforcement. For those who are religious antagonists, I cannot help you.

So one other thing. Did everyone see silver drop from $49 down to $35 in record time? You should have. The dollar is being pumped and it is my guess that this is in relation to the currency issues. The dollar needs to be as high as possible before the revaluation, and that means commodities will take a hit. Then the revalue will occur. Dollar demand will be high for the exchange period. This is when you need to pay attention to commodities. In banker speak, silver/gold is real money. Gas has dropped from $4.17 to 3.72 here in just a short time. To me, this is a clear sign the positioning is taking place.

[jbbdolphins]

Your earthly father may have a problem with everything on these boards!

Take out money, politics, and the force behind it all, just what do we have left to talk about?

My dad passed away in 1985. Take those topics out and you have family, memories, many things can create worthwhile issues. I am a health care provider and work with the elderly..family and memories are all they talk about.

[OhmEye]

My dad passed away in 1985. Take those topics out and you have family, memories, many things can create worthwhile issues. I am a health care provider and work with the elderly..family and memories are all they talk about.

There are forums for all of that, for sure, but is this not the IQD forum?

Edited May 24, 2011 by OhmEye

[jbbdolphins]

There are forums for all of that, for sure, but is this not the IQD forum?

Yes, you are right, this is the IQD forum. I was trying not to hurt anyone...was making reference to how passionate some members are about their religious beliefs and how others are quick to bash or question them. Of course there will always be issues with money, politics and religion...I have discussions all the time, just trying in a non-threatening way to say how uncomfortable confrontation of this kind makes me and maybe others might feel.

[OhmEye]

Yes, you are right, this is the IQD forum. I was trying not to hurt anyone...was making reference to how passionate some members are about their religious beliefs and how others are quick to bash or question them. Of course there will always be issues with money, politics and religion...I have discussions all the time, just trying in a non-threatening way to say how uncomfortable confrontation of this kind makes me and maybe others might feel.

I can understand this, Brother. It is uncomfortable, but this is good. I--for one--have always profited when I have been removed from that place where I was most familiar, and comfortable. No worries. You have not hurt, or offended, anyone. On the contrary, you have reminded us all of our ample room for growth. . .

We are so enjoying this ride with you, my Brother! What a bounty that we have to look forward to!

[rick25sandi]

[umbertino]

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It's all in God's hands.

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I respect you and your Belief. But I respectfully don't agree. I wish you the Best in your life. Peace.

[AK47]

[OhmEye]

uggghhhhhhh!

It's all good. . .

[make11]

I am very happy you came back to write more, TODO!

I have really enjoyed all your writings and learned a lot from you. Please do continue writing your views and understanding as I am sure your writings are eye-openers for

most people with an open mind here (at least certainly are to me)...thank you.

[jbbdolphins]

I can understand this, Brother. It is uncomfortable, but this is good. I--for one--have always profited when I have been removed from that place where I was most familiar, and comfortable. No worries. You have not hurt, or offended, anyone. On the contrary, you have reminded us all of our ample room for growth. . .

We are so enjoying this ride with you, my Brother! What a bounty that we have to look forward to!

Thank you...I am a girl

[OhmEye]

Thank you...I am a girl

And I am an embarrassed. I love you, Sis!

[kayaman]

Todo,

First of all, I do not know your mission or why you posted referencing the dinar revaluation. If this is true, thank you for sharing. Your words are very telling. It reminded me of a booklet that I used to read in the early 80's about the fall of the Mystery of "Babylon the great". It also spoke about the "Coming of the Arabs" I wonder if this ties in to the dinar and the rest of the Arab world? The Booklet also foretold events that came to pass, one that I can remember was the tearing down of the Berlin wall that united the east and the west. I dont know the significance of it now, but nevertheless it was prophetic. It talked about revelation in the bible that I never understood till I read the booklet. i.e., such verse in revelation that talked about "voices in the air", are the radio contact of bombers and fighter planes in WWII, "the big thunder", were the anti-aircraft guns shooting in the sky and 'the great earthquake", is when Hiroshima and Nagasaki were hit the the ATOM BOMB. Indeed, the bible is written in a cryptic manner that is needs a prophet of god to see things clearly. I can only say that the tearing down of "Universal Babylon" is at hand, and we all witness this in the recent Economic dislocation in our financial industry. "Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven"

Peace

[todo]

Todo,

First of all, I do not know your mission or why you posted referencing the dinar revaluation. If this is true, thank you for sharing. Your words are very telling. It reminded me of a booklet that I used to read in the early 80's about the fall of the Mystery of "Babylon the great". It also spoke about the "Coming of the Arabs" I wonder if this ties in to the dinar and the rest of the Arab world? The Booklet also foretold events that came to pass, one that I can remember was the tearing down of the Berlin wall that united the east and the west. I dont know the significance of it now, but nevertheless it was prophetic. It talked about revelation in the bible that I never understood till I read the booklet. i.e., such verse in revelation that talked about "voices in the air", are the radio contact of bombers and fighter planes in WWII, "the big thunder", were the anti-aircraft guns shooting in the sky and 'the great earthquake", is when Hiroshima and Nagasaki were hit the the ATOM BOMB. Indeed, the bible is written in a cryptic manner that is needs a prophet of god to see things clearly. I can only say that the tearing down of "Universal Babylon" is at hand, and we all witness this in the recent Economic dislocation in our financial industry. "Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven"

Peace

My mission was very plain and simple. I do not believe the current money system is stable enough to remain long afterwards as is if this large perturbation takes place. I once managed a very large account for a very large company (excess of $50M). During that time I realized that I knew nothing about money or how it is managed. As I started to study, I found out that it was not only I that was completely ignorant, but also most all of the people around me. I often met with CEO's and VP's of other companies. I found that they too were largely ignorant. They understood the simpler matters, but did not get the more weighty issues.

This last week I met with a corporate strategist. We discussed market indicators and trends. I found out that in general corporations are loath to look to anything that goes beyond the norm. How ironic?!?! Same for most of the people in society. So when things like the Oct. '08 crash was upon them, it was business as usual until their hands were fully tied. No one paid any attention to the leading indicators, for the most part. Chicken little does not have a voice in financial circles, especially when you are making money by the bucket full. So, I have made it a mission to understand what to do once the RV takes place, and that means understanding the granularity in enough detail to make wise decisions. I did say that I use the biblical reference as a lens. It is awkward for most AND a tough pill to swallow if in fact we have come to a time of prophetic fulfillment concerning Babylonian system collapse.

I mentioned that I look for many witnesses as a way for God to clearly indicate His message. In the last 24 hours, I have had two people call me, one from Iowa and one from Michigan, and quite spontaneously begin to tell me what the Lord was leading them to do with the revalue funds. Basically, it is land and commodities, and possibly foreign investments.

For the reasons I have shared, land and commodities are critical. There are ways to weather the high rates of fluctuation in fiat currencies, and this has to do with investing in things that generally do not change in actual price. The fiat currency value will change, but the relative value of certain assets do not. These assets do not provide much growth or return, but they do withstand inflation and that will be key if suddenly the market is awash in greenbacks.

Folks, from the spiritual perspective we believe that this has to happen in coincidence with spiritual milestones, which I have indicated. I do not know precisely which event this will be or what will be the meaning. God does tell us certain timings, but not this one. For very good reasons we believe that Monday thru Wednesday next week are good days to pay attention. If the revalue does not happen then, I speculate (SPECULATE) that it will be a while, perhaps a year. Don't get mad at me, its not my call. I have clearly stated I do not know the date prophetically.

When this does occur, there will be a large demand for dollars. Due to recent changes in the UST rules, there will be less opportunity to cash in without funneling the money through the UST and thus paying the excessive capital gains tax. When this happen the value of the dollar will jump up causing two results. 1) Commodities will fall, 2) Foreign exchange will fall. This will give the rats a chance to bail from the sinkiing ship and collect high rates of exchange. Anyone left holding dollars too long will take it on the chin. Shortly after the big dogs bail from the dollar its value will fall rapidly and the hyperinflation people have been warning about for years will finally come thus looting the holdings of naive participants. Silver and gold, platinum and palladium will go up... and I am thinking maybe 400%.. Others are telling me much more, but that is my number. People will be looking for anything to get out of the dollar.

The critical mass of people believing in the dollar at that time will still be very large, so I am thinking there is time to make a change i.e. spend it wisely. Certain people will understand what I am saying and will make good hedges. Others will say that is too doomsday for them and will not. Their lens is solely their experience and they have never been to a country and paid 20,000,000 ZMK for a hotel bill. I have. I should find that receipt and post it, but there are examples of this on the internet. If you stick your blessing in the earth and hide it, you will lose it. How much more clear could I be? The Lord told me clearly that I would not be able to keep it if I did not walk by faith. It will take everything in me to finally come to financial freedom, have a lifetime's salary in the bank, post taxes, and have to spend it all to keep it. Some will say I am an absolute nut job... but I am telling this board that the number of people calling me and telling me the same thing is astonishing, and they are getting it on their own...... and almost all of them have started saying this in the last two months.

[umbertino]

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and they have never been to a country and paid 20,000,000 ZMK for a hotel bill

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Would that happen to be Zimbabwean Dollars? I know Zimbabwe printed 5 Million Notes or even higher....I was there many years ago. Beautiful Country.

Edited May 25, 2011 by umbertino

[MyUmbrella'sNtheCar]

Thanks for the post... Let's think through this a little. I want to give you a discerning response.

Personally I have participated in much much church. My premise for writing this article was that the dinar revaluation was about much more than a windfall. The systems of the world are in deep trouble, because those given responsibility for the money system have abused their power. I have tried to provide a scale of understanding that frames the size of the issue. I have also made the suggestion with a measure of connection to the bible that the windfall is of limited time frame. It will have the power to eliminate debt, first and foremost, because that was our primary instruction from the Lord. I am saying without hesitation that we are at a time where the Kingdom of God is emerging. I am currently in the ME and I was up this morning about 3:00 am to watch the news on Assyria and Jordan. The coincidence of these governments in overthrow is not a coincidence. It is "The kingdoms of this world are become the Kingdom of Our God" We know very clearly from scripture that God redeems these nations and this is the start of that very complex process. The turmoil is the precursor for the revaluation...

I say all this to make a point. The Kingdom coming will transform the way of doing things. By the end of this year, you will be witnessing that first hand. My intent was NOT to throw a bunch of scripture or teaching out here. It was to provide a thread of underdstanding that was much higher than the idle banter on most blog sites. I was impressed by the Lord to bring a slight awareness to people so that they would consider the windfall of dinar/USD would still be based on shifting sands. REMEMBER THIS : The same people that crashed the bus are the ones who are heavily invested in the dinar. There are huge hedge funds purchasing dinar at quantities that greatly surpass our realm of possibility.

So I have spoken of the Japan earthquake, but I have not mentioned the one at Christchurch in New Zealand. September 4, 2010 the quake struck this city and it garnered reporting around the globe. Particularly of interest, the city was built on a foundation of sand. When I first read the news, I caught that, but didn't know what it meant. There is a sort of fault under the city due to a sandy basin. A number of buildings were damaged due to being built on sandy soil. When the recent quake occured on Feb 22nd, we sat up and took notice. The spiritual meaning of such things takes time, so we are always carefult to observe on what is reported. The second quake was much more severe and it toppled the steeple from a very famous anglican church. The news reported that the church "would not be rebuilt". Now there is so much symbolism here, that it can hardly be coincidence. If we understand that the Kingdom Age replaces the church Age, then we should take careful account of the message.

I am not going to go into a long tirade on the failures of the church, but I believe the church is the only institution in the whole world that shoots its own wounded. Within the church, they see themselves as victims, but outside looking in, the world sees them as hypocrits for the most part. When we saw the news break of homosexuality, clergical predators, and money thieves, we knew instantly that things were being shouted from the rooftops. The religious system was being displayed for what it really was. Now, that does not take away from those who walk according to the conviction of their faith. They are out there too, and in fact they are very real. However, they too have been trodden underfoot by the system.

I have said this now a number of times. The system is failing. A system can kill you and not shed a tear at your funeral. My speculation at this time is that there are many many people who have been wounded by the system. I recently began to minister to a group of people who have been getting the homeless off the street. These are meth addicts, alcoholics, etc. etc. etc... the story is so well known it is repugnant. ALL OF THEM have grown up in the church and lost their way, because the church used people to build things, like steeples and glass towers. We are supposed to use things to build people. The systematic church organization (one that is not a family of Christ) produces broken bent men and women. I have talked to enough of them now to write a book about it.

Before receiving the right boot of fellowship, I was once a prominent member in a very large church. We began to build a building. In prayer the Lord told me that the church would begin debt free (if they would trust him). The organization was full of crusty money people too, full of selfish ambition and zeal without knowledge. They bullied their way to build a much much larger building, and in disobedience they took out a $1 million loan. When completed, the building was fabulous. The Lord however, was not impressed. He told me that the church would split. A few months later, the electricity was shut off and we had witnessed 500 people come and go in the course of 6 months. Six months later they split in the midst of turmoil. Before paying off any mortgage you had better ask the Lord. Some of those programs are built on sinking sand and need their spire knocked off. Don't support what God is not supporting.

I guess I am just willing to say it. The signs of the time we are in are VERY clear and undeniable, even though I am sure there are scads of religious that wish to do so. The church is no longer operating within the closed confines of steeples and stained glass. This is the restoration of David's fallen tent if you study it.... Don't sow your windfall into the system when there has been little to show for so much effort. You have to begin to think about Kingdom economy. We must become doers and not spectators meaning don't give your money to someone else to do what you were given the money to do yourself. When you lay up provision, think long term and not a one time event. Christ taught about sowing and reaping. You will soon have enough money to possibly fund the ministry indefintely so why give it to a broken system? The tithe was clearly meant for widows, orphans, and sojourners in the land. Instead the leaders built beautiful Anglican steeples and coveted the praises of men while collecting dues to be a Chistian. I am suggesting that MAYBE we start to do what God said, rather than what others told us what God said.

So I am very sure there are good churches out there that need financial help. We have identified one that serves others. I bought dinar for them and I am waiting for the Lord's instruction, but there is no plan to date. However, a church is a group of people, not a building; they are called out ones by definition. If you give to a church, know the difference.

Amen!