14 Denominations printed? Proof???

[aszone]

Post Saddam Hussein Issue

96 25,000 Dinars Image Sig. 26 2003/1424 ١٥/ز – ١/ز Replacement notes use ٩٩.

Sig. 27 2004/1425 ٢٥/ز – ١٥/ز

Sig. 27 2006/1427 ٣٨/ز – ٢٥/ز

Sig. 27 2008/1429 ٣٨/ز –

95 10,000 Dinars Image Sig. 26 2003/1424 ٢٣/و – ١/و

Sig. 27 2004/1425 ٣٠/و – ٢٣/و

Sig. 27 2006/1427 ٣٨/و –

94 5,000 Dinars Image Sig. 26 2003/1424 ٤٢/هـ – ١/هـ

Sig. 27 2006/1427 ٧٠/و – ٤٣/و

93 1,000 Dinars Image Sig. 26 2003/1424 ٨٨/د – ١/د

92 500 Dinars Image Sig. 27 2004/1425 ٥٧/ط – ١/ط

91 250 Dinars Image Sig. 26 2003/1424 ٨٠/ج – ١/ج

90 50 Dinars Image Sig. 26 2003/1424 ١٤

six blanks here with sig. 27 witch is Sinan Al Shibeebi (but name spelled wrong or good be bad translation) .. makes you wonder.. also the 500 dinar came out last in 2004 with sig 27.. looks like others were printed in 2006 and 2008

http://www.islamicbanknotes.com/iraq.htm

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/BV.aspx?ref=BVNav&from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.islamicbanknotes.com%2Firaq-signatures.htm

[ShawnW]

Thanks Keep! Good discussion.

I have been wondering where proof of this is as well. And no, quoting someone elses opinion, statement, or blog does not constitute proof.

However I wanted to bring up something of interest that was discussed at the end of last year (when the CBI website updated to its new look) was the interesting html code on the banknotes page.

Knowing a few IT guys myself, its true these guys try to build in code for future use, never wanting to redo an entire page of html when a little foresight would have prevented it.

So check it out. Go to the CBI website, click on "banknotes and coins" then right click and select "view page source" to check out the html coding.

Somewhere around lines 167 to 212 of the html code shows blanks for what looks like six more currency denominations.

Proof of lower denoms?? NOPE!

But you gotta wonder why the code is there..............

Staying thirsty my friend

That is interesting, and I have done enough html to know there is no good reason for that to be in there, unless you were planning on adding something of the same layout to it.

Very cool .

[TBnhispower]

Actually I think they added the 50 in 2004. I don't have the link up anymore. Still that is 7 denoms. Where are the others? No proof as yet.

Adam said his contact has seen them.

Hmmmm, makes me wonder about Adam's contact.

[TBnhispower]

Please do share where you read HE said there was 14 denoms printed........ http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/ask/20031120.html you all can read this interview with the General himself and he only mentions 6 denominations being printed....Ive been looking all over the web under his name for something about him telling us there are 14 denoms printed with no avail......so what have we learned today class??? That so far we have NO proof of 14 denoms being printed in the first place.....so where does that lead us today and at this point?? It would seem that these articles that are speaking of "new currency" could mean ANYTHING at this point......could very well mean they are coming out with a whole new currency and redenominating leaving us forced to exchange.....who knows?? It could still mean just lower denoms being released but guess what? NO ONE has proof they even exist....its only been hearsay......and of course last but not least....at least to this point we can confirm that there HAS NOT been 14 denominations printed to begin with like sooooo many people throw out there like its a proven fact with NOTHING to back that up which leaves them issuing a NEW currency still up in the air.....I challenge ALL of us here at DV to keep looking for the answer to this post so that we can move on with confidence in our investment........STAY THIRSTY MY FRIENDS!!!!

People, Keep is FOR this investment, but wants us all to ask the tough questions and not be led blindly. It doesn't seem that deserves any negative ratings. Together we can ask and expect answers!! It's quite reasonable to question when we have put our money into this. Anyone who trusts a person they meet on the internet is simply foolish. ASK!!!

[Traconesu02]

Even though we have all heard there were 14 denomination originally printed in 2003 - It is becoming obvious only the ones that are currently in circulation were printed at that time.

As much as it,at least appears we would all like to think the lower denominations were already printed,

I don't believe it will make much of a difference if they are printed tomorrow or 7 years ago.

The point is an RV of any consequence, in iraq, will require lower denominations - regardless if they were printed 7 years ago or tomorrow - this will not work without lower denominnation.

If the worry hear is: If they were not printed at the same time as the currency we now hold -

That the new printing of lower denominations would somehow make our currency worthless, seems unfounded to me.

If Iraq was to say at any point, that all of the currency they presently have distributed throughout the world is now worthless -

How would they ever expect the world, to ever allow their currency, to ever be internationally recognized .

In order to grow and prosper iraq needs an internationally recognized currency - that is the bottom line.

We are going to have to wait for that to happen - which it will - and when it does iraq currency will increase in value.

I believe 'keep' has made a very good point here.

I am not sure other than proving there were no lower denominations printed in 2003, it really makes much difference in this investment one way or the other. JMHO

By the way 'keep' you get a (+1) from me for standing up and asking the question.

[Chief V]

Post Saddam Hussein Issue

96 25,000 Dinars Image Sig. 26 2003/1424 ١٥/ز – ١/ز Replacement notes use ٩٩.

Sig. 27 2004/1425 ٢٥/ز – ١٥/ز

Sig. 27 2006/1427 ٣٨/ز – ٢٥/ز

Sig. 27 2008/1429 ٣٨/ز –

95 10,000 Dinars Image Sig. 26 2003/1424 ٢٣/و – ١/و

Sig. 27 2004/1425 ٣٠/و – ٢٣/و

Sig. 27 2006/1427 ٣٨/و –

94 5,000 Dinars Image Sig. 26 2003/1424 ٤٢/هـ – ١/هـ

Sig. 27 2006/1427 ٧٠/و – ٤٣/و

93 1,000 Dinars Image Sig. 26 2003/1424 ٨٨/د – ١/د

92 500 Dinars Image Sig. 27 2004/1425 ٥٧/ط – ١/ط

91 250 Dinars Image Sig. 26 2003/1424 ٨٠/ج – ١/ج

90 50 Dinars Image Sig. 26 2003/1424 ١٤

six blanks here with sig. 27 witch is Sinan Al Shibeebi (but name spelled wrong or good be bad translation) .. makes you wonder.. also the 500 dinar came out last in 2004 with sig 27.. looks like others were printed in 2006 and 2008

http://www.islamicbanknotes.com/iraq.htm

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/BV.aspx?ref=BVNav&from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.islamicbanknotes.com%2Firaq-signatures.htm

I agree. There are additional coded spaces, and even highlighted from the particular website showing the blanks. Giving 14, along with sig. 27 of Shabibi.

[Chief V]

I agree. There are additional coded spaces, and even highlighted from the particular website showing the blanks. Giving 14, along with sig. 27 of Shabibi.

The three guests from the Central Bank discussed the bank’s

plan to enhance the Iraqi banking sector and financial markets

throughout 2006. They highlighted a series of steps that have

already been taken, including:

• Establishing the Central Bank’s independence from the

Ministry of Finance

• Training 70% of the bank’s staff on international best

practices

• Printing a series of 14 new Iraqi Dinar notes and coins

NCGRANDMA posted this link on the other thread. http://www.cipe.org/regional/mena/iraq/pdf/bttv_synopsis_ep6.pdf

[00castle]

Good find CHIEFV.. But somehow I feel even this wont satisfy some people around here. +1 from me.

[gman51]

several months ago someone posted a link showing 1/4, 1/2, 1 and 10 dinar notes. It showed both sides. Does anyone still have that link and if so, will you please put it on DV?

I think those are shown on the CBI website under currency.

[Chief V]

Good find CHIEFV.. But somehow I feel even this wont satisfy some people around here. +1 from me.

Well NCGRANDMA gets credit for it. Here's the thing, and personally I don't care who it satisfies...lol. Most of us who've been here any amount of time over 6 months, or invested well over a year have found these documents in the past and they're on here somewhere. (Adams Archives) Otherwise why would we be so adamant about them? I know I read it a long time ago, can't remember where, and don't feel like going back to do research articles for people who haven't been here long enough to find their own documentation let alone ride on the coat tails of others or being spoon fed. Asking someone else to do your work for you??? Come on....gimme a break. This RV was supposed to have been done last Dec. 2009, now how in the heck would they have done it back then if they did not in fact already have the lower denom currency in place or printed for that matter? How is it a banker that I spoke with personally in Iraq told me that when he came back from his vacation in March expect the RV within 90 days? The owners of his bank told him that. He told me that face to face, now again would that not say that they have the smaller denoms' in place?? How would they be able to do the RV without them.....?

I grow weary of the doubt and arguing of others who've not done their due diligence. I love to help people and have no problem with doing so, but time and time again the same things are hashed out over and over, and that bothers me. It's kind of like stupidity. I really have a hard time with it....lol

V

[keepmwlknfny]

The three guests from the Central Bank discussed the bank’s

plan to enhance the Iraqi banking sector and financial markets

throughout 2006. They highlighted a series of steps that have

already been taken, including:

• Establishing the Central Bank’s independence from the

Ministry of Finance

• Training 70% of the bank’s staff on international best

practices

• Printing a series of 14 new Iraqi Dinar notes and coins

NCGRANDMA posted this link on the other thread. http://www.cipe.org/regional/mena/iraq/pdf/bttv_synopsis_ep6.pdf

Thank you Chief.....thats basically what Im looking for!!! I have not been able to find anything of the sort so thanks for sharing that link...... 14 new notes and coins.....sweeeet now i guess the only thing left is the guessing game of what exactly they are going to do with them!! STAY THIRSTY MY FRIENDS!!!

[Chief V]

Thank you Chief.....thats basically what Im looking for!!! I have not been able to find anything of the sort so thanks for sharing that link...... 14 new notes and coins.....sweeeet now i guess the only thing left is the guessing game of what exactly they are going to do with them!! STAY THIRSTY MY FRIENDS!!!

Thank NCGRANDMA, she's the one that located it. There was an article that came out a long time ago, I'm pretty sure it's in the archives here that stated it as well.

V

Let me add this as well so there's no misinterpretation:

http://www.casi.org.uk/info/cpa/20031015_CPAORD43.pdf

[BIGCG]

Nice find Chief that makes me feel alot more comfortable ill tell you that. - GO IRAQ GO RV/RI

[Traconesu02]

Thanks to NCGRANDMA & Chief V for locating these articles. Lets hope this is all over with very soon.

[ncgrandma]

Thank NCGRANDMA, she's the one that located it. There was an article that came out a long time ago, I'm pretty sure it's in the archives here that stated it as well.

V

Let me add this as well so there's no misinterpretation:

http://www.casi.org.uk/info/cpa/20031015_CPAORD43.pdf

Thank you for your kind words. Classy move giving me credit for my FIRST article!

[Stevarino]

Since we are all on the subject of currency and there being possibly a whole new currency altogether I must ask......Is there anyone that can show proof that De La Rue printed 14 denominations of the New Iraqi Dinar? There has ALWAYS been just TALK and people saying its fact but no proof for what I have seen my entire time researching and looking up info.....someone stated there was an article put out years ago that stated 14 were printed but I have yet to find it......I dont need more hearsay cause that gets us no where in this investment and just leaves people more confused......anyone have a link to this famed article stating the 14 denominations of the New Iraqi Dinar? As always........STAY THIRSTY MY FRIENDS!!!!

Proof? http://www.cipe.org/regional/mena/iraq/pdf/bttv_synopsis_ep6.pdf

Proof? http://www.cipe.org/regional/mena/iraq/pdf/bttv_synopsis_ep6.pdf

oops...ChiefV already found it too!

[RicknSaudi]

Very insightful. I would argue that the statement copied from the tant.pdf document inferring a "14" was more than likely a copy/paste error from the page number that it was printed on. Not sure where the "3 amigos" got their info from.

Also, the statement "For a people that want to reestablish their economy, a good, stable currency is an absolutely critical first step. It’s a foundation step towards building a new economy", I'd say that this foundation has been laid. The Dinar HAS been extremely stable. I do think that it ALSO needs to have some real value to it for any economic rebuilding to take place.

Go RV!

[quadraph0nic]

Thank NCGRANDMA, she's the one that located it. There was an article that came out a long time ago, I'm pretty sure it's in the archives here that stated it as well.

V

Let me add this as well so there's no misinterpretation:

http://www.casi.org.uk/info/cpa/20031015_CPAORD43.pdf

Thanks Chief. I've been kind of bummed and this is a nice pick me up. I know there will be more negative news and no matter what I'm staying the course. I just want it to be over so I can start fresh. You know where I'm coming from.

[Puff]

Sat Feb 27, 2010

Iraqi Dinar Revaluation and New Denominations

Recently there has been many discussions about the current news in Iraq in regards to the increase of its currency value and the introduction of new denominations into the Iraqi economy that is scheduled to be brought into action sometime during 2010.

The Iraq Finance Minister issued a statement disclosing preparation of increasing the value of the Dinar against the U.S. Dollar and will in fact issue ¼, 1/2, 1, 5, 10, 25 and possibly even 1/10 or 1/20 Dinar banknotes and/or coins.

Also claims have been reported that favorable fiscal policies sought after in Iraq have contributed to the increase of the value of the Dinar against the U.S. Dollar, pointing out that the Dollar had dropped a great deal in value just over the past year and yet in another press release it has been said that the bank is indeed with great attention keeping track of the low demand of the U.S. Dollar in the Iraq markets of currency exchange.

http://articlesofint...on-and-new.html

Now this is an earlier article from this year, if you'll note, it says ISSUE not print new denominations. What does that say to you? I know what it says to me. CBI still shows the coins on the website but they were pulled from circulation, which could very well show that they did in fact have other currencies already in place/printed. By the way the 500IQD was what was printed in 2004.

Now if you read this article, maybe you can ask this individual where he got it from??

From another site’s – Phoenix – Explanation Of Events

http://dinarded.word...tion-of-events/

Phoenix explanation of events

from DD site….

I do not frequent any of the listed dinar forums and it is nice to be able to see all of the “tid bits” in one place.

Here is something I shared with someone this am who was having doubts and I thought it would be good to share with all as a reminder.

Sometimes we need to take a glance back to see just from where we have come to know full well were we now stand.

Here is a refresher.

Iraqi is under chapter 7 UN sanctions and as we all know we may see the removal or modification of Chapter 7 sanctions this Tuesday the 16th as the UNSC meets on this very issue.

Chapter 7 is the 7th chapter of the UN charter which places nations under strong international economic

sanctions.

Iraq has been under UN Chapter 7 sanctions from 1991 until present.

They were placed under these sanctions right after the invasion of Kuwait.

It was under the authority of Chapter 7 sanctions that the UN/IMF/World Bank came into Iraq and took over the Central bank and the currency of Iraq.

When they did this they deemed all Iraqi Saddam Dinars void and issued the New Iraqi Dinar that we now hold.

This company DelaRue printed 9 Trillion IQD and they introduced this in October of 2003 and gave the Iraqis 3 months to exchange the old for the new.

A total of 4.5 trillion was exchanged and went into circulation and the rest was placed into protective storage.

When the new IQD was printed there were 14 denominations printed but only 9 have been issued to date and it is speculated the lower denominations that were not released are the ones that are about to go into circulation now as they remove the larger “zero notes”

It is speculated that the 5 missing denominations that we are about to see are the 25 dinar the 10 dinar the 5 dinar the 1 dinar and the 1/2 dinar notes.

When they did this change of currency they also devalued the currency to near worthless.

This massive devaluation was done for specific reasons.

Reason 1 was to prevent and hinder the resistance from having the funding to fight the US and British forces.

And the second reason was to prevent or reduce the pending humanitarian disaster that would have been caused by a flood of refugees into surrounding nations.

So by doing this massive over night devaluation they effectively froze/removed the personal monetary assets of all Iraqis.

Now it is under this same authority of the UN Chapter 7 and the sweeping powers it gives the international community over Iraqi assets that the revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar will happen and this also provides the legal bases of same.

So all that we will be seeing when the revaluation takes place is the return of the assets which were removed from the nation of Iraq and its people.

It is not like the nation of Iraq will be getting something out of no where…it is just that what was taken from the people and the nation of Iraq will be returned and even then only a fraction of what they once had.

So the reality of the situation is that after all is said and done the nation of Iraq after coming out of near 20 years of economic sanctions and after the return of the assets and wealth to the people and nation of Iraq the value of the Iraqi Dinar even AFTER the revaluation will be a fraction of what it was pre UN sanctions.

As it should be.

So what we are seeing now with all of the confusing articles on the removal of zeros is to be expected.

My analysis of all of the “removal of zero” articles is the following:

1. They are about to revalue the Iraqi Dinar to at or just above $1.00.

2. They at the same time will place into circulation the lower denominations, 25,10,5,1, and 1/2 dinar notes.

3. They will then give a set time for the removal of the “3 zero notes” (large denominations) and that deadline may be the end of 2010.

Now I have always thought we would see the removal of Chapter 7 sanctions at or near the same time as the revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar and as stated before we see that they have set this Tuesday the 16th for the meeting on this very subject.

So that is it…we see Iraq moving forward with the free and open democratic elections and we have the UNSC meeting this very week on the removal of Chapter 7 sanctions so all in all things are looking great.

So I just thought I would share this refresher with all on just where we have come from in an effort to clarify just where we now stand.

Chief, Thank you!!!!! Ever so much!!!!!

[Chief V]

Thanks Chief. I've been kind of bummed and this is a nice pick me up. I know there will be more negative news and no matter what I'm staying the course. I just want it to be over so I can start fresh. You know where I'm coming from.

I know exactly what you mean Quad, stay safe my friend,

V