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Much (at least right wing) media attention has been given to Powell's claim that she would "release the Kraken" against the Georgia elections.  Which she carried out last Wednesday.

If you read her complaint, its a farce.

 

She rambles on about the Smartmatic electronic voting system and Venezuela and Hugo Chavez but never shows any connection between Smarmatic and Dominion (the companies say there is none with separately developed software).   So that whole line is moot (no matter what happened in Venezula.   

 

She claims the Dominion software carried out a form of "ballot stuffing" but offers no evidence of this.  There are only 2 places to impact the count.  When the kiosk the voter uses prints out the ballot with the choices selected via touch screen, or when ballots (mail in and locally cast) are scanned and tabulated.  The first would require many kiosks to be tampered with and a review found no such tampering.  Further this method presumes 10s of thousands of Trump voters would not have noticed that the ballot printed by their kiosk had a big black dot next to Biden instead of Trump (i.e these are ballot marking machines not actual voting machines, the goal is to prevent the optical equivalent of the hanging chad and have each ballot perfectly filled out as the voter intends, no half filled in circles etc).   That all seems so unlikely as to be impossible.  The second method (false tabulation) is proven false by the hand recount that did not use the optical scanners or tabulation software.  So the Dominion claims are totally bogus as Trump's own HHS has stated.

 

She also claims that the Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger acted illegally by selecting the Dominion system, which ignores the fact that the legislature required him to do so.

 

The fact that Powell misspells District twice in the title of her complaint

"IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICCT COURT, NORTHERN DISTRCOICT OF GEORGIA, ATLANTA DIVISION"

does not exactly fill one with confidence either.  You would think running spellcheck over an official court document before submitting it would be standard practice.

 

It's interesting to note that the whole "they are cheating" meme was invented by Trump long before the election (i.e. before any evidence could exist).  The king of political dirty tricks Roger Stone created the StopTheSteal web site in early 2016 (check the wayback machine) just in case they needed it.  Despite winning the electoral collage and hence the 2016 election Trump notoriously claimed (and still does) that Clinton's popular vote win was a fraud and the Pence Election Integrity Commission would get to the bottom of that!  Yet when they did not find a single scrap of evidence to support their bogus claims the commission was quietly disbanded.  Yea that's integrity for you!  Trump started claiming Biden would cheat the moment Biden won the nomination (again way before any evidence even could exist) prepping his base to believe it if Trump lost.  Which he did, and which they sadly are doing.

 

Trump is the one trying to steal the election as he can simply not accept that he lost.  This has been a pattern for his whole life where somehow his bankruptcies and divorces and court losses are all somehow wins.  Not this time.

 

Looked at from another angle, if the Demarcates managed somehow to pull off this nation wide conspiracy yet leave no evidence (i.e. on television, or talk radio, or web sites  you can say whatever the producers will let you say, its in court were there are serious penalties for false claims or giving false evidence and in court so far all of Trumps claims have been thrown out) then why didn't they add a few seats to the House instead of losing a few and why not flip the Senate and oust McConnell?  The whole thing doesn't pass the smell test, and the Krakens are plenty pissed off about their good name being tarnished!

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1 hour ago, Markinsa said:

 

 

Can you say "Trump backlash"?  I'm guessing that a number of democrat candidates could have done the same.  Its not so much that folks think Biden is great, but that Trump has got to go, and in this case the only want to do that is vote for Biden (that certainly sums up my view).  Trump's election and presidency has broken all the norms, but why shouldn't his defeat be the same?

 

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8 U.S. House Races Still Have Not Been Called. Republicans Lead All 8 Races.

Ryan SaavedraNov 27, 2020

The results from eight U.S. House races have still not been finalized in the 2020 elections nearly four weeks after election day. The Republican candidates in all eight races currently are leading their Democrat opponents.

According to The New York Times, the following eight races have still not been officially called:

California’s 21st Congressional District; 98% reported:

  • Republican David Valadao: 50.5%
  • Democrat TJ Cox (incumbent): 49.5%

“Republican challenger Valadao of Hanford has a 1,820-vote lead over Fresno Democrat Cox, according to the California Secretary of State,” The Fresno Bee reported. “Fresno County Registrar of Voters Brandi Orth said she expects to be done with the county’s votes and ready to certify them on Friday. An unspecified number of votes that need fixes on their signatures remain to be counted.”

California’s 25th Congressional District; 98% reported:

  • Republican Mike Garcia (incumbent): 50.06%
  • Democrat Christy Smith: 49.94%

“Republican U.S. Rep. Mike Garcia claimed victory Friday in his back-and-forth contest with Democrat Christy Smith in the 25th District north of Los Angeles, a Southern California battleground that Democrats had captured just two years ago,” The Associated Press reported. “In a statement, Garcia said ‘victory is clear,’ given the votes remaining uncounted. The Associated Press has not declared a winner in the race.”

Iowa’s 2nd Congressional District; 89% reported:

  • Republican Mariannette Miller-Meeks: 196,880 votes
  • Democrat Rita Hart: 196,841 votes

“A Republican candidate saw her vote lead dwindle to single digits Wednesday in Iowa’s 2nd Congressional District as a dramatic recount moved toward a conclusion in a race that will help determine the size of Democrats’ majority in the House of Representatives,” the Iowa City Press-Citizen reported. “Republican Mariannette Miller-Meeks held a lead of eight votes over Democrat Rita Hart out of more than 394,400 cast, with recount boards in all but one of the district’s 24 counties reporting their results. Miller-Meeks is trying to flip a second congressional seat in Iowa for Republicans this cycle.”

New York’s 1st Congressional District; 77% reported:

  • Republican Lee Zeldin (incumbent): 61.3%
  • Democrat Nancy Goroff: 38.7%

No recent media reports.

New York’s 2nd Congressional District; 84% reported:

  • Republican Andrew Garbarino: 56.4%
  • Democrat Jackie Gordon: 42.6%

“Republican state assemblyman Andrew Garbarino won the U.S. House race in New York’s 2nd Congressional District, keeping the Long Island seat in GOP control,” Bloomberg News reported. “Garbarino beat Democrat and military veteran Jackie Gordon, who conceded the race, according to a statement posted on Twitter. Garbarino will succeed Republican Representative Peter King, who is retiring.”

New York’s 11th Congressional District; 85% reported:

  • Republican Nicole Malliotakis: 57.9%
  • Democrat Max Rose (incumbent): 42.1%

“Democrat Rep. Max Rose, facing a nearly 16-point deficit as the counting of absentee ballots began this week, on Thursday conceded to Republican Assemblywoman Nicole Malliotakis after a contentious battle for New York’s 11th Congressional District,” Spectrum News reported two weeks ago. “The swing district covers Staten Island and south Brooklyn. It will be the only congressional seat in New York City represented by a Republican.”

New York’s 22nd Congressional District; 92% reported:

  • Republican Claudia Tenney: 50.4%
  • Democrat Anthony Brindisi (incumbent): 47.4%

“A state judge has ordered a hold on the certification of election results in the tight race for a New York congressional district that stretches from Lake Ontario to the Pennsylvania border,” The Associated Press reported. “A state supreme court judge in Oswego County issued an injunction on Tuesday blocking all the eight counties included in the 22nd Congressional District from certifying results.”

New York’s 24th Congressional District; 92% reported:

  • Republican John Katko (incumbent): 57.4%
  • Democrat Dana Balter: 38.9%

“The Democrat challenging Republican U.S. Rep. John Katko in a battleground district in central New York conceded the race Friday,” The Associated Press reported 2 weeks ago. “Dana Balter said in a statement that after several days of absentee ballots being counted, it was clear she had no path forward.”

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1 hour ago, EverCurious452 said:

Can you say "Trump backlash"?  I'm guessing that a number of democrat candidates could have done the same.  Its not so much that folks think Biden is great, but that Trump has got to go, and in this case the only want to do that is vote for Biden (that certainly sums up my view).  Trump's election and presidency has broken all the norms, but why shouldn't his defeat be the same?

 

Because you can't explain it mathematically.  There is nothing that explains those numbers other than FRAUD.  Plain and simple. 

 

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This one is for you Ever,
 

8 U.S. House Races Still Have Not Been Called. Republicans Lead All 8 Races.

Ryan SaavedraNov 27, 2020

The results from eight U.S. House races have still not been finalized in the 2020 elections nearly four weeks after election day. The Republican candidates in all eight races currently are leading their Democrat opponents.

According to The New York Times, the following eight races have still not been officially called:

California’s 21st Congressional District; 98% reported:

  • Republican David Valadao: 50.5%
  • Democrat TJ Cox (incumbent): 49.5%

“Republican challenger Valadao of Hanford has a 1,820-vote lead over Fresno Democrat Cox, according to the California Secretary of State,” The Fresno Bee reported. “Fresno County Registrar of Voters Brandi Orth said she expects to be done with the county’s votes and ready to certify them on Friday. An unspecified number of votes that need fixes on their signatures remain to be counted.”

California’s 25th Congressional District; 98% reported:

  • Republican Mike Garcia (incumbent): 50.06%
  • Democrat Christy Smith: 49.94%

“Republican U.S. Rep. Mike Garcia claimed victory Friday in his back-and-forth contest with Democrat Christy Smith in the 25th District north of Los Angeles, a Southern California battleground that Democrats had captured just two years ago,” The Associated Press reported. “In a statement, Garcia said ‘victory is clear,’ given the votes remaining uncounted. The Associated Press has not declared a winner in the race.”

Iowa’s 2nd Congressional District; 89% reported:

  • Republican Mariannette Miller-Meeks: 196,880 votes
  • Democrat Rita Hart: 196,841 votes

“A Republican candidate saw her vote lead dwindle to single digits Wednesday in Iowa’s 2nd Congressional District as a dramatic recount moved toward a conclusion in a race that will help determine the size of Democrats’ majority in the House of Representatives,” the Iowa City Press-Citizen reported. “Republican Mariannette Miller-Meeks held a lead of eight votes over Democrat Rita Hart out of more than 394,400 cast, with recount boards in all but one of the district’s 24 counties reporting their results. Miller-Meeks is trying to flip a second congressional seat in Iowa for Republicans this cycle.”

New York’s 1st Congressional District; 77% reported:

  • Republican Lee Zeldin (incumbent): 61.3%
  • Democrat Nancy Goroff: 38.7%

No recent media reports.

New York’s 2nd Congressional District; 84% reported:

  • Republican Andrew Garbarino: 56.4%
  • Democrat Jackie Gordon: 42.6%

“Republican state assemblyman Andrew Garbarino won the U.S. House race in New York’s 2nd Congressional District, keeping the Long Island seat in GOP control,” Bloomberg News reported. “Garbarino beat Democrat and military veteran Jackie Gordon, who conceded the race, according to a statement posted on Twitter. Garbarino will succeed Republican Representative Peter King, who is retiring.”

New York’s 11th Congressional District; 85% reported:

  • Republican Nicole Malliotakis: 57.9%
  • Democrat Max Rose (incumbent): 42.1%

“Democrat Rep. Max Rose, facing a nearly 16-point deficit as the counting of absentee ballots began this week, on Thursday conceded to Republican Assemblywoman Nicole Malliotakis after a contentious battle for New York’s 11th Congressional District,” Spectrum News reported two weeks ago. “The swing district covers Staten Island and south Brooklyn. It will be the only congressional seat in New York City represented by a Republican.”

New York’s 22nd Congressional District; 92% reported:

  • Republican Claudia Tenney: 50.4%
  • Democrat Anthony Brindisi (incumbent): 47.4%

“A state judge has ordered a hold on the certification of election results in the tight race for a New York congressional district that stretches from Lake Ontario to the Pennsylvania border,” The Associated Press reported. “A state supreme court judge in Oswego County issued an injunction on Tuesday blocking all the eight counties included in the 22nd Congressional District from certifying results.”

New York’s 24th Congressional District; 92% reported:

  • Republican John Katko (incumbent): 57.4%
  • Democrat Dana Balter: 38.9%

“The Democrat challenging Republican U.S. Rep. John Katko in a battleground district in central New York conceded the race Friday,” The Associated Press reported 2 weeks ago. “Dana Balter said in a statement that after several days of absentee ballots being counted, it was clear she had no path forward.”

What is your point Pitcher?  This was the pattern for this election.  Trump lost even where down ballot republicans won.  i.e. even republicans wanted Trump gone.

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6 hours ago, Markinsa said:

 

Because you can't explain it mathematically.  There is nothing that explains those numbers other than FRAUD.  Plain and simple. 

Trump's unusual effect on people resulted in unusual voting patterns, that in no way implies fraud.  This is a classic misunderstanding/application of statistics.  The world is far less "smooth" than people think and claiming that a pattern in past elections let alone 'a" past election would be necessary be observed in another one let alone one with such different players, is ridiculous.

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4 minutes ago, EverCurious452 said:

What is your point Pitcher?  This was the pattern for this election.  Trump lost even where down ballot republicans won.  i.e. even republicans wanted Trump gone.

 

The point is those down ballot Republicans rode President Trump's coattails into the Election.  They are the result of voters turning out for President Trump and voting straight ticket Republican which the majority of my republican and democrat friends did, realizing the communist/socialist path Biden and the Democratic Ticket were promoting.  The Cubans in Florida saw it coming, and knew it for what it was.

 

If Biden was all that popular or the democratic party for that matter, there wouldn't have been 100's of Thousands of Ballots for Biden only.  :lol:

 

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2 minutes ago, EverCurious452 said:

Trump's unusual effect on people resulted in unusual voting patterns, that in no way implies fraud.  This is a classic misunderstanding/application of statistics.  The world is far less "smooth" than people think and claiming that a pattern in past elections let alone 'a" past election would be necessary be observed in another one let alone one with such different players, is ridiculous.

 

The math experts disagree with you.

 

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State lawmakers seek to decertify Pennsylvania election results, citing 'substantial irregularities'

More than two dozen state legislators have submitted a resolution seeking to decertify Pennsylvania's election results, saying there is proof of "substantial irregularities and improprieties associated with mail-in balloting."

The resolution introduced late Friday by 26 House Republicans must be acted upon by end of business Monday, when the current legislative session ends. It had not been scheduled for a vote as of early Saturday.

“It is absolutely imperative that we take these steps if we are to ensure public trust in our electoral system," the lawmakers said in a press release announcing their actions. "Faith in government begins with faith in the elections which select that government. Just as Pennsylvania led the founding of our nation, Pennsylvania should also lead the way by making sure our commonwealth continues to stand as a keystone in our nation where free and fair elections are of paramount concern, no matter the final outcome of those elections."

The resolution stated that the "selection of presidential electors and other statewide electoral contest results in this Commonwealth is in dispute" and that the Secretary of State's office and Gov. Tom Wolfe should "withdraw or vacate the certification of presidential electors."

It was introduced just three days after President Trump's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, made a presentation before a legislative body alleging fraud and misconduct in Pennsylvania's election, claims that Democratic leaders of the state dismissed.

You can read the full resolution here.

The lawmakers argued that Democratic state officials took substantial actions that changed the nature of the Nov. 3 election that were not authorized by the Legislature, and that it resulted in widespread irregularities including that:

  • "heavily Democrat counties permitted mail-in voters to cure ballot defects while heavily Republican counties followed the law and invalidated defective ballots; and
  • "in certain counties in the Commonwealth, watchers were not allowed to meaningfully observe the pre-canvassing and canvassing activities relating to absentee and mail-in ballots; and
  • "in other parts of the Commonwealth, watchers observed irregularities concerning the pre-canvassing and canvassing of absentee and mail-in ballots; and
  • "witnesses testifying before the Pennsylvania Senate Majority Policy Committee on November 25, 2020 have provided additional compelling information regarding the questionable nature of the administration of the 2020 General Election."

Among other things the resolution asks the state House of Representatives to acknowledge "substantial irregularities and improprieties associated with mail-in balloting, pre-canvassing, and canvassing during the November 3, 2020 election" and to disapprove "of the infringement on the General Assembly’s authority pursuant to the United States Constitution to regulate elections."

 

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One of my basic criticisms of Republicans is they are too passive. I think President Trump is doing a great job, but he's an unusual Republican in that he is very aggressive in pushing his agenda. Christians and Republicans got conned into being sheep, as if being passive is the way to be Christian. I doubt it. Jesus was profoundly moral and a good example. He hated  corruption. How did Jesus react to the corruption of his day? As I recall as a child in Sunday School, when Jesus found the moneychangers in the Temple, desecrating that place, he kicked some serious ass. Be like Jesus.

 

12 Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves. 13 “It is written,” he said to them, “‘My house will be called a house of prayer,’[a] but you are making it ‘a den of robbers.’[b]

 

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9 hours ago, Markinsa said:


The point is those down ballot Republicans rode President Trump's coattails into the Election. 

That is your claim, but the evidence of the votes says otherwise, that it was not the president carrying down ballot candidates.  But you want to simply impose your view onto the world irrespective of the data.

 

 

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If Biden was all that popular or the democratic party for that matter, there wouldn't have been 100's of Thousands of Ballots for Biden only.  :lol:

Wait, did you state your point as intended here?  You're saying that if Biden was so popular he would NOT have gotten so many votes?  Isn't that backwards?

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3 hours ago, Pitcher said:

State lawmakers seek to decertify Pennsylvania election results, citing 'substantial irregularities'

More than two dozen state legislators have submitted a resolution seeking to decertify Pennsylvania's election results, saying there is proof of "substantial irregularities and improprieties associated with mail-in balloting."

The resolution introduced late Friday by 26 House Republicans must be acted upon by end of business Monday, when the current legislative session ends. It had not been scheduled for a vote as of early Saturday.

“It is absolutely imperative that we take these steps if we are to ensure public trust in our electoral system," the lawmakers said in a press release announcing their actions. "Faith in government begins with faith in the elections which select that government. Just as Pennsylvania led the founding of our nation, Pennsylvania should also lead the way by making sure our commonwealth continues to stand as a keystone in our nation where free and fair elections are of paramount concern, no matter the final outcome of those elections."

The resolution stated that the "selection of presidential electors and other statewide electoral contest results in this Commonwealth is in dispute" and that the Secretary of State's office and Gov. Tom Wolfe should "withdraw or vacate the certification of presidential electors."

It was introduced just three days after President Trump's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, made a presentation before a legislative body alleging fraud and misconduct in Pennsylvania's election, claims that Democratic leaders of the state dismissed.

You can read the full resolution here.

The lawmakers argued that Democratic state officials took substantial actions that changed the nature of the Nov. 3 election that were not authorized by the Legislature, and that it resulted in widespread irregularities including that:

  • "heavily Democrat counties permitted mail-in voters to cure ballot defects while heavily Republican counties followed the law and invalidated defective ballots; and
  • "in certain counties in the Commonwealth, watchers were not allowed to meaningfully observe the pre-canvassing and canvassing activities relating to absentee and mail-in ballots; and
  • "in other parts of the Commonwealth, watchers observed irregularities concerning the pre-canvassing and canvassing of absentee and mail-in ballots; and
  • "witnesses testifying before the Pennsylvania Senate Majority Policy Committee on November 25, 2020 have provided additional compelling information regarding the questionable nature of the administration of the 2020 General Election."

Among other things the resolution asks the state House of Representatives to acknowledge "substantial irregularities and improprieties associated with mail-in balloting, pre-canvassing, and canvassing during the November 3, 2020 election" and to disapprove "of the infringement on the General Assembly’s authority pursuant to the United States Constitution to regulate elections."

 

Giuliani is NOT required to be truthful or have evidence to back up what he claims when making a presentation in a legislature let alone just in an informal meeting (i.e. this wasn't even a formal session).  He can say anything he wants and make any claims he wants saying what the audience wants to hear.  These same claim have been resoundingly dismissed, some WITH PREJUDICE, in court where there are serous penalties for presenting false evidence or making false claims (i.e. perjury).  So having failed totally in the one forum where you are required to tell the truth the effort moves to ones where such is not required to try an end run around the courts.  Its Trump that is trying to steal the election and obviously had this in mind in case he lost long  before any votes were cast.

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9 hours ago, Markinsa said:

 

The math experts disagree with you.

Only the ones (if they indeed are experts) that produced this sham analysis.  Anyone can publish anything in the popular press. There is no peer review on their methodology.  You accept it NOT because you understand it but because you like the conclusion.  Want to bet on the court outcome?

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The PA State Legislature Hearing Was a Powerful Moment for the Trump Legal Team

by Elizabeth VaughnPosted: November 28, 2020
 
 
 
 
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The PA State Legislature Hearing Was a Powerful Moment for the Trump Legal Team

As I prepared for my Thanksgiving superspreader event, I listened to the Pennsylvania state legislature’s four-hour public hearing on irregularities witnessed by polling observers in the 2020 election. I expected the testimony would simply be a repeat of what we’ve heard from the Trump legal team. It turned out to be far more powerful, persuasive and riveting than anything I’ve heard before.

Listening to the witness stories, one after another, intensified their strength. The fact that poll watchers at random precincts and counting stations throughout the state were reporting similar experiences and the nearly universal hostility of the Democratic poll workers leaves one with the feeling that this was all planned.

I was surprised by the caliber of the individuals who had come forward with their stories. They were an impressive and highly credible group. Most, but not all, had signed sworn affidavits. The witnesses included computer experts, attorneys, former military officials, professionals, entrepreneurs and stay-at-home moms. There were even a few Democrats among them.

Here are some of the most compelling moments from the hearing.

 

The most stunning testimony came from Phil Waldron, a retired Army Colonel. He told the group: “I spent the first half of my career just like [Pennsylvania state Senator who was hosting the event] Colonel Mastriano here as a calvary officer conducting armed reconnaissance, counter reconnaissance. Last half of my career spent in information warfare as a psychological operations officer and information operations officer, conducted computer network operations, electronic warfare, special electronic warfare, deception, counter deception and op sec and a couple of other specialties.”

Waldron shows the group a vote chart from Election night which clearly shows several major spikes which represent large numbers of votes coming in for Joe Biden. He tells the audience that normally, you would see a smooth line. The series of spikes that we see are an indication of fraud. In this case, he says that 570,000 votes came in for Biden, and only 3,200 for Trump, in a short period of time. The crowd “gasps.”

 

 

 

Gregory Stenstrom is a former commanding officer in the Navy, a veteran of foreign wars, current CEO of his own private company, forensic computer scientist and an expert in security and fraud. He was a poll watcher in Delaware County, PA.

“I personally observed USB cards being uploaded to voting machines by the voting machine warehouse supervisor on multiple occasions. This person is not being observed, he’s not a part of the process that I can see, and he is walking in with baggies of USBs.”

“In all cases the chain of custody was broken. It was broken for the mail-in ballots, the drop-box ballots, the Election Day USB card flash drives. In all cases they didn’t follow any of the procedures defined by the Board of Delaware County of Elections.”

“I literally begged multiple law enforcement agencies to go get the forensic evidence from the computers. It’s a simple process. It wouldn’t have taken more than an hour to image all 5 machines. That was never done despite my objections and that was three weeks ago.”

The most frightening part of Stenstrom’s testimony came at the end. He had “just learned two days ago that virtually all chain of custody logs, records, yellow sheets, everything, was gone. All forensic evidence, all custody sheets in [inaudible] County are gone. They had a signing party where they sat down and poll workers were invited back to recreate those logs and our understanding is as of today, was that they were unsuccessful in getting them all. So we have a situation in where we have 100,000 to 120,000 ballots, both mail in and USB, that are in question. Now there’s no cure for this, there’s no remedy for this. As a home charter we could have a re-election in Delaware County for our own representatives within our own town. But there is no cure for that for the president of the United States. And I don’t believe, as a citizen and an observer to this, that anybody could certify that vote in any good conscience.”

Gloria Lee Snover is the chairman of the Northampton, PA, Republican Committee. She testified by Zoom. She has worked on presidential campaigns and has been involved in politics for 25 years. In Snover’s opinion, the “ever-changing rules” made this one of the most complex elections she’s ever participated in.

There was mass confusion regarding the mail-in ballot system, she said. Voters would call her asking all sorts of questions such as: “I received a mail-in ballot when I hadn’t requested one…I did not get my ballot…My ballot says it wasn’t received and I turned it into the election office in person… My ballot says canceled. What should I do?…I voted in person and it still says not counted.”

The registrar threatened to turn Snover over to the district attorney for posting a photograph of “a voter ballot harvesting a large bag of ballots at a Northampton County dropbox. She [the registrar] was more concerned that this individual had been exposed than by the fact this was happening.”

Republicans were not offered the same opportunity to cure their ballots as the Democrats. Snover said, “We also found in Northampton County more than 1,500 votes where the mail-in ballots were received in the election office on a date before it was even mailed.”

Perhaps the most egregious development Snover recounted was a pattern of old voter rolls being reactivated. People who had not voted since the 1990s were sent mail-in ballots. “This set up the opportunity for fraud on a massive scale that would go undetected.”

At a minimum, the testimonies of these three witnesses (and the many others who came forward to tell their stories) provide starting points for further investigation.

Americans need to watch these hearings, as well as those from observers in other battleground states. The hearings should be broadcast to the American people in the same way that the Senate confirmation hearing of Justice Amy Coney Barrett was.

 

It was from listening to this testimony that I began to feel as if the Trump legal team may actually have a chance.

Clearly, the Democrats are ready to move on. But, even if Joe Biden is certified as the winner and is inaugurated in January, this investigation must go on. It’s very possible that this election was stolen from President Trump. Election officials must allow Republicans the opportunity to conduct forensic examinations of the voting hardware and software to make that determination. Americans deserve to know who actually won this election. Trump supporters need an answer, one way or another.

Below is the video of the entire hearing. Phil Waldron’s testimony begins at 1:22:45; Doug Stenstrom’s at 1:06:50 and Gloria Lee Snover’s at 2:19:00. Additionally, a transcript of the hearing can be viewed here.

 

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5 More Ways Joe Biden Magically Outperformed Election Norms

Surely the journalist class should be intrigued by the historic implausibility of Joe Biden’s victory. That they are not is curious, to say the least.

In all the excitement among objective journalists for Joe Biden’s declared victory, reporters are missing how extraordinary the Democrat’s performance was in the 2020 election. It’s not just that the former vice president is on track to become the oldest president in American history, it’s what he managed to accomplish at the polls this year.

Candidate Joe Biden was so effective at animating voters in 2020 that he received a record number of votes, more than 15 million more than Barack Obama received in his re-election of 2012. Amazingly, he managed to secure victory while also losing in almost every bellwether county across the country. No presidential candidate has been capable of such electoral jujitsu until now.

While Biden underperformed Hillarious Clinton’s 2016 totals in every urban county in the United States, he outperformed her in the metropolitan areas of Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Even more surprising, the former VP put up a record haul of votes, despite Democrats’ general failures in local House and state legislative seats across the nation.

He accomplished all this after receiving a record low share of the primary vote compared to his Republican opponent heading into the general election. Clearly, these are tremendous and unexpected achievements that would normally receive sophisticated analysis from the journalist class but have somehow gone mostly unmentioned during the celebrations at news studios in New York City and Washington, D.C.

The massive national political realignment now taking place may be one source of these surprising upsets. Yet still, to have pulled so many rabbits out of his hat like this, nobody can deny that Biden is a first-rate campaigner and politician, the likes of which America has never before seen. Let’s break down just how unique his political voodoo has been in 2020.

1. 80 Million Votes

Holy moly! A lot of Americans turned out for a Washington politician who’s been in office for nearly 50 years. Consider this: no incumbent president in nearly a century and a half has gained votes in a re-election campaign and still lost.

President Trump gained more than ten million votes since his 2016 victory, but Biden’s appeal was so substantial that it overcame President Trump’s record support among minority voters. Biden also shattered Barack Obama’s own popular vote totals, really calling into question whether it was not perhaps Biden who pulled Obama across the finish lines in 2008 and 2012.

Proving how sharp his political instincts are, the former VP managed to gather a record number of votes while consistently trailing President Trump in measures of voter enthusiasm. Biden was so savvy that he motivated voters unenthusiastic about his campaign to vote for him in record numbers.

2. Winning Despite Losing Most Bellwether Counties

Biden is set to become the first president in 60 years to lose the states of Ohio and Florida on his way to election. For a century, these states have consistently predicted the national outcome, and they have been considered roughly representative of the American melting pot as a whole. Despite national polling giving Biden a lead in both states, he lost Ohio by eight pointsand Florida by more than three.

For Biden to lose these key bellwethers by notable margins and still win the national election is newsworthy. Not since the Mafia allegedly aided John F. Kennedy in winning Illinois over Richard Nixon in 1960 has an American president pulled off this neat trick.

Even more unbelievably, Biden is on his way to winning the White House after having lost almost every historic bellwether county across the country. The Wall Street Journal and The Epoch Times independently analyzed the results of 19 counties around the United States that have nearly perfect presidential voting records over the last 40 years. President Trump won every single bellwether county, except Clallam County in Washington.

Whereas the former VP picked up Clallam by about three points, President Trump’s margin of victory in the other 18 counties averaged over 16 points. In a larger list of 58 bellwether counties that have correctly picked the president since 2000, Trump won 51 of them by an average of 15 points, while the other seven went to Biden by around four points. Bellwether countiesoverwhelmingly chose President Trump, but Biden found a path to victory anyway.

3. Biden Trailed Clinton Except in a Select Few Cities

Patrick Basham, a pollster with an accurate track record and the director of the Democracy Institute in D.C., highlighted two observations made by fellow colleagues, polling guru Richard Baris of Big Data Poll and election analyst Robert Barnes. Baris noted a statistical oddity from 2020’s election returns: “Biden underperformed Hillarious Clinton in every major metro area around the country, save for Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia.”

Barnes added that in those “big cities in swing states run by Democrats…the vote even exceeded the number of registered voters.” In the states that mattered most, so many mail-in ballots poured in for Biden from the cities that he put up record-breaking numbers and overturned state totals that looked like comfortable leads for President Trump.

If Democrats succeed in eliminating the Electoral College, Biden’s magic formula for churning out overwhelming vote totals in a handful of cities should make the Democrats unbeatable.

4. Biden Won Despite Democrat Losses Everywhere Else

Randy DeSoto noted in The Western Journal that “Donald Trump was pretty much the only incumbent president in U.S. history to lose his re-election while his own party gained seats in the House of Representatives.” Now that’s a Biden miracle!

In 2020, The Cook Political Report and The New York Times rated 27 House seats as toss-ups going into Election Day. Right now, Republicans appear to have won all 27. Democrats failed to flip a single state house chamber, while Republicans flipped both the House and Senate in New Hampshire and expanded their dominance of state legislatures across the country.

Christina Polizzi, a spokesperson for the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee, went so far as to state: “It’s clear that Trump isn’t an anchor for the Republican legislative candidates. He’s a buoy.” Amazingly, Biden beat the guy who lifted all other Republicans to victory. Now that’s historic!

5. Biden Overcame Trump’s Commanding Primary Vote

In the past, primary vote totals have been remarkably accurate in predicting general election winners. Political analyst David Chapman highlighted three historical facts before the election.

First, no incumbent who has received 75 percent of the total primary vote has lost re-election. Second, President Trump received 94 percent of the primary vote, which is the fourth highest of all time (higher than Dwight Eisenhower, Nixon, Clinton, or Obama). In fact, Trump is only one of five incumbents since 1912 to receive more than 90 percent of the primary vote.

Third, Trump set a record for most primary votes received by an incumbent when more than 18 million people turned out for him in 2020 (the previous record, held by Bill Clinton, was half that number). For Biden to prevail in the general election, despite Trump’s historic support in the primaries, turns a century’s worth of prior election data on its head.

Joe Biden achieved the impossible. It’s interesting that many more journalists aren’t pointing that out.

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25 minutes ago, Pitcher said:

5 More Ways Joe Biden Magically Outperformed Election Norms

Surely the journalist class should be intrigued by the historic implausibility of Joe Biden’s victory. That they are not is curious, to say the least.

In all the excitement among objective journalists for Joe Biden’s declared victory, reporters are missing how extraordinary the Democrat’s performance was in the 2020 election. It’s not just that the former vice president is on track to become the oldest president in American history, it’s what he managed to accomplish at the polls this year.

Candidate Joe Biden was so effective at animating voters in 2020 that he received a record number of votes, more than 15 million more than Barack Obama received in his re-election of 2012. Amazingly, he managed to secure victory while also losing in almost every bellwether county across the country. No presidential candidate has been capable of such electoral jujitsu until now.

While Biden underperformed Hillarious Clinton’s 2016 totals in every urban county in the United States, he outperformed her in the metropolitan areas of Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Even more surprising, the former VP put up a record haul of votes, despite Democrats’ general failures in local House and state legislative seats across the nation.

He accomplished all this after receiving a record low share of the primary vote compared to his Republican opponent heading into the general election. Clearly, these are tremendous and unexpected achievements that would normally receive sophisticated analysis from the journalist class but have somehow gone mostly unmentioned during the celebrations at news studios in New York City and Washington, D.C.

The massive national political realignment now taking place may be one source of these surprising upsets. Yet still, to have pulled so many rabbits out of his hat like this, nobody can deny that Biden is a first-rate campaigner and politician, the likes of which America has never before seen. Let’s break down just how unique his political voodoo has been in 2020.

1. 80 Million Votes

Holy moly! A lot of Americans turned out for a Washington politician who’s been in office for nearly 50 years. Consider this: no incumbent president in nearly a century and a half has gained votes in a re-election campaign and still lost.

President Trump gained more than ten million votes since his 2016 victory, but Biden’s appeal was so substantial that it overcame President Trump’s record support system" rel="">support among minority voters. Biden also shattered Barack Obama’s own popular vote totals, really calling into question whether it was not perhaps Biden who pulled Obama across the finish lines in 2008 and 2012.

Proving how sharp his political instincts are, the former VP managed to gather a record number of votes while consistently trailing President Trump in measures of voter enthusiasm. Biden was so savvy that he motivated voters unenthusiastic about his campaign to vote for him in record numbers.

2. Winning Despite Losing Most Bellwether Counties

Biden is set to become the first president in 60 years to lose the states of Ohio and Florida on his way to election. For a century, these states have consistently predicted the national outcome, and they have been considered roughly representative of the American melting pot as a whole. Despite national polling giving Biden a lead in both states, he lost Ohio by eight pointsand Florida by more than three.

For Biden to lose these key bellwethers by notable margins and still win the national election is newsworthy. Not since the Mafia allegedly aided John F. Kennedy in winning Illinois over Richard Nixon in 1960 has an American president pulled off this neat trick.

Even more unbelievably, Biden is on his way to winning the White House after having lost almost every historic bellwether county across the country. The Wall Street Journal and The Epoch Times independently analyzed the results of 19 counties around the United States that have nearly perfect presidential voting records over the last 40 years. President Trump won every single bellwether county, except Clallam County in Washington.

Whereas the former VP picked up Clallam by about three points, President Trump’s margin of victory in the other 18 counties averaged over 16 points. In a larger list of 58 bellwether counties that have correctly picked the president since 2000, Trump won 51 of them by an average of 15 points, while the other seven went to Biden by around four points. Bellwether countiesoverwhelmingly chose President Trump, but Biden found a path to victory anyway.

3. Biden Trailed Clinton Except in a Select Few Cities

Patrick Basham, a pollster with an accurate track record and the director of the Democracy Institute in D.C., highlighted two observations made by fellow colleagues, polling guru Richard Baris of Big Data Poll and election analyst Robert Barnes. Baris noted a statistical oddity from 2020’s election returns: “Biden underperformed Hillarious Clinton in every major metro area around the country, save for Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia.”

Barnes added that in those “big cities in swing states run by Democrats…the vote even exceeded the number of registered voters.” In the states that mattered most, so many mail-in ballots poured in for Biden from the cities that he put up record-breaking numbers and overturned state totals that looked like comfortable leads for President Trump.

If Democrats succeed in eliminating the Electoral College, Biden’s magic formula for churning out overwhelming vote totals in a handful of cities should make the Democrats unbeatable.

4. Biden Won Despite Democrat Losses Everywhere Else

Randy DeSoto noted in The Western Journal that “Donald Trump was pretty much the only incumbent president in U.S. history to lose his re-election while his own party gained seats in the House of Representatives.” Now that’s a Biden miracle!

In 2020, The Cook Political Report and The New York Times rated 27 House seats as toss-ups going into Election Day. Right now, Republicans appear to have won all 27. Democrats failed to flip a single state house chamber, while Republicans flipped both the House and Senate in New Hampshire and expanded their dominance of state legislatures across the country.

Christina Polizzi, a spokesperson for the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee, went so far as to state: “It’s clear that Trump isn’t an anchor for the Republican legislative candidates. He’s a buoy.” Amazingly, Biden beat the guy who lifted all other Republicans to victory. Now that’s historic!

5. Biden Overcame Trump’s Commanding Primary Vote

In the past, primary vote totals have been remarkably accurate in predicting general election winners. Political analyst David Chapman highlighted three historical facts before the election.

First, no incumbent who has received 75 percent of the total primary vote has lost re-election. Second, President Trump received 94 percent of the primary vote, which is the fourth highest of all time (higher than Dwight Eisenhower, Nixon, Clinton, or Obama). In fact, Trump is only one of five incumbents since 1912 to receive more than 90 percent of the primary vote.

Third, Trump set a record for most primary votes received by an incumbent when more than 18 million people turned out for him in 2020 (the previous record, held by Bill Clinton, was half that number). For Biden to prevail in the general election, despite Trump’s historic support system" rel="">support in the primaries, turns a century’s worth of prior election data on its head.

Joe Biden achieved the impossible. It’s interesting that many more journalists aren’t pointing that out.

 

Trump breaks all the norms in his campaign and election in 2016, in his term in office, and in the 2020 race.   But then you expect that the election results should reflect past norms about how primaries relate to the general election and such.  That seems conveniently inconsistent to me. 

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I don’t really like President Trump’s antics but I really don’t care for dead people voting, ballots with no signatures, illegals voting, people voting 2-3 times, votes being thrown away, watchers being denied access to the counting room, boxes of votes being wheeled into the counting room at 3 am, people who cross state lines to vote, ballot harvesting, paying for votes, a vote software machine whose partial owner is China.  

 

I dont know why you are so angry Biden is the announced winner.  Deep down you must think Trump won and had the election stolen.  

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10 hours ago, EverCurious452 said:

That is your claim, but the evidence of the votes says otherwise, that it was not the president carrying down ballot candidates.  But you want to simply impose your view onto the world irrespective of the data.

 

 

Wait, did you state your point as intended here?  You're saying that if Biden was so popular he would NOT have gotten so many votes?  Isn't that backwards?

 

Trump improved greatly in all the below metrics, and that had no effect on the votes Joe Biden received?  Explain that?

 

10 hours ago, EverCurious452 said:

Only the ones (if they indeed are experts) that produced this sham analysis.  Anyone can publish anything in the popular press. There is no peer review on their methodology.  You accept it NOT because you understand it but because you like the conclusion.  Want to bet on the court outcome?

 

 

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3 hours ago, Pitcher said:

I don’t really like President Trump’s antics but I really don’t care for dead people voting, ballots with no signatures, illegals voting, people voting 2-3 times, votes being thrown away, watchers being denied access to the counting room, boxes of votes being wheeled into the counting room at 3 am, people who cross state lines to vote, ballot harvesting, paying for votes, a vote software machine whose partial owner is China.  

Indeed those things would be bad.  A handful of errors happen in EVERY election (a dozen or so out of 150 million is pretty small, the Heritage foundation's data base on voting fraud literally shows one in a million, some 1200 ballots with some issue over 40 years and over a billion ballots cast).  If its enough to have an impact that is even more of an issue, but that is NOT the case here.  That is what we see in court.  When folks actually have to tell the truth, the cases are throw out for lack of evidence.  Its only on social media etc where all these bogus claims are made.

 

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I dont know why you are so angry Biden is the announced winner.  Deep down you must think Trump won and had the election stolen.  

What makes you think I am angry?  I am concerned that this constant drum beat of false info will have the effect of people thinking the election was not legitimate when there is in fact no reason to think that.   That is not healthy for democracy.  Being skeptical and searching for verifiable truth is one thing, believing in any conspiracy theory that fits  your world view is quite another.

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2 hours ago, Markinsa said:

 

Trump improved greatly in all the below metrics, and that had no effect on the votes Joe Biden received?  Explain that?

 

 

 

Yes it SOUNDS (at least to the untrained) so scientific but as a layman (at least in statistical analysis of voting) you (nor I) know what questions to ask, what are they not considering etc.   That is the whole point of peer review in scientific work (which this is very far from being).  Shiva Ayyadurai is not exactly a new comer to conspiracy theories and false claims either.  And this is your "expert"?   He is also taking as a given that votes were "transferred" and that ALL electronic election systems have this "algorithm" installed.  BS. go to court and prove it.  But they can't so they just go on social media to hook the gullible.   I already explained how with a hand count in Georgia there simply is no stage at which the ballots can be tampered with so this vote transfer algorithm claim is total BS.

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8 hours ago, EverCurious452 said:

 BS. go to court and prove it.  But they can't so they just go on social media to hook the gullible.   I already explained how with a hand count in Georgia there simply is no stage at which the ballots can be tampered with so this vote transfer algorithm claim is total BS.

 

Follow Sydney Powell's lawsuit, she has the evidence. Drag and dropped thousands of votes from one candidate to the other. 

 

Funny how all these glitches just happened.to favor Biden.

 

Are you not following what is being reported.by the right or are you just putting your fingers in your ears and acting like Sgt Schultz?

 

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1 hour ago, Markinsa said:

 

Follow Sydney Powell's lawsuit, she has the evidence.

We'll see.

 

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Drag and dropped thousands of votes from one candidate to the other. 

That is physically impossible in a hand recount (i.e. in Georgia were she has filed suit).

 

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Funny how all these glitches just happened.to favor Biden.

Since the results in court show they have been made up by Trump supporters why would that be surprising?

It's not funny, it's sad and dangerous as its an attack on the essence of democracy all being made in the name of patriotism (which should sound familiar to anyone with knowledge of the methods and motives of Joseph McCarthy).

 

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Are you not following what is being reported.by the right or are you just putting your fingers in your ears and acting like Sgt Schultz?

I do follow it somewhat to stay in touch with things, but you can say or "report" anything on social media.  If it's all so blatant why have they all failed in court where there are serious consequences for not telling the truth?  Or you are being lead by the right wing propaganda machine? 

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11 hours ago, EverCurious452 said:

I am concerned that this constant drum beat of false info will have the effect of people thinking the election was not legitimate when there is in fact no reason to think that.   That is not healthy for democracy.  Being skeptical and searching for verifiable truth is one thing, believing in any conspiracy theory that fits  your world view is quite another.

 

I’m glad you are not angry.  All the things I mentioned in my previous post are dangerous for our Nation.  To suggest that there was just a small amount of election error is just NOT true in this election.  

 

I will tell you another thing that is dangerous to our Nation is a Phony Russian Collusion Story and Spying on the President of the USA.  

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3 hours ago, Pitcher said:

 

I’m glad you are not angry.  All the things I mentioned in my previous post are dangerous for our Nation.  To suggest that there was just a small amount of election error is just NOT true in this election.  

Nothing beyond a few errors impacting a handful of votes has been offered in court.   I think so far something 38 cases have been dismissed (lack of evidence). 

 

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I will tell you another thing that is dangerous to our Nation is a Phony Russian Collusion Story and Spying on the President of the USA.  

There was nothing phony about it.  The Muller investigation clearly shows that Russian intelligence engaged in a large social media effort to help Trump and even some on the ground activities in the US.  Further that the Trump campaign knew about it, expected to benefit from it, and (this is the important part) assisted in it by "periodically" passing internal campaign polling data to the Russians.  That sort of data is exactly what you would need to program social media buys.   That did not constitute "coordination"  (as the Muller investigation defined it) where the two sides get together to decide on a plan forward and would be the basis for conspiracy.  Collusion is not a legal term but I think what the Trump campaign did clearly fits the definition as most people would view it.  i.e. they did knowingly cooperate with each other, even though that cooperation was unsolicited by either side.  Whatever you call it is seems like something we don't want to happen.  What impact it had on the election is impossible to determine.  (It does not make Trump's win illegitimate in any way.  Regardless of why people voted for Trump, they still voted for him).

 

The Russians engaging in a voter influence campaign in the US is not illegal as far as I know under current law.  It was a campaign finance violation for the Trump campaign (no US campaign is allowed to solicit or knowing accept anything of value from a foreign national).  Interestingly the pages in the Muller report where the campaign finance violation would seem likely to have been discussed (but just guessing) are fully redacted, they are entirely black.   We could pass laws preventing social media companies from selling campaign adds to foreign nationals, but such things are easy to get past by just not naming the candidate.  So I don't know how we can prevent this in the future.

 

Trump was not "spied" on.  Court reviews have upheld the legitimacy of the FBI counter intelligence actions on (2?) members of Trump's campaign but whatever they found was not passed onto the Democrats.    "Spying" is an illegitimate action for gain of the other side and that did not happen here.  This was a completely legal action by law enforcement where the data collected remained with the FBI (and as far as I know remains unrevealed to this day).

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