Obama congratulates the Muslim month of Ramadan and to hold a breakfast at the White House this week

[stargazer55]

shannybelle27, on 13 August 2010 - 09:46 PM, said:

Exactly! and he is also the first president to have the nativity scene taken down! What a clown! What is it going to take to get this guy out of the white house????? This country was founded on christianity and should be respected no matter what religion you are. This angers me so much!

More lies. The Nativity Scene was at it's normal place during Christmas.

I just received an email response from the White House for comment. Here’s what the First Lady’s office says:

“It has been a part of White House Christmas decorations in the past, it is on display in the East Room for all to enjoy and it will continue to be a part of White House Christmas decorations moving forward.”

“The President spoke movingly about the scene the crèche depicts in his remarks at the lighting of the National Christmas Tree last week: Tonight, we celebrate a story that is as beautiful as it is simple. The story of a child born far from home to parents guided only by faith, but who would ultimately spread a message that has endured for more than 2,000 years – that no matter who we are or where we are from, we are each called to love one another as brother and sister. While this story may be a Christian one, its lesson is universal. It speaks to the hope we share as a people. And it represents a tradition that we celebrate as a country – a tradition that has come to represent more than any one holiday or religion, but a season of brotherhood and generosity to our fellow citizens.”

As for whether there had been discussions about “inclusiveness,” the White House replied, “Discussions about inclusiveness did not include whether or not to display it but rather how to display it during the Hannukah party.”

Read more: http://radio.foxnews.com/2009/12/07/obama-wanted-non-religious-christmas/#ixzz0wYNIJt6j

As usual, more of your half truths. It wasn't like they didn't try to keep the display out.

Headline From the Baltimore Sun (Dec. 7, 2009):

“Report: Obamas balked at WH Nativity scene”

Excerpt from the New York Times (Dec. 4, 2009):

“But Washington is a city that likes its traditions, and Ms. Rogers has raised a few eyebrows by trying to bend them. When former social secretaries gave a luncheon to welcome Ms. Rogers earlier this year, one participant said, she surprised them by suggesting the Obamas were planning a “non-religious Christmas” — hardly a surprising idea for an administration making a special effort to reach out to other faiths.

The lunch conversation inevitably turned to whether the White House would display its crèche, customarily placed in a prominent spot in the East Room. Ms. Rogers, this participant said, replied that the Obamas did not intend to put the manger scene on display — a remark that drew an audible gasp from the tight-knit social secretary sisterhood. (A White House official confirmed that there had been internal discussions about making Christmas more inclusive and whether to display the crèche.)

Yet in the end, tradition won out; the executive mansion is now decorated for the Christmas holiday, and the crèche is in its usual East Room spot.”

Shanny knows O's agenda just fine.

[ajskj]

It wasn't the First Lady...it was her office.

And Shanny was WRONG...of COURSE you stand with her.

shannybelle27, on 13 August 2010 - 09:46 PM, said:

Exactly! and he is also the first president to have the nativity scene taken down! What a clown! What is it going to take to get this guy out of the white house????? This country was founded on christianity and should be respected no matter what religion you are. This angers me so much!

As usual, more of your half truths. It wasn't like they didn't try to keep the display out.

Headline From the Baltimore Sun (Dec. 7, 2009):

“Report: Obamas balked at WH Nativity scene”

Excerpt from the New York Times (Dec. 4, 2009):

“But Washington is a city that likes its traditions, and Ms. Rogers has raised a few eyebrows by trying to bend them. When former social secretaries gave a luncheon to welcome Ms. Rogers earlier this year, one participant said, she surprised them by suggesting the Obamas were planning a “non-religious Christmas” — hardly a surprising idea for an administration making a special effort to reach out to other faiths.

The lunch conversation inevitably turned to whether the White House would display its crèche, customarily placed in a prominent spot in the East Room. Ms. Rogers, this participant said, replied that the Obamas did not intend to put the manger scene on display — a remark that drew an audible gasp from the tight-knit social secretary sisterhood. (A White House official confirmed that there had been internal discussions about making Christmas more inclusive and whether to display the crèche.)

Yet in the end, tradition won out; the executive mansion is now decorated for the Christmas holiday, and the crèche is in its usual East Room spot.”

Shanny knows O's agenda just fine.

Um....did you READ Fox Radios bit?? Yes, they DISCUSSED not having the nativity up.....DURING HANNAKAH.

As for whether there had been discussions about “inclusiveness,” the White House replied, “Discussions about inclusiveness did not include whether or not to display it but rather how to display it during the Hannukah party.”

Read more: http://radio.foxnews.../#ixzz0wYNIJt6j

Read more:

However, Shanny was WRONG, he DID display it as usual.

Edited August 14, 2010 by ajskj

[dinarded]

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Friday, August 13, 2010

BETWEEN THE LINES

Obama's Ramadan blessing

Exclusive: Joseph Farah rubuts prez's claim Islam is just, tolerant, progressive

Posted: August 14, 2010

1:00 am Eastern

By Joseph Farah

There's a whole lot of pretending going on in our world today.

We have a federal judge ruling that the 5,000-year-old institution of marriage was "biased" and immoral from the start because of the way it discriminated unfairly against homosexuals.

We have a Justice Department that dismissed an open-and-shut case of vigilante-style voter intimidation because the perpetrators were black and the victims white.

And we have a man in the White House who extols Islam for "advancing justice, progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings."

That's what I call pretending.

In blessing the Muslim holiday of Ramadan, Barack Obama added that Islam "is a faith known for great diversity and racial equality" and that it "has always been part of America."

Brigitte Gabriel combats politically correct notions about the "religion of peace" in "They Must be Stopped: Why We Must Defeat Radical Islam and How we Can Do It"

I have more than a passing knowledge of Islam that includes firsthand experience and a significant amount of study over the last 30 years. But somehow I must have missed the advancements of justice, progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.

Honestly, I can think of none.

Did I overlook a reformation in the religion that has resulted in one genocide after another for the last 1,300 years? Racial equality? Has the Quran been rewritten to excise Muhammad's characterizations of blacks as "ugly," "raisin heads" and "pug-nosed slaves"?

Didn't it also say in that book that when Allah created the white man, he touched his right shoulder and he came out destined for paradise, but when he touched the left shoulder of the black man, he came out destined for hell?

Who does Obama think sold all those millions of black Africans into slavery in Europe and America? Is he not aware that black slavery is still alive in some Muslim countries in the Middle East?

Justice? Talk to me about it after you finish reading "The Stoning of Soriah M."

Progress? Can you name for me one major scientific or social advancement we can historically and accurately attribute to Islam?

Tolerance? I quote: "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people." Today, imams in the Middle East and elsewhere still quote Muhammad's hadith as their current marching orders: "The Hour [Day of Resurrection] will not arrive until you fight the Jews, [until a Jew will hide behind a rock or tree] and the rock and the tree will say: 'Oh Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!'"

(Column continues below)

Dignity of all human beings? In Islam, Muslim males have a higher worth than any others. A Muslim man can have up to four wives, beat them and change them as he pleases.

How about Islam always being a part of America?

Perhaps Obama is referring to the Barbary pirates attacking American commercial ships, capturing their crews and holding them for ransom. Or maybe he's thinking back further to the reason Christopher Columbus journeyed West – to find a safe trade route to the East, one that would mean avoiding the murderous mujahedeen who had blocked the land routes.

I don't know.

What do you think he's talking about?

Were any of the founders Muslim?

What are the great Muslim moments in American history?

Maybe all of this sounds harsh.

But somebody's got to say it.

I'm not going to sit still while this pretender of an American president lies about the historical record and misrepresents evil as good.

It's time to stop pretending.

[ajskj]

World Net Daily and Josef Farah....why am I NOT surprised....

Chuckle.

[dinarded]

World Net Daily and Josef Farah....why am I NOT surprised....

Chuckle.

That's all ya got? You ignore the points made, and WELL MADE I might add, and brush them off because of who wrote them?

You REALLY need to take the blinders off.

Look, it's QUITE EVIDENT that you are a leftover Obamabot from the election cycle. You have absolutely NO interest in the Iraqi Dinar. You are here for one thing and one thing only; to defend your god (obama) at every turn.

Go back to Fight The Smears and wait for the next election cycle. You're going to need all of the rest you can get!

Edited August 14, 2010 by dinarded

[ajskj]

That's all ya got? You ignore the points made, and WELL MADE I might add, and brush them off because of who wrote them?

You REALLY need to take the blinders off.

Yes....because World NUT Daily and Farah are well known for telling outright lies.

The point made??? Obama's speech is similar to ones made every year by Junior....didn't bother you at all then....

Bush Ramadan Speech - 2003-10-27

27 October 2003

"I send greetings to Muslims in the United States and around the world observing the holy month of Ramadan. "Ramadan is the holiest season in the Islamic faith, commemorating the revelation of the Qur'an to Muhammed. This month of introspection provides Muslims a time to focus on their faith and practice God's commands. Through fasting, prayer, contemplation, and charity, Muslims around the world renew their commitment to lead lives of honesty, integrity, and compassion.

"Throughout our history, people of different faiths have shaped the character of our Nation. Islam is a peaceful religion, and people who practice the Islamic faith have made great contributions to our Nation and the world. As Americans, we cherish our freedom to worship and we remain committed to welcoming individuals of all religions. By working together to advance freedom and mutual understanding, we are creating a brighter future of hope and opportunity.

Laura joins me in sending our best wishes. Ramadan mubarak."

OH MY GOD!!!! HE even said RAMADAN MUBARAK!!!

Edited August 14, 2010 by ajskj

[dinarded]

Yes....because World NUT Daily and Farah are well known for telling outright lies.

The point made??? Obama's speech is similar to ones made every year by Junior....didn't bother you at all then....

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"I send greetings to Muslims in the United States and around the world observing the holy month of Ramadan. "Ramadan is the holiest season in the Islamic faith, commemorating the revelation of the Qur'an to Muhammed. This month of introspection provides Muslims a time to focus on their faith and practice God's commands. Through fasting, prayer, contemplation, and charity, Muslims around the world renew their commitment to lead lives of honesty, integrity, and compassion.

"Throughout our history, people of different faiths have shaped the character of our Nation. Islam is a peaceful religion, and people who practice the Islamic faith have made great contributions to our Nation and the world. As Americans, we cherish our freedom to worship and we remain committed to welcoming individuals of all religions. By working together to advance freedom and mutual understanding, we are creating a brighter future of hope and opportunity.

Laura joins me in sending our best wishes. Ramadan mubarak."

OH MY GOD!!!! HE even said RAMADAN MUBARAK!!!

**********News ALERT*********

George W. Bush is NO LONGER our President! He hasn't been for 19 months now..................

Once again, just like the god (obama) you feverishly worship and defend, when you CAN'T defend your position, you bash Bush.

I don't care what Bush said, I was against his embracing of Islam then, and I'm against it today.

You have not a mind of your own, you are very predictable; therefore defeatable.

[shannybelle27]

More lies. The Nativity Scene was at it's normal place during Christmas.

I just received an email response from the White House for comment. Here’s what the First Lady’s office says:

“It has been a part of White House Christmas decorations in the past, it is on display in the East Room for all to enjoy and it will continue to be a part of White House Christmas decorations moving forward.”

“The President spoke movingly about the scene the crèche depicts in his remarks at the lighting of the National Christmas Tree last week: Tonight, we celebrate a story that is as beautiful as it is simple. The story of a child born far from home to parents guided only by faith, but who would ultimately spread a message that has endured for more than 2,000 years – that no matter who we are or where we are from, we are each called to love one another as brother and sister. While this story may be a Christian one, its lesson is universal. It speaks to the hope we share as a people. And it represents a tradition that we celebrate as a country – a tradition that has come to represent more than any one holiday or religion, but a season of brotherhood and generosity to our fellow citizens.”

As for whether there had been discussions about “inclusiveness,” the White House replied, “Discussions about inclusiveness did not include whether or not to display it but rather how to display it during the Hannukah party.”

Read more: http://radio.foxnews.com/2009/12/07/obama-wanted-non-religious-christmas/#ixzz0wYNIJt6j

Either way the illegal originally didn't want the nativity scene up and that is why there was some controversy. The point I was trying to make was he does not respect the tradition's nor the faith of what this country was founded upon. You can believe what you want and I will believe what I want.

“Unlike almost all Americans—including atheists—the Obamas do not give their children Christmas gifts. We know this because Barack bragged about this last year to People magazine. So it should come as no big surprise that he and his wife would like to neuter Christmas in the White House. That’s their natural step—to ban the public display of Christian symbols. Have any doubts? Last April, Georgetown University was ordered to put a drape over the name of Jesus as a condition of the president speaking there". How disgraceful is that! SICK SICK SICK

Any way you put it that man Is not my president.

Read more: http://radio.foxnews.com/2009/12/07/obama-wanted-non-religious-christmas/#ixzz0wZ06Xqkh

Edited August 14, 2010 by shannybelle27

[bulldawg]

Ajskj, man you need to get back on your medication before those nice young men in the white coats bring you that special jacket and put you back in the funny room, you know, the one you share from time to time with Skippy.

All joking aside, have a blessed day.

God loves you.

Regards,

Dawg

Edited August 14, 2010 by bulldawg

[ajskj]

**********News ALERT*********

George W. Bush is NO LONGER our President! He hasn't been for 19 months now..................

Once again, just like the god (obama) you feverishly worship and defend, when you CAN'T defend your position, you bash Bush.

I don't care what Bush said, I was against his embracing of Islam then, and I'm against it today.

You have not a mind of your own, you are very predictable; therefore defeatable.

FUnny...there was no great outcry like this when EVERY OTHER PRESIDENT....INCLUDING W did this. Why now??

Sorry...this proves that it is you that does not have a mind of your own.

Ajskj, man you need to get back on your medication before those nice young men in the white coats bring you that special jacket and put you back in the funny room, you know, the one you share from time to time with Skippy.

All joking aside, have a blessed day.

God loves you.

Regards,

Dawg

Predictable response when the truth is shown to the blinded.

Either way the illegal originally didn't want the nativity scene up and that is why there was some controversy. The point I was trying to make was he does not respect the tradition's nor the faith of what this country was founded upon. You can believe what you want and I will believe what I want.

“Unlike almost all Americans—including atheists—the Obamas do not give their children Christmas gifts. We know this because Barack bragged about this last year to People magazine. So it should come as no big surprise that he and his wife would like to neuter Christmas in the White House. That’s their natural step—to ban the public display of Christian symbols. Have any doubts? Last April, Georgetown University was ordered to put a drape over the name of Jesus as a condition of the president speaking there". How disgraceful is that! SICK SICK SICK

Any way you put it that man Is not my president.

Yes, actually he is...unless you are not a citizen of the US. Just like Junior was mine.....though I didn't like it one bit.

And no, they wanted to MOVE it during HANNUKAH....do you understand WHY?? So....not giving Christmas gifts is NEUTERING CHRISTMAS?? In what world?? What commandment is there that says that you must honor the birth of Jesus Christ by spending money?? Actually, people that do not give gifts probably honor Christmas MORE than those who thinks that the commercialism of Christmas is what it is all about.

Read more: http://radio.foxnews.com/2009/12/07/obama-wanted-non-religious-christmas/#ixzz0wZ06Xqkh

[bulldawg]

FUnny...there was no great outcry like this when EVERY OTHER PRESIDENT....INCLUDING W did this. Why now??

Sorry...this proves that it is you that does not have a mind of your own.

Predictable response when the truth is shown to the blinded.

Chuckles...........I can see clearly and I have come to the realization that some are so blinded by ignorance that they can only regurgitate thoughts of others. I am sorry to say that you are beyond help and I will not waste any more of my time trying to rehabilitate you. Therefore, you must seek help else where.

Have a wonderful day,

Dawg

Edited August 14, 2010 by bulldawg

[Banjolatusak]

Three things my Grandmother told me never to speak about in public...sex...politics...and religion. Why? Other than being very derisive subjects these three issue are nobody's business but your own. My Grandmother also said for every friend with whom you agree, in respect to these three issues, you will encounter ten enemies. Would you rather silently agree with your friends or loudly argue with your enemies?

There's a quote generally attributed to President Abraham Lincoln that says " Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt".

Peace be with you.

Edited August 14, 2010 by Banjolatusak

[The Watcher]

I don't blame you for being angry....I am too.

He cancelled the National day of prayer but had Muslim prayer on the lawn where he joined..... now he is having a breakfast and stating that they share the same principles..... but even worse he states Muslims have made efforts and acheivements of the powerful towards the greatness of OUR country....

Please watch and you'll understand why this is so frightening

WOW...I bet you thought that G W Bush was frightening too....when he celebrated Ramadan by having DINNER with them...

By the way...Bush had THIS to say....

As the new moon signals the holy month of Ramadan, I extend warm greetings to Muslims throughout the United States and around the world.

The Islam that we know is a faith devoted to the worship of one God, as revealed through The Holy Qu'ran. It teaches the value and importance of charity, mercy, and peace. And it is one of the fastest growing religions in America, with millions of American believers today.

The American Muslim community is as varied as the many Muslim communities across the world. Muslims from diverse backgrounds pray together in mosques all across our great land. And American Muslims serve in every walk of life, including our Armed Forces.

The Holy Qu'ran says: "Piety does not lie in turning your face to the East or West. Piety lies in believing in God." (2:177). Americans now have turned to acts of charity, sending relief to the Afghan people, who have suffered for so many years. America is proud to play a leading role in the humanitarian relief efforts in Afghanistan, through airdrops and truck convoys of food, medicine, and other much-needed supplies. And today we are committed to working for the long-term reconstruction of that troubled land.

We send our sincerest wishes to Muslims in America and around the world for health, prosperity, and happiness during Ramadan and throughout the coming year.

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/ramadan/2003/index.bak.html

WOW...he even quoted the Quoran!!!!!

Aha!!! It IS George Bushs fault! Seriously, some of us are being fooled by the fool in the White House. I have not studied the Koran very much, but could someone point out to me that Islam is a religion of love, peace, and tolerance. When a religion teaches that infidels (unbelievers) deserve death by beheading, it is not a religion of peace and tolerance. Let the crusades begin, lock and load!

[Traconesu02]

Thanks for the post Chief V

[jimanita]

He cancelled the National day of prayer but had Muslim prayer on the lawn where he joined..... now he is having a breakfast and stating that they share the same principles..... but even worse he states Muslims have made efforts and acheivements of the powerful towards the greatness of OUR country....

Please watch and you'll understand why this is so frightening

That's funny....bet THIS didn't turn your stomach.....

As the new moon signals the holy month of Ramadan, I extend warm greetings to Muslims throughout the United States and around the world.

The Islam that we know is a faith devoted to the worship of one God, as revealed through The Holy Qu'ran. It teaches the value and importance of charity, mercy, and peace. And it is one of the fastest growing religions in America, with millions of American believers today.

The American Muslim community is as varied as the many Muslim communities across the world. Muslims from diverse backgrounds pray together in mosques all across our great land. And American Muslims serve in every walk of life, including our Armed Forces.

The Holy Qu'ran says: "Piety does not lie in turning your face to the East or West. Piety lies in believing in God." (2:177). Americans now have turned to acts of charity, sending relief to the Afghan people, who have suffered for so many years. America is proud to play a leading role in the humanitarian relief efforts in Afghanistan, through airdrops and truck convoys of food, medicine, and other much-needed supplies. And today we are committed to working for the long-term reconstruction of that troubled land.

We send our sincerest wishes to Muslims in America and around the world for health, prosperity, and happiness during Ramadan and throughout the coming year.

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/ramadan/2003/index.bak.html

[ajskj]

I have come to the realization that some are so blinded by ignorance that they can only regurgitate thoughts of others.

Exactly.....like those who quote World Nut Daily.

Aha!!! It IS George Bushs fault! Seriously, some of us are being fooled by the fool in the White House. I have not studied the Koran very much, but could someone point out to me that Islam is a religion of love, peace, and tolerance. When a religion teaches that infidels (unbelievers) deserve death by beheading, it is not a religion of peace and tolerance. Let the crusades begin, lock and load!

Junior thought it was the religion of mercy and peace. Just pointing out that the things that Junior did....you thought were no big deal....now that Obama does the EXACT SAME THING....OH MY GOD!!! It's blatantly hypocritical.

[Mr. Phonics]

I have come to the realization that some are so blinded by ignorance that they can only regurgitate thoughts of others.

Exactly.....like those who quote World Nut Daily.

Junior thought it was the religion of mercy and peace. Just pointing out that the things that Junior did....you thought were no big deal....now that Obama does the EXACT SAME THING....OH MY GOD!!! It's blatantly hypocritical.

You're forgetting something.... G.W. Bush was a proclaimed Christian with a church. Obama "says" he's a Christian, yet he has no church. G.W. might of said those things but at the end of the day, he was a Christian. Can you say that about Obama?

[ajskj]

You're forgetting something.... G.W. Bush was a proclaimed Christian with a church. Obama "says" he's a Christian, yet he has no church. G.W. might of said those things but at the end of the day, he was a Christian. Can you say that about Obama?

REALLY??? Which church did Junior regularly attend?? He didn't....said he didn't want to "disrupt" the services......chuckle.

The last President who regularly attended church was Clinton.

And yes, Obama is a Christian. Far more so than junior...who would rather eat pretzels and watch a football game than go to church.

[Unitedrich]

REALLY??? Which church did Junior regularly attend?? He didn't....said he didn't want to "disrupt" the services......chuckle.

The last President who regularly attended church was Clinton.

And yes, Obama is a Christian. Far more so than junior...who would rather eat pretzels and watch a football game than go to church.

And the ultimate objective of your point is..........

I understand that your are on the opposite end of the spectrum from many on here in regards to politics.

Your opinion is yours and yours only, and I respect that fact, however, it puzzles me that you would continue to take the lashings and continual (being backed into a corner) that it appears that you seem to thrive on. I understand you do not care about your reputation as it is obvious by your numbers, but it baffles me why you are so adamant on arguing your point, again which is..........

[ajskj]

And the ultimate objective of your point is..........

I understand that your are on the opposite end of the spectrum from many on here in regards to politics.

Your opinion is yours and yours only, and I respect that fact, however, it puzzles me that you would continue to take the lashings and continual (being backed into a corner) that it appears that you seem to thrive on. I understand you do not care about your reputation as it is obvious by your numbers, but it baffles me why you are so adamant on arguing your point, again which is..........

LOL!! This is a very right wing forum. I came here to learn about dinar....and found that the right wingers here were intent on passing on lies and misinformation about the President. Of course, the stupid minus points will pile up...as I point out that the emails they so fervently believe are not true.....doesn't bother me at all. I think it's hilarious that you guys think it means anything at all.

I have not once been backed into a corner here at all.....I have had some of the more intelligent posters THANK ME for pointing out misinformation....as they DISLIKE passing on lies....while the less intelligent attack me for making them actually LOOK at the truth.

Had you read through the thread...you would have known that the post you are confused about was in reply to the one complaining that Obama does not attend church unlike his predecessor.....which is FALSE.

If you dislike the President and his policies...fine. Couldn't care less. But LIES will continue to be pointed out....despite the childish minuses you guys are so enamored with.

Edited August 14, 2010 by ajskj

[Unitedrich]

Oh, I read the post. Btw, no minuses from me, I guess I will just have to remain one of those with less intelligence.

Thank you for your reply.

[Traconesu02]

Of course, the stupid minus points will pile up...as I point out that the emails they so fervently believe are not true.....doesn't bother me at all. I think it's hilarious that you guys think it means anything at all.

I can see the minus points mean nothing to you, by your negative reputation.

Whether you wish to believe it or not they do mean something to some of the people on this site.

I personally will click on a persons name in a post just to see what people on this site think of that persons posting.

Eventually you will see, all you will generate on this site, will be negative comments to your posts.

You may not care much about that as this is not a popularity contest here.

But why bother to post anything, if the majority that read your posts, view them as a joke or they disagree with your postings.?

It does not make alot of sense to me either.

[ajskj]

Oh, I read the post. Btw, no minuses from me, I guess I will just have to remain one of those with less intelligence.

Thank you for your reply.

Dang...I was hoping to end up with two hundred by the end of the day....ROFLOL!!

[tallone41]

Three things my Grandmother told me never to speak about in public...sex...politics...and religion. Why? Other than being very derisive subjects these three issue are nobody's business but your own. My Grandmother also said for every friend with whom you agree, in respect to these three issues, you will encounter ten enemies. Would you rather silently agree with your friends or loudly argue with your enemies?

There's a quote generally attributed to President Abraham Lincoln that says " Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt".

Peace be with you.

Thank YOU for your quote! It was displayed with much class!! Continue blessings to first your grandmother for her wisdom and to your family.

Kindest Regards

[ajskj]

I can see the minus points mean nothing to you, by your negative reputation.

Whether you wish to believe it or not they do mean something to some of the people on this site.

I personally will click on a persons name in a post just to see what people on this site think of that persons posting.

Eventually you will see, all you will generate on this site, will be negative comments to your posts.

You may not care much about that as this is not a popularity contest here.

But why bother to post anything, if the majority that read your posts, view them as a joke or they disagree with your postings.?

It does not make alot of sense to me either.

So...no one should ever post anything if someone else disagrees with them?? Well...that explains this folder.....

If I had this many minuses because of posing about the dinar...I would be concerned. However, this many temper tantrum points for pointing out lies is hilarious.

And I will continue to point out lies because a FEW of the more intelligent have actually LOOKED at the truth and understood it. Reaching just a few of you is worth it...the rest are hopeless.