bush and cheny dinar

[Miss Mini]

And we wonder we so many foreigners believe that Americans are under-educated, uninformed and/or ignorant. Never cease to be amazed.

Personally, I am sick of all the Obama bashing, Bush bashing and bashing of the government in general. Can we please focus on why we all are really here? I thought we wanted information about our dinar investment. At least that's why I come to this site. I'm starting to believe that I made a mistake in joining because all you people want to do is see how many agree with your right wing ideals. It is a waste of time. BACK TO THE DINAR NEWS PLEASE!!!!!

[hiram601]

Personally, I am sick of all the Obama bashing, Bush bashing and bashing of the government in general. Can we please focus on why we all are really here? I thought we wanted information about our dinar investment. At least that's why I come to this site. I'm starting to believe that I made a mistake in joining because all you people want to do is see how many agree with your right wing ideals. It is a waste of time. BACK TO THE DINAR NEWS PLEASE!!!!!

Sorry you feel that way... I don't care if you are a "right winger" or a progressive. But you know the old saying if you don't like what you are hearing ... you can always turn it off or not click of the posting. I for one am proud to exclaim proudly I am one of those evil right wingers and pray this country returns to the principles established by our founding fathers and will fight to defend our Constitution.

[Mr. Mud Duck]

Who knows if Bush has Dinars!!!!!! I know if I was Bush and I had Dinars, I would have made sure the RV happened on my watch!!!

who cares whos watch it happens on, just so long as it happens. Go RV!

[rv4jayjay]

Let me guess. Your sister-in-law's cousin's barber knew a guy who had a friend who's brother put air in the airplane's tires? Well, that is actually about as good as any other "intel" around here.

well if you dont like the intel from this sight u could always get all your info from terryk and the rest of the GET team

[jmilkey]

OH Miss Mini...what you fail to see is that our Dinar and our country are linked. And you are obviously a liberal and I am sure it is tough facing some reality and having to listen to real people complain about what is happening to our beloved country. Obama (Barry) (BTW is this the first president who changed their name? and why do you change your name unless you are in the entertainment business?) Taxation is killing the economy and if Obama gets his Cap and Trade (Energy tax) passed you can bet we are headed for a double dip recession.

Back to the Dinar, it is highly likely we will be handing over 35% + to the government when the RV happens. This could go up if Obama gets his way....thats why so many bring it up on the forum. Anything and everything that affects our investment is discussed here....this will be the most significant hit to your future financial situation after how well you do when you convert your Dinar to USD and the spread you get. (Some banks are expected to take a 10% to 18% spread, Watch OUT!).

I hope all my fellow patriots are doing there part to make a difference where it really counts, not just here in the forum, but with all the conservatives who are running this November to turn the country around and make O a lame duck for his last two years and so we can do some triage on our country.

[RICK C]

Well Miss Mini or Anyone else, if you think the Pres & our Elected Officals are doing so great for us, Please read This E-Mail from a friend today,And see IF you STILL think the same way. Mods feel free to MOVE OR DELETE at your Discreation. Thank you.-Read below------------

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In just six months, the largest tax hikes in the history of America

<http://cts.vresp.com/c/?Matt/f4eda8278c/aa1d797a34/31c5b8082d/func=startdown&id646> will take effect. They will hit families and small businesses in

three great waves on January 1, 2011:

First Wave: Expiration of 2001 and 2003 Tax Relief

In 2001 and 2003, the GOP Congress enacted several tax cuts for

investors, small business owners, and families.

These will all expire on January 1, 2011:

Personal income tax rates will rise. The top income tax rate will

rise from 35 to 39.6 percent (this is also the rate at which

two-thirds of small business profits are taxed). The lowest rate

will rise from 10 to 15 percent. All the rates in between will also

rise. Itemized deductions and personal exemptions will again phase

out, which has the same mathematical effect as higher marginal tax

rates. The full list of marginal rate hikes is below:

- The 10% bracket rises to an expanded 15%

- The 25% bracket rises to 28%

- The 28% bracket rises to 31%

- The 33% bracket rises to 36%

- The 35% bracket rises to 39.6%

Higher taxes on marriage and family. The “marriage penalty”

(narrower tax brackets for married couples) will return from the

first dollar of income. The child tax credit will be cut in half

from $1000 to $500 per child. The standard deduction will no longer

be doubled for married couples relative to the single level. The

dependent care and adoption tax credits will be cut.

The return of the Death Tax. This year, there is no death tax. For

those dying on or after January 1 2011, there is a 55 percent top

death tax rate on estates over $1 million. A person leaving behind

two homes and a retirement account could easily pass along a death

tax bill to their loved ones.

Higher tax rates on savers and investors. The capital gains tax will

rise from 15 percent this year to 20 percent in 2011. The dividends

tax will rise from 15 percent this year to 39.6 percent in 2011.

These rates will rise another 3.8 percent in 2013.

Second Wave: Obamacare

There are over twenty new or higher taxes in Obamacare

<http://cts.vresp.com/c/?Matt/f4eda8278c/aa1d797a34/8607dc921e

. Several will first go into effect on January 1, 2011. They

include:

The “Medicine Cabinet Tax” Thanks to Obamacare, Americans will

no longer be able to use health savings account (HSA), flexible

spending account (FSA), or health reimbursement (HRA) pre-tax dollars

to purchase non-prescription, over-the-counter medicines (except

insulin).

The “Special Needs Kids Tax” This provision of Obamacare imposes

a cap on flexible spending accounts (FSAs) of $2500 (Currently, there

is no federal government limit). There is one group of FSA owners

for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents

of special needs children. There are thousands of families with

special needs children in the United States, and many of them use

FSAs to pay for special needs education. Tuition rates at one

leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington,

D.C. (National Child Research Center

<http://cts.vresp.com/c/?Matt/f4eda8278c/aa1d797a34/f2dd13e4da/pidhttp://ncrcpreschool.org/page.php?pidhttp://cts.vresp.com/c/?Matt/f4eda8278c/aa1d797a34/c3b14d3983/pid> ) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars

can be used to pay for this type of special needs education.

The HSA Withdrawal Tax Hike. This provision of Obamacare increases

the additional tax on non-medical early withdrawals from an HSA from

10 to 20 percent, disadvantaging them relative to IRAs and other

tax-advantaged accounts, which remain at 10 percent.

Third Wave: The Alternative Minimum Tax and Employer Tax Hikes

When Americans prepare to file their tax returns in January of 2011,

they’ll be in for a nasty surprise—the AMT won’t be held

harmless, and many tax relief provisions will have expired. The

major items include:

The AMT will ensnare over 28 million families, up from 4 million last

year. According to the left-leaning Tax Policy Center

<http://cts.vresp.com/c/?Matt/f4eda8278c/aa1d797a34/a68ccd4aa6/DocID'02> , Congress’ failure to index the AMT will lead to an explosion of

AMT taxpaying families—rising from 4 million last year to 28.5

million. These families will have to calculate their tax burdens

twice, and pay taxes at the higher level. The AMT was created in

1969 to ensnare a handful of taxpayers.

Small business expensing will be slashed and 50% expensing will

disappear. Small businesses can normally expense (rather than

slowly-deduct, or “depreciate”) equipment purchases up to

$250,000. This will be cut all the way down to $25,000. Larger

businesses can expense half of their purchases of equipment. In

January of 2011, all of it will have to be “depreciated.”

Taxes will be raised on all types of businesses. There are literally

scores of tax hikes on business that will take place. The biggest is

the loss of the “research and experimentation tax credit,” but

there are many, many others

<http://cts.vresp.com/c/?Matt/f4eda8278c/aa1d797a34/08204c66db/func=startdown&id646> . Combining high marginal tax rates with the loss of this tax relief

will cost jobs.

Tax Benefits for Education and Teaching Reduced. The deduction for

tuition and fees will not be available. Tax credits for education

will be limited. Teachers will no longer be able to deduct classroom

expenses. Coverdell Education Savings Accounts will be cut.

Employer-provided educational assistance is curtailed. The student

loan interest deduction will be disallowed for hundreds of thousands

of families.

Charitable Contributions from IRAs no longer allowed. Under current

law, a retired person with an IRA can contribute up to $100,000 per

year directly to a charity from their IRA. This contribution also

counts toward an annual “required minimum distribution.” This

ability will no longer be there.

PDF Version

<http://cts.vresp.com/c/?Matt/f4eda8278c/aa1d797a34/9b5b9f19a6

Read more:

http://cts.vresp.com/c/?Matt/f4eda8278c/aa1d797a34/2d176c4b68

<http://cts.vresp.com/c/?Matt/f4eda8278c/aa1d797a34/3e2fbc430b

Now your insurance is INCOME on your W2's......

One of the surprises we'll find come next year, is what follows - - a

little "surprise" that 99% of us had no idea was included in the

"new and improved" healthcare legislation . . . the dupes, er, dopes,

who backed this administration will be astonished!

Starting in 2011, (next year folks), your W-2 tax form sent by your

employer will be increased to show the value of whatever health

insurance you are given by the company. It does not matter if that's

a private concern or governmental body of some sort. If you're

retired? So what; your gross will go up by the amount of insurance

you get.

You will be required to pay taxes on a large sum of money that you

have never seen. Take your tax form you just finished and see what

$15,000 or $20,000 additional gross does to your tax debt. That's

what you'll pay next year. For many, it also puts you into a new

higher bracket so it's even worse.

This is how the government is going to buy insurance for the15% that

don't have insurance and it's only part of the tax increases.

Not believing this??? Here is a research of the summaries.....

On page 25 of 29: TITLE IX REVENUE PROVISIONS- SUBTITLE A: REVENUE

OFFSET PROVISIONS-(sec. 9001, as modified by sec. 10901) Sec.9002

"requires employers to include in the W-2 form of each employee the

aggregate cost of applicable employer sponsored group health coverage

that is excludable from the employees gross income."

Joan Pryde is the senior tax editor for the Kiplinger letters. Go to

Kiplingers and read about 13 tax changes that could affect you.

Number 3 is what is above.

Why am I sending you this? The same reason I hope you forward this

to every single person in your address book.

People have the right to know the truth because an election is coming

in November.

Edited July 22, 2010 by RICK C

[DesertPete]

Basically that is correct but that dinar may be in the Federal Reserve. Which means that it is not owned by that US Gov. If the US gov. has some stashed somewhere else that someone can bring that forward but in either case do not ever think for one minute that this government will ever announce that our debt is paid off to any degree. Even though this war and recovery was paid for by the blood of our soldiers and the hard earned dollars of US citizens it is my opinion that it will never be announce that we have been reimbursed in any way. To do so would mean that they would have to lower our taxes in some way and that will never happen. Government is not in the business of making money they only take and spend it.

100% correct!

To do anything different would not be consistent with their Socialist/Marxist agenda to control EVERY aspect of YOUR life!

WAKE UP AMERICA!

[Dinarasaurus]

Just a hypothetical question for everyone. I'm neither a Bush or Obama hater or supporter, I dislike all politics and all politicians.On that note my question. Say the dinar doesn't revalue,and as some have said the Bush Presidency has purchased a tremendous amount of dinar for the U.S., does he(President Bush) take the blame and get chastised for the war not paying for itself and costing the American taxpayer money on top of all the blood and human life that has been paid to date. And does President Obama get the blame for the RV not happening causing our debt to stay where it is or possibly get even worse causing another economic collapse. Just curious to see where everyone stands.

[terrigray]

What is even a scarier, is that he actually believes that he is doing the right thing. His philosophy has brought him to his conclusions. Spreading the wealth ,to him, is the right thing to do. It doesn't matter if you had a dream and built a business or waited 7 years for an investment came to fruition, he believes that someone that never had a constructive dream, vision or ambition should get half of what you have earned.

And those people he is "spreading the wealth" to could have their own dreams and visions manifest but believe the lie that someone elses dream and visions have to pay for them as if they are not worthy to tap into the Creative Intelligence which is available to everyone.

[DALLASDCC]

ok guys,this is my first post,i'm new to all this,so be nice,i'm also a female so if i sound stupid be gentle.ok i started buying dinar in april- just wondering ,i heard from 2 different people who do not know each other,that bush and cheney bought a ton of dinar for the u.s,now if it rv's does that make that guy who thinks he is the president(obama) a hero ???? like to say we have enough dinar to pay off our debt???

Never sell yourself short, no one has all the answers. Intelligence can be measured in so many different ways that no person can have the monopoly. There is no difference in the cognitive abilities between men and women, and let no one tell you otherwise. Welcome to the community and buckle your seat belt.

[Miss Mini]

Well Miss Mini or Anyone else, if you think the Pres & our Elected Officals are doing so great for us, Please read This E-Mail from a friend today,And see IF you STILL think the same way. Mods feel free to MOVE OR DELETE at your Discreation. Thank you.-Read below------------

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In just six months, the largest tax hikes in the history of America

<http://cts.vresp.com/c/?Matt/f4eda8278c/aa1d797a34/31c5b8082d/func=startdown&id646> will take effect. They will hit families and small businesses in

three great waves on January 1, 2011:

First Wave: Expiration of 2001 and 2003 Tax Relief

In 2001 and 2003, the GOP Congress enacted several tax cuts for

investors, small business owners, and families.

These will all expire on January 1, 2011:

Personal income tax rates will rise. The top income tax rate will

rise from 35 to 39.6 percent (this is also the rate at which

two-thirds of small business profits are taxed). The lowest rate

will rise from 10 to 15 percent. All the rates in between will also

rise. Itemized deductions and personal exemptions will again phase

out, which has the same mathematical effect as higher marginal tax

rates. The full list of marginal rate hikes is below:

- The 10% bracket rises to an expanded 15%

- The 25% bracket rises to 28%

- The 28% bracket rises to 31%

- The 33% bracket rises to 36%

- The 35% bracket rises to 39.6%

Higher taxes on marriage and family. The “marriage penalty”

(narrower tax brackets for married couples) will return from the

first dollar of income. The child tax credit will be cut in half

from $1000 to $500 per child. The standard deduction will no longer

be doubled for married couples relative to the single level. The

dependent care and adoption tax credits will be cut.

The return of the Death Tax. This year, there is no death tax. For

those dying on or after January 1 2011, there is a 55 percent top

death tax rate on estates over $1 million. A person leaving behind

two homes and a retirement account could easily pass along a death

tax bill to their loved ones.

Higher tax rates on savers and investors. The capital gains tax will

rise from 15 percent this year to 20 percent in 2011. The dividends

tax will rise from 15 percent this year to 39.6 percent in 2011.

These rates will rise another 3.8 percent in 2013.

Second Wave: Obamacare

There are over twenty new or higher taxes in Obamacare

<http://cts.vresp.com/c/?Matt/f4eda8278c/aa1d797a34/8607dc921e

. Several will first go into effect on January 1, 2011. They

include:

The “Medicine Cabinet Tax” Thanks to Obamacare, Americans will

no longer be able to use health savings account (HSA), flexible

spending account (FSA), or health reimbursement (HRA) pre-tax dollars

to purchase non-prescription, over-the-counter medicines (except

insulin).

The “Special Needs Kids Tax” This provision of Obamacare imposes

a cap on flexible spending accounts (FSAs) of $2500 (Currently, there

is no federal government limit). There is one group of FSA owners

for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents

of special needs children. There are thousands of families with

special needs children in the United States, and many of them use

FSAs to pay for special needs education. Tuition rates at one

leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington,

D.C. (National Child Research Center

<http://cts.vresp.com/c/?Matt/f4eda8278c/aa1d797a34/f2dd13e4da/pidhttp://ncrcpreschool.org/page.php?pidhttp://cts.vresp.com/c/?Matt/f4eda8278c/aa1d797a34/c3b14d3983/pid> ) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars

can be used to pay for this type of special needs education.

The HSA Withdrawal Tax Hike. This provision of Obamacare increases

the additional tax on non-medical early withdrawals from an HSA from

10 to 20 percent, disadvantaging them relative to IRAs and other

tax-advantaged accounts, which remain at 10 percent.

Third Wave: The Alternative Minimum Tax and Employer Tax Hikes

When Americans prepare to file their tax returns in January of 2011,

they’ll be in for a nasty surprise—the AMT won’t be held

harmless, and many tax relief provisions will have expired. The

major items include:

The AMT will ensnare over 28 million families, up from 4 million last

year. According to the left-leaning Tax Policy Center

<http://cts.vresp.com/c/?Matt/f4eda8278c/aa1d797a34/a68ccd4aa6/DocID'02> , Congress’ failure to index the AMT will lead to an explosion of

AMT taxpaying families—rising from 4 million last year to 28.5

million. These families will have to calculate their tax burdens

twice, and pay taxes at the higher level. The AMT was created in

1969 to ensnare a handful of taxpayers.

Small business expensing will be slashed and 50% expensing will

disappear. Small businesses can normally expense (rather than

slowly-deduct, or “depreciate”) equipment purchases up to

$250,000. This will be cut all the way down to $25,000. Larger

businesses can expense half of their purchases of equipment. In

January of 2011, all of it will have to be “depreciated.”

Taxes will be raised on all types of businesses. There are literally

scores of tax hikes on business that will take place. The biggest is

the loss of the “research and experimentation tax credit,” but

there are many, many others

<http://cts.vresp.com/c/?Matt/f4eda8278c/aa1d797a34/08204c66db/func=startdown&id646> . Combining high marginal tax rates with the loss of this tax relief

will cost jobs.

Tax Benefits for Education and Teaching Reduced. The deduction for

tuition and fees will not be available. Tax credits for education

will be limited. Teachers will no longer be able to deduct classroom

expenses. Coverdell Education Savings Accounts will be cut.

Employer-provided educational assistance is curtailed. The student

loan interest deduction will be disallowed for hundreds of thousands

of families.

Charitable Contributions from IRAs no longer allowed. Under current

law, a retired person with an IRA can contribute up to $100,000 per

year directly to a charity from their IRA. This contribution also

counts toward an annual “required minimum distribution.” This

ability will no longer be there.

PDF Version

<http://cts.vresp.com/c/?Matt/f4eda8278c/aa1d797a34/9b5b9f19a6

Read more:

http://cts.vresp.com/c/?Matt/f4eda8278c/aa1d797a34/2d176c4b68

<http://cts.vresp.com/c/?Matt/f4eda8278c/aa1d797a34/3e2fbc430b

Now your insurance is INCOME on your W2's......

One of the surprises we'll find come next year, is what follows - - a

little "surprise" that 99% of us had no idea was included in the

"new and improved" healthcare legislation . . . the dupes, er, dopes,

who backed this administration will be astonished!

Starting in 2011, (next year folks), your W-2 tax form sent by your

employer will be increased to show the value of whatever health

insurance you are given by the company. It does not matter if that's

a private concern or governmental body of some sort. If you're

retired? So what; your gross will go up by the amount of insurance

you get.

You will be required to pay taxes on a large sum of money that you

have never seen. Take your tax form you just finished and see what

$15,000 or $20,000 additional gross does to your tax debt. That's

what you'll pay next year. For many, it also puts you into a new

higher bracket so it's even worse.

This is how the government is going to buy insurance for the15% that

don't have insurance and it's only part of the tax increases.

Not believing this??? Here is a research of the summaries.....

On page 25 of 29: TITLE IX REVENUE PROVISIONS- SUBTITLE A: REVENUE

OFFSET PROVISIONS-(sec. 9001, as modified by sec. 10901) Sec.9002

"requires employers to include in the W-2 form of each employee the

aggregate cost of applicable employer sponsored group health coverage

that is excludable from the employees gross income."

Joan Pryde is the senior tax editor for the Kiplinger letters. Go to

Kiplingers and read about 13 tax changes that could affect you.

Number 3 is what is above.

Why am I sending you this? The same reason I hope you forward this

to every single person in your address book.

People have the right to know the truth because an election is coming

in November.

I never said any politician was great. Please re-read my post. I simply want to talk about dinars, not politics. If you ain't talking money, don't talk to me!

[PAPATOM]

Obama has no philosophy. He is an opportunist like all the other progressives. He wants to redistribute our wealth. I don't see him redistributing his wealth or any of George Soros' wealth. It is all about power. He (Soros) wants to control us and ultimately the world.

Obama is a lackey for Soros.

don't ever expect the U.S. government to pay off our debt. they may reduce our debt by paying off some bonds or bills that other countries hold...like china or Russia...and by reducing that kind of debt..they can strengthen our dollar on the market. The Federal reserve bank is no more federal than Federal Express. They are a central bank that basically owns our economy. I am sure that a lot more politicians own a boat load of Dinar than Bush and Cheney .

if your'e interested in the whole U.S. central Bank idea (the fed.reserve).........just go on utube and watch the monster on Jekyl island or any of the videos like that....it's a real education about the U.S. economic problems. Obama making the statement that the U.S. will pay off it's debt in 3 years (to the G20) was quite a statement...I think he meant all foreign debt. he did not mean debt owed to the Fed reserve. just my opinion

[army03]

ok guys,this is my first post,i'm new to all this,so be nice,i'm also a female so if i sound stupid be gentle.ok i started buying dinar in april- just wondering ,i heard from 2 different people who do not know each other,that bush and cheney bought a ton of dinar for the u.s,now if it rv's does that make that guy who thinks he is the president(obama) a hero ???? like to say we have enough dinar to pay off our debt???

You should love this forum most don't like President Obama and will never say anything good about him even if they wanted too. But, just to give you the latest info this so call guy is the President of the Untied States and the american people put him in position and not these folks on this forum. So enjoy newbe. WATCH AND LEARN. When things not going go about our investment everybody wants to down the President.

[Cherysh]

mofo, no matter what b.o. does he will not look like a Ihero...except to those who already think he is and it appears as though nothing can 'change' their minds....sad but true...welcome to DV...

I would say Mr Obama pretty much has his crew brain washed....

[DALLASDCC]

And we wonder we so many foreigners believe that Americans are under-educated, uninformed and/or ignorant. Never cease to be amazed.

Who cares what foreigners believe? People act like the U.S. is the epitome of all that is wrong in the world, no one in the U.S. made Europe a declining socialist conglomerate, or Africa a text book case of third world corruption. Freedom is what makes this country great, and the callousness that flows from the rest of the world is not caused by this.

[army03]

Sorry you feel that way... I don't care if you are a "right winger" or a progressive. But you know the old saying if you don't like what you are hearing ... you can always turn it off or not click of the posting. I for one am proud to exclaim proudly I am one of those evil right wingers and pray this country returns to the principles established by our founding fathers and will fight to defend our Constitution.

See newbe you are not WATCHING instead just ride the wagon of others. The above poster has his/her opinion to what they believe's in and you act like you can ban someone or force them to other forum. I'm glad I don't have to support you as a Presdent of anything. Question, have you ever heard of a debate? Then try it with someone that disagree with you couldn't hurt...Take care Newbe and good luck in life.

[Miss Mini]

Sorry you feel that way... I don't care if you are a "right winger" or a progressive. But you know the old saying if you don't like what you are hearing ... you can always turn it off or not click of the posting. I for one am proud to exclaim proudly I am one of those evil right wingers and pray this country returns to the principles established by our founding fathers and will fight to defend our Constitution.

I clicked on the posting hoping to learn that Bush and Cheyney have also invested in the dinar, which would make me feel more confident about my investement. Men who have been in powerful positions would obviously have more intel than I. I had no idea it was another political bash fest. Had I known, I would not have clicked.

[hiram601]

don't ever expect the U.S. government to pay off our debt. they may reduce our debt by paying off some bonds or bills that other countries hold...like china or Russia...and by reducing that kind of debt..they can strengthen our dollar on the market. The Federal reserve bank is no more federal than Federal Express. They are a central bank that basically owns our economy. I am sure that a lot more politicians own a boat load of Dinar than Bush and Cheney .

if your'e interested in the whole U.S. central Bank idea (the fed.reserve).........just go on utube and watch the monster on Jekyl island or any of the videos like that....it's a real education about the U.S. economic problems. Obama making the statement that the U.S. will pay off it's debt in 3 years (to the G20) was quite a statement...I think he meant all foreign debt. he did not mean debt owed to the Fed reserve. just my opinion

I agree with you completely. Congress surrendered their constitutional mandate to a private entity in creating the federal reserve. When I said the founding principles and the U.S. Constitution I meant by going back to those principles I meant advocating doing away with the federal reserve and taking up back to the gold standard and reestablishing the Central Bank of the United States where it is owned by the people of the United States not by a group of banks that were bailed out by taxpayer money. Only the United States federal government has the authority to print money and not a group of private banks. Anything else is unconstitutional.

[mofo]

OH Miss Mini...what you fail to see is that our Dinar and our country are linked. And you are obviously a liberal and I am sure it is tough facing some reality and having to listen to real people complain about what is happening to our beloved country. Obama (Barry) (BTW is this the first president who changed their name? and why do you change your name unless you are in the entertainment business?) Taxation is killing the economy and if Obama gets his Cap and Trade (Energy tax) passed you can bet we are headed for a double dip recession.

Back to the Dinar, it is highly likely we will be handing over 35% + to the government when the RV happens. This could go up if Obama gets his way....thats why so many bring it up on the forum. Anything and everything that affects our investment is discussed here....this will be the most significant hit to your future financial situation after how well you do when you convert your Dinar to USD and the spread you get. (Some banks are expected to take a 10% to 18% spread, Watch OUT!).

I hope all my fellow patriots are doing there part to make a difference where it really counts, not just here in the forum, but with all the conservatives who are running this November to turn the country around and make O a lame duck for his last two years and so we can do some triage on our country.

i could not have said it better my self -

sorry, politics and money are on the same line they go together-the politicians are trying to take it away from us!! funny how liberals always have that same reaction

[RICK C]

I never said any politician was great. Please re-read my post. I simply want to talk about dinars, not politics. If you ain't talking money, don't talk to me!

what do you call TAX'S .Your DINARS will sure PAY A LOT MORE IN TAX'S NOW. AND THAT'S MONEY no matter how you spell it.

[mark_mich266]

Welcome, Mofo! President Barry Sotero - has a better ring than Barack Obama! Has anyone taken a look to see how much foreign aid has been shoveled towards Indonesia since he took office? Hmmm - just wondering???

[Miss Mini]

You people still don't get it. I don't care if you are conservative or liberal. I don't care what your political views are in the least and mine don't matter either. What I DO care about and what I come to this site for is news about the Iraqi dinar. It would be nice if you could keep the site to the purpose for which it is intended. It is called "Dinar Vets" not "Are You a Conservative or a Liberal". I simply don't want to have to weed through all the partisan crap to get to what I really came for. OK so, the Obama administration is going to tax the hell out of me when I finally do get my money from revalue. Can I get the money first???? Then we can discuss it. There really should be a section just for you guys to pump your political agenda so you will not be in the way of those of us who just want dinar news. At least title your posts appropriately so that those of us who do not want to read your dribble can avoid clicking on it.

[Deathmonkey]

You people still don't get it. I don't care if you are conservative or liberal. I don't care what your political views are in the least and mine don't matter either. What I DO care about and what I come to this site for is news about the Iraqi dinar. It would be nice if you could keep the site to the purpose for which it is intended. It is called "Dinar Vets" not "Are You a Conservative or a Liberal". I simply don't want to have to weed through all the partisan crap to get to what I really came for. OK so, the Obama administration is going to tax the hell out of me when I finally do get my money from revalue. Can I get the money first???? Then we can discuss it. There really should be a section just for you guys to pump your political agenda so you will not be in the way of those of us who just want dinar news. At least title your posts appropriately so that those of us who do not want to read your dribble can avoid clicking on it.

I understand what you are saying. However, I would just drop from this topic and wait for a new one to start. Don't get discouraged about this site because there is useful news that gets posted every day.

[nowhammies]

Obama is a lackey for Soros.

Finally somebody who really gets it....

[oilman80]

You people still don't get it. I don't care if you are conservative or liberal. I don't care what your political views are in the least and mine don't matter either. What I DO care about and what I come to this site for is news about the Iraqi dinar. It would be nice if you could keep the site to the purpose for which it is intended. It is called "Dinar Vets" not "Are You a Conservative or a Liberal". I simply don't want to have to weed through all the partisan crap to get to what I really came for. OK so, the Obama administration is going to tax the hell out of me when I finally do get my money from revalue. Can I get the money first???? Then we can discuss it. There really should be a section just for you guys to pump your political agenda so you will not be in the way of those of us who just want dinar news. At least title your posts appropriately so that those of us who do not want to read your dribble can avoid clicking on it.

Hey, what do you mean by "YOU PEOPLE"? Man that sounds racial.