SgtFuryUSCZ Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 ***/// Ho'bummer granting his "green" cronies immunity from Federal prosecution for murdering THOUSANDS of American Eagles a year... That's right, folks.... in yet another one of his desperate attempts to protect what he deems a win for his epic fail 'legacy', he's promised protection to the Wind Farm Companies responsible for the mass slaughter of our National Symbol. The facts are in and these wind farms are NOT the great answer not our energy woes. They are merely another 'angle' by the lying left to re-distribute wealth to their cronies at great expense to US taxpayers, not to mention to the great peril of our American Eagles. Oh, yuh, he says he's a great nature-lover and stole thousands of acres of Americans' lands and water ways under the guise of it all needing protection.... SO WHAT ABOUT OUR EAGLES you a-hole...? Let them be murdered so your greedy pals can keep getting richer...? The 'laws' he's MANUFACTURED to protect his GREEDY GREEN PALS are set to go into effect just days before he leaves office. Hey, President Trump -- before ho'bummer-lack-o-care and The Wall, looks like you've got serious business with The American Eagles to do first ! Don't let this go on one more day ! All those loser wind farms are only functioning because of MASSIVE Federal monies --- CUT THEM OFF NOW ! And SHUT THEM DOWN ! . . . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Not to mention massive deforestation, Mr. President.....You allowing the massive destruction of our national symbol's natural habitat is not cool. If you want to continue with these massive wind farms....do it in the parts of the nation where Bald Eagles are a rarity. They seem to work just fine here in Ohio. GO RV, then BV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Who is putting money in whose coffers? And our new Secretary of State is from Exxon? Sorry folks. it's the same 'ol same 'ol. We are all going to get bent over again. JMHO B/A The Surprising Truth About Oil and Gas Tax Breaks They might claim otherwise, but oil and gas companies get a really sweet deal from taxpayers. By Ryan Alexander | Contributor Aug. 6, 2014, at 10:05 a.m. The Surprising Truth About Oil and Gas Tax Breaks Tax rates going down, down, down. The Associated Press At Taxpayers for Common Sense, we recently analyzed the federal income taxes paid over the last five years by some of the largest U.S.-based oil and gas companies. What we found surprised us. We set out to document the federal tax rate of oil and gas industry leaders because we knew the claim made by the American Petroleum Institute – that the industry pays an income tax rate of 44.3 percent – is misleading. The claim is misleading because the institute uses it in the context of reforming the federal tax code, but the figure includes all foreign, state and local taxes, as well as federal. When we looked at the financial statements of 20 of the largest oil and gas companies, we found this group paid an average federal tax rate of 24 percent on its U.S. income. This was not surprising. It is no secret the federal tax code is riddled with broad exceptions and deductions allowing many industries to pay much less than the standard 35 percent corporate rate. In fact, one of the goals of tax reform is to lower the overall corporate rate by removing the system of distortive tax preferences that require companies to change their behavior in order to qualify. What was surprising, though, was the extent to which these companies were able to delay or defer the payment of the federal taxes they accrued. Most of the companies in our study deferred more than they actually paid. When the deferred taxes are subtracted from the amount these 20 companies owe, their average “current” tax rate drops to 11.7 percent. The independent oil and gas companies in the bottom half of our list, excluding the ones that recorded losses for the period, deferred almost all of the federal income taxes they accrued during the last five years, reporting an average current tax rate of just 3.7 percent. While there are a number of reasons a company may defer tax payments, the companies in our study reported their deferral was almost entirely from “plant, property and equipment.” These companies have spent more in recent years on tangible property (e.g. constructing drilling rigs), and have been able to deduct more from their taxable income as a result, dramatically lowering their federal tax bills. It’s worth noting too, that while the industry champions its investments as job creating, the taxpayers are, at the end of the day, lowering the companies’ cost of capital to make those investments. Deferral of taxes functions a lot like interest free loans – companies that get to defer taxes simply choose to use that money for something other than paying that tax obligation, instead putting the obligation off into the future. And, in turn, that deferral increases the size and cost of the federal debt. The industry and its supporters see this as a causal relationship between tax breaks and the oil industry’s decision of whether or not to invest in domestic oil production. Remove these favorable tax provisions, the argument goes, and these companies will move their business, and jobs, abroad. There are at least a couple of problems with this argument. First, prices and technology drive production decisions. The single biggest factor effecting the decisions of oil companies is the price of oil, which is determined by the world market. Oil prices remaining above $100 per barrel creates the incentive to drill. Coupled with this is the affordability of technology that allows companies to extract oil and gas from previously unattainable sources, like shale. This is what is driving domestic oil and gas production in recent years, not century-old tax breaks. Moreover, oil and gas companies don’t need government subsidies. Just the 20 companies in our study reported in excess of $175 billion in total deferred tax liabilities at the end of 2013. They do not pay any interest to the government on this amount, even if it takes 20 years to pay it. The oil and gas industry is one of the most profitable in the world – the five largest oil and gas companies reported more than $104 billion in profits last year – so it does not need special treatment in the tax code. A common refrain is that U.S. corporate taxes are the highest in the world, which is bad for our economy. One of the biggest roadblocks to reducing our corporate tax rate is resistance from powerful industries, like the oil gas industry, which get a special deal better than other corporate taxpayers because of a list of tax benefits, many unique to their industry. The oil and gas industry maintained their special deal even through the 1986 reform of the tax code, the last time it was overhauled. Let’s hope when Congress gets to comprehensive reform this time these outdated, special breaks for the profitable oil and gas industry are left on the chopping block. http://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/2014/08/06/the-surprising-truth-about-oil-and-gas-company-corporate-tax-rates 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtFuryUSCZ Posted December 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) ***/// We're all aware of the gross inconsistencies in Federal hand-outs and bail-outs at our expense, BA, but this is about our American Bald and Golden Eagles... not to mention al the other birds being murdered. Deciding to use this thread as a platform for your disdain for a Trump appointee is not warranted here... YOU DON'T KOW THAT MAN'S HEART, SO WHY DO YOU LAY BLAME AT HIS FEET...? Your apparent paranoia and disgust with the incoming administration should be put on the back burner until they have a chance to roll up their sleeves and get to work putting the nation the filthy liberals destroyed back together. All those big oil companies you revile so much will all get theirs in due time, BUT WE'RE CONCERNED HERE ABOUT THESE EAGLES and the fact that a traitorous left-wing terrorist-loving, thief and LIAR-IN-CHIEF notorious for hating The USA is taking a horrendous parting shot at something we all hold sacred. HATES AMERICA, HATES FREEDOM, HATES OUR FLAG, HATES CHRISTIANITY, HATES US, period. YOU don't know the man you condemn here in your post, but we can sure condemn ho'bummer for everything he's said, done and represents by his own actions which clearly point to his cabal's agenda to destroy US and everything we represent ! And this giving a pass to his crony murderers is more proof he cares NOT about this Nation ! . . Edited December 15, 2016 by SgtFuryUSCZ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Oil and eagles don't mix... Do you believe big oil cares about eagles? Seriously http://phys.org/news/2011-02-band-dead-eagle-alaska-oldest.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Sorry wrong link http://indianapublicmedia.org/amomentofscience/oil-spills-naturally/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxinjersey Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, bostonangler said: Sorry wrong link http://indianapublicmedia.org/amomentofscience/oil-spills-naturally/ Ok... natural oil spills. How is big oil responsible for that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtFuryUSCZ Posted December 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 ***/// ... and if "big oil" is murdering Eagles, too, don't you think THEY should be held responsible and made to pay as well...? Doesn't make you angry that ho'bummer is giving a pass to anyone who murders our National Bird that so many Americans fought so hard to bring back from the brink of complete extinction... ? Sounds like you're SO busy spewing your hate for the incoming administration, you forgot, or like ho'bummer, don't care about the Eagles, either... . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtFuryUSCZ Posted December 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 1 minute ago, Jaxinjersey said: Ok... natural oil spills. How is big oil responsible for that? ***/// Exactly. There are enough natural things going on threatening our Wildlife that we must do all we can to hold those responsible for acts of man against them accountable. Clean coal and fuel from good 'ol American oil doesn't kill THOUSANDS of birds a year. Wind farms are NOT the answer unless they can be designed to operate without being objects of murder. The price such as they are is far too high. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jaxinjersey said: Ok... natural oil spills. How is big oil responsible for that? Natural oil spill? You mean Valdez was natural? Or BP's Deep Horizon was natural? Surely you don't believe big oil cares about the environment? The same way wind farms are responsible for birds flying into the propellers. I guess we need to ground airplanes too. Sarge I really doubt Obama is out to kill the wild kingdom. B/A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said: ***/// Exactly. There are enough natural things going on threatening our Wildlife that we must do all we can to hold those responsible for acts of man against them accountable. Clean coal and fuel from good 'ol American oil doesn't kill THOUSANDS of birds a year. Wind farms are NOT the answer unless they can be designed to operate without being objects of murder. The price such as they are is far too high. . Nope, clean coal is killing you. How about a nuke in your backyard? Are you cool with having a tower keeping you warm at night. Edited December 15, 2016 by bostonangler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxinjersey Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 1 minute ago, bostonangler said: Natural oil spill? You mean Valdez was natural? Or BP's Deep Horizon was natural? Surely you don't believe big oil cares about the environment? The same way wind farms are responsible for birds flying into the propellers. I guess we need to ground airplanes too. Sarge I really doubt Obama is out to kill the wild kingdom. B/A The article you posted was about natural oil spills. Your first link was wrong, and then this one. Just looking for honest premise/narrative... thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtFuryUSCZ Posted December 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 ****/// One of us proudly served out one of the harshest assignments in our US Military deep in a silo so you could still be here enjoying all this freedom to try to defend your lefty agenda. That's right, that giant bullet and me -- WE protected you. Not a day went by we didn't know why we were doing it, either. You should use your GOD-GIVEN powers of an American to do good. Such a waste to see you carry on and rage against the machine you built and now have buyer's remorse over.... . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jaxinjersey said: The article you posted was about natural oil spills. Your first link was wrong, and then this one. Just looking for honest premise/narrative... thanks. Sorry, I'm on my phone without my reading glasses... It's tough getting old!!! LOL https://www.fws.gov/home/dhoilspill/pdfs/dhjicfwsoilimpactswildlifefactsheet.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 1 minute ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said: ****/// One of us proudly served out one of the harshest assignments in our US Military deep in a silo so you could still be here enjoying all this freedom to try to defend your lefty agenda. That's right, that giant bullet and me -- WE protected you. Not a day went by we didn't know why we were doing it, either. You should use your GOD-GIVEN powers of an American to do good. Such a waste to see you carry on and rage against the machine you built and now have buyer's remorse over.... . You sound like a disgruntled potato peeler to me. So put on your granny panties and put away your hate. It is killing you on the inside. And don't ever assume I didn't serve my country. Your insults are sickening and demonstrate a very dark persona. B/A 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxinjersey Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Just now, bostonangler said: Sorry, I'm on my phone without my reading glasses... It's tough getting old!!! LOL https://www.fws.gov/home/dhoilspill/pdfs/dhjicfwsoilimpactswildlifefactsheet.pdf Personally then, I would suggest refraining from posting until I had my full clarity on the context... pretty important, dontcha think?!! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said: ****/// One of us proudly served out one of the harshest assignments in our US Military deep in a silo so you could still be here enjoying all this freedom to try to defend your lefty agenda. That's right, that giant bullet and me -- WE protected you. Not a day went by we didn't know why we were doing it, either. You should use your GOD-GIVEN powers of an American to do good. Such a waste to see you carry on and rage against the machine you built and now have buyer's remorse over.... If you expect every American to think like you because you served to protect their freedoms.....then you truly have no idea why you served. GO RV, then BV 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 5 minutes ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said: ****/// One of us proudly served out one of the harshest assignments in our US Military deep in a silo so you could still be here enjoying all this freedom to try to defend your lefty agenda. That's right, that giant bullet and me -- WE protected you. Not a day went by we didn't know why we were doing it, either. You should use your GOD-GIVEN powers of an American to do good. Such a waste to see you carry on and rage against the machine you built and now have buyer's remorse over.... . It's laughable you use God like a tool. I'm willing to bet God uses you as a poster child for what we should never be. B/A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jaxinjersey said: Personally then, I would suggest refraining from posting until I had my full clarity on the context... pretty important, dontcha think?!! LOL Thanx Jax... yup important stuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtFuryUSCZ Posted December 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 ***/// You should both be ashamed of yourselves for trying to demean our Service and our God. But neither you, BA, nor you, SHABS, apparently are capable of it as you're both perfect examples of what is wrong with this Country after the assault by the left. Your attacks on us here today are both despicable and unwarranted. CHECK YOURSELVES. You've both demeaned only yourselves. . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 1 minute ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said: ***/// You should both be ashamed of yourselves for trying to demean our Service and our God. But neither you, BA, nor you, SHABS, apparently are capable of it as you're both perfect examples of what is wrong with this Country after the assault by the left. Your attacks on us here today are both despicable and unwarranted. CHECK YOURSELVES. You've both demeaned only yourselves. . You're the one that said it.....You should be an adult and apologize for it, or own it. Sgt. Shabs out! GO RV, then BV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtFuryUSCZ Posted December 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 ***/// Said what -- that we served to protect your and BA's right to act like a coupla tools.... No apology -- it's true. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 21 minutes ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said: ***/// Said what -- that we served to protect your and BA's right to act like a coupla tools.... No apology -- it's true. . And I served so uneducated, misguided and gullible people have the right to be wrong and shout it out. Just don't do it in a theatre. B/A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtFuryUSCZ Posted December 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 ***/// Wow.... ya'll are just a mess, aren't ya... Guess it takes all kinds, look how happy you two are covering each other's backs for no good reason ========> 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickgold Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Even our Eagles, without hindering their habitat deserves to be free!!!! Gals understand completely where you are coming from. It's a shame that a couple of members want to detour off course on this important topic. What's so hard about starting your own topic, why take away from one members story...WHY!!! Thanks for sharing Gals, something that we need to be aware of, its not just our Eagles, because when and what other issue will they take away from us!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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