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Russia Iran and Syria always seem to stick together

Now that the shittes control Iraq I would think Iraq will be part of that mess

Who ever decided to let Iraq have elections with majority rule had to if known who the majority was in Iraq beforehand

They knew what they were doing

Maybe it is part of a plan to get the Sunnis to fight the shittes

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/06/30/world/middleeast/iraq.html?_r=0&referrer=

Russian Jets And Experts Sent to Iraq

JUNE 29, 2014

BAGHDAD — Iraqi government officials said Sunday that Russian experts had arrived in Iraq to help the army get 12 new Russian warplanes into the fight against Sunni extremists, while the extremists declared their leader the caliph, or absolute ruler, of all jihadi organizations worldwide.

The Russian move was at least an implicit rebuke to the United States, which the Iraqis believe has been too slow to supply American F-16s and attack helicopters — although the United States is now in the process of providing both.

“In the coming three or four days the aircraft will be in service to support our forces in the fight” against the insurgents of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, said Gen. Anwar Hama Ameen, the commander of the Iraqi Air Force, referring to five SU-25 aircraft that were flown into Iraq aboard Russian cargo planes Saturday night, and two more expected later Sunday.

Also on Sunday, the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria released a 34-minute audio recording of a speech by its official spokesman, Abu Muhammad al-Adnani, who said that the insurgency’s leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, was now the world’s caliph and as such had declared all other jihadi organizations void and under his direct control, according to the SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors extremists’ online presence.

The audio speech was released on an ISIS-linked Twitter feed, the group said.

ISIS’ bombastic announcement of its hegemony over the world’s Islamic extremists was little more than a propaganda ploy, but it was indicative of its growing ambitions.

ISIS, originally formed from the broken remnants of Al Qaeda in Iraq, split with Al Qaeda last year when that group’s leaders ordered it to leave Syria.

Since then, ISIS has battled with Qaeda-linked jihadis in Syria, as well as with non-extremist rebel forces there, for control of the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad of Syria.

Soldiers unloading an SU-25, a ground-attack fighter jet, in Baghdad on Sunday.

REUTERS

The ISIS announcement also revealed Mr. Baghdadi’s alleged real name — Ibrahim Ibn Awwad Ibn Ibrahim Ali Ibn Muhammad al-Badri al-Hashimi al-Husayni al-Qurashi — and said he would be known as Caliph Ibrahim for short.

A caliphate is a Muslim empire that in theory encompasses all Muslims worldwide, and is a term used to describe empires like that of the Ottomans in Turkey in the 15th to 20th centuries, as well as those that did rule much of the civilized world in the early days of Islam.

In present-day Baghdad, the Iraqi Air Force commander, General Ameen, said that Russian military experts had arrived to help set up the new SU-25 warplanes, but that they would stay only a short time. The last five Russian aircraft would arrive by Monday, he said.

Last week, President Obama ordered 300 American military advisers into the country, and the Iranians have reportedly sent advisers from their Republican Guards’ Quds Force.

At least three United States Special Forces teams are said to have been deployed north of Baghdad in recent days, tasked with carrying out a survey of Iraqi forces to determine their condition and needs.

This was the first report of Russian military aides in the country, although General Ameen said they were experts, not advisers.

American officials, citing intelligence reports, have said that Iran has been sending surveillance drones over Iraq as well as supplying the government with military equipment and support.

On Thursday, Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki said the Iraqis, in an arrangement with the Russian Ministry of Defense, had ordered a dozen SU-25s, a ground-attack fighter jet useful for close air support operations.

“They are coming very fast,” General Ameen said in a telephone interview, “because we need them in this conflict against the terrorists as soon as possible.” He said the Russians would leave within around three days after the aircraft were ready for service.

The Iraqi military used SU-25 jets extensively during the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s, but they have not been used in Iraq since 2002 or earlier.

Still, General Ameen said they would soon see action again. “We have pilots who have long experience in this plane and of course we have the help of the Russian friends and the experts who came with these aircraft to prepare them,” he said. “This will produce a very strong punishment against the terrorists in the coming days.”

Sunni jihadi fighters were reported on Sunday to have stalled a government offensive to retake the central Iraqi city of Tikrit. Insurgents had apparently regained control of key government buildings in the center of Tikrit, according to witnesses who reported seeing the black flag of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, or ISIS, flying over many important buildings.

The day before, Iraqi flags had been hoisted on many of them, as Iraqi troops carried out a ground assault after a three-daylong operation intended to take the city and roll back the insurgents’ advance toward Baghdad.

Iraqi forces carried out repeated airstrikes, mostly using helicopters, on insurgent targets throughout the city on Sunday for the fourth day in a row, witnesses said.

The Iraqi Army remained in control of roads leading into Tikrit — Saddam Hussein’s birthplace and a longtime stronghold of Sunni hard-liners, about 100 miles north of Baghdad — as well as the campus of Salahuddin University in Tikrit and a military base, Camp Speicher, on the outskirts of the city.

The military’s advance, supported by tanks and helicopter gunships, was hampered by a large number of bombs planted along the roads, a common tactic of the insurgents.

According to a security official in Tikrit, speaking on the condition of anonymity as a matter of government policy, ISIS fighters had kidnapped six relatives of Maj. Gen. Jumaa al-Jabouri, deputy commander of Iraqi military operations in Salahuddin Province, holding them hostage and destroying their homes in the eastern part of the city.

What appeared to be a jumbo Russian transport aircraft, from which the SU-25 warplanes were unloaded, was shown Saturday night on Iraqiya, the state television network, at what was believed to be an air base in Taji, a short distance north of Baghdad.

The new aircraft “will increase and support the strength and capability of the Iraqi air forces to eliminate terrorism,” a statement issued by the Iraqi Ministry of Defense said.

The Iraqis have sought to buy American F-16s and Apache helicopter gunships. The sale of the Apaches had been delayed by concerns in Congress, which feared Mr. Maliki would use them to suppress his political opponents, but the United States has now agreed to provide them.

The first two F-16s are to expected to be delivered in September or October, and the first six Apaches will arrive this fall as part of a lease. But it will take months to train the Apache pilots.

The Iraqi Air Force currently has only two propeller-driven Cessna aircraft equipped to fire guided Hellfire missiles, which the Iraqis ran out of last week. Over the past three days, 75 new Hellfires were delivered to Iraq by the American government.

The air force also had about 180 helicopters, many of them gunships, but six of those were destroyed in the insurgents’ attack on Mosul, and another 60 were damaged.

There have also been unconfirmed reports that Iran was prepared to return some of the Iraqi warplanes that Saddam Hussein flew to Iran in 1991 to escape American destruction. Those included 24 French F1 Mirage fighters and 80 Russian jets.

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So who is everyone dealing with in Iraq ?

The central govts ?

That's the way it looks to me

The Sunnis say they have two direct supply routes from Syria to central and northern Iraq

But how long will supply's last coming from Syria

Do they have manufacturing facilities in Syria ?

It won't be long before the terrorists simply run out unless this is planned to arm both sides for reasons we won't talk about

since Obama sits back and does not much of anything--glad the russians came in to help

I hear ya. This is a mess over there but its looking like Iraq is getting spoon fed now

It takes time to move jets and helicopters

And explosives

When Iraq gets tooled up I think they are not going to be taking prisoners

Who ever is able to escape is going to be the only survivors

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"The Russian move was at least an implicit rebuke to the United States, which the Iraqis believe has been too slow to supply American F-16s and attack helicopters — although the United States is now in the process of providing both."


Way to go Obama administration and Congress, what a bunch of screw-ups!
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BAGHDAD - ((eighth day))

According to senior military source, Sunday, the arrival of five Russian fighter jets from Sukhoi Su-25, landed at the airport in Taji military.


The source said in a statement to the Agency ((eighth day)), "The five aircraft Sukhoi Su-25 within the first meal, and arrived at the airport Taji military," noting that "five aircraft was received by the leaders of senior military, including General Qanbar" .


The source added that the military "aircraft landed Airport Taji, about eleven at night," he said, adding that "a batch of those planes out package consisting of 10 aircraft". (AA)

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"The Russian move was at least an implicit rebuke to the United States, which the Iraqis believe has been too slow to supply American F-16s and attack helicopters — although the United States is now in the process of providing both."

Way to go Obama administration and Congress, what a bunch of screw-ups!

Wm13

Not to play devils advocate here, but I had read a piece a few days ago that indicated one of the largest Air Bases near Baghdad was under attack and possibly overrun?

I also remember reading somewhere that this was, in fact, the base to which the F-16's were to be delivered?

Is it possible that there was a reason the F-16 delivery has been delayed? Sure wouldn't want that kind of technology falling into enemy hands.

Dunno... Just sayin'

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Not to play devils advocate here, but I had read a piece a few days ago that indicated one of the largest Air Bases near Baghdad was under attack and possibly overrun?

I also remember reading somewhere that this was, in fact, the base to which the F-16's were to be delivered?

Is it possible that there was a reason the F-16 delivery has been delayed? Sure wouldn't want that kind of technology falling into enemy hands.

Dunno... Just sayin'

Don't know either Rick, I guess maybe time will tell but this deal was supposed to be done many months before the ISIS started all this crap. (or at least reported on) Maybe if they had the equipment before this they could have "nipped it in the bud". Pilots were being trained over here over a year ago.

Besides, if the base was under attack all you have to do is fly them to a different base.

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