Why I believe it will RV @ $1 to $1

[MyLadiesDaddy]

The sequester was all political drama. Cuts must be made. This whole argument that Obama is trying to ruin America is ridiculous. You do know how government works right? Did you pay attention in civics class? There's a thing called the house and senate that things go thru. We have the worst congress in HISTORY. if Obama is such a tyrant then why can nothing get done in congress?

Honestly there's really no point in this argument...when people bring up Christian nation and muslim stuff I can't have a serious discussion. I can tell you get all your information from severely conservative websites or media only. Why people pick party lines is beyond me? You're setting yourself up for embarrassment when you disregard facts and listen to nut jobs.

Also, fox news is the least informative "news" outlet out there. There's been 7 different studies done and they are the worst. They always have the least informed viewers.

Don't ignore facts. Obama has lowered our DEFECIT. Facts. Did you ignore the posts above or are you covering your eyes because it goes against your beliefs.

 

Probably because hes too busy running around the country crying the sky is falling.

 

Also because he refuses to talk to congress if they wont give him everything he wants.

 

Oh and guess what that is EXACTLY the way our founding fathers meant it to be. It's called

 

checks and balance's. 

 

As far as Fox News making you dumber, well you might be rite. Maybe I should

 

watch MSNBC and learn all about that guy with a tingle up his leg. Now that's smarter.      

 

We can banter on like this all day and you will never get me to be a liberal nor I you a 

 

​ conservative. What will really  anger you is that you also wont make me angry, which 

 

is what all libs attempt to do. Me I feel pity for people that are blinded by the devil, and 

 

only try to show them the love of God. Where you fit in that category I don't know, all I 

 

do know is that all people need to be loved unequivocally. Love that is not based on 

 

whether you agree with my political views, Love that is based on the example given

 

to all men through Jesus Christ. Love that is pure, honest, kind, giving, and hopeful that

 

in Christ we will have a better world to come.   

[dontlop]

there currency is inflated

i guess the united states currency is inflated too .. the 10,000 dollar bill still exists and is legal tender .. we dont use it ,, but when the iraqis  release small denominations of the dinar .. im sure the large notes will also become out of circulation...

[MyLadiesDaddy]

i guess the united states currency is inflated too .. the 10,000 dollar bill still exists and is legal tender .. we dont use it ,, but when the iraqis  release small denominations of the dinar .. im sure the large notes will also become out of circulation...

 

I fear that after the rv we might need to bring some of those back. You're correct China wont call 

 

our debt. It's not gonna help them and they do understand that. But believe you me anytime they want 

 

they can  dump all those dollars they hold on the market and we wont be able to do a thing about it. 

 

What do you think the result of that would do to America?

[boomer113189]

i guess the united states currency is inflated too .. the 10,000 dollar bill still exists and is legal tender .. we dont use it ,, but when the iraqis  release small denominations of the dinar .. im sure the large notes will also become out of circulation...

nobody uses these notes anymore there collectables

Edited March 2, 2013 by boomer113189

[dontlop]

I fear that after the rv we might need to bring some of those back. You're correct China wont call 

 

our debt. It's not gonna help them and they do understand that. But believe you me anytime they want 

 

they can  dump all those dollars they hold on the market and we wont be able to do a thing about it. 

 

What do you think the result of that would do to America?

well those dollars can be redeemed for goods and services any time they want .. if they want anything else they can go pound sand .. thats all our dollars are redeemable for .. one dollar is redeemable for one dollar . or goods and services .. i  hope they do cash them in .. our economy would boom while they spend them ..unless they can  find someone else to  accept them for goods and services .. and if they go into any othe markets besides the united states they will be paying a spread ..exchange fees ,,

Edited March 2, 2013 by dontlop

[MyLadiesDaddy]

It was worth far less actually.....at one point it was around 3500 to 1.....the point I was trying to make is that the value of the dinar didnt drop overnight....it was a matter of 10 years or so

Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/142702-why-i-believe-it-will-rv-1-to-1/page-4#ixzz2MPWRasQT

 

Been thinking about this and what I am referring to is that before we 

 

changed the currency it had some value. After we printed the NIQD that 

 

value, however small, was totally wiped out. 

well those dolars can be redeemed for goods and services any time they want .. if they want anything else they can go pound sand .. thats all our dollars are redeemable for .. one dollar is redeemable for one dollar . or gods and services .. i  hope they do cash them in .. our economy would boom while they spend them ..unless they can  find someone else to  accept them for goods and services .. and if they go into any othe markets besides the united states they will be paying a spread ..exchange fees ,,

 

Interesting, so you don't think that flooding the world market with trillions of 

 

dollars would collapse, or have a bad effect, on our economy? I am only a novice 

 

in this but it seems to me that if you do this then our dollars we now hold would

 

loose allot in value as to what it can purchase. And as of today they are declaring

 

war on currency.  

[dontlop]

It was worth far less actually.....at one point it was around 3500 to 1.....the point I was trying to make is that the value of the dinar didnt drop overnight....it was a matter of 10 years or so

Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/142702-why-i-believe-it-will-rv-1-to-1/page-4#ixzz2MPWRasQT

 

Been thinking about this and what I am referring to is that before we 

 

changed the currency it had some value. After we printed the NIQD that 

 

value, however small, was totally wiped out. 

 

Interesting, so you don't think that flooding the world market with trillions of 

 

dollars would collapse, or have a bad effect, on our economy? I am only a novice 

 

in this but it seems to me that if you do this then our dollars we now hold would

 

loose allot in value as to what it can purchase. And as of today they are declaring

 

war on currency.  

i think its been the plan all along .. they can only get final redemption in the united states for those dolars .. and final redemption is exchanged for goods and services ..  they can hold them in their reserves as long as they wish . but if all our local currency ends up in foriegn countrys reserves .. we have no choice but to print up more dollars . which devalues what they hoard ... we in turn get pay increases as our dollar devalues .. then when they come here to spend them after  we made our  adjustments .. they lose even more ... we set up this monetary system .. and we control it .. the imf headquarters is in washington dc ..lol

 

eventually they will all be wanting to spend their dollars here in the states .. we will tell them to get in line .. and how far back logged they will be on recieving their orders .... in the mean time the us economy rockets upwards and our dollar value skyrockets ..because our economy is booming and we are re investing those dollars for the next boom and bust cycle ..their all hanging on by a thread right now ..al they got to do is reach into their foriegn reserves and spend those dollars .. because its will sooon be all they have left .... i cant imagine 7 trillion dollars in orders for our goods and services .. heck we may have to sub out some of that to our allies .

[MyLadiesDaddy]

i think its been the plan all along .. they can only get final redemption in the united states for those dolars .. and final redemption is exchanged for goods and services ..  they can hold them in their reserves as long as they wish . but if all our local currency ends up in foriegn countrys reserves .. we have no choice but to print up more dollars . which devalues what they hoard ... we in turn get pay increases as our dollar devalues .. then when they come here to spend them after  we made our  adjustments .. they lose even more ... we set up this monetary system .. and we control it .. the imf headquarters is in washington dc ..lol

 

eventually they will all be wanting to spend their dollars here in the states .. we will tell them to get in line .. and how far back logged they will be on recieving their orders .... in the mean time the us economy rockets upwards and our dollar value skyrockets ..because our economy is booming and we are re investing those dollars for the next boom and bust cycle ..their all hanging on by a thread right now ..al they got to do is reach into their foriegn reserves and spend those dollars .. because its will sooon be all they have left .... i cant imagine 7 trillion dollars in orders for our goods and services .. heck we may have to sub out some of that to our allies .

 

I like your thinking and it seems that you are far more versed in economics 

 

than I. But one more question  for you. If Iraq were to rv at say $1.16 how would 

 

that affect the situation? Iraq has stated they want to be a reserve currency and 

 

they do have allot of support, what if most other nations decide to use the dinar

 

and not the dollar? Maybe I'm off here but would like to hear your thoughts.  

Also it has been my take all along that this was the plan too.

 

I have also thought that for a while after the rv then Obama will 

 

​be able to not only create his socialist society but finance it as well.

 

What you have just said would, to me, explain how he could do that.  

[boomer113189]

that must be another rumor going around saying that the dinar is going to be the global reserve currency.

[easyrider]

that must be another rumor going around saying that the dinar is going to be the global reserve currency.

They wil be a donor country and thats directly from the world bank and you and I know that they cannot achieve this with a rate of 1166.  As far as a world reserve currency down the road doesnt seem like a bad idea with what is happening around the world involving currencies right about now.  The U.S dollar and the euro will decrease and will continue until something is done.

[dontlop]

I like your thinking and it seems that you are far more versed in economics 

 

than I. But one more question  for you. If Iraq were to rv at say $1.16 how would 

 

that affect the situation? Iraq has stated they want to be a reserve currency and 

 

they do have allot of support, what if most other nations decide to use the dinar

 

and not the dollar? Maybe I'm off here but would like to hear your thoughts.  

Also it has been my take all along that this was the plan too.

 

I have also thought that for a while after the rv then Obama will 

 

​be able to not only create his socialist society but finance it as well.

 

What you have just said would, to me, explain how he could do that.  

i liked wingnuts  explaination in this topic ..they have been iusing the dollar for so long .. that it wont change anything if they switch to a one to one exchange . it wouldnt hurt the inflation at all .. captain wingnut hit that home to day with his explaination .. of a one to one exchange.. i cant explain it as good as he did ,,, but i like that ,, even one to one .. it would become a reserve currency if people use it as a reserve currency ..if the us  ended up with 500 billion in dinar reserves  and they wanted to exchange them for goods and services in iraq ...  what would they want to buy from iraq ?

 

oil right ...

 

 so they exchange the dinars in for dollars .. then  iraq turns around and puts those dollars right back into their foriegn reserves when they buy the oil ..lol. so iraq has those dinars in their reserves that they exchange for the dollars for the us to buy the oil  .. plus the dollars they get for the oil .when they buy the oil .. . its a plus  for iraqs reserves ..the united states would not buy that much oil in any one purchase so it would be spread out over a couple years

they do currency swaps . . they do trades .. theres all kinds of ways to exchange those dinars .. the govt only buys oil for its reserves .. but they can release those reserves any time they want and refill the national reserves ..

Edited March 2, 2013 by dontlop

[SnowGlobe7]

This is a great thread with lots of insite...personally I agree with some of both sides....but we just can not predict what they will do....all we can do is share our thoughts and keep those opinions and links coming.....this is great for anyone new to this as well!!

 

Thanks to all of you for taking the time to post ...very helpful and grounding.

 

   

[pudge]

It’s Official: Watching Fox Makes You Stupider

People who work at Fox News might like to think that they are despised by real journalists only because they are conservative and most journalists are liberal. Anyone who read the admiring obituaries of William F. Buckley Jr. in mainstream and liberal outlets would know that is nonsense. Journalists, both liberals and ones with no ideology in particular, are quite capable of respecting conservative pundits and reporters who deserve their respect.

But Fox does not. The reason is not because it holds a set of values that others may not share. And that is only partially because it claims to be “Fair and Balanced” when it is neither.

Rather, it is because it fails the fundamental test of journalism: are you informing your audience? According to a new study by Farleigh Dickinson University, Fox viewers are the least knowledgeable audience of any outlet, and they know even less about politics and current events than people who watch no news at all.

Respondents to the survey were able to answer correctly an average of 1.8 of 4 questions about international news and 1.6 out of 5 questions about domestic affairs. “Based on these results, people who don’t watch any news at all are expected to answer correctly on average 1.22 of the questions about domestic politics, just by guessing or relying on existing basic knowledge,” said Dan Cassino, the poll’s analyst.

“The study concludes that media sources have a significant impact on the number of questions that people were able to answer correctly,” wrote Cassino and his colleagues. “The largest effect is that of Fox News: all else being equal, someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer just 1.04 domestic questions correctly—a figure which is significantly worse than if they had reported watching no media at all. On the other hand, if they listened only to NPR, they would be expected to answer 1.51 questions correctly.”

This should come as no surprise if you follow Fox. Consider some recent history. Fox and Friends host Steve Doocy invented a quotation from President Obama completely out of thin air. He falsely claimed that Obama had said he and Michelle were not born with silver spoons in their mouths “unlike some people,” in reference to Mitt Romney’s privileged upbringing. In fact, Obama did not say “unlike some people” and he has been using the silver spoon line for years. Several other news outlets repeated Doocy’s assertion as fact and Doocy initially avoided correcting the record after it was revealed he was wrong. Eventually he admitted that he “seemed to misquote” Obama, instead of stating that he did, in fact, misquote him. And he did not apologize for the error.

When Fox isn’t inventing smears against Obama, it uncritically regurgitates corporate-funded lies about him. Consider a segment of Sean Hannity’s show from last week. He showed a TV commercial by Americans for Prosperity, a conservative group founded and funded by the Koch brothers, that attacks President Obama’s record on investing in renewable energy. Hannity and Frank Luntz praised its effectiveness, with Luntz saying, “It was fact-based, not assertions. You see the facts come up on the screen. There's specific numbers.”

The only problem is that the factual assertions are incorrect. The ad says that “80 percent of taxpayer dollars spent on green energy went to jobs in foreign countries.” But the article it cites as a source clearly states only that the money went to foreign firms. The bulk of American tax dollars spent on the subsidies, according to Politifact, went to American subsidiaries of the firms.

The ad goes on to offer specific examples: “$1.2 billion to a solar company that’s building a plant in Mexico. Half a billion to a car company that moved American jobs to Finland. And $39 million to build traffic lights in China. President Obama wasted $16 billion on risky investments.” I won’t bore you with all the details of how each of these claims is untrue; each has been labeled false or mostly false by Politifact or Factcheck.org and you can go to Media Matters for the full rundown. 

Hannity routinely takes Republican misinformation as the gospel truth. To choose just one particularly embarrassing example, he let Herman Cain’s spokesman Mark Block declare, absurdly, that a woman named Karen Kraushaar who accused Cain of sexual harassment was the mother of a Politico reporter named Josh Kraushaar. Hannity did not challenge either the veracity of this claim nor question why this “fact” would cast doubt on Politico’s thoroughly reported revelation that Cain has been repeatedly accused of sexual harassment. In fact, Josh Kraushaar had left Politico for National Journal over a year before the story even ran, and he is not related to Karen Kraushaar. It would have been easy for Hannity to check on these facts and correct Block’s assertion, but he did not. Here is what Josh wrote about it the next day:

Anybody with Internet access would, at the very least, been able to figure out that I haven't worked for Politico since June 2010—and have been working at National Journal since then. I even Tweeted the fact that I wasn't related to Karen Kraushaar earlier that evening before Hannity's show to clear up any potential confusion.

That didn't stop Block. When I heard what Block had said on Hannity's show, I immediately e-mailed him informing him of his mistake. I still haven't heard back.

This laziness, partisan hackery and lack of regard for basic accuracy is what separates Fox News from outlets that merely have opinions. And it is doing their audience a disservice. This Fairleigh Dickinson study is not the first to find that Fox News viewers are the most ill-informed of any news consumers. As of November 22, 2011, Think Progress had found seven studies showing Fox News’s viewers to be the worst informed of all news consumers. In a post about a report that had just come out in the International Journal of Press/Politics, by communication scholar Lauren Feldman of American University and colleagues which found that “Fox News viewing manifests a significant, negative association with global warming acceptance,” Chris Mooney cited six previous studies with similar findings.

I identified 6 separate studies showing Fox News viewers to be the most misinformed, and in a right wing direction—studies on global warming, health care, health care a second time, the Ground Zero mosque, the Iraq war, and the 2010 election.

I also asked if anyone was aware of any counterevidence, and none was forthcoming. There might very well be a survey out there showing that Fox viewers aren’t [emphasis in original] the most misinformed cable news consumers on some topic (presumably it would be a topic where Democrats have some sort of ideological blind spot), but I haven’t seen it. And I have looked.

In the last year, since Fox News fired Glenn Beck and has sought to line up behind more establishment Republican candidates such as Mitt Romney, the new conventional wisdom has been that Fox is tacking back to the center. As a purely strategic move within the Republican party, that may be true. But, unfortunately, this has not been correlated with any improvement in the quality or independence of its journalism. 

 

 

You've got to be kidding me.  Oh where to begin?  It's tough dealing with delusional lefties. Fox news is a cancer?  Well, I would say MSNBC and its parent NBC along with CBS and sometimes ABC are cancers that need to be cut out but since no one watches them there is no cancer.  The reason no one watches is that it's hyper-leftist with zero objectivity.  Are you saying we should get our dose of reality from pin-heads like Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow, Ed Schulz and Lawrence O'Donnell? Are you saying the mainstream press is not in bed with Obama when they admit they are?  NBC has been caught red-handed three times purposely editing tape to disparage conservatives and you claim they are objective and pass the 'fundamental test of journalism?  THEY ARE ALL HACKS!!!

 

If it weren't for Fox news we wouldn't know about Benghazi other than the fact it was started by a movie.  Still, some leftists believe it.

 

We wouldn't know about the leftist Acorn org. telling people it was alright to prositiute young teenagers. 

 

We wouldn't know that the Obama Whitehouse is selling access to the President. 

 

We wouldn't know about Obama's relationship with Ayers, Wright and Salinsky but we would sure know about John Hagee's support of John McCain and Trump's admiration for Romney.

 

You wouldn't know that sequestor was Obama's idea and that the Republicans already caved on tax increases the last go around but are now somehow obstructionists for not caving in again and accepting new tax increases to avoid sequestor while being promised 'future' spending cuts that everyone knows will never happen with this President or any Democrat.  Hell, Reagan is still waiting for his spending cuts.

 

A partial list of the press you consider impartial:

 

 

ABC, NBS and CBS took over two weeks to report Climategate scandal.

 

Sept 10,  Acorn caught giving advice on how to run a prostitution ring and underage girl trafficking.  No one reports it but Fox.  But CNN reports on a California state conservative caught on tape talking in poor taste.

 

White House caught urging the NEA to further its agenda on audiotape.  If this had happened under Bush?  God help us and front page news

 

State run media has no use for Cindy Sheehan who was protesting Bush for the war in Iraq now that Obama is in office.

 

60 stories about limbaugh’s comments concerning Fluke,  only 1 about Ed Schulz calling laura Ingram a ****. 

 

No press about the Black Panther scandal at polls.  Nothing of Maxine Waters putting in a hiring quota for minorities in the financial reform bill

 

Mainstream media reported FOX said People would go to jail when not buying health insurance.  Didn’t happen

 

1 tea party member says something and the media paints the whole movement with the same brush.  Obama surrounds himself with leftist radicals yet the press says he is not one of them?

 

Reporter from CNN says everyone he interviewed was happy about Obama’s take on the Egyptian crises when actual footage showed nobody was or didn’t know who Obama was

 

MSNBC did not show the signs comparing Wisc governor to Hitler, Mubara and signs  putting a target on his face.

 

Liberal pundits say puclicly they want Clarence Thomas to die, and calling Juan Williams a porch monkey. No outcry at all from the NAACP. Tom Hanks uses a black face in an Ad.  No conservative would be allowed to do that.

 

$10,000 bounty on George Zimmerman by black panthers for shooting Martin.  No press coverage.  Imagine a bounty on a black man by white supremists.  Zimmerman is a white Hispanic.

 

A day after Obama announces support for *** marriage the Washington Post goes after Romney with a story about him bullying a teenager in High School.  The Post indicated he might’ve been ***.  Romney says they didn’t know anything about that in those days.  While nothing is made of Obama shoving a girl in High school while smoking dope and snorting cocaine

 

Imagine the skewering Bush would get if it was found out about white house e-mails to identify protestors.  Nothing about it in the press when Obama does it.

 

No coverage of the tea party at D.C.  Hundreds of thousands there.  A few liberal protesters garner huge coverage.

 

State approved media puts blame on Iraq war for Fort Hood massacre.  Not on Hasan who is muslim

 

Biden remarks about putting blacks back in chains.  Said Obama was ‘clean’. Clinton told Ted Kennedy “back in the day Obama would be serving us coffee”.   Reid said Obama didn’t speak with a black dialect.  Blatantly racist but all get a pass.  Yet Romney when saying Obama should take his negative campaigning back to Chicago gets accused of racism.

 

 

 

Have you had enough or shall I continue?   It is ignorant of you to bring up Hannity.  He does not claim to be objective.  He is a conservative on an opinion show just like the leftists on MSNBC.  I don't care what the State-approved media's opinion is.  Just don't claim you are objective when you are not.  There is no fundamental journalism anymore EXCEPT on FOX.

 

Even though we know Greta and O'Reilly are conservative on their own opinion shows they constantly call out conservatives when the situation calls for it and the FOX Networks general news reporting up until 8pm eastern time is very objective and always includes the news that the mainstream press leaves out on purpose.   The same cannot be said of any of the networks as they always cast the Obama in a favorable light and always dumped on President Bush.  I mean this Drone program is a perfect example.  The press will not condemn Obama for accelerating a program that Bush would get impeached over.

 

As O'Reilly would say,  "Wise up, cause you're acting like a pinhead".

[Flatbush Zombies]

You've got to be kidding me.  Oh where to begin?  It's tough dealing with delusional lefties. Fox news is a cancer?  Well, I would say MSNBC and its parent NBC along with CBS and sometimes ABC are cancers that need to be cut out but since no one watches them there is no cancer.  The reason no one watches is that it's hyper-leftist with zero objectivity.  Are you saying we should get our dose of reality from pin-heads like Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow, Ed Schulz and Lawrence O'Donnell? Are you saying the mainstream press is not in bed with Obama when they admit they are?  NBC has been caught red-handed three times purposely editing tape to disparage conservatives and you claim they are objective and pass the 'fundamental test of journalism?  THEY ARE ALL HACKS!!!

 

If it weren't for Fox news we wouldn't know about Benghazi other than the fact it was started by a movie.  Still, some leftists believe it.

 

We wouldn't know about the leftist Acorn org. telling people it was alright to prositiute young teenagers. 

 

We wouldn't know that the Obama Whitehouse is selling access to the President. 

 

We wouldn't know about Obama's relationship with Ayers, Wright and Salinsky but we would sure know about John Hagee's support of John McCain and Trump's admiration for Romney.

 

You wouldn't know that sequestor was Obama's idea and that the Republicans already caved on tax increases the last go around but are now somehow obstructionists for not caving in again and accepting new tax increases to avoid sequestor while being promised 'future' spending cuts that everyone knows will never happen with this President or any Democrat.  Hell, Reagan is still waiting for his spending cuts.

 

A partial list of the press you consider impartial:

 

 

ABC, NBS and CBS took over two weeks to report Climategate scandal.

 

Sept 10,  Acorn caught giving advice on how to run a prostitution ring and underage girl trafficking.  No one reports it but Fox.  But CNN reports on a California state conservative caught on tape talking in poor taste.

 

White House caught urging the NEA to further its agenda on audiotape.  If this had happened under Bush?  God help us and front page news

 

State run media has no use for Cindy Sheehan who was protesting Bush for the war in Iraq now that Obama is in office.

 

60 stories about limbaugh’s comments concerning Fluke,  only 1 about Ed Schulz calling laura Ingram a ****. 

 

No press about the Black Panther scandal at polls.  Nothing of Maxine Waters putting in a hiring quota for minorities in the financial reform bill

 

Mainstream media reported FOX said People would go to jail when not buying health insurance.  Didn’t happen

 

1 tea party member says something and the media paints the whole movement with the same brush.  Obama surrounds himself with leftist radicals yet the press says he is not one of them?

 

Reporter from CNN says everyone he interviewed was happy about Obama’s take on the Egyptian crises when actual footage showed nobody was or didn’t know who Obama was

 

MSNBC did not show the signs comparing Wisc governor to Hitler, Mubara and signs  putting a target on his face.

 

Liberal pundits say puclicly they want Clarence Thomas to die, and calling Juan Williams a porch monkey. No outcry at all from the NAACP. Tom Hanks uses a black face in an Ad.  No conservative would be allowed to do that.

 

$10,000 bounty on George Zimmerman by black panthers for shooting Martin.  No press coverage.  Imagine a bounty on a black man by white supremists.  Zimmerman is a white Hispanic.

 

A day after Obama announces support for *** marriage the Washington Post goes after Romney with a story about him bullying a teenager in High School.  The Post indicated he might’ve been ***.  Romney says they didn’t know anything about that in those days.  While nothing is made of Obama shoving a girl in High school while smoking dope and snorting cocaine

 

Imagine the skewering Bush would get if it was found out about white house e-mails to identify protestors.  Nothing about it in the press when Obama does it.

 

No coverage of the tea party at D.C.  Hundreds of thousands there.  A few liberal protesters garner huge coverage.

 

State approved media puts blame on Iraq war for Fort Hood massacre.  Not on Hasan who is muslim

 

Biden remarks about putting blacks back in chains.  Said Obama was ‘clean’. Clinton told Ted Kennedy “back in the day Obama would be serving us coffee”.   Reid said Obama didn’t speak with a black dialect.  Blatantly racist but all get a pass.  Yet Romney when saying Obama should take his negative campaigning back to Chicago gets accused of racism.

 

 

 

Have you had enough or shall I continue?   It is ignorant of you to bring up Hannity.  He does not claim to be objective.  He is a conservative on an opinion show just like the leftists on MSNBC.  I don't care what the State-approved media's opinion is.  Just don't claim you are objective when you are not.  There is no fundamental journalism anymore EXCEPT on FOX.

 

Even though we know Greta and O'Reilly are conservative on their own opinion shows they constantly call out conservatives when the situation calls for it and the FOX Networks general news reporting up until 8pm eastern time is very objective and always includes the news that the mainstream press leaves out on purpose.   The same cannot be said of any of the networks as they always cast the Obama in a favorable light and always dumped on President Bush.  I mean this Drone program is a perfect example.  The press will not condemn Obama for accelerating a program that Bush would get impeached over.

 

As O'Reilly would say,  "Wise up, cause you're acting like a pinhead".

LMAO! You clearly ignored what I said above. All televised media is a JOKE and Fox is the ring leader. You wasted a lot of time typing this out because I don't watch MSNBC or CNN. END OF DISCUSSION.

By the way, republicans after the election were blaming fox news and said that people should not listen to them. Yes, fox news, the drudge report, rush, and beck are cancers to society and sell a product....IT'S CALLED FEAR! All MSM is a joke but Fox takes the cake.

[Bunk]

This is what fox does to msnbc every day ...

[Flatbush Zombies]

I don't pick party lines because I'm not a closed minded individual. I have views that are conservative, I have views that are liberal, I have moderate views and progressive views. If you pick one side and ignore all other possibilities then you're setting yourself up for ignorance.

[pudge]

LMAO! You clearly ignored what I said above. All televised media is a JOKE and Fox is the ring leader. You wasted a lot of time typing this out because I don't watch MSNBC or CNN. END OF DISCUSSION.

 

 

NO, you did not.  You blasted FOX almost exclusively.  You know if it wasn't for FOX and talk radio there would be no objectivety whatsoever because of the 86% liberals who dominate Media, Hollywood and our Academics. END OF DISCUSSION!!

[dontlop]

progressive views ..lol. that just means a liberal one step at a time ..one regulation at a time to achieve its leftist goals

[Flatbush Zombies]

NO, you did not.  You blasted FOX almost exclusively.  You know if it wasn't for FOX and talk radio there would be no objectivety whatsoever because of the 86% liberals who dominate Media, Hollywood and our Academics. END OF DISCUSSION!!

I pointed out fox because of a members response to something and was providing proof at how dumb fox news makes individuals. Msnbc comes in second at making people dumb but fox news viewers are the least informed and there's been studies done in it. You can argue opinions all day but you can't argue facts.

Did you read about that story about a Ohio man that burned a mosque in Indiana because he was watching fox news and was drunk and raging because fox made him hate Muslims? The judge asked him what made him do it and he said fox news. Fox creates panic and fear. That's what they sell.

Just so you understand......fox, msnbc, CNN are all worthless but some more than others.

progressive views ..lol. that just means a liberal one step at a time ..one regulation at a time to achieve its leftist goals

Dontlop, you were doing so well earlier until this dumb comment. Time to ignore you again

[dontlop]

pro·gres·sive

/prəˈgresiv/

 

Adjective

Happening or developing gradually or in stages; proceeding step by step.

 

Noun

A person advocating or implementing social reform or new, liberal ideas.

Edited March 2, 2013 by dontlop

[Flatbush Zombies]

pro·gres·sive

/prəˈgresiv/

 

Adjective

Happening or developing gradually or in stages; proceeding step by step.

 

Noun

A person advocating or implementing social reform or new, liberal ideas.

This will be the last time I respond to your comprehension skills. I said I have some progressive views along with some conservative views and some moderate views. Learn to read. I know what progressive means. You lack serious comprehension. Learn to read in context

[dontlop]

obamas progressive agenda ...

 

turn prisoners loose on the streets of america cause we dont have money to hold them ... then give money to syria to defend their streets ..

[Flatbush Zombies]

In case you missed it, heres my previous post

#90 Flatbush Zombies

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Posted Today, 02:39 PM

I don't pick party lines because I'm not a closed minded individual. I have views that are conservative, I have views that are liberal, I have moderate views and progressive views. If you pick one side and ignore all other possibilities then you're setting yourself up for ignorance.

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[dontlop]

refer back to my quote used in post  number 93  and the response .. i proved my reponse to be accurate .. so whos  comment was dumb

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[pudge]

LMAO! You clearly ignored what I said above. All televised media is a JOKE and Fox is the ring leader. You wasted a lot of time typing this out because I don't watch MSNBC or CNN. END OF DISCUSSION.

By the way, republicans after the election were blaming fox news and said that people should not listen to them. Yes, fox news, the drudge report, rush, and beck are cancers to society and sell a product....IT'S CALLED FEAR! All MSM is a joke but Fox takes the cake.

 

 

That is a factual lie.  Fox news pundits continually correct themselves when they have erred in reporting, as in the case where Breitbart took out of context a quote of a leading female black politicain.  Even the other day O'Reilly gave the WH the benefit of the doubt for saying what it said to Bob Woodward, that it wasn't that bad of an email.  Hannity, of all people, gave credit to Obama for getting Bin Laden.  You never see that on the other channels.   They hated Bush before he was President, while he was Presidient and even now when they haven't heard a peep from him in four years.