The truth about Ron Pau

[jonjon]

The truth about Ron Paul

I have been confused about the undying commitment for Paul whose foreign policy is equal too a person that would witness a neighbor slowly beating his entire family to death and pledge to do nothing about it because it is non of his business. One of the very reasons this candidate would never be able to obtain the highest office in the country that is strong enough to aid the other countries of the world if they needed assistance.

I found this link that is starting to make this senseless following understandable now. It’s not the upstanding morals that the followers are trying to convince everyone that Paul has. It’s his lax stance on drugs that have attracted these rebels without a cause to his corner. The primary elections have proven that although this country does still have a severe drug problem the majority hasn’t fallen into that drug stupor that a few have.

Link provided clears up my confusion

[TPSprayduster]

The truth about Ron Paul

I have been confused about the undying commitment for Paul whose foreign policy is equal too a person that would witness a neighbor slowly beating his entire family to death and pledge to do nothing about it because it is non of his business. One of the very reasons this candidate would never be able to obtain the highest office in the country that is strong enough to aid the other countries of the world if they needed assistance.

I found this link that is starting to make this senseless following understandable now. It’s not the upstanding morals that the followers are trying to convince everyone that Paul has. It’s his lax stance on drugs that have attracted these rebels without a cause to his corner. The primary elections have proven that although this country does still have a severe drug problem the majority hasn’t fallen into that drug stupor that a few have.

Link provided clears up my confusion

My fellow bullet slinger, i am sure you will have alot of questions about your you tube post. OMG, Ron Paul wants to legalize weed, i don't partake in that use of mind altering grass.

Edited June 5, 2012 by TPSprayduster

[jonjon]

My fellow bullet slinger, i am sure you will have alot of questions about your you tube post.

I don't think they will need to ask they are already aware of their position.

[Deltori]

The truth about Ron Paul

I have been confused about the undying commitment for Paul whose foreign policy is equal too a person that would witness a neighbor slowly beating his entire family to death and pledge to do nothing about it because it is non of his business. One of the very reasons this candidate would never be able to obtain the highest office in the country that is strong enough to aid the other countries of the world if they needed assistance.

I found this link that is starting to make this senseless following understandable now. It’s not the upstanding morals that the followers are trying to convince everyone that Paul has. It’s his lax stance on drugs that have attracted these rebels without a cause to his corner. The primary elections have proven that although this country does still have a severe drug problem the majority hasn’t fallen into that drug stupor that a few have.

Link provided clears up my confusion

Umm wow that's got to be the least informed rant about Ron Paul I've ever read. The reasons to support Ron Paul extend far beyond his drug policies which by the way are designed to actually have a positive impact on fighting drug use/abuse while reducing the extravegant expense of the drug war which is failing miserably with billions spent we see the trend of drug use/abuse increasing exponentially, he is simply saying hey lets try a different approach which has been proven in other countries to have a positive impact rather than the negative wasteful process we've embarked on decades ago. Perhaps logic is foreign to you mr. jonjon? Look a bit deeper if you want to understand Ron Paul's allure, it's liberty loving Americans tired of a rediculous government ninnying and taxing them to death over make believe or strawman causes. Back to the basics, get government out of our daily lives ... period.

[skinz]

Jon Jon, note... the appropriate way to "duck and cover" when receiving a beating is to position arms near your face to avoid severe facial damage. Knees are to be brought to chest to cover vital organs and ribs. Also, this brings your face near your hips so you are able to quickly kiss your ass goodbye when these Ron Paul fans get a hold of you. Even though I'm a big fan of Ron Paul, I'm giving you a plus 1 for your courage you've shown me here. May god have mercy on your soul.

Edited June 5, 2012 by skinz

[thegente]

The truth about Ron Paul

I have been confused about the undying commitment for Paul whose foreign policy is equal too a person that would witness a neighbor slowly beating his entire family to death and pledge to do nothing about it because it is non of his business.

Then why didn't the US intervene in Rwanda, Liberia, or any of the other African countries that have been committing genocide, and tearing themselves apart for decades? What about the armies that are committing daily atrocities funded by the illegal diamond trade?

These various armies and factions kidnap children as young as 8 years old and press them into service, forcing them to kill people that they once considered neighbors...this is happening right now in Africa, so tell me, why aren't we intervening there?

NO OIL, or STRATEGIC VALUE.

Edited June 5, 2012 by thegente

[cris]

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[HughJeffin Byrd]

Then why didn't the US intervene in Rwanda, Liberia, or any of the other African countries that have been committing genocide, and tearing themselves apart for decades? What about the armies that are committing daily atrocities funded by the illegal diamond trade?

These various armies and factions kidnap children as young as 8 years old and press them into service, forcing them to kill people that they once considered neighbors...this is happening right now in Africa, so tell me, why aren't we intervening there?

NO OIL, or STRATEGIC VALUE.

SHHHHH GENTE! YOU CAN'T BRING LOGIC TO A NON-DEBATE SINCE THESE GUYS PROVIDE NO ACTUAL REAL INFORMATION...just ask them about the Federal Reserve...they think it's no problem that Romney doesn't even address it.

[thegente]

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Weed is far less harmful than alcohol...I don't smoke it, I prefer beer... but i've never seen a pothead spend his whole paycheck on pot, or smoke a bowl, and then go home and beat his wife and children while stoned. At worst, they eat Taco Bell and play Xbox a little too much...

[TPSprayduster]

SHHHHH GENTE! YOU CAN'T BRING LOGIC TO A NON-DEBATE SINCE THESE GUYS PROVIDE NO ACTUAL REAL INFORMATION...just ask them about the Federal Reserve...they think it's no problem that Romney doesn't even address it.

Well he had enough koqes to sponsor a bill to legalize weed so as cris said smoke it. The price would be regulated and you would get good stuff not the cut junk. Birds are coming got to go. laters hugh

[jonjon]

Ethereal ideas make great fodder for disguising bad motives or delusion thinking could mean one truly believes in the impossible.

[cris]

Weed is far less harmful than alcohol...I don't smoke it, I prefer beer... but i've never seen a pothead spend his whole paycheck on pot, or smoke a bowl, and then go home and beat his wife and children while stoned. At worst, they eat Taco Bell and play Xbox a little too much...

I agree to some of that Gente, the Taco Bell & Xbox part....lol

However, its been shown that medical marijuana abusers (quite a few)

have been selling their dope to kids so that they can buy other drugs.

This has caused some areas to go back to more regulations after

passing laws making weed legal.

[HughJeffin Byrd]

I agree to some of that Gente, the Taco Bell & Xbox part....lol

However, its been shown that medical marijuana abusers (quite a few)

have been selling their dope to kids so that they can buy other drugs.

This has caused some areas to go back to more regulations after

passing laws making weed legal.

BAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA I'd love to see this study...please provide the source.

[cris]

Go find it yourself....you know its true

[Deltori]

I agree to some of that Gente, the Taco Bell & Xbox part....lol

However, its been shown that medical marijuana abusers (quite a few)

have been selling their dope to kids so that they can buy other drugs.

This has caused some areas to go back to more regulations after

passing laws making weed legal.

I'm sure you're just reflecting on some of the rhetoric politicians have used to justify their attacks on a genuinely useful organic remedy with little to no side effects.

Not once has one of those comments been verified or supported by statistical data. Be careful what you believe.

Besides that why not run a campaign against all of the other perscription drugs MDs are perscribing (bad side effects and all) since adults are selling those to kids and thats documented (oxycodone for example)

Gotta keep logic in the loop here folks, we're being mislead by the powers that be on a regular basis.

Edited June 5, 2012 by Deltori

[HughJeffin Byrd]

Go find it yourself....you know its true

That tells me all I need to know about your propagandist ways... "you know it's true"...I could say the same to you when we know Ron Paul's policies are spot on dead accurate.

The onus is on you to prove your point, not me...until then...you are manipulating people's thoughts with propaganda.

Edited June 5, 2012 by HughJeffin Byrd

[rothsdad]

You mean out of my arse doesn't count as scientific integrity?

[HughJeffin Byrd]

You mean out of my arse doesn't count as scientific integrity?

careful cris might get excited cris face

[cris]

I'm sure you're just reflecting on some of the rhetoric politicians have used to justify their attacks on a genuinely useful organic remedy with little to no side effects.

Not once has one of those comments been verified or supported by statistical data. Be careful what you believe.

Besides that why not run a campaign against all of the other perscription drugs MDs are perscribing (bad side effects and all) since adults are selling those to kids and thats documented (oxycodone for example)

Gotta keep logic in the loop here folks, we're being mislead by the powers that be on a regular basis.

The info is out there, all you have to do is look it up

Colorado citizens concerned about protecting young people from being targeted by a commercial marijuana industry if the drug is legalized should ask the Colorado State Department of Revenue executive director Barbara Brohl (303.866.5610) to incorporate our 12 Provisions into the marijuana regulations it develops.

Access to Medical Marijuana Dispensaries Increases Marijuana Use and Sales among School Children

March 14, 2012–

A collaboration of Colorado media groups reports that suspensions for drug violations at the state’s public schools increased 45 percent over the past four years, expulsions for drug violations increased 35 percent, and referrals to police increased 17 percent, while all other violations declined. Highlights of their findings, published in Education News Colorado, are:

In Denver, referrals of school drug violations to law enforcement increased a whopping 71 percent over the same four years. Denver police began keeping separate records for schools in 2010, recording 179 arrests for marijuana possession or sale at 43 Denver public schools during the 2010-2011 school year. One third of those arrests occurred at elementary and middle schools.

Some 53 medical marijuana dispensaries are within 1,000 feet of Colorado schools, while 95 elementary schools, 27 middle schools, and 23 high schools are within a half mile of a dispensary. School officials say the vast majority of the drug violations involve marijuana and the dispensaries are driving the increase. Colorado legalized medical marijuana in 2000 and dispensaries have proliferated.

Students say they stand outside the dispensaries and ask approaching customers to buy marijuana for them. They call this “shoulder tapping.” Others say they ask friends with medical marijuana cards to buy it for them. Statewide, 41 minors have obtained cards.

One boy, 16, says he thinks the large number of dispensaries makes the drug more attractive. “It’s like Starbucks. You think what’s so good about Starbucks? And you’re going to go try some.” he said.

Five dispensaries are within a three-block radius of the campus of Denver’s East High School, regarded by many as the city’s premiere high school. Its former principal says he asked both city council members and state legislators about the impact dispensaries would have on youth. “They told me, ‘It’s not something we thought about,’” he says. “I’m disappointed that young people weren’t considered when our government decided to implement a law and make medical marijuana legal.”

[thegente]

I agree to some of that Gente, the Taco Bell & Xbox part....lol

However, its been shown that medical marijuana abusers (quite a few)

have been selling their dope to kids so that they can buy other drugs.

This has caused some areas to go back to more regulations after

passing laws making weed legal.

I agree to some extent as well Cris, I used to live above a medical MJ dispensary, and for the most part it was just sick folks getting their pot, but I did see some shady stuff going on as well. I don't think anyone should be selling to kids, but let's face the facts, if someone wants drugs, no matter what you do, they will find it, and get high.

Legalization, taxation and education is the only way I believe the problem can be correctly addressed. Just look at what alcohol prohibition did for organized crime-same has occured with pot and other drugs funding cartels and terrorism. Once you take away the criminal element, it would open up entire new markets and the taxes would be very beneficial to our country.

I've traveled extensively, and been to Amsterdam at least 6 times, and they have way less drug related crime than we experience here in the US. Just because something is legal, doesn't mean everyone and their brother is going to go out and start getting high..I know I wouldn't, as well as many of my friends. thx

Edited June 5, 2012 by thegente

[cris]

I agree to some extent as well Cris, I used to live above a medical MJ dispensary, and for the most part it was just sick folks getting their pot, but I did see some shady stuff going on as well. I don't think anyone should be selling to kids, but let's face the facts, if someone wants drugs, no matter what you do, they will find it, and get high.

Legalization, taxation and education is the only way I believe the problem can be correctly addressed. Just look at what alcohol prohibition did for organized crime-same has occured with pot and other drugs funding cartels and terrorism. Once you take away the criminal element, it would open up entire new markets and the taxes would be very beneficial to our country.

I've traveled extensively, and been to Amsterdam at least 6 times, and they have way less drug related crime than we experience here in the US. Just because something is legal, doesn't mean everyone and their brother is going to go out and start getting high..I know I wouldn't, as well as many of my friends. thx

Thanks Gente.....I wonder, being such a small place ( Netherlands )

under 17 mil.....could they have a larger law enforcement contingent?....

Im guessing they are socialist, meaning they probably

have a large bureaucracy, and stronger control over

peoples actions.....those go hand in hand.

What Im saying is these are probably a few reasons it

seems to work there, and those are not what I would want

to see here....JMO

Edited June 5, 2012 by cris

[thegente]

Thanks Gente.....I wonder, being such a small place ( Netherlands )

under 17 mil.....could they have a larger law enforcement contingent?....

Im guessing they are socialist, meaning they probably

have a large bureaucracy, and stronger control over

peoples actions.....those go hand in hand.

What Im saying is these are probably a few reasons it

seems to work there, and those are not what I would want

to see here....JMO

I don't see how legalizing and regulating MJ would empower the government to have more control over people's actions...You could make it work here without turning America into a socialst country....we have booze sold everywhere, everyday...you'd just have to apply the same kind of restrictions you do on alcohol...no loss of liberty.

In the Netherlands, you are only allowed to consume MJ in a cafe, not on the street, just like booze is here. And it's illegal to purchase it on the street as well. It's not entirely legal there, there are some grey areas, but overall their drug policies seem to work. They treat and rehabilitate the addicts, which in turn reduces the public nuisance/criminal aspect, and keeps the jails open for the really violent criminals....That is something I would LOVE to see here...I grew up in some very rough areas of San Francisco and other parts of the Bay Area and have seen 1st hand what the effects are of illegal drugs on a community and familes can have. Hard drugs are a different story, but treating/rehabbing the addicts is far better than filling our prisons with small-time non-violent offenders, when murders and rapists get released because of overcrowding....thx bud

Edited June 5, 2012 by thegente

[HughJeffin Byrd]

I don't see how legalizing and regulating MJ would empower the government to have more control over people's actions...You could make it work here without turning America into a socialst country....we have booze sold everywhere, everyday...you'd just have to apply the same kind of restrictions you do on alcohol...no loss of liberty.

In the Netherlands, you are only allowed to consume MJ in a cafe, not on the street, just like booze is here. And it's illegal to purchase it on the street as well. It's not entirely legal there, there are some grey areas, but overall their drug policies seem to work. They treat and rehabilitate the addicts, which in turn reduces the public nuisance/criminal aspect, and keeps the jails open for the really violent criminals....That is something I would LOVE to see here...I grew up in some very rough areas of San Francisco and other parts of the Bay Area and have seen 1st hand what the effects are of illegal drugs on a community and familes can have. Hard drugs are a different story, but treating/rehabbing the addicts is far better than filling our prisons with small-time non-violent offenders, when murders and rapists get released because of overcrowding....

This has also been used in Portugal, since 2000, and they've seen drug use actually go down... it works better when you actually treat people with a problem instead of incarcerating them and turning them into REAL criminals.

[ErnMor]

My fellow bullet slinger, i am sure you will have alot of questions about your you tube post. OMG, Ron Paul wants to legalize weed, i don't partake in that use of mind altering grass.

Thanks for educating me on the obvious. I did not see that Ron Paul supporters were obviously drug users. Explains their non-conformity and irrational desires for freedom of speech and choice.Something that tobacco and alcohol abusers enjoy. The war on drugs is just as successfull or unsuccessful as prohibition ever was.[ Nothing wrong with a hung-over ,over -sexed judge,or congressman deciding a person is immoral and needs to be dealt with.] While they and countless lawyers rake in millions]. I agree an obnoxious ,drunken, smoker, with alcohol and tobacco related health and mental problems is far more capable of making an intelligent selection for President,than any drug user with simular health and mental problems. Obviously Ron Paul supporters are on drugs.Mitt Romney supporters are smokers and drunks. What a load of bull !!!

[R2D2]

The truth about Ron Paul

I have been confused about the undying commitment for Paul whose foreign policy is equal too a person that would witness a neighbor slowly beating his entire family to death and pledge to do nothing about it because it is non of his business. One of the very reasons this candidate would never be able to obtain the highest office in the country that is strong enough to aid the other countries of the world if they needed assistance.

I found this link that is starting to make this senseless following understandable now. It’s not the upstanding morals that the followers are trying to convince everyone that Paul has. It’s his lax stance on drugs that have attracted these rebels without a cause to his corner. The primary elections have proven that although this country does still have a severe drug problem the majority hasn’t fallen into that drug stupor that a few have.

Link provided clears up my confusion

Brother I neg(-) you. Your statment about RP supporters is ill thought out and very narrow in scope. I have been a supporter for many years now. Not because he endoses legalized weed. Because of his position on the Constitution. He also believes we should quite trying to police the world. I agree!

If you could see a cross section of the tea party (paul supporters) you would see that we are freedom loving average Americans that you and others like you see as a threat to your hidden agenda. You get that from the demonizing done by the lamestream media. Just like you they don't know crap about what we want and believe.

What we would really like is for you and your side would get educated before you start that demon thing. Those that hang around the cess pool(DC) need to recognize we will gain control of our country agin. THE ROBOT SAID THAT!!!!!!!!

This has also been used in Portugal, since 2000, and they've seen drug use actually go down... it works better when you actually treat people with a problem instead of incarcerating them and turning them into REAL criminals.

Hugh when you do that the stateist loss control over those people. If they loose control how do they justify their existance. Just a passing thought.