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Was this the lady that couldn't figure out where the camera was?

Thanks DJ !!!! Interesting points.... Even though I have only a couple hundred K dinar.... this has been such an engaging puzzle, and if nothing else, the geopolitical history unfolding has been facinating!!!

'Thanks Ron!!! I appreciate your efforts in posting this….. I personally don't get too caught up in whether specific issues are right or wrong. I do get interesting info to correlate with other info.. sometimes innocuous other times pretty evident..... Not sure I have ever seen anything that is 100% right or 100% wrong, in this game.... and as always, it seems that one must continue to use their discernment, take responsibility for what you do with the pieces of info and do your own research in constructing plausible scenarios... Thanks again for adding more possible pieces to this great national puzzle

Thanks for taking the time to not only research it for yourself, but for going through all all those steps in accurately sharing it with us as well! I appreciate the solidness of this information... its logical and resonates with not only how big this is, but the duty those with knowledge have to protect this process. I am not in a position to determinei whether any other "intel" is or is not BS, but your words stand out as a credible discussion of the issue. Thanks!

I got one of these scam letters from alleged military guys who asked me to help them get dinar out of Iraq. I did a reverse trace on the email and it was coming from Brazil...... That probably explains why the grammer and sentence structure was a bit better than those usually coming from a non latin based language lol lol ... These guys are getting better all the time...

For what it is worth, Vietnam does have oil and is one of the top fiields in the ASEAN group of countires http://www.offshore-technology.com/projects/hac_long/

Nice !!!! Thanks !!

I don't necessarily disagree, however when going to work, they was no choice about having money taken out to put into retirement. It happens automatically, whether they wanted it in the big ole retirement fund with everyone else or not. They take their money and they put it into funds they choose and lend as they choose etc etc, has happened to so many. There was also no choice about being taken "out" of Social Security (not that its such a great system or will be around much longer...). Whether like it or not, they are taken off the social security rolls because of being in state retirement. Many said they would have done a much better job with their own money.... but didn't get that vote either lol lol . Pretty much everyone I know on a retirement plan puts in additional retirement money, as they all expect the system that took a healthy chunk of their money every month (much more than SSI), will eventually crash and burn, and they like so many before, will have nothing. BTW, in California they have already renegotiated the contracts of most the major unions with only one holdout... and I think that will come around soon. The negotiation was for those who are now entering employment.... Changing a standing agreement with a 58 year old person who has 27 years in and who made life and career decisions based upon that agreement, would be a total breach of integrity absent any honor. California also took 15% pay cut across the board,for all state people (oh except I think legislators, atty general and other judiciary).... not sure how that equation was matrixed.... lol lol lol ... If you want to look at a great pension my brothers railroad pension totally rocks... then again those multi million severance pay offs to private corps aren't bad either... I say real estate.... and will stick to it.... lol

I'm wondering if there is a combination of things going on.... and we try to connect the dots to what we are looking for within the context of our question (when will it RV). But instead these dots are connected to other relationships with much bigger global relationships that have nothing to do with the immediacy of our question: "when will it RV". Specifically, I poured over hundreds of documents this past week (home sick,) digging into back stories of stories through primary sites like the IMF, World Bank and UN, going back for 10+ years. I should have taken notes, but hard to do when laying down and reading, and I was more into pouring through, than documenting trail. One of the connect the dot paths that bounces around in the back of my brain is the decade long plan referenced in multiple documents to establish one currency for the GCC. The target date for this was 31 Dec 2010. You can read about this in archives of the IMF and UN. The GCC last month invited Iraq to rejoin them. So Iraq becomes part ot the GCC that has this decade long plan to establish one GCC currency. I was in Italy for months before and during the introduction of the Euro. Italy (the islands) was a total train wreck, for merchants.... but that's another story. One of the things I remember the EU govt's grappling with was trying to establish some degree of currency parity between the countries involved. ( I wonder if this is where the IQD within +/- .50 cents of the KWD started. Of all the primary sources I read, I never did find this specific reference). In any event. as we approached the introduction of the Euro, while there was no comparison for bringing in an impoverished,\ sanctioned country like Iraq in turn ready to revalue, the EU countries did start calling in their notes, and it was very confusing as to which currency we were using and weren't using and which countries were now okay and not okay, and could we use french money in spain now that we were one and had the euro and on and on..... I haven't seen any recent information about a single currency for the GCC except from IMF in 2008, with target still listed as 31Dec2010. The IMF did a Position Paper, which I would guess is a lot like a White Paper in my world? I am wondering if there is trading back and forth wtihin the countries of the GCC and if so, if it has anything to do with a process that will ultimately lead to the issue of a single currency for that union. In this way it makes some sense that both things could be happening.... attempted parity within the GCC in heading toward stabilization of currency as a single source for the region... and this having nothing to do with us outside the GCC or an RV for those of us not involved in the GCC countries.... Its late and I am probably not saying this as best I could, or with the clairty I should... And thank God there are some really bright people in here who will hopefully get the gist of what I am trying to say and put it together much better as a possible explanation for perhaps both things being true (ccurrency texchanging absent official RV but with parity within GCC countries and not Rving in non GCC countries).... I am wondering if what we are seeing are the steps toward a one region currency, versus a chaotic process messing with our RV. And if they do go to a one region currency, I do not see that in any way impacting the RV for us and cash in for us here. I think when the Euro came out, we had like 2 years or something to exchange the Lira.....

If you change the language to the native language and put try to put those numbers in, you can't do it. In the native language of the country, the IQD does not even show. (if you want to try this, note the converter will go from the right side of the screen to the left, when you change the language (consistent with how its read, right to left). The conversion countries remain in English) ... Most likely is the bank did not update the code for the all English site, and of course keeps current the code for the site in the native tongue. I would probably think more of this rate if it were even available for conversion in the primary language of Jordan, for this bank's website.

These are hard times for most of us. In some cases its downright desperation for some. I think many of us look for something.. any little thing…. that is real.... in hanging onto hopes this investment will come to fruition. It seems that's why many of us are here. And for some, I know you are hanging on to every word written for some glimpse of reality that this is happening now if not very soon. I know there are those out there who have come onto hard times so dire, that this RV is a matter of whether or not they will have a place to sleep or food to eat in the coming months. Its not that you spent your last penny on hope.... but more so... hope that your last penny spent way back when, will save you from the oncoming burden of not having rent money. My heart goes out to you, and this must be nerve wracking in ways I am Blessed to have not known. Hanging on to this hope only to have it dashed into a million pieces every time we blow past a date, or find a quirk in a link, or have evidence of the contrary..... every time that bit of hope lightened your heart with joy, ..... it is now probably just that much more disappointing, or frightening, or even angering that we are left with exactly the same thing we started with before reading..... no real information… A complete lack of certainty as to what is really happening, when it will happen, and how much will it impact our lives financially when it does happen. There have been endless admonishments about only spending what you could afford. I haven’t really noticed that many posts suggesting that if you are waiting for the dinar to RV any moment so as to save you from financial disaster… you may want to consider an alternate plan. And no…. no…. I am not saying it won’t RV/RI any day now. I am saying that if your well-being depends upon that, you may want to pursue other options beginning now. If you are holding off seeking a job, you may want to submit applications now. If you have sent out a ton of applications and aren’t getting replies, you may want to go put in applications at places you would “never consider working” be that McDonalds, Burger King, WalMart. I don’t know, just places you would not have previously considered. And I am NOT knocking those places…. they are just some I would have not considered in my initial attempts to find employment. You can always quit that job when it does RV, and in the meantime, you have become a bit more responsible in taking care of yourself and your needs. Sitting in front of this computer will not feed or house you in the event the RV is longer than what you need. This is addictive in the same way gambling is addictive….Intermittent reinforcement. Think of it this way….you’ve put a ton of nickels** into the machine (time spent reading the forums all day), hoping to hit the big jack pot (hoping for confirmation of RV/RI and rate). And just as you are getting disgusted at winning nothing (reading anything of real value or confirmation)…. you put in one last nickel before walking (you read one more set of forums before swearing off and going out to find a job)…. And what do ya know, that nickel hits a tiny pot and 50 nickels spit out (one of the gurus spits out something that is exactly what you wanted to hear… and it looks like that RV/RI is going to happen within days). What do many many people do? Stand at that machine and put in another nickel (read a “bit” more to get even further confirmation this will happen “tomorrow”). Therein lies the emotional roller coaster, the ups and downs, the winning and losing. In many ways, this emotional ride is as real as if you were standing in Vegas. I know there are some who say “just sit back and relax” and if your well-being does not depend upon this RV … cool. However, if you cannot afford shelter and food in the next month or two unless this does RV, then I would suggest the opposite and you get out of that chair and go get a job now if you don’t have one, or do what you have to do to make ends meet until someone tells you the CBI has posted a rate. You can always quit. Your emotions may well ride the edge of this exciting unfolding, but your well-being is not in any way served by waiting in front of the computer on the edge of financial disaster resulting in your homelessness because you were convinced RV was around the corner. Who knows? Maybe it is. Just don’t let your hopes for that possibility put you in a place of unconsciousness wherein you ignore your responsibility to take care of yourself in providing for the well-being of you or your family right here and right now. ** PS I know most machines are now on cards and no real money spits out…. This is just a faster way to a quick analogy. God Bless…

Laughing..... TaxLady you get no arguement from me .... I can't think of many things I would be less able to engage than tax law.... My hat's off to you and those who save us daily from this despair.... Two things I swore I would never ever do: my own surgery and my own taxes..... Thanks for the info !

These are hard times for most of us. In some cases its downright desperation for some. I think many of us look for something.. any little thing…. that is real.... in hanging onto hopes this investment will come to fruition. It seems that's why many of us are here. And for some, I know you are hanging on to every word written for some glimpse of reality that this is happening now if not very soon. I know there are those out there who have come onto hard times so dire, that this RV is a matter of whether or not they will have a place to sleep or food to eat in the coming months. Its not that you spent your last penny on hope.... but more so... hope that your last penny spent way back when, will save you from the oncoming burden of not having rent money. My heart goes out to you, and this must be nerve wracking in ways I am Blessed to have not known. Hanging on to this hope only to have it dashed into a million pieces every time we blow past a date, or find a quirk in a link, or have evidence of the contrary..... every time that bit of hope lightened your heart with joy, ..... it is now probably just that much more disappointing, or frightening, or even angering that we are left with exactly the same thing we started with before reading..... no real information… A complete lack of certainty as to what is really happening, when it will happen, and how much will it impact our lives financially when it does happen. There have been endless admonishments about only spending what you could afford. I haven’t really noticed that many posts suggesting that if you are waiting for the dinar to RV any moment so as to save you from financial disaster… you may want to consider an alternate plan. And no…. no…. I am not saying it won’t RV/RI any day now. I am saying that if your well-being depends upon that, you may want to pursue other options beginning now. If you are holding off seeking a job, you may want to submit applications now. If you have sent out a ton of applications and aren’t getting replies, you may want to go put in applications at places you would “never consider working” be that McDonalds, Burger King, WalMart. I don’t know, just places you would not have previously considered. And I am NOT knocking those places…. they are just some I would have not considered in my initial attempts to find employment. You can always quit that job when it does RV, and in the meantime, you have become a bit more responsible in taking care of yourself and your needs. Sitting in front of this computer will not feed or house you in the event the RV is longer than what you need. This is addictive in the same way gambling is addictive….Intermittent reinforcement. Think of it this way….you’ve put a ton of nickels** into the machine (time spent reading the forums all day), hoping to hit the big jack pot (hoping for confirmation of RV/RI and rate). And just as you are getting disgusted at winning nothing (reading anything of real value or confirmation)…. you put in one last nickel before walking (you read one more set of forums before swearing off and going out to find a job)…. And what do ya know, that nickel hits a tiny pot and 50 nickels spit out (one of the gurus spits out something that is exactly what you wanted to hear… and it looks like that RV/RI is going to happen within days). What do many many people do? Stand at that machine and put in another nickel (read a “bit” more to get even further confirmation this will happen “tomorrow”). Therein lies the emotional roller coaster, the ups and downs, the winning and losing. In many ways, this emotional ride is as real as if you were standing in Vegas. I know there are some who say “just sit back and relax” and if your well-being does not depend upon this RV … cool. However, if you cannot afford shelter and food in the next month or two unless this does RV, then I would suggest the opposite and you get out of that chair and go get a job now if you don’t have one, or do what you have to do to make ends meet until someone tells you the CBI has posted a rate. You can always quit. Your emotions may well ride the edge of this exciting unfolding, but your well-being is not in any way served by waiting in front of the computer on the edge of financial disaster resulting in your homelessness because you were convinced RV was around the corner. Who knows? Maybe it is. Just don’t let your hopes for that possibility put you in a place of unconsciousness wherein you ignore your responsibility to take care of yourself in providing for the well-being of you or your family right here and right now. ** PS I know most machines are now on cards and no real money spits out…. This is just a faster way to a quick analogy. God Bless…

TaxLady... My tax attorney of many years always said that if I hold something as an investment, there is a different tax liability than to hold it otherwise. Thus, its always been very important to be clear as to the intention of your money spent. I am going to guess that the cited Presidential Order would serve as a justification of your "intent" ..... as it relfects the terminology indicating this to be an investment (versus other intentions). And I am guessing that any monies realized from this investment would carry different liability than something not intended to be an investment? This has nothing to do with the dinar per se.... but for me throughout the years long before the dinar, has had everything to do with liability. I have no idea whatsoever if this would effect all tax brackets, as I always seem to end up in the highest.... and I would guess that's why the tax attorneys make the big bucks in making these specific delinations?

Hey Akin... this has nothing to do with dinar.... and I am totally curious. Are all of you guys over there now in multicam, or is it still being phased in?.... I left with digi dam*it and missed the multi ...And yeah, my wingnut branch still attached to tiger, but my last functional position allowed cami.... thank God. Just curious where that's :)

Thanks Dinar Viper!... I traveled around that site until I got back to the currency converter and then went to the "Travelers Cheatsheet" tab. It shows the conversion is the same as its always been...(if not lower for those who recently bought dinar). This is kind of like being at one of those Mystery Dinner Shows and being seated with the entire country.... Colonel Mustard in the library with the candlestick....

Niceeeee Thor... Thanks!

I have no idea about the rumors, and have certainly read a plethora of them in this entertaining section. In doing my own research, For what its worth, I did come across an Iraqi government site that did show the ship manifests for the past few months and what they are now unloading. I was primarily interested in the countries involved and didn't really look to see if there were boatloads of cars. They are unloading stuff now and they do show volume. I am not on my primary home computer and don't have saved inks, but I can look them up if anyone is nterested when I get back there (around 10pm PST)....... The info is there, I just don't think it really substantiates a cogent summary of what is or is not necessarily happening around the dinar RV.

My brother is a former VP of WF. He went to WF and sent a wire from WF to DT with no problems just last week. Maybe just go to another WF branch and have them send it.

Wow...as a vet, all I can say is wow. I really have no idea as to his credibility in being any kind of guru, apart from what I read in here, and don't really listen to him in that respect. I do my own intel. I just have a hard time with people laying claim to that which others have actually given, suffered and lost. I guess he needs to make his own choices as to the karma he creates. And actually this is kind of sad, sobering and disappointing. If nothing else, I would wish he would change his name out of respect for those who have or do serve in this capacity. And no.... this has nothing to do with dinar and guru... it has everything to do with honor and respect.

Bet ya if 11 thousand people called them like they did Doha in the last 24 hours, they would have that puppy fixed in a turbo second

Yeah its kinda sad to see this thread die... It was so hopping last night while the IQD was posted. If nothing else, it was great fun speculating as to what it all meant, and after watching paint dry for days on end... It was fun to actually see something change which in turn may (or may not) mean anything.

No you are not blind. You were looking at the site all of us were watching last night. It was there for hours. It is clearly not there now. I have no idea what that does or doesn't mean, beyond it was there and now it is not. BTW for this bank it was only on the Kuwait site for the bank. You could check thay by looking to see that kw was in the link.... (can't remember what was in the link for the other two banks). Those checking the bank and not looking at the Kuwait site, could not see the KWD to IQD exchange. In looking at the Kuwait site this morning, the KWD to IQD is also not there anymore. Also, the exchange was always for KWD to IQD. There was never a direct IQD to USD. The equation was IQD to KWD and then KWD to USD. Again, don't have any idea as to the meaning of it all. But it was there and is now gone

^5 thanks for all your work AliveandCare !!! I think I am right behind you.... See ya'll tomorrow

USMC what do you mean by that?^^ as in .35 for a million=350k? i agree with you as well i think they jumped out to make alot of money.. and when it happens they get alot of cheddar and thats how they resolved the kuwait issue... JMO Read more: EXACTLY !!! I am so there on that..... they are still pissy holidng out on the reparation thing.. and getting lots of pressure (per Iraqi newpaper 10 Jan).... this way they can make some of that up... if they have to relent to world pressure... I totally agree with you.