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Another thought on taxes. When the founding fathers set up this country an American was to pay NO TAXES. If we were to pay no taxes, who was to pay them? CORPORATIONS, thats who, but who does not pay taxes? CORPORATIONS, they seem to have found a way to duck the obligation. Income taxes are illegal and the flat tax is just as illegal. But, most Americans have not studied early American history and they are caught up in what they learn in the public fool system. (by the way the founding fathers would not allow public schools in America, we now know why). "If we run such [government] debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in twenty-four, give earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses, and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-suffers." ~ Thomas Jefferson

Oh how I wish I could believe them.

Shabibbi’s speech this week told us a couple of things. 1. The most important topic of his was INFLATION, INFLATION, INFLATION. 2. Fiscal stability He never mentioned a tradable currency. Over the past seven years he has managed the exchange rate of the IQD and it has been set at 1170 for the past two years. He has adjusted the rate at least two times since 2003, I believe because of inflation. He said he has his eye on the inflation rate at this time because it is over five per cent. What if the exchange rate is lowered from 1170 to 500 this week? That would be an RV that I am not looking for, but would be in line with Ali’s statement a couple of weeks ago, when he said “this is a long term investment”. At 500 correct me if I am wrong, a 25000 note would exchange for $50 USD. What is the magic figure of inflation before he will adjust the exchange rate? And if the adjustment brings the inflation rate to two or three per cent how long is it before the inflation rate climbs again and is revalued at one cent or less. At this rate we could be waiting months for a worthwhile exchange. Just some thoughts about Shabibbi’s speech.

Ths is off topics. Anything goes.

Thanks for the post.

I don't agree with you. I believe those green rags you carry are rented from the Feds. They are debt something or others, I want to say notes but they are not even notes. They are non redeemable and pay nothing to nobody. Our supposed money belongs to the Fed. "If we run such [government] debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in twenty-four, give earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses, and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-suffers." ~ Thomas Jefferson

Divemaster, you are outdoing yourself, this post is so true, but it is the international bankers that are pushing him and have pushed every president in this nation. We need our money system back. We need to do in the Federal Reserve System to get the international bankers out of our lives.

divemaster, you are bad, bad, bad

Roadrunner, I have enjoyed your posts, do not stop posting when you arrive in your new location. Lots of good luck in your new endeavor. Emmet

I believe this is forum is called OFF TOPICS, in other words the poster is allowed to post what he/she likes.

The whole process of foreclosure is full of fraud from start to finish. I feel sorry for those who lost their job and then their home.

divemaster, thanks for the post. Things are achanging, and it can't be all bad.

Kota, sorry to say he has his foot in a lot of countries. "If we run such [government] debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in twenty-four, give earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses, and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-suffers." ~ Thomas Jefferson

Papster thanks for the post, very enlightening.

divemaster5734 Thanks for the post. Another interesting post of yours.

divemaster5734 nice post. Just one thought, no attorney in the USA has a license to practice law. They have a BAR CARD issued by the Supreme Court of their State. A license is issued by the state. Funny they have no license but in California a finger nail trimmer has to be licensed. Thanks for the post. "If we run such [government] debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in twenty-four, give earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses, and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-suffers." ~ Thomas Jefferson

Thanks for the post. The author says that it is the promissory note that creates the money and he/she is correct, but more correct it is the signature of the living soul that creates the fiat money. You can learn more on this, google Modern Money Mechanics and read just the first 6 pages and it will point out all the fraud in the money system of America. Modern Money Mechanics was written by an attorney that was employed by the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago. Years ago you could call the bank and they would send you a case of the pamphlets but the Fed started getting beat up in court from the knowledge people acquired from studying it, the Fed has pulled it from the public. Again thanks for the post. "If we run such [government] debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in twenty-four, give earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses, and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-suffers." ~ Thomas Jefferson

Thanks for this, I have seen it before and did not save it, I'm going to print this and save it this time. Thanks again

Letter to the Ruling Class by admin on Apr 1, 2011 • 6:50 pm 664 Comments You control our world. You’ve poisoned the air we breathe, contaminated the water we drink, and copyrighted the food we eat. We fight in your wars, die for your causes, and sacrifice our freedoms to protect you. You’ve liquidated our savings, destroyed our middle class, and used our tax dollars to bailout your unending greed. We are slaves to your corporations, zombies to your airwaves, servants to your decadence. You’ve stolen our elections, assassinated our leaders, and abolished our basic rights as human beings. You own our property, shipped away our jobs, and shredded our unions. You’ve profited off of disaster, destabilized our currencies, and raised our cost of living. You’ve monopolized our freedom, stripped away our education, and have almost extinguished our flame. We are hit… we are bleeding… but we ain’t got time to bleed. We will bring the giants to their knees and you will witness our revolution! Sincerely, The Serfs. "If we run such [government] debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in twenty-four, give earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses, and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-suffers." ~ Thomas Jefferson

Very good, Tiffany23 are you the author???

Qman, that one went flying to all my friends, thanks for the post

divemaster5734 As I understand it they incorporated the first time In January 1871, they redid it again a little later, no matter they did it. I understand that the Republic is still there to be reestablished if..... Every American should read the Grace Report. You can google it, and every American should read the Treaty of 1778, it's a treaty between the USA and the Delaware Indians. Early American history is so important and an understanding of Lawful Law is important also. But, because they took our money from us we lost our law also, divemaster5734 thanks for your post.

Keeps, I am impressed with your post, and thanks for posting. I think you took a crash course from Dale Carnegie and RonSkilbeck on how to win friends and influence enemies. This is the first post of yours I really enjoyed reading the whole way through. Very nice and thought provoking. Again thanks for the post. "If we run such [government] debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in twenty-four, give earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses, and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-suffers." ~ Thomas Jefferson

jetcarson thanks for the post, but I want to add a thought. In your heading of your post you said "President of the USA, I want to correct that to read as it should President of the United States. There is a huge difference. You can prove to yourself this is true just by reading the "Presidential Seal" that is always on the podium from which he spews his....... "If we run such [government] debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in twenty-four, give earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses, and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-suffers." ~ Thomas Jefferson

Hi RS, So, your info did not turn out the way you wanted, I’m sorry about that. No apology is required from you. But what is interesting is the excellent way you present your position. Unlike some of the replies from some posters that have a different opinion, and their opinion could be valid, but they present it in such a way, lots of times with utter arrogance that I don’t want to read them. It is not what they say it is the way they say it, with a bunch of misspelled words, name calling, etc. Your posts are always worth reading and I thank you for them. "If we run such [government] debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in twenty-four, give earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses, and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-suffers." ~ Thomas Jefferson