DInar Speculation Article by Forbes

[prichard072885]

Here is the link to the story:

http://news.yahoo.com/iraqi-dinar-worthless-paper-maker-millionaires-124022241.html

Dozens of people have signed up for tax consultations with me over the years looking for a windfall profit on the U.S. government revaluation of the Iraqi dinars back into U.S. dollars. In other words, these were people holding dinars who were hoping they could exchange them for dollars again.

Most dinar investors are current and ex-military, warzone contractors and now speculators. A cottage industry of promoters has sprung up on the Internet promising dinar "get rich" schemes. Many have invested, say, $5,000 and they hope to make millions. I’ve always thought it was a scam, as it sounded too good to be true.

These people ask me about their potential large tax bills. Most hope for long-term capital gains tax rates, currently up to 15 percent. I have to give them the bad news: holding physical currency is considered ordinary gain or loss in Section 988 (foreign currency transactions). Unlike forex traders, who don’t hold physical currency and don’t take or make delivery, they can’t file a capital gains election to opt out of Section 988 and into short- and long-term capital gains treatment.

That means no lower 60/40 futures tax rate either (Section 1256). At least, it’s not considered a personal loss which otherwise can't be deducted, as is the case when a person returns from a vacation and exchanges his left over currency from that trip. Investors in dinars can deduct ordinary losses in Section 988, but few expect a loss.

Lords of Finance: The Bankers Who Broke the World by Liaquat Ahamed is about how the four leading central bankers from the U.S., U.K., France and Germany navigated in and out of WWI and financed recoveries and German reparations. These central bankers went off and on the gold and new dollar standards by manipulating their exchange and interest rates and much more. This is how money and power (military and otherwise) go hand in hand.

Our current situation begs the question: Did the Bush administration plan on, and is the Obama administration still considering, paying for part or all of the Iraq war by collecting taxes from the revaluation of the dinar?

If this scheme has any resemblance of reality, it could be an interesting revenue raiser for the government, and I know the government is hunting for revenue raisers and closing of tax loopholes.

Maybe the story here is just that it’s a scam. But, if rumors in the marketplace are true, and the dinar does revalue and allow conversion for most to pre-war levels, what are the ramifications for the government, Iraq, the military, investors and taxpayers? Also, what’s holding up the revaluation? Can Iraq handle it?

It does sound like a happy ending which makes me suspicious. How much tax revenue do U.S., state and local governments stand to collect? How many former and current military personnel and contractors stand to become millionaires overnight?

[Nelg]

Thanks for the post. It has been posted a couple of times if not more. It was also in the Wall Street J. Keep looking, there are a lot of good articles and news reports out there.

Welcome to DV!

[aliciadogz]

So is he saing it's a gains tax? Also, I wonder did the this person invest himself ? Great post,THANKS!!!

[WallyWeaver]

This article is from July 27th but thanks for reposting, I had not read it yet.

[estewart]

One of our better quality posts. Appreciate it.

[Elixirbaby]

The things I've Have read it's considered income and taxed as such. Sucks. But I'll still be laughing my way to the bank. 

[B-gap]

Not to be a negative Nancy but read the postscript above the article.

"Postscript. After reading several good comments on this blog exposing the buy Iraqi Dinar get rich quick scheme as a scam, I want to make it very clear that I also believe it’s a scam. My intent for the original blog was to answer tax questions about holding physical currency as an investment, not to drill down into the Iraqi Dinar scheme. I may do just that in a follow-up post soon. -R.G."

[FrankenSLI]

Not to be a negative Nancy but read the postscript above the article.

"Postscript. After reading several good comments on this blog exposing the buy Iraqi Dinar get rich quick scheme as a scam, I want to make it very clear that I also believe it’s a scam. My intent for the original blog was to answer tax questions about holding physical currency as an investment, not to drill down into the Iraqi Dinar scheme. I may do just that in a follow-up post soon. -R.G."

I am sure this was just his disclaimer so if someone invested due to his article and lost their ass he would not feel responsible.

[goldengoose]

Not to be a negative Nancy but read the postscript above the article.

"Postscript. After reading several good comments on this blog exposing the buy Iraqi Dinar get rich quick scheme as a scam, I want to make it very clear that I also believe it’s a scam. My intent for the original blog was to answer tax questions about holding physical currency as an investment, not to drill down into the Iraqi Dinar scheme. I may do just that in a follow-up post soon. -R.G."

.......I had a different comment....but, never mind!

Thank you,

GG

[nointel]

The things I've Have read it's considered income and taxed as such. Sucks. But I'll still be laughing my way to the bank. 

if it comes out low at say .01 i won't be laughing. i may be smiling. even if it comes out at .10 i stll may not be laughing. but if it comes out anything above .50 then i will be laughing, smiling, dancing, grinning from ear to ear and may be crying. who knows what else. don't get your hopes up just yet. a lot of people looking to make millions may very well be dissapointed when this is finally over.

Edited August 23, 2011 by nointel

[dog53]

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Thay need to be quite and stop letting the cat out of the bag. We know its going to RV Nobody else needs to know.