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Folks I swear to you if the USA get down graded from AAA+ to AA+ we are all stuffed in this investment/Gamble

If Obama goes to congress next 3-7 days without a AAAA+ plan we can all kiss goodbye to this dream for a minimum of another 5 years.

Just being honest :)

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Who cares about this investment compared to our Country, and our freedom and our way of life. With our Country circling the bowl, well its just breaks my heart and I am sure yours also

No doubt! This investment is NOT the end all be all. In all reality, you cant take it with you in the end.

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I SUGGEST that we all contact our DC senators and representatives AND the President and tell them we are all waiting for our turn - they appear to have had theirs in tier 2 - if that is in fact what has occurred.

Their wasting time bickering about how to divide up the spoils is not only discriminatory for us but also the entire world population -- remember other countries are waiting to revalue their currencies also.

What we have here is a DOLLAR waiting on a Dime (and I say that tongue in cheek as I personally feel this President and Congress are NOT worth a plug nickel. It is time we voted them ALL out and started over.

How about it WASHINGTON D C? You have forgotten why you are where you are? I was led to believe that you are there to REPRESENT the people -- Doesn't look like that to me, but what do I know - I only pay taxes to feed your greed. Time for a COMPLETE change in DC -- Top to Bottom. WE THE PEOPLE - isn't that how the Constitution starts? About time y'all started doing what is best for WE THE PEOPLE instead of yourselves. 2010 - a GOOD YEAR for a CLEAN SWEEP.

The WORLD is PASSING THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS AND PRESIDENT BY. Get the message? YOU NO LONGER COUNT. Don't think so - read Dinar Recaps.

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It is time we voted them ALL out and started over.

Time for a COMPLETE change in DC -- Top to Bottom. WE THE PEOPLE - isn't that how the Constitution starts? About time y'all started doing what is best for WE THE PEOPLE instead of yourselves. 2010 - a GOOD YEAR for a CLEAN SWEEP.

The WORLD is PASSING THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS AND PRESIDENT BY. Get the message? YOU NO LONGER COUNT. Don't think so - read Dinar Recaps.

I agree with you 100%. "We the people" have to stop voting party lines and vote for the individual. The only bad thing is, THEY ALL lie about what they stand for and believe in. An honest person will be corrupt after a short time as a politician with all the PAC's and lobbyists in DC. Getting rid of those groups would be a good start.

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I SUGGEST that we all contact our DC senators and representatives AND the President and tell them we are all waiting for our turn - they appear to have had theirs in tier 2 - if that is in fact what has occurred.

Their wasting time bickering about how to divide up the spoils is not only discriminatory for us but also the entire world population -- remember other countries are waiting to revalue their currencies also.

What we have here is a DOLLAR waiting on a Dime (and I say that tongue in cheek as I personally feel this President and Congress are NOT worth a plug nickel. It is time we voted them ALL out and started over.

How about it WASHINGTON D C? You have forgotten why you are where you are? I was led to believe that you are there to REPRESENT the people -- Doesn't look like that to me, but what do I know - I only pay taxes to feed your greed. Time for a COMPLETE change in DC -- Top to Bottom. WE THE PEOPLE - isn't that how the Constitution starts? About time y'all started doing what is best for WE THE PEOPLE instead of yourselves. 2010 - a GOOD YEAR for a CLEAN SWEEP.

The WORLD is PASSING THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS AND PRESIDENT BY. Get the message? YOU NO LONGER COUNT. Don't think so - read Dinar Recaps.

Have you noticed, that they don’t give a sh*t about us working people and what we believe or want?

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My opinion has always been ---no one with more than 1 million dollars in assets should be allowed to run for any political office if they have more than that then they have lost touch with the general population and what it takes to earn 1 million dollars--can they truly represent us.---no they can't and they can't make reasonable decisions to operate the country---they have too much time on thier hands

I also believe military service should be required---let them put thier life on the line before our troops are committed to prop up or throw out another government, lastly all PACs and lobbists should be banned --too much money to throw around and no one is sure where it ends up!

JMHO

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Folks I swear to you if the USA get down graded from AAA+ to AA+ we are all stuffed in this investment/Gamble

If Obama goes to congress next 3-7 days without a AAAA+ plan we can all kiss goodbye to this dream for a minimum of another 5 years.

Just being honest :)

Besides your obvious displeasure with Obama I was wondering if you could enlighten us with what your group is saying is going to happen. I remember you in October saying not until 2011 and now here we are! Also people are freaking out about a Lop because the Shabbs article today....

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FRIDAY, JULY 15, 2011

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PTR Radio Show #2 - 7 15 2011 - 9 PM EDT Call

PTR Conference Call #2 7 15 2011

Dan: First call was not recorded. Have a lot better news. Some scary news Tony

Tony: Good News.

Dan: Very good news. Have had a couple of calls myself. From the beginning we have tried to stay away for rates and dates. Especially myself. Tonight we are at that spot again. Wish it was more provable. Have had 3 very serious calls today. Telling us that this has already taken place. In country. Strong confirmations of the rate.

Tony – why are they saying as of midnight last night was announced already?

Tony: All the information we have gotten since this am confirms what we said that Iraq was confirmed international. We started getting other calls. Got a call from an agency guy, Said meetings taking place right now. Congressmen, bankers, UST people in a meeting right then. Don’t know if this part is true or not but a couple of hours later (I can’t confirm this) got a call that said did I hear about the emergency meeting that said that Iraq and /Europe were going to do this today regardless. Tired of waiting. Don’t know.

Getting word that it may have happened today.

Dan: Dave is on the call with us. Didn’t tell Tony what Dave told me. Would you share?

Dave: It absolutely comports right down the line with it. Three letter agencies, 3 letter governing body saying about to take place. Pretty much in keeping with what Tony said.. What I mentioned to you earlier…..

Dan: Can hardly say it.

Dave: Been like trying to nail jello to the wall. We heard that the officials on their side came to our side and said that out of respect to the US govt they are going to go ahead and announce this as soon as tomorrow. Go through and confirm this through other agencies that is what we are left with. Rate ranges anywhere from mid $3 tied to usd to mid 4 tied to GBP… $7.10 or something like that if to GBP…..

Tony: I think that is great news . I like it. I will go one step further. We got off our call and I got calls saying done – to GBP and it is that over $4 range. I have been hearing and saying that it was going to be…. I was looking for the $5 range…. If they forced it through and didn’t wait for the US they changed the rate. I got confirmation in 3 separate calls in last 3 hours from Iraq that we would see this tomorrow. That is what they are being told over there. What we are hearing over here. Let’s hope some comes true.

Dan: I got a call just now. Trust this source. Told me the same thing as Dave was saying. I have another caller saying same thing as well. We hear it so many times… here we are Friday… said to be tonight… said to be tomorrow and the Sunday Monday we are frustrated.

This is some of the most confirming news I have had.

Dave: You know who I speak with and some you don’t know. All 3 are in harmony with what it is that you are hearing and what it is that Tony is hearing. Not similar – just about spot on.

Dan: Tony and I have battled with this and with the mods and Dave as well… sometimes feel like our intel knows each other… Okie saying same thing…. Etc. I will tell you that Dave’s contacts are different than mine and mine different than Tony.

One guy said it was done at 12 midnight Baghdad time. I don’t want to get someone too excited but this is a little more than normal.

Tony: I am reading texts while we are talking. One now from our guy with UST and it is saying – all agreed upon. Will go international will be seen Monday morning. Iraq said to help with the US they are going live Monday. They are helping us not the other way around.

Dave: I don’t know about helping us…. Yes on this call… but in keeping with that. I heard that despite the ping pong match that we are seeing in our govt right now that there has been a lot of stalling and speculation that this rv is tied to our budget… cause of this ping pong match that is what has stalled this out to some degree. We’ve heard that regardless of whether there has been a hard decision by the us govt to do it the Iraqi govt has decided to go ahead and do it.

Tony: Text says – they said to hell with us they are going live Monday. Just got that now. That’s what came out of the meeting. Like all the confirmation. All 3 on the same page.

Dave: Will like it even better if shows up on the bank side.

Tony: This is great news. Great confirmation. Did hear earlier it was announced over there. Not sure that it was. But throughout this afternoon hearing one confirmation after another that it should be seen tomorrow or Monday. This is coming from some very credible people. We see light at the end of the tunnel.

Dan: Looking like… smelling like… maybe it is…

Tony: Want me to pull out some champagne and light a cigar

Dan: I am excited. But I am going to look at it like there may still be some work to do. If this goes or not…. We will have some work to do. Emotionally etc…,

Sure not trying to be negative. Let’s hop that it is over. What are your plans for Monday if it is? Think about that and write down what you are going to do first… setting up an llc… a trust…. Think about money and an emotional response… trying to create a group of people who can do a lot of good things. Every negative and every positive aspect of your life is about to be magnified. Let‘s pop some common sense…. Some of us will be broke in a year or 2 or 3….

Tony: Only ? I have is you tell them to celebrate but I can’t have a cigar?

Dan: Cause they might celebrate more reasonably.

Tony: Everything Dan said is true. But this is going to be a change in your life. I will try to help you along… as will Dan and explain some things and hopefully some of these calls you can bring your family members on. I have seen people lose their family members over $$. Educate your family members as well as you how to take care of the $$...

Some people saying we will see it tomorrow. One from UST said Monday. So Saturday, Sunday or Monday , let’s just see it.

Dan: For those of you that are saying that we shouldn’t talk about the emotional stuff etc. those should worry the most.

Tony: All this information ahs come in in the last 2 hours. Have been bombarded with this type of information. Have a great weekend. Not disappointed if not there tomorrow. Will look for Monday. If something really exciting happens we’ll send a text and do this again.

Dan: May hear more before we go to bed. If so we may put together something. No texts from us after 12 est unless for sure an rv but may jump onto chat…… nothing would tickle us better than to put this to bed.

Dave thanks for being on the call. Everybody have a great weekend!

Time to take a break. Be back later........ I'm so excited!!!!!!!

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I see it a different way.

A down grade would mean the end of our currency reserve status. It wouldn't end right away but china would push the button to sell off the remaining 2.8 trillion dollars of US treasury bonds it has to ensure the US could not recover. They would then be more than likely the next in line to hold the currency reserve as the closest economic rivial to the US. Next would be all the currency unpegging from the US dollar which includes the Iraqi Dinar. All of the currencies would then be repegged to whom ever holds the currency reserve. All within a few days. The US then is left with rising inflation and interest rates with no way to print itself out of it. And almost immediatly after the loss of the currency reserve, gas prices will double as a penalty from the reserve loss. Because of the massive leverage in our financial system, the probability of our markets haveing any kind of stability will be nill. Certainly will cause mass panic, and will eventually lead to a martial law system.

Of course this is doom and gloom for the united states and the dollar, but for us dinar holders, it gets better. Hang on.

You are hanging on to another countries currency, and if the sh** hits the fan around here economically, then thats a good currency to have in your pocket.

So while you see this as a bad thing for the Dinar, I only see it as a bad thing for the US. What is money and where does it get its value? Is it gold or silver, and who and how is the worth calculated? Supply and demand? Well, Iraq still has massive reserves of oil. And it will be king, and that makes this investment the best financial decision any one person could make:)

Plan on the worst, and hope for the best:)

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2010 - a GOOD YEAR for a CLEAN SWEEP.

Is this a typo and suppose to be 2012?

Either way, lets CLEAN house!!!!!

Let me tell you Wiz, if we default and how it looks the GOP/Tea Drinkers who are the going to get the blame. Those old folks are going to make them pay because of this garbage. Tea Party says hold the line, but when it fails people are going to point fingers. Vote 2012, House back in democrats pockets and so is the presidency. John Boehner will be crying again for real. Enough is enough.

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My opinion has always been ---no one with more than 1 million dollars in assets should be allowed to run for any political office if they have more than that then they have lost touch with the general population and what it takes to earn 1 million dollars--can they truly represent us.---no they can't and they can't make reasonable decisions to operate the country---they have too much time on thier hands

I also believe military service should be required---let them put thier life on the line before our troops are committed to prop up or throw out another government, lastly all PACs and lobbists should be banned --too much money to throw around and no one is sure where it ends up!

JMHO

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You might want to add to your requirements - One term limit of 6 years for congress. Pres 2 term 3 year limit per. Illegal to campaign prior to 90 days before elections, at which time you have a series of debates. Polling is outlawed.

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