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  1. 1. Are you worried about the Collapse of the US Dollar?

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Diesel and fuel will last that long but you need fuel stabilizers (they're pretty cheap). Also if you're using tanks fill them up to where there is a minimum of air in them initially to slow down any breakdown. I'm also looking at large in ground propane tanks, mabye a couple 2500 gallon tanks, as propane is popular in the south as is natural gas, but if it stops flowing you're in trouble. I heard there are some generators that will run on propane/natural gas so a very good option would be to run on nat gas and if it becomes unavail you have a large propane backup.

It's expensive ( more than 25k) , but you could look into an inground diesel tank. My police department had one installed that was a 500 gallon for about 35k I believe. We would need at least three to five times that for an extended run.

Solar may be an option in the South and Southwest if you're on some acreage (possible with a nice dinar score).

Stay safe and pray for the best, while preparing for the worst!

Bad thing about deisel is, it gels at around 9 degrees. If it gels - well it won't run much of anything unless you have additives for Anti-gelling.

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I am just wondering why Aliveandcare is saying silver instead of gold. That is not a meant to be a stupid question, I truly would like to know and understand why! So would really appreciate an answer from them. You hear a lot lately about the dollar losing its value. So would like to make good investments.

It would take me HOURS to explain it all to you.. But the short version is this:

Silver is used in Medical ( hospitals)

Surgical tools and needles

Silver is used in almost all electronics.

It conducts electricity better than gold. In CD players and DVD players, it gives better sound/picture quality

In light switches it is used

It is used in all electronics.

Where silver is not used, gold is. That will not last. Silver is CHEAP. Gold is not. Some people say that gold will go up to 4 or 5k per ounce. I just dont see that happening. I see companies going more towards silver. It is cheaper than gold, and works better than gold.

However, more gold exists in this world than silver.

So, as companies start jumping on silver, it will increase in price drastically.

that is is VERY SHORT version. Like I said. It would take hours to explain it all. But I hope that helps you out on your future google searches, lol.

My dad has a lot of his money in Switz accounts also...... ;) He did say that the US government is cracking down on it though.

They are. But if you hold dual nationality or dual citizenship to both countries, they cannot do a thing to you. Legally, you can move currency from one country to the other if you have citizenship in both. Once your USD goes to EURO or POUNDS. the US gov. has no control over it. Once it is converted into pounds or EURO, you can do whatever you want with it. The US Gov has no authority do penalize you in any way

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I am just wondering why Aliveandcare is saying silver instead of gold. That is not a meant to be a stupid question, I truly would like to know and understand why! So would really appreciate an answer from them. You hear a lot lately about the dollar losing its value. So would like to make good investments.

One reason is simply that silver has many real world uses where gold has few.

Silver is being sold for often less than the cost to mine and produce it up until recently.

The silver supply in the entire world is actually a fraction (sliver really) of the entire worlds gold supply making it far more rare.

Silver has been undervalued for many years.

Due to it's liquid nature it can be traded and sold during cycles to compound your income and ability to purchase more, or even more of other valuable commodities.

There's more reasons but there's a few for you. People think silver around 30.00 per oz is high, LOL just wait... :blink:

Hope this helps!

It would take me HOURS to explain it all to you.. But the short version is this:

Silver is used in Medical ( hospitals)

Surgical tools and needles

Silver is used in almost all electronics.

It conducts electricity better than gold. In CD players and DVD players, it gives better sound/picture quality

In light switches it is used

It is used in all electronics.

Where silver is not used, gold is. That will not last. Silver is CHEAP. Gold is not. Some people say that gold will go up to 4 or 5k per ounce. I just dont see that happening. I see companies going more towards silver. It is cheaper than gold, and works better than gold.

However, more gold exists in this world than silver.

So, as companies start jumping on silver, it will increase in price drastically.

that is is VERY SHORT version. Like I said. It would take hours to explain it all. But I hope that helps you out on your future google searches, lol.

They are. But if you hold dual nationality or dual citizenship to both countries, they cannot do a thing to you. Legally, you can move currency from one country to the other if you have citizenship in both. Once your USD goes to EURO or POUNDS. the US gov. has no control over it. Once it is converted into pounds or EURO, you can do whatever you want with it. The US Gov has no authority do penalize you in any way

Excellent post! I love silver as a natural anti-bacterial, and also audiophile love the capability of silver (laboratory grade) to conduct the "high's" in their music.

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One reason is simply that silver has many real world uses where gold has few.

Silver is being sold for often less than the cost to mine and produce it up until recently.

The silver supply in the entire world is actually a fraction (sliver really) of the entire worlds gold supply making it far more rare.

Silver has been undervalued for many years.

Due to it's liquid nature it can be traded and sold during cycles to compound your income and ability to purchase more, or even more of other valuable commodities.

There's more reasons but there's a few for you. People think silver around 30.00 per oz is high, LOL just wait... :blink:

Hope this helps!

Excellent post! I love silver as a natural anti-bacterial, and also audiophile love the capability of silver (laboratory grade) to conduct the "high's" in their music.

I am really glad that you said that, lol. I keep telling people who talk to me that say they are investing in Gold due to all the commercials.... I tell them NO, go the route of silver. And they look at me like im crazy. Basically they say its 25 or 30 dollars an once and its been like that for 10 years.. My only answer to them is:

Exactly. And do some research and you will hopefully understand.

I am glad you understand Thor.

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Because of the upcoming demand for silver: medical, electronics, rv investors :P, ect. there will be more demand than supply, I have been informed to- NOT get a certificate!! because there will not be enough silver to back these. Get physical silver coins!

Just a thought--Rach

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We've been completely F!ed in this country because of these idiots in charge.

I personally think to be witnesses to a dollar AND euro simultaneous collapse would be, well, quite unbelievable.

I remember growing up and it seemed like the sky was the limit when it came to everything and that times were awesome. Now, I look at my son and think, my god, what struggles will you have in life that I can't even imagine even in this difficult economy.

My wife lived through the financial collapse in the Baltic region after the USSR collapsed. She said that they had these tickets for food and necessities. Any money in your bank account became worthless. The truly wealth people from other countries would come into towns and buy everything up for literally pennies. People sold jewelry that was heirloom jewelry. They'd sell any other precious metals or gems they had. You'd stand in line all day for just a loaf of bread and milk.

The part of it that I'll be very curious to see will be what'll happen with homes. I truly believe that Congress will more than likely pass some type of Anti-Foreclosure law until they sort the crap out, come out with a new currency, and then convert everything over to that new currency. Kind of similar to when the stock market drops beyond a threshold. They shut the system down. If congress doesn't pass the Anti-Foreclosure law, then we'll have thousands of people living on the streets. All apartments will go on freeze as well too. The government will somehow seize any and all utility companies, or pass law that they power peoples homes. Either that, or they'll have Soldiers operate them (big if there).

Unless the president goes over to OPEC and gives them some ridiculous favors, the petrodollar will evaporate. The cost of Oil will more than likely skyrocket, and/or not even show up in the USA.

I think that one of the main reasons that nobody wants to stop what's going on...and I mean seriously stop it., is because nobody really wants to experience the pain that's associated to it. To be a much more "advanced" society. So connected. Computers able to compute things with such accuracy. To forecast easily, etc.That we knew what would happen as a result, and did it anyways. I think that'll be the true tragedy. A few people, that literally screwed an entire country up, knowing the dangers of what they were doing, while we all just stood around and let it happen.

Will things every turn around after that? Yes. How long will it take? Well, we're a pretty amazing society and people. We know if we invent and manufacture we can come up with some of the most amazing things ever. My wife's country took approx. 7-10 years depending on what you look at. And we have much more going on here than their tiny country there. So I really expect it within 3-5 years to be much stronger(assuming that congress lets the market work out the problems). We probably won't be the world's reserve currency anymore, which means our congress will have to keep their spending under control (no more auto-printing-press). At that point, I actually don't think there'll be a new reserve currency. It's my opinion that China will collapse. That they have a lot of hidden debt. The USA knows that if we collapse, they're taking China down with them because China needs that money to cover a lot of its own debt issues. It's definitely a catch 22. So where we collapsed Russia with spending, we'll end up doing the same thing to China. This IMO will prevent China from becoming the next world's reserve currency. And with the condition of the Euro, that's not exactly a hot item right now. Again, there's a lot of my opinion in here.

In conclusion, I'm really hoping that none of this comes true, but I don't really see how it won't. It's like the dinar, it's not a matter of if, but when.

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Yes, and if they default they can break up all the under-funded pension plans that they gave away. My point being that they will use bankrupcy to break their Union contracts. Then renegotiate at a more manageable level. All of which I favor. Save for your own retirement like the rest of us.

I don't necessarily disagree, however when going to work, they was no choice about having money taken out to put into retirement. It happens automatically, whether they wanted it in the big ole retirement fund with everyone else or not. They take their money and they put it into funds they choose and lend as they choose etc etc, has happened to so many. There was also no choice about being taken "out" of Social Security (not that its such a great system or will be around much longer...). Whether like it or not, they are taken off the social security rolls because of being in state retirement. Many said they would have done a much better job with their own money.... but didn't get that vote either lol lol . Pretty much everyone I know on a retirement plan puts in additional retirement money, as they all expect the system that took a healthy chunk of their money every month (much more than SSI), will eventually crash and burn, and they like so many before, will have nothing.

BTW, in California they have already renegotiated the contracts of most the major unions with only one holdout... and I think that will come around soon. The negotiation was for those who are now entering employment.... Changing a standing agreement with a 58 year old person who has 27 years in and who made life and career decisions based upon that agreement, would be a total breach of integrity absent any honor. California also took 15% pay cut across the board,for all state people (oh except I think legislators, atty general and other judiciary).... not sure how that equation was matrixed.... lol lol lol ... If you want to look at a great pension my brothers railroad pension totally rocks... then again those multi million severance pay offs to private corps aren't bad either...

I say real estate.... and will stick to it.... lol

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Good post Shylmysten. I've been shouting this type of information from the rafters for almost two years now but it seems few want to listen. I haven't stopped, but most Americans are in a fog of denial. Somehow, I can only surmise, many feel like our government can fix and do anything. Sadly, the American people will find out how wrong they are when it all does collapse. And it will according to experts, unless something utterly drastic action is undertaken soon (like discarding completely current pension plans and greatly overhauling federal entitlement programs). I just don't see it happening...

The good old United States of America makes very little anymore, and is so anti-business, anti-capitalist that it is truly sad as that is precisely what made us strong and wealthy beyond all other nations--at the very same time we are moving away from capitalism the rest of the world which is failing (Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece, Spain, etc) are moving back to that system. Hell, even China has their own bastardized form of capitalism, though it is largely a smoke screen and the Chinese government has ultimate power to say what can be made and for what price.

We in the USA consume to the level of gluttony though. We grow enough food, we make potato chips and ranch various meats (bovine, fowl, swine, etc.), and we make some cars in an industry so laden with insurmountable, unsustainable pension plans that those industries have been rescued only temporarily--they will fail again in varying degrees. Damned if we do, damned if we don't: if the Unions are called to the carpet and big greedy corporate scoundrels are challenged to show any leadership (by reducing or eliminating those unsustainable pipe dreams), the people in the streets will riot, wanting their fair share of the pie--and I don't completely blame them. If we do nothing and wait for the inevitable collapse, the people will be rioting in the streets. Greedy Corporate scoundrels are stuffing their pockets with multi-million dollar salaries and quarterly bonuses that are many times over larger than most employee yearly wages or salaries, all the while telling the working masses to be "happy" for the tiny (2.1%) yearly raises that don't even cover inflation. And the union bosses keep selling their pipe dreams to get more paying members to stuff their own pockets and pressure the weasels on the corporate ladder to give in to demands that cannot possibly be sustained--but will last just long enough for them to jump out with their golden parachutes. Either way, we'll end up with some socialist or Marxist mixture and the government will run a faux-economy. Everyone will have the basics (shelter, food, clothing), everyone will finally have found their perfect Utopian equality. And everyone will be more unhappy than ever before because the human spirit of growth, and challenge, and creativity, and drive, will have been stripped from their very core. Wake up, there is no free lunch...

Oh, I've said too much. And I hope I am dead wrong. But one thing is certain--government spending must be reigned in, maybe we need a constitutional amendment for a balanced budget? But many in our congress (Senate and House) don't believe in the very Constitution they wore to uphold anyway, so where does that leave us... There I go again digressing...

What a downer I've been. :( I need a Sunday coffee, seriously! Sorry folks, I now return you to your regularly scheduled programming...

Hope this thing RVs in a manner that many espouse it will, and soon...

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so where does this leave Canada in the mixture of all this?

I certainly hope Canada hasn't tied their own nouse by having some sort of under-the-table agreement with the US...

From what I see, if and when the US dollar fails, you'll see a heck of a lot of people coming to Canada for new opportunity.

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Because of the upcoming demand for silver: medical, electronics, rv investors :P, ect. there will be more demand than supply, I have been informed to- NOT get a certificate!! because there will not be enough silver to back these. Get physical silver coins!

Just a thought--Rach

While it's very pricey, do not overlook PLATINUM - there is even less supply out there. Right now about $1800 per troy ounce, but still off its 2008 high of $2300. And it is an industrial metal as well, esp. for the autos. And, one can also buy platinum coins.

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So how do we protect the assets and money that we currently own? What is the solution?

Buy physical silver, get USD converted to Swiss Francs or any other strong currency. Americans CAN open offshore bank accounts, IF you can find a country willing to open one for you. You are required to report it, but you CAN have one.

For those interested in non fuel power production, you may want to investigate magnet motors. They work and require no fuel of any kind. Google it and research what they are, what they do and how to build them or get them.

Buy food stores, they will be very valuable for trade. Rice, beans, flour, sugar, medications, personal care items, etc. when it comes to feeding a family, food and or medicine will be more valuable than currency.

Being prepared and never needing it is FAR better than not being prepared and needing it!

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Its about time someone else understand my line of thinking....Good post

Its going to start with Hyperinflation in USA, then the dollar looses its value... It is then worthless.They then introduce a new currency.....the Amero.

If the USD is replaced with the Amero, what will this do to the ties between Gold/Silver/other precious metal value based on and the dollar?

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If the USD is replaced with the Amero, what will this do to the ties between Gold/Silver/other precious metal value based on and the dollar?

Well, actually. The USD is NOT backed by gold, silver, etc anymore. It hasnt been since the Gold standard days. Currently, the USD is backed by " The full faith and credit of the United States Government."

So, I do not see it having any affect on the metals too much. The Value of Gold silver, etc is backed by nothing more than supply and demand. Some countries still back their currency by it... But the value is really held through supply and demand.

So, with the Amero introduced.... I really dont know what will happen. I have no idea what it will be backed by. However, it would make sense to back it by some rare earth element IMO.

If the dollar collapses, what happens to all the debt that people have; is just wiped off the board? Wouldn't a collapse of the USD lead to a collapse of the job market, economy, retail, banks - basically a complete US collapse?

Well, actually that is already happening. 27 states are going bankrupt now ( the economies, retail, banks, job market, etc in those states). So it really is not that far away. The US is already bankrupt.. They are avoiding hyperinflation and a devalued currency by moving money from one pocket to the other. Basically they are printing more money and buying their own bonds and debts. that is a very short term solution. Eventually it will catch up, and it will be a nightmare almost overnight.

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We put together a few of the key facts. We are interested in hearing from you if you have any contravening information. We always want to understand the other side of the argument... but so far, we haven't learned anything that sways our opinion.

We would urge you to share these facts with anyone you care about.

Here are the top seven factors we believe MUST lead to the end of the global U.S. dollar standard.

  1. The price of gold has gone up for 10 years in a row. We can't think of another market that's ever risen for 10 consecutive years. This is a historical anomaly, and it means something has gone badly wrong with the world's reserve currency (the U.S. dollar). Markets, if left to find their own equilibrium, will naturally fluctuate. Gold isn't fluctuating. Its steady move up proves something strange is happening to our money.
  2. Our government's deficits are out of control. The government's annual deficits now routinely surpass $1 trillion. The first $1 trillion deficit came in 2008 – and the government explained it away as the consequence of the financial crisis. But we racked up another $1 trillion deficit in 2009 and yet another in 2010. We'll have another in 2011 and so on. Our national debt has doubled since 2005. We've borrowed more money in the last five years than we had in the entire history of our government until then. This isn't sustainable.
  3. The government cannot increase tax revenues enough to cover our spending or repay our debts – ever. Our annual deficits have become completely unlinked to taxes. Total federal income taxes and corporate taxes generate $1.1 trillion a year in revenue, and we still ran a $1.3 trillion federal deficit last year. So even if we increased tax revenues by 100%, we would still have fallen $200 million short. This is totally unsustainable.
  4. Special-interest groups – particularly government unions – are looting our Treasury. Self-serving special interest groups have completely hijacked government spending. We now spend $200 billion a year on federal pensions. We're spending another $450 billion on welfare. This spending, combined with our defense spending ($700 billion), exceeds total federal tax revenue and leaves nothing to pay the $200 billion in interest on our debt, nothing to pay for actual government services (like roads), and nothing to pay towards the inevitable Social Security/Medicare shortfall. Remember… most voters do not pay taxes. It's politically impossible to reform this interest group-based spending. These people are robbing the Treasury. They will cause our currency and eventually our government itself to collapse.
  5. We're printing money just like the banana republics we used to mock. To support the government's runaway spending, the Federal Reserve is now continuously buying government debt. This process was commonly called "monetizing the debt" or, more simply, "printing money." The Fed creates new money to buy government bonds. This kind of Ponzi financing destroyed every previous experiment with paper money. If printing money were truly good for an economy, Zimbabwe would be the world's wealthiest country. Perhaps even more worrisome than the practice itself is the leadership of the Fed, which has alternately defended this practice and then denied using it. If the Fed continues this practice, it will eventually cause a global run on the dollar that will destroy the value of our currency overnight.
  6. We can't repay our debts. Total debt outstanding in the U.S. currently exceeds $55 trillion. That's $681,165 in debt per U.S. family. There is simply no way to repay (or even maintain) debt of this magnitude using the income of the average American family, which is slightly less than $50,000 per family. Interest alone on these debts (based on a 5% rate) would total $34,000 per family every year. Total debt in the U.S. economy is unsustainable and can't be financed without printing vast new sums of money.
  7. Shockingly, new debt issuance in the U.S. is soaring, with the lowest-quality debtors borrowing record amounts. Despite all the evidence that the U.S. economy carries far too much debt, both public and private debt issuance soared to new record levels in 2010. Overall, more than $3 trillion in new corporate debt was issued last year – the second record year in a row. And junk-bond issuance set a new, vastly higher record. In 2010, 509 speculative-grade corporate borrowers sold $287 billion worth of new debt. That compares to the previous record (2009) of $167 billion. Our economy has become so warped by its debt load, it cannot function without ever-larger amounts of debt. Anyone looking at these numbers must realize this is not safe and will not last long.

Why No One Else Is Issuing These Warnings

You may read these facts and ask, "Where are the ratings agencies? Why does a small newsletter based in Baltimore, Maryland seem to have the jump on everyone in Washington and most of the people in New York? Why aren't these facts in the newspaper? On the news at night? In magazines?"

The answer: Government spending now makes up more than 40% of our economy. No big business can afford to offend its best customer. And most also depend on the government for protection from competition, in the form of licenses or permits.

Take the ratings agencies. The SEC licenses them, and their business model depends on SEC regulations that require all new debt issues to be rated. The ratings agencies can't say anything bad about the government's finances because a single act of Congress could put them out of business immediately. Listen to what Standard & Poor's said recently about the federal government's deficits and the risk the U.S. faces of losing its world reserve currency status:

The view of markets is that the U.S. will continue to benefit from the exorbitant privilege linked to the U.S. dollar... But that may change. We can't rule out changing the outlook... No triple-A rating is forever.

It's clearly a warning. But it's not specific. And it was issued from an S&P employee in France. Believe me, all of the debt analysts know how much trouble America is really in... but they're not going to say anything. It's a game of "see no evil; hear no evil; speak no evil."

Why? What's the point of everyone keeping his mouth shut?

The government believes the average American won't understand what's happening as the dollar collapses. When prices begin to explode higher (as they are already doing) the government will pin the blame on commodity producers, like oil companies or the big food conglomerates.

No one will notice or care that prices for these commodities are set on global markets and none of these companies has anything close to monopoly pricing power. But the crowd will not care. The crowd will believe anything on the nightly news. NBC, CBS, ABC, and Fox will all go along with the government's line – their broadcast licenses depend on it.

And so, the game will continue. The middle class will be wiped out. The poor will get vastly poorer. And the rich – the folks who own plenty of assets to protect themselves from inflation – will get vastly richer.

What could go wrong?

Well, what about our creditors? Sooner or later our creditors will notice what's really happening. They won't care what Brian Williams or Katie Couric says. And eventually one of our major creditors – China or Japan – will demand some kind of compensation for the decline in the value of the dollar. Or else.

If you're not out of the dollar by then, it will be difficult for you to maintain your wealth. The dollar will collapse almost overnight.

This will happen.

Today, no one believes it could. But our government and private debtors have no other way out. There's simply far too much debt to be financed. It must be inflated away.

We know most of you simply can't believe this forecast. You can't imagine America could suffer the fate of a banana republic. You will look at our numbers. Then look again. You'll re-read our list four or five times. You might even double-check our numbers. (They're right.) But still... you'll tell yourself, something will change. In a few years, these numbers won't look so bad. Or perhaps you'll simply think, "These numbers are so bad and they foretell of such bad times that I simply don't want to think about them."

People often struggle to imagine their lives changing in a profound way. So as a prelude to what's going to happen to the country as a whole... to help you prepare emotionally for what's going to happen... we give you the municipal financial crisis.

And it goes on about 27 states going bankrupt in 2011 and Municipal bondholders being basically screwed and left with worthless paper.

Sounds like Stansberry Report that was posted the other day. Scary!

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Good post Shylmysten. I've been shouting this type of information from the rafters for almost two years now but it seems few want to listen. I haven't stopped, but most Americans are in a fog of denial. Somehow, I can only surmise, many feel like our government can fix and do anything. Sadly, the American people will find out how wrong they are when it all does collapse. And it will according to experts, unless something utterly drastic action is undertaken soon (like discarding completely current pension plans and greatly overhauling federal entitlement programs). I just don't see it happening...

The good old United States of America makes very little anymore, and is so anti-business, anti-capitalist that it is truly sad as that is precisely what made us strong and wealthy beyond all other nations--at the very same time we are moving away from capitalism the rest of the world which is failing (Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece, Spain, etc) are moving back to that system. Hell, even China has their own bastardized form of capitalism, though it is largely a smoke screen and the Chinese government has ultimate power to say what can be made and for what price.

We in the USA consume to the level of gluttony though. We grow enough food, we make potato chips and ranch various meats (bovine, fowl, swine, etc.), and we make some cars in an industry so laden with insurmountable, unsustainable pension plans that those industries have been rescued only temporarily--they will fail again in varying degrees. Damned if we do, damned if we don't: if the Unions are called to the carpet and big greedy corporate scoundrels are challenged to show any leadership (by reducing or eliminating those unsustainable pipe dreams), the people in the streets will riot, wanting their fair share of the pie--and I don't completely blame them. If we do nothing and wait for the inevitable collapse, the people will be rioting in the streets. Greedy Corporate scoundrels are stuffing their pockets with multi-million dollar salaries and quarterly bonuses that are many times over larger than most employee yearly wages or salaries, all the while telling the working masses to be "happy" for the tiny (2.1%) yearly raises that don't even cover inflation. And the union bosses keep selling their pipe dreams to get more paying members to stuff their own pockets and pressure the weasels on the corporate ladder to give in to demands that cannot possibly be sustained--but will last just long enough for them to jump out with their golden parachutes. Either way, we'll end up with some socialist or Marxist mixture and the government will run a faux-economy. Everyone will have the basics (shelter, food, clothing), everyone will finally have found their perfect Utopian equality. And everyone will be more unhappy than ever before because the human spirit of growth, and challenge, and creativity, and drive, will have been stripped from their very core. Wake up, there is no free lunch...

Oh, I've said too much. And I hope I am dead wrong. But one thing is certain--government spending must be reigned in, maybe we need a constitutional amendment for a balanced budget? But many in our congress (Senate and House) don't believe in the very Constitution they wore to uphold anyway, so where does that leave us... There I go again digressing...

What a downer I've been. :( I need a Sunday coffee, seriously! Sorry folks, I now return you to your regularly scheduled programming...

Hope this thing RVs in a manner that many espouse it will, and soon...

I agree with you 100%, and now that you have said it, I don't have to, and I am glad because I'm worn out from having to repeat myself over and again. I don't know if anyone is listening anyway. Why aren't 300 million people saying this? Where is the common sense and the Constitutional Americans in this country? O crap...... here I go again. I'm stopping now. Doesn't take much to pull my string on stupid people with no backbone and aren't worth the powder it would take to blow em to hell, etc., etc., ..... Damn communist, socialist, Marxist scum trying to take our country and the minds of the weaker masses. OK, I'm stopping again, man o man, it easy to get me started, so i am going for more coffee now and watch my dogs fetch a stick.

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This is also my plan!!! :) Good 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! another +1 :) also make shur the home is Energy efficient! Solar, geothermal, ect... prices will rise!!!

It probably want make any difference they will find a way to tax the sun and wind you are using. :angry:

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Just wanted to say thanks to AliveandCare and all the others for answering me back and so quickly. Thanks guys, it certainly makes a whole lot more sense to me now!! AND thanks for not making me feel stupid for asking, you guys are great!!

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Just wanted to say thanks to AliveandCare and all the others for answering me back and so quickly. Thanks guys, it certainly makes a whole lot more sense to me now!! AND thanks for not making me feel stupid for asking, you guys are great!!

No problem at all. Glad to help. Make sure you do your own research and analysis as to what you think will happen and what to invest in post RV. I say Post RV, because I firmly believe it will happen ( based on what I wrote in my 1st or 2nd post on this thread).

If you have any questions at all, feel free to send me a message or just start a thread... We are always just another keyboard away :D

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Sounds like Stansberry Report that was posted the other day. Scary!

Yup and people like him make tons of money off of people that are easily scared. If you want to prepare for a general emergency (Hurricane, Flood, Zombie attack) I would agree that is a good idea. But, if you are burying gold or silver in your bunker in the back yard, then you are going just a bit off the deep end. Is the world in an economic crisis? Sure, but the end of the world as we know it claims aren't anymore accurate than the dozens of other doomsday scenarios that have presented themselves in the past.

Relax, pour a glass of your favorite spirit, light a fine cigar and enjoy this limited time we have on earth.

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