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Med, Mailman & Night chat: Dinar Speculator 11/23/10


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Med says to (16:23:36):

HEY ALL

SO WHAT DID I WALK INTO

A MISSION OF DEPRESSION OR WHAT

sonshine says to (16:24:45):

No, not depressed at all. Full of expectations.

Med says to (16:24:53):

AS YOU ALL SHOULD BE

YOU KNOW I SEE THE SAME QUESTIONS ASKED ALL THE TIME

HECK WITH IT

IF YOU DON’T SEE THAT I CHANGED THE WINDOW I WAS GIVEN

IN THE CHAT’S I GIVE

STOP ASKING

I HAVEN’T CHANGED MY MIND IN 10 MONTHS ON 2010

I HAVEN’T SAID ONE THING ABOUT THE WINDOW

I JUST GAVE OUT OVER THE WEEKEND

THAT IT HAS CHANGED

SOME OF YOU JUMP HOOPS OVER EVERY LITTLE ARTICLE

AND DON’T LET THE DUST SETTLE

TO LOOK AT ALL THE INFO

SO FAR NOTHING AND I MEAN THERE IS NOTHING NEGATIVE OUT THERE ABOUT THE FORMING OF THE GOVT

NOT ONE THING

butterfly says to (16:28:03):

so med…. still think this year? tee hee

Med says to (16:28:12):

EVERYTHING SO FAR IS STILL ON TRACK

OK BRB

JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT I SAID FOR A BIT

Nighthk11 says to (16:32:51):

The 2011 budget is now in parliment for review and ratification- it is 19.5 billion dollars short- a loan to cover this from the IMF will not be forthcomming until Iraq has a tradeable-international currency that has an established value to pay back the loan and a big hello to all

Nighthk11 says to (16:35:11):

We are looking good- 3 turn downs from the IMF means they are no longer playing with Iraq

Med says to (16:35:03):

OK BACK

I WANT EVERYONE TO TAKE A SEAT

FOR A MINUTE

NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT MANY ARE RUNNING IN FEAR

FOR A MULTITUDE OF REASONS

HOUSE

JOB

WHATEVER

MEDICAL

FIRST MISTAKE WAS COUNTING ON THIS AS YOUR LOTTERY TICKET

NO INVESTMENT IS EVER THAT

NOW TO MY TWO SCENARIO’S

IF I WERE TO TELL YOU THAT IN 6 WEEKS ON A SPECIFIC DAY

THE DINAR WAS GOING TO RV FOR SURE….NO IF ANDS OR BUTS

AND IT WAS GOING TO BE .86

WOULD YOU BE HAPPY AND PATIENTLY WAIT?

YES OR NO

OK TWO PEOPLE WOULD BE

WELL 3

OUT OF 5000

WELL ME 4

LOL

SO NOW IF WE KNOW THAT CBI HAS SAID AS SOON AS THE GOVT IS FORMED

THEY ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE NOMINAL VALUE….KNOWING THROUGH MY TWO FRIENDS INTEL THAT THE SMALL DENOMS ARE AT THE CENTRAL BANK AND READY TO BE ISSUED

BUT THAT MALIKI DOESN’T GET IT DONE

AND IT GOES TO ALLAWI

AND HE HAS 14 DAYS TO FORM

WHICH HE SAID HE CAN DO IN SEVEN

BUT LETS USE THE 14

AND WE STILL KNOW THAT CBI IS STILL GOING TO RV AS SOON AS THE GOVT IS FORMED.

SO WE ARE THEN STILL AT 6 WKS

SO WHY WHEN SOMEONE HERE IT MAY TAKE TWO MORE WEEKS AFTER MALIKI DOESN’T WHICH IS 6 WEEKS

DO I HERE OMG IT IS GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER TWO WEEKS

WHEN YOU ALL JUST SAID YOU WOULD WAIT 6 WEEKS IF I COULD GUARANTEE AN RV OF .86 WKS FROM NOW

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE OF CBI TELLING US

THAT THEY ARE GOING TO RV AS SOON AS THE GOVT IS FORMED AND THEY GAVE THE RATE

AND ME SAYING IT

THE GUY HAS RUN A STEADY SHIP

AND MANAGED IT FOR 7 YEARS

AND THERE IS NOTHING IN SHABIBI’S PAST

THAT CAUSES ME TO NOT BELIEVE WHAT HE HAS SAID PUBLICLY

OVER AND OVER AND OVER

STOP LIVING IN FEAR OVER THIS

TAKE CHARGE

AND JUST BELIEVE

IT WILL BE SO MUCH LESS STRESSFUL

I HAVE KNOWN FOR YEARS IT WOULD

NOT WHEN

BUT I KNEW IN MY MIND IT WAS GOING TO

I NEVER WAIVERED ON IT

AND PUT MYSELF THROUGH THESE SENSELESS UPS AND DOWNS

BECAUSE OF AN ARTICLE THAT MAYBE YOU THOUGHT WAS NOT POSITIVE

IT IS THE BIG PICTURE

I AM NOT LOOKING AT THE CRUMBS OFF THE LOAF OF BREAD THAT FELL TO THE FLOOR

I AM LOOKING AT THE LOAF THAT IS STILL SITTING THERE

OK ALL DONE

TY

mailman17 says to (16:56:33):

OK..CLEAR THE AIR

IF MALIKI CANNOT FORM IN 30 DAYS

TALABANI THEN HAS 15 DAYS TO NOMINATE THE NEXT IN LINE…WHO THEN HAS 30 DAYS TO FORM

THATS ACCORDING TO THE IRAQI CONSTITUTION

NOW, DO I THINK IT WILL COME TO THAT?..NO

SO YES…AS I SAID BEFORE…IF ALLAWI JACKS AROUND…WE COULD BE IN FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER 2 MONTHS

I DONT SEE THAT HAPPENING

WHY?

MALIKI SHOULD BE IN FEAR OF HIS LIFE RIGHT NOW, AND HAS BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE MENDS WITH ALL INVOLVED

WITHOUT FEAR OF PROSECUTION

WE SHALL SEE JUST HOW SMNART THIS DUMBASS REALLY IS

OK..DIN DIN

LATER

butterfly says to (17:02:21):

so the break down of time is… Maliki gets the nod thursday, has 30 days, then if he fails, talibani has another 15 days to nominate, then that person has 30 days to form

keep that time line in the back of your minds just as a reminder

as worst case

Nighthk11 says to (17:09:16):

The RV is built into the 2011 budget for Iraq 86 billion 400 million dollars the largest yet- They will receive no monies from the IMF until they reval the currency- Government progress is moving along and should be done shortly- Mahdi- Allawi- Barzani- and Hakim have all been givem assurances to get what they want- whatever deals that have to be made will be- so we are still in good shape

They are still 19.5 billion short for 2011- IMF has indicated a willingness to forward that amount once they adhere to the conditions of addressing the private sector- but have been told no funds without RV- Bernake will not release any amount from DFI or forward a loan to cover their deficit w/out International currency as a way to insure re-payment of monies

Brutus anythoughts I have now is mere speculation but I think a fire has been lit with them because doors are closing in their face

They cannot even fund welfare-

Now contrary to what is in the news- Maliki will make whatever deals he has to to get this done- he is a survivor

There is tremendous pressure on them from IMF-UN-WTO-WB to get this gov’t in place I am told that O will not support protection of their DFI beyond 31 Dec- More Pressure

Now as Med and MM17 stated- the rules may change if Maliki does not get in and they have to start over again- I honestly do not believe the IMF can afford to wait and will intervene to do something with the dinar

mailman17 says to (17:20:30):

NOR DO I

tinkerbelle says to (17:20:58):

do we think for one minute that Maliki will let someone else in as PM????

mailman17 says to (17:21:05):

NO HE WILL BE PM

Nighthk11 says to (17:21:23):

The situation at this point is that important regarding the dinar as most european countries that make up the EU =26 use the dinar as a currency to back their own

mailman17 says to (17:21:36):

HE WILL HAVE TO SUCK IT UP AND CONCEDE THE DEALS ALREADY AGREED UPON

Nighthk11 says to (17:21:56):

Correct MM17 or take the 13 steps to the gallows

mailman17 says to (17:22:03):

NOOSE TIME

Nighthk11 says to (17:23:03):

aside from the pressure- I really believe that they have a full understanding of just how important this is to them and the world and will now perform. Parliment is being held accountable by the new speaker (Sunni) and with the oversight from allawi’s new committie- Maliki will be in check

mailman17 says to (17:24:33):

ESPECIALLY WITH THE NEW SHERRIF IN TOWN..THE POP

Nighthk11 says to (17:25:12):

Once implemented- the dinar on the world market will be strong enough to help stop the slide of the EU and many more countries

mailman17 says to (17:25:15):

HANG IN THERE PEEPS..A LITTLE LONGER

YES IT WILL NIGHT

THE EU NEEDS THIS DESPARATELY TO SURVIVE

Nighthk11 says to (17:26:47):

Yesterday- Maliki has requested parliment expedite the 2011 budget- so he knows- They will not come out and tell us directly folks but their movements indicate a fast track to internationalizing the dinar ASAP

mailman17 says to (17:27:08):

AS THIR BUDGET IS IN DOLLARS

PER SE

EQUIVALENT

WHICH BRINGS US BACK TO THEM BEING ON PAR WITH THE DOLLAR

Nighthk11 says to (17:28:28):

If they comply with the IMF they may just get close to whatever amount they think their money should be worth on the open market- but will still have to abide by IMF rules as they have not developed the private sector as requested

mailman17 says to (17:28:42):

YES’ AND STRICTLY ABIDE BY THEIR OWN FINANCIALS INSTEAD OF WHAT COUNTRIES LIKE KUWAIT WANT

Nighthk11 says to (17:29:21):

It will be enough to stabalize the EU and maby a few cents more- so it’s looking very good to endgame

mailman17 says to (17:29:41):

AGREED

Nighthk11 says to (17:30:06):

correct MM17- 18 months ago if they had followed the IMF advice then they may be in a position to argue a higher rate

mailman17 says to (17:30:17):

HENCE THE NOMINAL VALUE ASPECT

Nighthk11 says to (17:30:27):

exactly

mailman17 says to (17:30:28):

YEP..NOT NOW

Nighthk11 says to (17:31:05):

Whatever it is it will be better than the 5 or 10 cents I envisioned so long ago

mailman17 says to (17:31:09):

THIER FINANCIALS SAY 1-1…MAYBE A BIT MORE

ME TOO…I REMEMBER

Nighthk11 says to (17:31:39):

Yes and that will be just fine with me as I will be all out

mailman17 says to (17:31:40):

YES IT WILL

TEXAS HOLDEM…ALL IN

CANT RAISE ON A ALL IN

Nighthk11 says to (17:32:41):

Now allawi should stop whining and get on board as they are gonna give him some power and stop trying to be a spoiler

But folks I think we are still in a very good spot- either Maliki gets it done- or the IMF will make a decision- seems everyone is outta time because of world developments

So I am surmising with CW’s input we are back to shibibi’s december forcast for an RV

That is with the timeline of events in parliment that is now being discussed- But anything can happen at any moment

Yes CW- they know the position they are in and the importance of getting an established gov’t in place

With a good degree of luck- they may have this gov’t thing wrapped up by EOM so they can RV and beg the IMF for more money

At which point- I will be happy to give them back theirs for greenbacks

Okay outta here for a bit- you good folks take care anmd stay well

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Med, Mailman & Night chat: 11/23/10 5:06pm

Med says to (16:23:36):

HEY ALL

SO WHAT DID I WALK INTO

A MISSION OF DEPRESSION OR WHAT

sonshine says to (16:24:45):

No, not depressed at all. Full of expectations.

Med says to (16:24:53):

AS YOU ALL SHOULD BE

YOU KNOW I SEE THE SAME QUESTIONS ASKED ALL THE TIME

HECK WITH IT

IF YOU DON’T SEE THAT I CHANGED THE WINDOW I WAS GIVEN

IN THE CHAT’S I GIVE

STOP ASKING

I HAVEN’T CHANGED MY MIND IN 10 MONTHS ON 2010

I HAVEN’T SAID ONE THING ABOUT THE WINDOW

I JUST GAVE OUT OVER THE WEEKEND

THAT IT HAS CHANGED

SOME OF YOU JUMP HOOPS OVER EVERY LITTLE ARTICLE

AND DON’T LET THE DUST SETTLE

TO LOOK AT ALL THE INFO

SO FAR NOTHING AND I MEAN THERE IS NOTHING NEGATIVE OUT THERE ABOUT THE FORMING OF THE GOVT

NOT ONE THING

butterfly says to (16:28:03):

so med…. still think this year? tee hee

Med says to (16:28:12):

EVERYTHING SO FAR IS STILL ON TRACK

OK BRB

JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT I SAID FOR A BIT

Nighthk11 says to (16:32:51):

The 2011 budget is now in parliment for review and ratification- it is 19.5 billion dollars short- a loan to cover this from the IMF will not be forthcomming until Iraq has a tradeable-international currency that has an established value to pay back the loan and a big hello to all

Nighthk11 says to (16:35:11):

We are looking good- 3 turn downs from the IMF means they are no longer playing with Iraq

Med says to (16:35:03):

OK BACK

I WANT EVERYONE TO TAKE A SEAT

FOR A MINUTE

NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT MANY ARE RUNNING IN FEAR

FOR A MULTITUDE OF REASONS

HOUSE

JOB

WHATEVER

MEDICAL

FIRST MISTAKE WAS COUNTING ON THIS AS YOUR LOTTERY TICKET

NO INVESTMENT IS EVER THAT

NOW TO MY TWO SCENARIO’S

IF I WERE TO TELL YOU THAT IN 6 WEEKS ON A SPECIFIC DAY

THE DINAR WAS GOING TO RV FOR SURE….NO IF ANDS OR BUTS

AND IT WAS GOING TO BE .86

WOULD YOU BE HAPPY AND PATIENTLY WAIT?

YES OR NO

OK TWO PEOPLE WOULD BE

WELL 3

OUT OF 5000

WELL ME 4

LOL

SO NOW IF WE KNOW THAT CBI HAS SAID AS SOON AS THE GOVT IS FORMED

THEY ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE NOMINAL VALUE….KNOWING THROUGH MY TWO FRIENDS INTEL THAT THE SMALL DENOMS ARE AT THE CENTRAL BANK AND READY TO BE ISSUED

BUT THAT MALIKI DOESN’T GET IT DONE

AND IT GOES TO ALLAWI

AND HE HAS 14 DAYS TO FORM

WHICH HE SAID HE CAN DO IN SEVEN

BUT LETS USE THE 14

AND WE STILL KNOW THAT CBI IS STILL GOING TO RV AS SOON AS THE GOVT IS FORMED.

SO WE ARE THEN STILL AT 6 WKS

SO WHY WHEN SOMEONE HERE IT MAY TAKE TWO MORE WEEKS AFTER MALIKI DOESN’T WHICH IS 6 WEEKS

DO I HERE OMG IT IS GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER TWO WEEKS

WHEN YOU ALL JUST SAID YOU WOULD WAIT 6 WEEKS IF I COULD GUARANTEE AN RV OF .86 WKS FROM NOW

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE OF CBI TELLING US

THAT THEY ARE GOING TO RV AS SOON AS THE GOVT IS FORMED AND THEY GAVE THE RATE

AND ME SAYING IT

THE GUY HAS RUN A STEADY SHIP

AND MANAGED IT FOR 7 YEARS

AND THERE IS NOTHING IN SHABIBI’S PAST

THAT CAUSES ME TO NOT BELIEVE WHAT HE HAS SAID PUBLICLY

OVER AND OVER AND OVER

STOP LIVING IN FEAR OVER THIS

TAKE CHARGE

AND JUST BELIEVE

IT WILL BE SO MUCH LESS STRESSFUL

I HAVE KNOWN FOR YEARS IT WOULD

NOT WHEN

BUT I KNEW IN MY MIND IT WAS GOING TO

I NEVER WAIVERED ON IT

AND PUT MYSELF THROUGH THESE SENSELESS UPS AND DOWNS

BECAUSE OF AN ARTICLE THAT MAYBE YOU THOUGHT WAS NOT POSITIVE

IT IS THE BIG PICTURE

I AM NOT LOOKING AT THE CRUMBS OFF THE LOAF OF BREAD THAT FELL TO THE FLOOR

I AM LOOKING AT THE LOAF THAT IS STILL SITTING THERE

OK ALL DONE

TY

mailman17 says to (16:56:33):

OK..CLEAR THE AIR

IF MALIKI CANNOT FORM IN 30 DAYS

TALABANI THEN HAS 15 DAYS TO NOMINATE THE NEXT IN LINE…WHO THEN HAS 30 DAYS TO FORM

THATS ACCORDING TO THE IRAQI CONSTITUTION

NOW, DO I THINK IT WILL COME TO THAT?..NO

SO YES…AS I SAID BEFORE…IF ALLAWI JACKS AROUND…WE COULD BE IN FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER 2 MONTHS

I DONT SEE THAT HAPPENING

WHY?

MALIKI SHOULD BE IN FEAR OF HIS LIFE RIGHT NOW, AND HAS BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE MENDS WITH ALL INVOLVED

WITHOUT FEAR OF PROSECUTION

WE SHALL SEE JUST HOW SMNART THIS DUMBASS REALLY IS

OK..DIN DIN

LATER

butterfly says to (17:02:21):

so the break down of time is… Maliki gets the nod thursday, has 30 days, then if he fails, talibani has another 15 days to nominate, then that person has 30 days to form

keep that time line in the back of your minds just as a reminder

as worst case

Nighthk11 says to (17:09:16):

The RV is built into the 2011 budget for Iraq 86 billion 400 million dollars the largest yet- They will receive no monies from the IMF until they reval the currency- Government progress is moving along and should be done shortly- Mahdi- Allawi- Barzani- and Hakim have all been givem assurances to get what they want- whatever deals that have to be made will be- so we are still in good shape

They are still 19.5 billion short for 2011- IMF has indicated a willingness to forward that amount once they adhere to the conditions of addressing the private sector- but have been told no funds without RV- Bernake will not release any amount from DFI or forward a loan to cover their deficit w/out International currency as a way to insure re-payment of monies

Brutus anythoughts I have now is mere speculation but I think a fire has been lit with them because doors are closing in their face

They cannot even fund welfare-

Now contrary to what is in the news- Maliki will make whatever deals he has to to get this done- he is a survivor

There is tremendous pressure on them from IMF-UN-WTO-WB to get this gov’t in place I am told that O will not support protection of their DFI beyond 31 Dec- More Pressure

Now as Med and MM17 stated- the rules may change if Maliki does not get in and they have to start over again- I honestly do not believe the IMF can afford to wait and will intervene to do something with the dinar

mailman17 says to (17:20:30):

NOR DO I

tinkerbelle says to (17:20:58):

do we think for one minute that Maliki will let someone else in as PM????

mailman17 says to (17:21:05):

NO HE WILL BE PM

Nighthk11 says to (17:21:23):

The situation at this point is that important regarding the dinar as most european countries that make up the EU =26 use the dinar as a currency to back their own

mailman17 says to (17:21:36):

HE WILL HAVE TO SUCK IT UP AND CONCEDE THE DEALS ALREADY AGREED UPON

Nighthk11 says to (17:21:56):

Correct MM17 or take the 13 steps to the gallows

mailman17 says to (17:22:03):

NOOSE TIME

Nighthk11 says to (17:23:03):

aside from the pressure- I really believe that they have a full understanding of just how important this is to them and the world and will now perform. Parliment is being held accountable by the new speaker (Sunni) and with the oversight from allawi’s new committie- Maliki will be in check

mailman17 says to (17:24:33):

ESPECIALLY WITH THE NEW SHERRIF IN TOWN..THE POP

Nighthk11 says to (17:25:12):

Once implemented- the dinar on the world market will be strong enough to help stop the slide of the EU and many more countries

mailman17 says to (17:25:15):

HANG IN THERE PEEPS..A LITTLE LONGER

YES IT WILL NIGHT

THE EU NEEDS THIS DESPARATELY TO SURVIVE

Nighthk11 says to (17:26:47):

Yesterday- Maliki has requested parliment expedite the 2011 budget- so he knows- They will not come out and tell us directly folks but their movements indicate a fast track to internationalizing the dinar ASAP

mailman17 says to (17:27:08):

AS THIR BUDGET IS IN DOLLARS

PER SE

EQUIVALENT

WHICH BRINGS US BACK TO THEM BEING ON PAR WITH THE DOLLAR

Nighthk11 says to (17:28:28):

If they comply with the IMF they may just get close to whatever amount they think their money should be worth on the open market- but will still have to abide by IMF rules as they have not developed the private sector as requested

mailman17 says to (17:28:42):

YES’ AND STRICTLY ABIDE BY THEIR OWN FINANCIALS INSTEAD OF WHAT COUNTRIES LIKE KUWAIT WANT

Nighthk11 says to (17:29:21):

It will be enough to stabalize the EU and maby a few cents more- so it’s looking very good to endgame

mailman17 says to (17:29:41):

AGREED

Nighthk11 says to (17:30:06):

correct MM17- 18 months ago if they had followed the IMF advice then they may be in a position to argue a higher rate

mailman17 says to (17:30:17):

HENCE THE NOMINAL VALUE ASPECT

Nighthk11 says to (17:30:27):

exactly

mailman17 says to (17:30:28):

YEP..NOT NOW

Nighthk11 says to (17:31:05):

Whatever it is it will be better than the 5 or 10 cents I envisioned so long ago

mailman17 says to (17:31:09):

THIER FINANCIALS SAY 1-1…MAYBE A BIT MORE

ME TOO…I REMEMBER

Nighthk11 says to (17:31:39):

Yes and that will be just fine with me as I will be all out

mailman17 says to (17:31:40):

YES IT WILL

TEXAS HOLDEM…ALL IN

CANT RAISE ON A ALL IN

Nighthk11 says to (17:32:41):

Now allawi should stop whining and get on board as they are gonna give him some power and stop trying to be a spoiler

But folks I think we are still in a very good spot- either Maliki gets it done- or the IMF will make a decision- seems everyone is outta time because of world developments

So I am surmising with CW’s input we are back to shibibi’s december forcast for an RV

That is with the timeline of events in parliment that is now being discussed- But anything can happen at any moment

Yes CW- they know the position they are in and the importance of getting an established gov’t in place

With a good degree of luck- they may have this gov’t thing wrapped up by EOM so they can RV and beg the IMF for more money

At which point- I will be happy to give them back theirs for greenbacks

Okay outta here for a bit- you good folks take care anmd stay well

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cudos to med for that speech!! i couldnt have said it better....

I, like allot of other in this forum have been sitting on this dinar since 2004 people!!! and havent once doubted that this day was comming!

so like everyone in this post said! stay strong and stay faithful! we are now at the cusp of what we have all been waiting for..... dont give up hope now..

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DID CBI SAY THEY WILL RV AS SOON AS THE GOV IS SEATED? OR DID THEY SAY THE GOV HAS TO BE SEATED BEFORE THEY COULD RV?

Very good question........I wish I had bookmarked one of these articles so that I could aswer myself!

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I'd love to see any article clearly stating this. All I recall is lots of guru speculation. Anyone?

If we're all hanging our hats on the RV rate being in the budget, then I'd love to see an article or quote from a GOI/CBI stating it clearly. Again - anyone or does the silence mean we're all relying on the words of gurus who've yet to be right?

GO RV!!!!

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