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This was an email I received from NG...Very informative...well worth reading...Ron :twothumbs:

 

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Iran Has Been at War with America for 40 Years

Iran Has Been at War with America for 40 Years

President Trump today gave the most honest, direct speech about the Iranian dictatorship that has ever given by an American President. It was a refreshing break from the lies and self-deception which have characterized much of the American establishment’s efforts to avoid thinking about it.


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Watching the various reactions to the killing of Gen. Qasem Soleimani, I have been struck by how historically ignorant most politicians and commentators are – and how our political-diplomatic language and mindset block us from reality.

The reality is: The Iranian dictatorship has been waging war against the United States for more than 40 years.

I was a freshman in Congress in 1979 when the Shah Pahlavi was overthrown, and the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini became the dictator of Iran. Khomeini maneuvered brilliantly from Paris to Teheran. He gave the Jimmy Carter Administration smooth reassurances that he feared the Americans too much to be a threat. Once he won, however, Khomeini was quite clear about his hostility to the United States. For the last 40 years, I have watched the Iranian dictatorship wage war on America.

On November 4, 1979 protestors chanting “Death to America” seized the United States Embassy in complete violation of international law. Host governments have an obligation to protect embassies. But, in fact, the Iranian dictatorship used the embassy seizure to pressure the United States. When it was clear President Carter would not respond forcefully to the attack on our embassy and the hostage taking, Ayatollah Khomeini said “the Americans can’t do a damn thing against us,” which became a slogan in Iran.

I have listened to a Carter Administration official who had been in the negotiations with Khomeini’s new dictatorship. The United States offered economic aid, offered to fulfill its military contracts, promised to supply the parts for the American military equipment Iran already had. On every offer, the Iranians responded that they didn’t care about any of that. They wanted the US to turn over the Shah, who was in exile the US and dying of cancer, so they could try him and kill him in public. The hostility was implacable and unyielding. Further, “Death to America Day,” became a national holiday in Iran in 1987 commemorating the anniversary of the seizing of the American Embassy.

This attitude of American weakness persisted for 40 years and, as Clifford May reported for The Washington Times, “Indeed, on Jan. 1, in response to Mr. Trump’s vow to hold Iran’s rulers 'fully responsible’ for any lives lost at the besieged Baghdad embassy, the supreme leader’s official website proclaimed: “There is no damn thing you can do.”

Despite every effort of the Carter Administration, the 52 American hostages were held for 444 days and released only as Ronald Reagan was sworn in as president. I remember sitting on the platform at the Capitol for Reagan’s inauguration and hearing that the hostages had been released. It was an electrifying moment. The Iranians knew they had to take whatever concessions they had gained from the Carter Administration through the Algiers Accord and release the hostages, because Reagan wouldn’t have given in to any of their demands. He would have saved the hostages and inflicted a high cost on the Iranians.

Still emboldened by what they saw as long-time American weakness under the Carter Administration, Iranian attacks on America continued.

As Orde Kittrie has reported for the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, U.S. courts found Iran responsible for:

“A Hezbollah truck bomb that killed 63 people in April 1983 at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, including 17 Americans.

“A second Hezbollah truck bomb that destroyed a U.S. Marines barracks in Beirut in October 1983, killing 241 U.S. service members.

“[And] Hezbollah’s abduction and torture in Lebanon throughout the 1980s of U.S. citizens working in Beirut, including two journalists, a priest, and three administrators of educational institutions.”

On January 19, 1984, President Reagan’s State Department listed the Iranian Dictatorship as a State Sponsor of Terrorism. This designation has been maintained for 36 years of continuous Iranian support for terror.

The most famous example of the Iranian use of a surrogate was Imad Mughniyeh, who operated in Lebanon. He reported to Qasem Soleimani who as chief of the Quds Force, the most militant and aggressive wing of The Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps.

Mughniyeh was the planner behind the killing of 241 Marines in Beirut in 1983. He was ultimately killed in a joint US-Israeli operation but only after he had terrorized and killed a remarkable number of people.

When the Marines were killed in Lebanon, President Reagan rejected an all-out effort to control that country. He was focused on defeating the Soviet Union and did not want to disperse his resources.

However, when the Iranian Dictatorship interpreted this as weakness (in the Carter tradition) it learned an expensive lesson. In April 1988, the Iranians hit an American warship with a mine and injured 10 sailors. In a sharp skirmish, the United States destroyed much of the Iranian Navy. They never challenged Reagan again.

After Reagan, the United States took a relatively passive view about Iranian provocations. The Iranians just kept working to expand their terrorist network.

As a result, the scale of the Iranian efforts to fund terrorists and create satellite states they can control is far greater than most Americans think.

Statista’s Niall McCarthy reported that the Soufan Center's research shows where Iranian money is flowing in the Middle East and where Iranian-backed proxies and militant groups are active. Syrian proxies receive an estimated $6 billion annually of economic aid, subsidized oil, commodity transfers, and military aid. Iraq receives up to $1 billion, some of which ends up in the hands of militia organizations. Lebanon, which is of course home to Hezbollah, sees around $700 million of financial support – practically all of which goes to the militant group. Yemen receives $100 million a year. Afghanistan militants get $2 million annually. Various groups in Gaza including Hamas get about $100 million a year. This is the scale of activity Soleimani was managing in addition to direct Iranian assets.

Furthermore, the Iranian dictatorship’s war against America has not been restricted to the Middle East.

According to Kittrie with FDD, “U.S. federal courts have, over the last two decades, issued some 92 judgments finding the Iranian government and its officials liable for acts of terrorism that claimed American victims." These judgements amount to $53 billion, including $1 billion against the Ali Khamenei (the current Supreme Leader of Iran) for his responsibility in authorizing the attacks.

In fact, the deadliest anti-American terrorist act of our lifetime has an Iranian component. To quote Kittrie again:

“The September 11, 2001 attacks that killed some 3,000 people. In December 2011, a U.S. District Court found the Iranian government and Khamenei himself among those responsible. The court’s lengthy opinion included extensive evidence that the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps had provided ‘funding and/or training for terrorism operations targeting American citizens, including support for Hizballah and al Qaeda’ and evidence that IRGC activities were controlled by Khamenei. The opinion also quoted from the 9/11 Commission report that ‘Iran furnished material and direct support’ for travel for at least eight of the hijackers. The Iranian government, Khamenei, and the other defendants have thus far been ordered to pay over $16 billion in compensatory and punitive damages to the victims.”

I was Speaker of the House when the Iranians deliberately targeted and killed 19 American service men in a truck bombing in Saudi Arabia in 1996. According to Kittrie, a federal judge found the attack was “approved by Ayatollah Khamenei, the Supreme Leader of Iran at the time.”

I remember getting the phone call from President Bill Clinton about the disaster. Yet, despite help from Saudi intelligence, the Clinton Administration wanted to avoid proving the Iranians did it. In fact, then-FBI Director Louis Freeh was so frustrated by the Clinton Administration refusal to pressure the Saudis to allow a full scale FBI investigation, he turned to former President George H. W. Bush to get him to ask his friends in Saudi Arabia to help.

After the Clinton Administration’s failure to respond to the killing of Americans at Khobar Towers, the Iranian support for attacking Americans continued.

In August 1998, Iranian-backed truck bombings at U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania killed 300 people and wounded more than 5,000. Then, in October 2000, 17 American sailors were killed when Iranian proxies bombed the USS Cole in Yemen

When Clinton left office, President George W. Bush was fully absorbed by the war in Iraq.

Then, President Barack Obama had a fantastical vision of an American-Iranian relationship, which would stabilize the region. He ignored their terrorist activities, sent them $1.7 billion in cash, and promised to help release $150 billion in frozen or sanctioned Iranian assets through the faulty Iran nuclear deal.

Given their experience of dealing with strong words but passive policies from some American leaders, the Iranian dictatorship thought President Trump would be more of the same.

As May wrote for The Washington Times:

“On Monday, Gen. Soleimani’s replacement, Gen. Esmail Ghaani, vowed ‘to remove the American presence from the region’ and help bring about the ‘global rule of the Hidden Imam,’ a messiah figure in Shia Islam, one whose will is done through the supreme leader. Yahya Rahim-Safavi, a senior adviser to Ayatollah Khamenei, vowed the U.S. would leave the Middle East 'in disgrace and defeat.’”

Today’s speech by President Trump is a good warning that the Iranian dictators are misjudging Trump as much as they misjudged Reagan.

We may finally be on a path to ending the 40-year war.

Your Friend,
Newt

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Yes this is interesting... But go back a bit further and understand that Iran had a democratically elected government prior to the Shah.. The Shah was an evil dictator who we supported to overthrow the elected government and the people hated it. They hated the Shah and in turn they hated us for nation building... Then the religious leaders took over.

 

 

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1 hour ago, ronscarpa said:

Iran Has Been at War with America for 40 Years

Iran Has Been at War with America for 40 Years

President Trump today gave the most honest, direct speech about the Iranian dictatorship that has ever given by an American President. It was a refreshing break from the lies and self-deception which have characterized much of the American establishment’s efforts to avoid thinking about it.


This week in Newt's Inner Circle

Join Newt's Inner Circle>>


Watching the various reactions to the killing of Gen. Qasem Soleimani, I have been struck by how historically ignorant most politicians and commentators are – and how our political-diplomatic language and mindset block us from reality.

The reality is: The Iranian dictatorship has been waging war against the United States for more than 40 years.

I was a freshman in Congress in 1979 when the Shah Pahlavi was overthrown, and the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini became the dictator of Iran. Khomeini maneuvered brilliantly from Paris to Teheran. He gave the Jimmy Carter Administration smooth reassurances that he feared the Americans too much to be a threat. Once he won, however, Khomeini was quite clear about his hostility to the United States. For the last 40 years, I have watched the Iranian dictatorship wage war on America.

On November 4, 1979 protestors chanting “Death to America” seized the United States Embassy in complete violation of international law. Host governments have an obligation to protect embassies. But, in fact, the Iranian dictatorship used the embassy seizure to pressure the United States. When it was clear President Carter would not respond forcefully to the attack on our embassy and the hostage taking, Ayatollah Khomeini said “the Americans can’t do a damn thing against us,” which became a slogan in Iran.

I have listened to a Carter Administration official who had been in the negotiations with Khomeini’s new dictatorship. The United States offered economic aid, offered to fulfill its military contracts, promised to supply the parts for the American military equipment Iran already had. On every offer, the Iranians responded that they didn’t care about any of that. They wanted the US to turn over the Shah, who was in exile the US and dying of cancer, so they could try him and kill him in public. The hostility was implacable and unyielding. Further, “Death to America Day,” became a national holiday in Iran in 1987 commemorating the anniversary of the seizing of the American Embassy.

This attitude of American weakness persisted for 40 years and, as Clifford May reported for The Washington Times, “Indeed, on Jan. 1, in response to Mr. Trump’s vow to hold Iran’s rulers 'fully responsible’ for any lives lost at the besieged Baghdad embassy, the supreme leader’s official website proclaimed: “There is no damn thing you can do.”

Despite every effort of the Carter Administration, the 52 American hostages were held for 444 days and released only as Ronald Reagan was sworn in as president. I remember sitting on the platform at the Capitol for Reagan’s inauguration and hearing that the hostages had been released. It was an electrifying moment. The Iranians knew they had to take whatever concessions they had gained from the Carter Administration through the Algiers Accord and release the hostages, because Reagan wouldn’t have given in to any of their demands. He would have saved the hostages and inflicted a high cost on the Iranians.

Still emboldened by what they saw as long-time American weakness under the Carter Administration, Iranian attacks on America continued.

As Orde Kittrie has reported for the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, U.S. courts found Iran responsible for:

“A Hezbollah truck bomb that killed 63 people in April 1983 at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, including 17 Americans.

“A second Hezbollah truck bomb that destroyed a U.S. Marines barracks in Beirut in October 1983, killing 241 U.S. service members.

“[And] Hezbollah’s abduction and torture in Lebanon throughout the 1980s of U.S. citizens working in Beirut, including two journalists, a priest, and three administrators of educational institutions.”

On January 19, 1984, President Reagan’s State Department listed the Iranian Dictatorship as a State Sponsor of Terrorism. This designation has been maintained for 36 years of continuous Iranian support system" rel="">support for terror.

The most famous example of the Iranian use of a surrogate was Imad Mughniyeh, who operated in Lebanon. He reported to Qasem Soleimani who as chief of the Quds Force, the most militant and aggressive wing of The Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps.

Mughniyeh was the planner behind the killing of 241 Marines in Beirut in 1983. He was ultimately killed in a joint US-Israeli operation but only after he had terrorized and killed a remarkable number of people.

When the Marines were killed in Lebanon, President Reagan rejected an all-out effort to control that country. He was focused on defeating the Soviet Union and did not want to disperse his resources.

However, when the Iranian Dictatorship interpreted this as weakness (in the Carter tradition) it learned an expensive lesson. In April 1988, the Iranians hit an American warship with a mine and injured 10 sailors. In a sharp skirmish, the United States destroyed much of the Iranian Navy. They never challenged Reagan again.

After Reagan, the United States took a relatively passive view about Iranian provocations. The Iranians just kept working to expand their terrorist network.

As a result, the scale of the Iranian efforts to fund terrorists and create satellite states they can control is far greater than most Americans think.

Statista’s Niall McCarthy reported that the Soufan Center's research shows where Iranian money is flowing in the Middle East and where Iranian-backed proxies and militant groups are active. Syrian proxies receive an estimated $6 billion annually of economic aid, subsidized oil, commodity transfers, and military aid. Iraq receives up to $1 billion, some of which ends up in the hands of militia organizations. Lebanon, which is of course home to Hezbollah, sees around $700 million of financial support system" rel="">support – practically all of which goes to the militant group. Yemen receives $100 million a year. Afghanistan militants get $2 million annually. Various groups in Gaza including Hamas get about $100 million a year. This is the scale of activity Soleimani was managing in addition to direct Iranian assets.

Furthermore, the Iranian dictatorship’s war against America has not been restricted to the Middle East.

According to Kittrie with FDD, “U.S. federal courts have, over the last two decades, issued some 92 judgments finding the Iranian government and its officials liable for acts of terrorism that claimed American victims." These judgements amount to $53 billion, including $1 billion against the Ali Khamenei (the current Supreme Leader of Iran) for his responsibility in authorizing the attacks.

In fact, the deadliest anti-American terrorist act of our lifetime has an Iranian component. To quote Kittrie again:

“The September 11, 2001 attacks that killed some 3,000 people. In December 2011, a U.S. District Court found the Iranian government and Khamenei himself among those responsible. The court’s lengthy opinion included extensive evidence that the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps had provided ‘funding and/or training for terrorism operations targeting American citizens, including support system" rel="">support for Hizballah and al Qaeda’ and evidence that IRGC activities were controlled by Khamenei. The opinion also quoted from the 9/11 Commission report that ‘Iran furnished material and direct support system" rel="">support’ for travel for at least eight of the hijackers. The Iranian government, Khamenei, and the other defendants have thus far been ordered to pay over $16 billion in compensatory and punitive damages to the victims.”

I was Speaker of the House when the Iranians deliberately targeted and killed 19 American service men in a truck bombing in Saudi Arabia in 1996. According to Kittrie, a federal judge found the attack was “approved by Ayatollah Khamenei, the Supreme Leader of Iran at the time.”

I remember getting the phone call from President Bill Clinton about the disaster. Yet, despite help from Saudi intelligence, the Clinton Administration wanted to avoid proving the Iranians did it. In fact, then-FBI Director Louis Freeh was so frustrated by the Clinton Administration refusal to pressure the Saudis to allow a full scale FBI investigation, he turned to former President George H. W. Bush to get him to ask his friends in Saudi Arabia to help.

After the Clinton Administration’s failure to respond to the killing of Americans at Khobar Towers, the Iranian support system" rel="">support for attacking Americans continued.

In August 1998, Iranian-backed truck bombings at U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania killed 300 people and wounded more than 5,000. Then, in October 2000, 17 American sailors were killed when Iranian proxies bombed the USS Cole in Yemen

When Clinton left office, President George W. Bush was fully absorbed by the war in Iraq.

Then, President Barack Obama had a fantastical vision of an American-Iranian relationship, which would stabilize the region. He ignored their terrorist activities, sent them $1.7 billion in cash, and promised to help release $150 billion in frozen or sanctioned Iranian assets through the faulty Iran nuclear deal.

Given their experience of dealing with strong words but passive policies from some American leaders, the Iranian dictatorship thought President Trump would be more of the same.

As May wrote for The Washington Times:

“On Monday, Gen. Soleimani’s replacement, Gen. Esmail Ghaani, vowed ‘to remove the American presence from the region’ and help bring about the ‘global rule of the Hidden Imam,’ a messiah figure in Shia Islam, one whose will is done through the supreme leader. Yahya Rahim-Safavi, a senior adviser to Ayatollah Khamenei, vowed the U.S. would leave the Middle East 'in disgrace and defeat.’”

Today’s speech by President Trump is a good warning that the Iranian dictators are misjudging Trump as much as they misjudged Reagan.

We may finally be on a path to ending the 40-year war.

Your Friend,
Newt

 

Still hits home to me like yesterday.

 

I registered for the draft in 1981 after the registration was reinstated in 1980. Iran more than Afghanistan was weighing on mine and everyone else's mind. Sure, I would have fought in ANOTHER unpopular war like Vietnam. Unlike Vietnam, the radical Islamists dehumanize THEIR captives by sodomizing them AND torturing them making Vietnam look mild by comparison. Known back then by sources OTHER THAN ME. Lawrence Of Arabia had dehumanizing experiences that traumatized him for the rest of HIS life. I want to ensure ALL are spared of such dehumanizing experiences.

 

Should have made Iran a "glass" "pancake" AS THEE "common" "sentiments" RAN BECAUSE:

 

Image result for the ayatollah is an assahola

 

The Carter Administration is clearly the culprit behind the forty (40) years war without a doubt and for which THIS, among a host of OTHER THINGS, demonstrates the man to be at least incompetent, without ANY honor, and the reason for the subsequent loss of life from the terrorist actors back then like Qasem Soleimani. I could have been included in the 241 Marines who lost THEIR lives in Beruit, Lebanon. ANY one of THEM could have been me compliments of the man.

 

It is said a person's view of THEIR country forms when THEY are twelve (12) years old. I wasn't twelve long to watch the last helicopter leave the Saigon The United States Of America Embassy on TV. Not a retreat. Just quitting in my mind. NOT the Vietnam Service Persons EITHER. I am NOT a quitter. NEITHER are the Vietnam Service Persons. I, to this day, identify more THAT Vietnam Veterans as being honored warriors since THAT was my first recollection of REAL conflict. I will Thank Service Persons for THEIR Service to our Country. The Vietnam Veterans are ALWAYS the most appreciative of my honoring THEM. I was passing through a rest stop the other day, did my business, washed my hands, AND THEN noticed a Vietnam Veteran standing in line (wearing the service cap noting HIS service). I walked up to HIM, smiled, and said, "Thank You for Your service to Our Country. Welcome Back. Welcome Home" while I shook HIS hand. He looked at me like he'd been treated like a Second Class Service Person ALL HIS life with a sense of gratitude SOMEONE had honored HIM. He said, "Thanks, that means a lot to me" as I was walking away. I spun around and said, "You mean a lot to me."

 

Still makes my blood boil to this day to see how Vietnam Service Persons were treated. A draft while some volunteered. Anyway a person looks at it, THESE Service Persons ARE TO BE HONORED AT ALL TIMES LIKE ALL HONORABLY DISCHARGED VETERANS AND ACTIVE SERVICE MEMBERS.

 

What I didn't realize then is the country forms THEIR opinion of twelve year olds by the same circumstances like being quit on - by some at least. NOT a plea for sympathy in ANY regard just understanding folks +/- a year or so in my age group are viewed as a tolerated nuisance, or throw aways, or discards being on the back end of the Baby Bummer, er, BOOMER era with no credentials or say in critical matters at hand ESPECIALLY regarding one's self.

 

No problem.

 

I smile and stay in the fight NO MATTER WHAT THE COST. The Ones who paid forward the ultimate price for me to pay forward for future generations is ALL I need to stay in the fight.

 

YYYEEEAAAHHH BBBAAABBBYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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In 1951, Mohammed Mossadegh was brought to power after being elected as prime minister by nearly all members of the Majlis (parliament) in Iran. His first act in office was to take control of the oil industry in Iran which had been controlled by Great Britain. Most of Britain's oil was pumped from Iran at the time. This move was seen as a danger to Great Britain's security and empire, so they tried to overthrow the government but failed. After this they convinced the United States through diplomacy that the government of Iran was a communist threat.

The CIA worked in Iran to create riots which led to the removal of Prime Minister Mossadegh. The United States and Great Britain then made the Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi King of Iran, again.

The Shah ruled in Iran for 38 years. When he left Iran the Iranian government was changed to an Islamic Republic by Islamic Revolution. Soon afterwards, Iranian Students Movement (Tahkim Vahdat), with the backing of the new government took over the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and held most of the diplomats hostage for 444 days. Relations between the two countries have not been good since. For example. The US has imposed various types of economic sanctions against Iran. The US claims the Iran supports terrorist groups against Israel. Iran does not recognize Israel as a state. Iran, along with most Arab countries believe that Israel does not have the right to occupy the land of Palestinians.

Iran has long borders in common with Iraq. (The words "Iran" and "Iraq" are similar only in Latin alphabet. In Arabic and Persian, they are written differently.) Iranians are ethnically not Arabs. Iran defended itself against Iraqi invasion in 1980, a war that lasted eight years. Many Arab and Western countries, including the United States provided weapons (including biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction) and technical support for Iraq's Saddam Hussein.

 

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1 hour ago, bostonangler said:

The US claims the Iran supports terrorist groups against Israel. Iran does not recognize Israel as a state. Iran, along with most Arab countries believe that Israel does not have the right to occupy the land of Palestinians.

 

BA, this is a known fact that Iran HAS terrorist militias in Iraq. I won't go into when and why, but suffice it to say they are active in Iraq. I respect your opinions, but there are more ominous powers at work behind the scenes - in every world government.

 

As for Iran and most Arab countries believing that Israel doesn't have a right to occupy the land - it doesnt matter what THEY believe, think or feel - because, Almighty GOD gave them the land of Promise - through Abraham , Isaac & Jacob long before the Palestinians ever existed. It was His to give. Also, it was the British that named the region Palestine. The Arabs now living in the region (Palestinians) were rejected and ejected by all the other Arab countries and didn't want them. It was never their land. And, any Arab/Palestinians living in Israel as Israeli citizens have the same rights as the Jews - no distinction. History as recorded in the Bible (1500 years BC/BCE) & the Q'uran (7th century AD/CE) speak of the promises of God to Abraham. Issues started when the People of the Book (Jews & Christians) rejected Mohammed as a prophet of God bringing enlightment.

 

I won't say any more about the Palestinians at this time. The land was GOD's to give, and He gave it to Israel. The Bible lays out the history of Israel (confirmed by many ancient records), it's rise to prominance under David & Soloman, and Israel's decline because of disobedience and the consequences of worshipping false gods. As a result, they were scattered among the nations, but GOD promised to bring them back in the latter days. All the prophetic markers in the Bible have been met, and Israel has been restored. Even the major events since it restoration as a Nation all conform to prophetic markers in the Scriptures. The Levant, the land of Israel belongs to Israel.

 

Anyway, I'm just an Italian boy from New York who loves & stands by Israel. Plus, I flew 100 recon missions in VietNam, and want to correct Synopsis' politically correct (really incorrect) comment about Service Persons. They are service men & women.....period. We DETEST politically correct rhetoric and titles.

 

Blessings to you all.....RON :salute:

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2 hours ago, bostonangler said:

Yes this is interesting... But go back a bit further and understand that Iran had a democratically elected government prior to the Shah.. The Shah was an evil dictator who we supported to overthrow the elected government and the people hated it. They hated the Shah and in turn they hated us for nation building... Then the religious leaders took over.

 

 

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Yep....

 

 

Mohammad Mosaddegh

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh

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1 minute ago, ronscarpa said:

 

BA, this is a known fact that Iran HAS terrorist militias in Iraq. I won't go into when and why, but suffice it to say they are active in Iraq. I respect your opinions, but there are more ominous powers at work.

 

As for Iran and most Arab countries believing that Israel doesn't have a right to occupy the land - it doesnt matter what THEY believe, because Almighty GOD gave them the land of Promise - through Abraham , Isaac & Jacob long before the Palestinians ever existed. It was His to give. Also, it was the British that named the region Palestine. The Arabs now living in the region (Palestinians) were rejected and ejected by all the other Arab countries and didn't want them. It was never their land. And, any Arab/Palestinians living in Israel as Israeli citizens have the same rights as the Jews - no distinction. History as recorded in the Bible (1500 years BC/BCE) & the Q'uran (7th century AD/CE) speak of the promises of God to Abraham. Issues started when the People of the Book (Jews & Christians) rejected Mohammed as a prophet of God bringing enlightment.

 

I won't say any more about the Palestinians at this time. The land was GOD's to give, and He gave it to Israel. The Bible lays out the history of Israel (confirmed by many ancient records), it's rise to prominance under David & Soloman, and Israel's decline because of disobedience and the consequences of worshipping false gods. As a result, they were scattered among the nations, but GOD promised to bring them back in the latter days. All the prophetic markers in the Bible have been met, and Israel has been restored. Even the major events since it restoration as a Nation all conform to prophetic markers in the Scriptures. The Levant, the land of Israel belongs to Israel.

 

Anyway, I'm just an Italian boy from New York who loves & stands by Israel. Plus, I flew 100 recon missions in VietNam, and want to correct Synopsis' politically correct (really incorrect) comment about Service Persons. They are service men & women.....period. We DETEST politically correct rhetoric and titles.

 

Blessings to you all.....RON :salute:

 

The problem with Iran goes back to when their elected government was overthrown to put the Shah in power. That's why they hate us. As for Jews and Islamic history that goes back way before America was a country, before there was a Europe. We are certainly never going to change that situation... Only they can find their peace, like Catholics and Protestants have done... Well for the most part.

 

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8 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

The problem with Iran goes back to when their elected government was overthrown to put the Shah in power. That's why they hate us. As for Jews and Islamic history that goes back way before America was a country, before there was a Europe. We are certainly never going to change that situation... Only they can find their peace, like Catholics and Protestants have done... Well for the most part.

 

B/A

 

 

Yep....As for Jews and Islamic (esp. Palestinians)...It's a long and tragic story  much of which relied on the guilt complex of the West for the holocaust ( so nobody felt like saying not even one word to Zionists despite the terror acts against the British and many of the Arab leaders ...)

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_political_violence

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8 minutes ago, ronscarpa said:

Plus, I flew 100 recon missions in VietNam, and want to correct Synopsis' politically correct (really incorrect) comment about Service Persons. They are service men & women.....period. We DETEST politically correct rhetoric and titles.

 

My apologies for ANY offensive remarks regarding Veterans AND Active Service Men & Women, SIR!!!

 

NONE intended.

 

Thank You for Your Service To Our Country, RonScarpa As Well As ALL Veterans AND Active Service Men & Women, Welcome Back, Welcome Home, Well Done!!!

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When I was a Univ. student in Bologna, Italy I got to know a few Iranian students there...

 

One in particular as he was part of my friends circle already...Very bright guy...

 

In the period of major turmoil for the Shah ( He was going mad, ordering police to shoot on gatherings of more than 3 people...) and when infamous Savak (secret police) was committing a lot of atrocities then Shah  decided to finally leave...

 

We know that in the end he got sick etc and then died in Egypt

 

Well...There was a lot of excitement among the Iranian students here in Italy and I guess all over the world....The guy I knew one day told me that things were getting great and he decided to go back  along with others and participate in the revolution ( in the period when Khomeini came back from France)

 

So this person stayed away maybe 2 / 3 months...Then he came back all of a sudden and told us..." I could not believe what we got into...Simply horrible..."

 

He was really traumatized about Khomeini

 

 

He had studied and had lived in Europe and was intelligent...It took him not too long to understand that all the hopes they had put in Imam Khomeini was only a dream turning into a nightmare  ( truth be told)

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Synopsis said:

 

My apologies for ANY offensive remarks regarding Veterans AND Active Service Men & Women, SIR!!!

 

NONE intended.

 

Thank You for Your Service To Our Country, RonScarpa As Well As ALL Veterans AND Active Service Men & Women, Welcome Back, Welcome Home, Well Done!!!

 

No offense taken Synopsis, I was just setting things straight - I always enjoy your comments and opinions - you're an insightful man IMHO. Thank you for your remarks above. I just added you to the comment made by BA that I was responding to. Be blessed my friend. RON 

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BA, UMBERTINO, AND EVERYONE ELSE.....I HOPE YOU TOOK THE TIME TO READ NEWT'S ARTICLE RATHER THAN JUST RESPOND TO THE TOPIC  HEADING....BECAUSE IT SEEMS THAT IS THE CASE.  BLESSINGS.....:salute:  RON

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2 minutes ago, ronscarpa said:

 

No offense taken Synopsis, I was just setting things straight - I always enjoy your comments and opinions - you're an insightful man IMHO. Thank you for your remarks above. I just added you to the comment made by BA that I was responding to. Be blessed my friend. RON 

 

Thank You, Ron!

 

I really enjoy Your insightful and highly respected comments!

 

You, too, be Blessed My Friend!

 

Welcome Back. Welcome Home. Well Done!

 

I am honored to be in a Bible Study with the guy who wrote the lyrics to this song:

 

 

There is another Veteran who served during Vietnam in the same Bible Study.

 

He told me his flight instructor took him up and did some hammerhead stalls with a Cessna 172.

 

My biological father and paterfamilias is a United States Of America Marine and has since passed on. He used to have a Cessna 175 and I CAN NOT imagine doing hammerhead stalls in those Cessnas.

 

Did you do hammerhead stalls in Cessna 172s?

 

:lmao:   :lmao:   :lmao:

 

If I understand correctly, Cessnas were used for reconnaissance during Vietnam.

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18 minutes ago, Synopsis said:

He told me his flight instructor took him up and did some hammerhead stalls with a Cessna 172.

Did you do hammerhead stalls in Cessna 172s?

If I understand correctly, Cessnas were used for reconnaissance during Vietnam.

 

Thanks for posting the song. Wonderful...!

 

Can't say that I did....I wouldn't do it myself, but there are stunt pilots who do all sort of things.

 

The Cessna O-2 Skymaster is a military version of the Cessna 337 Super Skymaster, used for forward air control (FAC) and psychological operations (PSYOPS) by the US military during the VietNam war. Also the Cessna A-37 Dragonfly was an attack and ground support. It was a twin engine jet fighter modified from the T-37 jet trainer.  I intend to buy one from the Air Force boneyard post RV/RI...LOL..! 

 

220px-Cessna_O-2A_Skymaster_%2820063249288%29.jpg   OA-37B-1 (centered).jpg

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38 minutes ago, ronscarpa said:

Can't say that I did....I wouldn't do it myself, but there are stunt pilots who do all sort of things.

 

:lmao:   :lmao:   :lmao:

 

I couldn't believe it when I heard it but got a good laugh out of what he was saying. A "white" "knuckle" ride for me hanging on for dear life!

 

Great info and pics! I hope you get a GREAT Cessna A-37 Dragonfly from Davis Monthan AFB well preserved!

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WOWZERS!!!

 

I was accorded two (2) Red Ruby Citations AND one (1) Voter Self Declared Lack Of Sufficient Intelligence Notation TO DATE As Badges Of Honor For ME For "Display Of Intellectual Speed And Power"!!!

 

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU Red Rubymeister(s) AND Self Declared Lack Of Sufficient Intelligence Voter(s) CONFIRMING MY (NOTE: MY) ILLUSTRATION(S) OF THE OBVIOUS FROM THE ARTICLE!!!

 

:bravo:   :bravo:   :bravo:

 

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Go MAGA FOREVER!!!

 

Go True The United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump THROUGH 2024!!!

 

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Go Israel FOREVER!!!

 

(A Special Thank You To ALL The Red Rubymeisters In ADVANCE For ALL The Red Ruby Citations As Badges Of Honor For ME For "Display Of Intellectual Speed And Power" Who THINK (misnomer, OF COURSE) The True The United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump IS A POS!!!)!!!

 

Go Red Rubymeisters AND Self Declared Lack Of Sufficient Intelligence Voters (ELSEWHERE!!!)!!!

 

YYYEEEAAAHHH BBBAAABBBYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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18 hours ago, Synopsis said:

Great info and pics! I hope you get a GREAT Cessna A-37 Dragonfly from Davis Monthan AFB well preserved!

 

Thanks Synopsis...I appreciate that..!

 

5 hours ago, Synopsis said:

I was accorded two (2) Red Ruby Citations AND one (1) Voter Self Declared Lack Of Sufficient Intelligence Notation TO DATE As Badges Of Honor For ME For "Display Of Intellectual Speed And Power"!!!

 

Not a problem Synopsis...I gave You a Thanks and an Upvote to make up for the 2 rubys..! :) Ron

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3 minutes ago, ronscarpa said:

 

Thanks Synopsis...I appreciate that..!

 

 

Not a problem Synopsis...I gave You a Thanks and an Upvote to make up for the 2 rubys..! :) Ron

 

:salute: !!!RonScarpa!!! :salute:

 

Thank You, SIR!

 

I loaded You up with purple trophies here AND elsewhere due to Your Informative, Highly Valued, AND Esteemed posts!!!

 

Thank You!

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On 1/14/2020 at 1:41 AM, ronscarpa said:

BA, UMBERTINO, AND EVERYONE ELSE.....I HOPE YOU TOOK THE TIME TO READ NEWT'S ARTICLE RATHER THAN JUST RESPOND TO THE TOPIC  HEADING....BECAUSE IT SEEMS THAT IS THE CASE.  BLESSINGS.....:salute:  RON

 

 

Yes I did...Did you read my last post about that Iranian student?

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