Medic chat: Dinar Speculator 7/22/10 @ 3:00pm

[Unitedrich]

* Medic chat: Dinar Speculator 7/22/10 @ 3:00pm

JULY 22, 2010 · POSTED IN CHATS / POSTS

MED:

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM

AND WHAT ARTICLE HAS GONE AGAINST EVERYTHING THIS SITE HAS SAID

brownbaby:

the one u sent out i believe

MED:

WHAT ABOUT IT

brownbaby:

and ppl are just freaking out but were trying to explain they arent new articles

MED:

IT DOES NOT GO AGAINST ANYTHING I SAID

EVER

brownbaby:

and that you sent it out to show everyone that they are reappearing and that this is close

MED:

YES I DID

I SAID THIS:

THAT NO RV WOULD HAPPEN WITH AN INTERIM GOVT

DID I NOT

AND THIS ARTICLE SAYS EXACTLY THAT

DOES IT NOT

YES OR NO

puddin:

yes med

mercedes:

yes very clear

butterfly:

yes

MED:

I WANT TO BE EXPLAINED WHAT IN THIS ARTICLE IS AGAINST EVERYTHING THIS SITE HAS SAID

THEN I WILL PROVE YOU WRONG

I AM HERE TO DEFEND MYSELF

SO LET ME

I AM NOT BANNING ANYONE

SO HAVE THE COURTESY TO EXPLAIN TO ME PLEASE

WHEN I AM HERE

NOT BEHIND MY BACK

WHEN PEOPLE THINK I AM GONE

OK BF WHO SAID THE ARTICLE I JUST SENT OUT AND I ALSO JUST POSTED ANOTHER ONE FROM THE KURDISH NEWS

IN CBI

butterfly:

mas….. all yours kiddo

MED:

TY HON

MAS WHAT IS CONTRADICTORY TO WHAT WE HAVE SAID ON THIS SITE

butterfly:

he must be workin on it med

meanwhile, gg likes teh article

MED:

I DO TOO

butterfly:

and was saying its good

MED:

IT IS

WE KNEW THEY WERE GOING TO REMOVE 3 ZERO’S

DID WE NOT

YES OR NO

tftx:

yes

Ranjoesgirl:

yes

vfwwildbill:

yes

Roadrunner:

yes, the currency

butterfly:

here is what GG said to me when she got the email med:

tell them that I’ve wrote you and told them to remain calm and that it WILL NOT LOP!

But it is a sure sign that we are back in play! The RV wheels are rolling!!! Whoohoo…. I’m so glad to finally see that darn article!

MED:

NOW I ALSO SAID THE SHORT TERM IT WILL NOT HELP IRAQ

BUT IN THE LONG TERM IT WILL

BECAUSE IT WILL ALLOW THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO DEVELOP

AND AS WE SAW DID WE NOT

THAT THEY SAID THE FAILURE OF THE ECONOMY WAS BECAUSE

THEY DIVERTED ALL REVENUES TO THE OIL SECTOR

AND THAT NOTHING WAS DONE AS THEY WERE ASKED TO DO BACK IN FEBRUARY 09

BY THE WORLD BANK AND IMF

WHICH WAS TO DIVERT ECONOMIC FAILURE

BECAUSE OF THE UPS AND DOWNS OF THE OIL PRICES

THEY NEED TO COUNTER IT WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR DEVELOPMENT

YET THEY DID NOT

NOW IN THAT ARTICLE AS THEY ALWAYS DO

THEY DO THE POINT COUNTERPOINT

BUT THE COUNTERPOINT WAS NOT THE OPINION OF THE CENTRAL BANK

WAS IT

SALEH SAID IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN

DID HE NOT

YES OR NO

butterfly:

yes

brownbaby:

yes

MED:

AND I SAID IT WOULD HAPPEN DID I NOT?

brownbaby:

yes

Roadrunner:

yes

MED:

AND THAT IT WOULD BE LEFT TO THE NEW GOVERNMENT TO DO IT

DID I NOT?

daguirre:

yes

brownbaby:

yep

Roadrunner:

and not the interm govt

Aunt Gwennie:

no investment in the private sector. but the outside world is ready to jump and develope when they have a goverment

MED:

SO WHAT IN THIS ARTICLE IS AGAINST WHAT THIS SITE HAS STOOD ON

YES THAT IS WHAT I SAID ALSO AUNT GWENNIE

DID I NOT

Aunt Gwennie:

yes you did

MED:

THAT THE U.S. WAS NOT COMING IN UNTIL A GOVT WAS IN PLACE

butterfly:

MAS, please talk to us

SamAdam222:

Med, Breitling seemed to think that the number of Dinar in circulation in the article was not correct based on the 70% that was pulled back in. Do you agree?

MED:

YES I DO AGREE

DID NOT SHABIBI SAY IN JUNE

THAT 70% WAS REMOVED

AND THERE WAS 32 TRILLION IN CIRCULATION

mas:

OK I’m back,I mean the artical is wrong on a couple of things we have hashed out here. Like the the liquidity reduction ( already done) and printing new currency. ( the small denoms will be replaced by large ones not brand new currency)

SamAdam222:

Yes he did.

mas:

wow, looks like I’m on the hot seat.

MED:

DID THEY NOT SAY IN THE ARTICLE MAS THAT THE MECHANISM WAS YET TO BE DETERMINED

YOU PUT YOURSELF THERE THOUGH MAS BY SAYING IT WENT AGAINST “EVERYTHING” THAT THIS SITE HAS STOOD FOR.

THAT IS NOT EVERYTHING

I NEVER SAID THEY WOULDN’T PRINT NEW CURRENCY

THEY HAVE TOO

THAT IS A GIMME

HOW ELSE WILL THEY REPLACE THE LARGE DENOMS

THEY CAN’T HAVE A 25K NOTE FLOATING AROUND IN SOMEONES POCKET

brownbaby:

i will fess up to that one i said they wouldnt because they cant afford it so i will take the brunt of that one med

MED:

THAT IS WORTH 22 THOUSAND AMERICAN DOLLARS

CAN THEY

THE OBJECTIVE IS TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF LIQUIDITY

Aunt Gwennie:

i have a pocket full of 25K notes

MED:

AND THAT IS NOT THE OVERALL VALUE OUT THERE

IT IS THE AMOUNT OF PAPER

THAT IS FLOATING

NOW IF WE GO TO THE M2

OF IRAQ

THEY STATE 32 TRILLION IN LIQUIDITY

AND A 9 TRILLION DEFICIET NOW IN LIQUIDITY DID THEY NOT

mas:

What was meant by that was not in anyway malitious. I was saying that we believe in the RV concept. I am actually 100% on your team. I will go back a reread what I said. but my intent is not to undermind you.

MED:

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REMEMBER THOUGH MAS

WE SAY RV

THEY HAVE USED HOW MANY TERMS

THEY HAVE USED: REBASE

REDENOMINATION

MALIKI CALLED IT RE-EVALUATION

AND THEY HAVE USED ALSO THE DELETION OF 3 ZERO

SO WHAT ONE IS RIGHT

IS THIS NOT TRUE

THE REASON WE SAY RV

IS BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE IS NO LOP

THAT IS ALL

brownbaby:

thanks med

MED:

YW

brownbaby:

would u like all that posted in the forums too

MED:

SURE

brownbaby:

for those coming in later?

mas:

I’m a slow typer and terrible speller so please bear with me.

MED:

MAS YOU ARE NOT IN TROUBLE

NOT AT ALL

paul212:

They don’t have print a new currency, just bring in smaller denoms and take the larger ones out of circulation over time.

MED:

THEY HAVE TO PRINT CURRENCY NO MATTER WHAT

UNLESS THEY ARE FULL OF BS

AS WE KNOW SOME DENOMS WERE PRINTED WITH THE ORIGINALS

THAT WERE PUT OUT

BUT CBI HAD A FIRE

AND MANY OF THE 1 DENOM NOTES WE KNOW WERE DESTROYED

THAT LEFT IT UP IN THE AIR IF THEY WOULD EVER BE USED

NOW AS I HAVE SAID IN THE PAST

THAT IS THE ONLY NOTE I KNOW THEY PRINTED

THAT I HAVE SEEN

AND ONLY BECAUSE ALI GAVE ONE TO A VERY GOOD FRIEND OF MINE

mas:

My point is that we believe in the RV. not new currency and liquidity reduction because of the RV.

MED:

NO THAT IS WRONG

I BELIEVE THEY WILL HAVE NEW DENOMS

AND THAT THE REASON FOR THAT IS ALSO

THAT THEY WILL REDUCE THE LIQUIDITY OF PAPER CURRENCY

mas:

So that is what I mean by our position on the site.

MED:

IN EXISTENCE

butterfly:

med, i think mas is sayin they will not just make NEW currency and say what we have is no good anymore

MED:

THEY CAN’T

butterfly:

right

MED:

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE

butterfly:

its just what the article said so some might read it that way, no biggie

MED:

ALL THE CURRENCY THAT ALL THE GOVTS AND WE ARE HOLDING

butterfly:

we all know better

MED:

HAS TO BE HONORED

AND IT WOULD BE AT THE CURRENT RATE OF EXCHANGE OF THE NEW CURRENCY

THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED IN KUWAIT

ALL THE LARGE DENOMS

WERE TURNED IN

AND THEY WERE HONORED AT THE CURRENT RATE OF EXCHANGE

BUT THEY ONLY GAVE 45 DAYS TO EXCHANGE

AFTER THAT YOU WERE SOL

mas:

Am I still loved by you guys?

MED:

NOW I HAVE HAD MIXED FEELINGS ON THAT 45 DAYS AND IRAQ

MAS I NEVER SAID I WAS MAD AT YOU

butterfly:

no mas, you are bad bad bad! lol

MED:

BUT THINK OF THIS

ASK A ?

AND IF YOU THINK SOMETHING IS CONTRADICTORY

LET US DISCUSS IT

IF FOR ONE SECOND

I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GET HOSED

THIS SITE WOULD BE OVER

I WILL NOT BE PART OF HELPING PEOPLE HOLD ONTO A DREAM

THAT I KNOWINGLY KNEW WAS A FARCE

THAT IS WHY BEFORE WHEN THIS CAME OUT IN LIKE FEBRUARY

I SAID FOR EVERYONE TO CALL ALI

AND FIND OUT IF WE WERE GETTING SCREWED

THAT I FELT HE HAD AN OBLIGATION TO GET AN ANSWER

I THEN WAS CONCERNED WE WERE

BUT HE GUARANTEED THAT WE WERE NOT

AND EVEN THOUGH I AM NOT A FAN OF HIS

THINK OF THIS

HE HAS SPENT MILLIONS OUT OF HIS POCKET

TO BUY SEVERAL BANKS

IN THE U.S. AND IRAQ

TO SET UP EXCHANGING AND INVESTING IN THOSE BANKS AND ASSETS IN IRAQ

IF WE WERE GOING TO LOSE OUT

WHAT WOULD BE THE SENSE OF HIM SPENDING THAT MONEY

AND WHY WOULD HE BE SETTING UP INVESTMENT PORTFOLIOS

TO OFFER TO US TO INVEST IN

IF

WE

DONT

HAVE

ANY

MONEY

TO

DO

IT

Aunt Gwennie:

waiting on my dream…..RV

MED:

DOES THIS MAKE SENSE

guardian:

yes

mckrin:

totally

Ranjoesgirl:

yes

calldinar:

Yes

tudor:

sure does

MED:

HELL I CAN HARDLY INVEST IN POSTAGE STAMPS

MUCH LESS INVEST IN IRAQ

KO15:

Why would our govt even allow us to purchase dinar if it was all a big scam?….

MED:

THAT IS TRUE KO15

I JUST DON’T THINK THEY WOULD ALLOW IT

GEORGE BUSH DID THIS

IN THE HOPES IT WOULD HELP US OUT

AND HE HOPED IT WOULD BE DURING HIS TERMS IN OFFICE

BUT AS WE HAVE SEEN

THESE ARE NOT THE BRIGHTEST BULBS ON THE TREE

AND IF YOU HAVEN’T HIT THEM WITH A CATTLE PROD

THEY DON’T WANT TO MOVE AT ALL

NOW REMEMBER

WE DON’T CARE IF THEY PRINT NEW CURRENCY

ALL WE CARE ABOUT IS THAT THEY HONOR THE ONES THAT THE REST OF THE WORLD HOLDS

CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THEY TOLD THE U.S.

AND THE 2.5 TRILLION DINAR WE HOLD

TOUGH CRAP

OR CHINA

OR THE UK

OR FRANCE

THE WILL BE IN CHAPTER VII UNTIL ANOTHER PLANET FORMS IN OUR SOLAR SYSTEM

LOL

I AM VERY EXCITED GANG

VERY

THAT IS WHY I SENT OUT THE EMAIL

IT WAS NOT MY FIND

BUT THOUGHT IT WAS THAT GOOD TO SEND OUT

I FOUND ONE SIMILIAR ON THE KURDISH NEWS SITE

mas:

I’m here

MED:

PLEASE DON’T FEEL SINGLED OUT

I APOLOGIZE IF I DID THAT

YOU ARE ALL AWESOME PEOPLE

brownbaby:

we are a family

MED:

AND HAVE CONSIDERED IT AN HONOR TO SERVE YOU ALL

OK ANYMORE ?

harv1414:

what excites you most about all the news out there?

MED:

THE ARTICLE THAT KO15 FOUND

I WAS WONDERING IF THEY WOULD GO FOR IT

AFTER ALL THE PRESSURE

BY ECONOMISTS AND SR ECONOMISTS

THE FACT THAT BILLIONS HAVE BEEN SPENT

AND NOTHING IS ANY BETTER

THEY HAVE NO CHOICE

YOU CAN ONLY DO 3 THINGS

AND THEY TRIED TWO OF THEM SEVERAL TIMES

SHABIBI PLAYS A BIG PART IN THE FAILURE

HE WAS TOO CONCERNED

WITH THE INSTITUTIONS

Jim24874:

Only one problem Med is that it was American money that they have been spending mostly

MED:

IT IS NOT A PROBLEM

Jim24874:

Now it is time for them to spend theirs

MED:

OH YES

I MISUNDERSTOOD

BUT YOU ARE CORRECT

Jim24874:

We will get ours back

Roadrunner:

Med, do we know what the IMF found during their audit of the CBI?

MED:

YES WE WILL

THE AUDIT WAS POSTED

I BELIEVE

IT WAS NOT POSITIVE FOR THEM

ONE REALLY BAD THING

IN IRAQ

IS THEY HIDE MOST CORRUPTION

AND THEY DO NOT PROSECUTE

NOW MALIKI

MAKES 145K A YEAR

SO A MINISTRY OFFICIAL YOU CAN GUESS MAKES HALF OF THAT

SO HOW DOES A GUY WHO MAKES LET’S SAY 75K A YEAR

BUY A PALACE WORTH 1.5 BILLION

AND HE PAID CASH

AND ALL THAT WAS SAID

IS THEY HOPE SOMEONE LOOKS INTO IT

KO15:

it was USD that they stole mostly…

well guess what – it’s payback time!

MED:

YES IT WAS

OK TIME TO GO

MY LUNCH IS HERE

SORRY GANG

THANKS GANG

LATER ALL

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COMMENTS

[eileen]

thanks for the post.

[Niko]

UR thanks for the post. I wonder why he doesnt like Ali?

[caz1104]

Whoaaaaaaaaaa Dont mess with Medic!!!!! Great Post - GO RV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Unitedrich]

UR thanks for the post. I wonder why he doesnt like Ali?

Don't know. Good question though. He does make a valid point that "why would Ali spend millions in banks in Iraq if the money was going to be worthless"? I had not given that serious consideration before.

[Trimark]

He does make a valid point that "why would Ali spend millions in banks in Iraq if the money was going to be worthless"?

Yes, that's one of the things I hold onto throughout this crazy process. I believe that Ali has a lot of contacts and that if he didn't know that the RV would be worth millions to people like us then there is no way he would spend $26 million or whatever amount of his own money that he mentioned on one of his calls to set up the banks.

CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THEY TOLD THE U.S.

AND THE 2.5 TRILLION DINAR WE HOLD

Does anyone know if this number is accurate? Does the US government hold 2.5 trillion dinar or is the 'we' he is referring to speculators? I've seen 1.75 T posted for speculators but not any numbers for how much the US government holds. I think it would be great news for us speculators if the 2.5 was held by the US government.

Thanks for the post UnitedRich.

[Short6]

wOW! THANKS FOR THE POST, SOME OF MY FREINDS THIS MORNING WERE GOING CRAZY WHEN THAT LOP ARTICLE CAME OUT AGAIN AND i HAD TO REASSURE MESELF IT WAS AND OLD ONE! THANKS FOR THE SETTING THE RECORD STRAIT AGAIN. GO RI!!!!!

[Danneedsrvnow]

Medic thinks he is sooooooo smart...........yet he has predicted the rv at least 100 times in the last 7 years!

Not bashing him, just stating a FACT!

Anyone who follows & believes in this clown needs to do a little research & they may be unpleasantly surprised.

What irks me the most is how he gets so upset when people disbelieve what he says. Not to mention the obvious fact that he considers himself to be a dinar teacher & none of his pupils better ever step out of line with him or his way of thinking (or not thinking)!

I realize there are many gurus out there that have thrown out many wrong dates....but this guy has taken it to the next level.

Anyway.......I just needed to release a little frustration!

Peace

[Pam&Brian]

I don't know why I read his posts.If he has nothing new...He makes it up! J MO .To me the only one with believable info is "E" I'm not bashing, JMO...MEDIC needs to get off posting unless he has something!Beleivable would help!

[financeminister]

LOL, I never read Medics posts, I always go right to the responses to see if it was worth the read, and so far I have never had to read one.

[Eddinar]

Don't know. Good question though. He does make a valid point that "why would Ali spend millions in banks in Iraq if the money was going to be worthless"? I had not given that serious consideration before.

Definitely a good point...also, Ali has 9 other locations ready to open around the country within 5 days of an RV and you can't just open these offices in 5 days without paying rent, phones, internet hookup, etc. If Ali is doing all of this, he must know something because why would he shell out a bunch of cash to hold on to leases to these locations and have heavy security in place if he wasn't sure that there would be an RV soon? Thoughts appreciated.....

[DCupp]

Definitely a good point...also, Ali has 9 other locations ready to open around the country within 5 days of an RV and you can't just open these offices in 5 days without paying rent, phones, internet hookup, etc. If Ali is doing all of this, he must know something because why would he shell out a bunch of cash to hold on to leases to these locations and have heavy security in place if he wasn't sure that there would be an RV soon? Thoughts appreciated.....

Does anyone know the locations of Alis banks? Are any of them open yet?

[Eddinar]

Definitely a good point...also, Ali has 9 other locations ready to open around the country within 5 days of an RV and you can't just open these offices in 5 days without paying rent, phones, internet hookup, etc. If Ali is doing all of this, he must know something because why would he shell out a bunch of cash to hold on to leases to these locations and have heavy security in place if he wasn't sure that there would be an RV soon? Thoughts appreciated.....

Sorry....Dinar Trade's offices will be open within 7 days....just to clarify...

[Eddinar]

Great job Medic...I love to read your posts...nothing sugar coated and no B.S. I appreciate your posts and fact finding on this investment....

[Traconesu02]

Thanks for the post Unitedrich

[truckerron49]

Definitely a good point...also, Ali has 9 other locations ready to open around the country within 5 days of an RV and you can't just open these offices in 5 days without paying rent, phones, internet hookup, etc. If Ali is doing all of this, he must know something because why would he shell out a bunch of cash to hold on to leases to these locations and have heavy security in place if he wasn't sure that there would be an RV soon? Thoughts appreciated.....

I saw Ali on National T.V. several months ago. AS I recall he started this business with his Father with ten thousand dollars. I wonder if he bought all the banks in Iraq and here and is paying all the leases and other costs of overhead with the interest off the same ten thousand bucks.. I know he has made a lot of money from us speculators, but it is just my point of some more of the BS that some people think we forget.. Sorry, but when you are just lurking in the very back of the room, it is easier to see thru the fog.....

[shannybelle27]

LOL, I never read Medics posts, I always go right to the responses to see if it was worth the read, and so far I have never had to read one.

That's funny because I do the same thing

[Doc31]

Thanks for the post

[vato96]

I believe the reason medic is not a fan of Ali is because they had him on a conference call and Ali backed out of something he had stated before in front of many people. I am not 100% but if I recall properly that is the reason why Ali has fell out of graces with a lot of the GURU's

[twestbrook]

Does anyone know the locations of Alis banks? Are any of them open yet?

You can read the currently open branches at his web site -- dinartrade.com. Also if you email them from the site they'll send you the cash in procedure doc that outlines where the other offices will be located once the RV hits. Hope this helps.