Blitz Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 U.S. ambivalence runs deep as Iraq violence revives Facebook 2 Twitter 10 ASSOCIATED PRESS A man clears debris after clashes in Fallouja, Iraq. A debate has emerged in Washington as fighters from Al Qaeda-linked Islamic State of Iraq and Syria have overrun parts of Anbar province in Iraq. ADVERTISEMENT Related Content U.S. response muted to Al Qaeda affiliate's gains in Syria and Iraq Distrust hinders U.S.-Iraq fight against resurgent Al Qaeda militants Maliki calls on Iraqis to expel Al Qaeda from Anbar or face attack BY DAVID S. CLOUD January 10, 2014, 7:58 p.m. WASHINGTON — Zach Iscol was a Marine captain in 2004 when his platoon — a combined unit of 30 Iraqis and 20 Americans — seized the railroad station on the first night of the bloody battle of Fallouja. They spent a week kicking in doors and fighting house to house, block by block, in some of the toughest urban combat of America's eight-year war in Iraq. Half a dozen of Iscol's men were wounded, but dozens of Marines in other squads were killed. Today, with ground that Marines fought and died for under control of insurgents flying the banner of Al Qaeda, and growing fears of another civil war, Iscol admits he has deeply conflicting views about the U.S. military withdrawal from Iraq in 2011. "Part of me feels like we need to be supporting our allies … and part of me feels like we shouldn't waste any more American blood in that part of the world," Iscol, who retired from the Marines in 2007, said Friday. His ambivalence mirrors the debate that has reemerged in Washington as fighters from Al Qaeda-linked Islamic State of Iraq and Syria have overrun parts of Iraq's Anbar province, including the provincial capital, Ramadi, and Fallouja. The fighting has left hundreds of civilians, soldiers and militants dead and forced thousands of families to flee. "There are a lot of things that can be done to help Iraq, but everyone is talking in the immediate term and there's very little we can do in the immediate term," said Douglas Ollivant, a retired Army officer who was a senior planner in Baghdad in 2006 and 2007. With declining U.S. leverage in Iraq since the withdrawal, the Obama administration has focused on trying to help without risking U.S. lives or taking sides in what amounts to sectarian fighting between the Shiite-dominated government in Baghdad and its tribal allies against Sunni insurgents in Anbar. The Pentagon rushed 75 Hellfire missiles, which can be fired from Iraqi helicopters or airplanes, to Baghdad in mid-December. Officials said they would speed up delivery of 100 additional missiles, as well as ScanEagle surveillance drones, in coming weeks. A senior Defense official said the U.S. was also likely to send Iraq rush shipments of small arms and ammunition. But White House officials, Pentagon commanders and lawmakers in Congress have stopped short of calling for major new U.S. assistance to help Prime Minister Nouri Maliki's embattled government regain control, or to stop the spillover of violent extremists from the civil war raging in neighboring Syria. Sending U.S. troops back, even as advisors, isn't under consideration in either Baghdad or Washington. Senior U.S. officials, led by Vice President Joe Biden, have urged Maliki to show restraint and to seek support from local Sunni leaders rather than launching a military assault on Fallouja, which sits in the heartland of the Sunni minority, and risking a bloodbath. Aides say the administration is pushing Maliki to accept a two-part strategy: using military force to battle the insurgents, while reaching out for political reconciliation with Sunni leaders and groups who are caught in the middle. But the White House is reluctant to get too involved for fear it will be drawn into the conflict. The administration also sought to break a logjam in Congress, where key lawmakers have blocked a White House proposal since July to sell as many as 30 Apache heavily armed attack helicopters to Iraq, and to lease 10 more. The chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), has held up the sale out of concern that Maliki's forces would use the helicopters against Sunni civilians, not just insurgents. But Menendez and his allies signaled this week that they might reconsider after they received a letter from Maliki and a promise from the State Department to address their demand for U.S. monitoring of Iraq's use of the helicopters. "The question is whether the Maliki government would use those aircraft … only against violent extremists … and not to further sectarian political objectives," Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.), chairman of the Armed Services Committee, said Thursday on the Senate floor. "With credible assurances, it would be appropriate to provide such assistance." Adam Sharon, a committee spokesman, said Friday that the administration was addressing Menendez's concern so the sale could proceed. Even if the Apache deal is approved, delivery of the first aircraft is likely to be months away. They thus probably will not be available for any military operation aimed at retaking Fallouja and Ramadi, another insurgent stronghold that once saw heavy U.S. fighting and casualties. The Pentagon is also drafting a plan to begin training small groups of Iraqi soldiers in a third country, possibly Jordan, according to a senior U.S. official. The plan, first reported by the Wall Street Journal, is in the early stages and has not been approved by officials in the administration or in Iraq or Jordan, the U.S. official said. Iraq has periodically allowed U.S. special forces teams into the country to train its troops, the only remnant of the once-vast American training effort. Like the Apache helicopter sales, new training programs are not likely to help Iraq through its current crisis in Anbar. The U.S. began secretly flying unarmed surveillance drones over western Iraq in November and shared the intelligence with Maliki's government. But Maliki, who is wary of appearing to be in America's sway, ordered the flights halted last month and has not allowed them to resume, officials said. With few Americans paying attention, or eager to reengage with Iraq, its troubles may stay under the radar in Washington — except for those who fought in the unpopular war. "We used to plant the flag in the ground and say, 'These are our allies,' " said Iscol, the Marine captain who fought in Fallouja in 2004 and now runs a high-tech employment company in Brooklyn, N.Y. "Now I'd say it's in our national character that we turn our back on our allies." david.cloud@latimes.com ADVERTISEMENT Good read about the apache helicopters deals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Doesn't sound like Iraq will be getting the apache helicopters any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aitshioud Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 The Pentagon rushed 75 Hellfire missiles, which can be fired from Iraqi helicopters or airplanes, to Baghdad in mid-December. Officials said they would speed up delivery of 100 additional missiles, as well as ScanEagle surveillance drones, in coming weeks. Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/169641-us-ambivalence-runs-deep-as-iraq-violence-revives/#ixzz2qABhOpBi For 30-45 people, that just got talked into leaving by "agreement" isn't that a bit overkill? What a spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new york kevin Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 It would be better for it to be a couple of days instead of a couple of weeks. Duh. Get them what they need now or the Russians will walk in give them what we didn't and benefit from our blood, sweat, and tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneysoon Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Stop, Drop, and Crawl, people. This incident is propaganda! We were already told that the insurgents were no more than 30-40 people. Why is it that the US is juxtaposed against IRAQ. Are we the only entity that could give IRAQ arms to fight terrorists??? Wake up. Country after country is rooting for their success economically and otherwise including our Government, go figure. My call is that this is more HollyWashington, trying to get the citizens of Iraq to turn their hope and trust away from the US and put faith in their own country through self-determination leading unto cohesion. Notice everybody and their mother telling Iraq to work together as a unified Iraq....? With this new Iraqi Pride, the desire for the dollar will be minimized and the Dinar will reign supreme in Iraq? The US and the world powers did not rush in to help for a reason! notice not a one of them lifted a finger to hall a fledging democracy fight against terrorists? I call Smoke of the magicians kind. This is nothing more than a slight of hand parlor trick to boost morale and the Image of the Dinar. Good for them! Thug, please insert an appropriate caption if you are out there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 60 Iraqis killed in two weeks of clashes and violence in Anbar [11 / January / 2014] gray (Saba) - Killing at least 60 people and wounded nearly 300 others, all of them civilians, since the outbreak of violence and military operations in Anbar province in western Iraq about two weeks ago. said Health Department Anbar province in an official statement it "The victims of military operations and indiscriminate shelling of residential neighborhoods, especially in the cities of Ramadi and Fallujah and Duahehma as well as the victims of the clashes between the army and insurgents, was 60 dead and 297 injured. " the statement pointed out that the dead were divided by 43 in Ramadi, Fallujah and 17 while 132 were wounded in Fallujah .. Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/169675-60-iraqis-killed-in-two-weeks-of-clashes-and-violence-in-anbar/#ixzz2qC3PutBv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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