Vote to Repeal Obamas Health Care Bill

[Traconesu02]

http://www.teapartypatriots.org/repealthebill/

[Grumpy]

I'm in already

[TazzManiac]

I'm in already

[ghitch]

Looks like someone bought in to the RW BS, lies and half truths. What's new? Don't they realize that it's just politics as usual. Maybe they didn't realize that many of the ideas included in the bill were Republican to begin with. WHAT? Get out of town! Do the research! Guess they didn't bother to read what good the legislation will actually do for millions of Americans. Work in the trenches for a little while and it's easy to see why health care needed reform. And, shock, I'm not a dem! I'm just willing to do my own research and think for myself and not listen to the talking heads!

[tommy17]

ghitch I take it you've been drinking Big Ears koolaid. The gov doesn't care about your health its about taking your freedoms away as a free cititzen of the united states. when Castro and Chavez praise us for health care thats not a good sign. Go to cuba where hundreds of thousands of people were killed if they did not agree with castro. Alot of people on this forum have researched this so called health care and are not happy with the gov and liberials of which i suspect your the later.

[eastcreek]

Looks like someone bought in to the RW BS, lies and half truths. What's new? Don't they realize that it's just politics as usual. Maybe they didn't realize that many of the ideas included in the bill were Republican to begin with. WHAT? Get out of town! Do the research! Guess they didn't bother to read what good the legislation will actually do for millions of Americans. Work in the trenches for a little while and it's easy to see why health care needed reform. And, shock, I'm not a dem! I'm just willing to do my own research and think for myself and not listen to the talking heads!

ghitch, everyone knows some changes were/are needed in our healthcare delivery. Only fools believe it will be done better by the federal government. Secondly, and maybe more importantly, the government is succeeding in making the people of this country more and more dependent on centralized government and less self reliant. This is a sad thing that has just been foisted on our people !

[bababooey41]

The whole repeal the bill idea is pandering and a waste of time. Obama would veto any bill with repeal coming across his desk and there aren't going to be a 2/3 majority of Republicans AND Democrats to get together to override the veto. Just another "feel good" moment for teabaggers to stroke their following and make them think they're actually doing something.

[markst]

I happen to believe they are doing something, so count me in. Come November the democratic power will at least be neutralized. Thank GOD...

[gjames_54]

Hmmmm, I wonder what will happen when the dinar hits.. maybe that's why the repubs are up in a roar. Could it be that someone else will be taking all of the credit the GB started? Just a thought. What do you think?

[ghitch]

I see regular, hard working folks, every day, that can't afford the $1000 5 mile ambulance ride to the hospital because they either just lost or can't afford insurance. No BS. They get to the ER, are saddled with $20 - $30K worth of hospital bills on top of the ambulance that they couldn't afford, their credit goes to sh*t because they are brought to collection by the hospital and the private ambulance company.......Or maybe it's like my neighbor, who lost his job last year. His lost his insurance. His wife has CF. Now he's looking at either not being able to get insurance or paying over $45K a year for a policy. Honest look in to this kind of stuff. Don't leave it to the "people on forum" that have done the research.

And for seeing through the BS and the RW fear mongering, tommy17 assumes that I'm a lib. Not even close. I just am tired of seeing hard working Americans getting screwed by insurance companies. The bill wasn't perfect, but it was one **** of a lot better than doing nothing, which is exactly what would have happened should the bill have gone down. I'm actually fortunate enough to have great insurance. For me, nothing changes. It's not Obama care, it's not a government take over of health care, just the requirement that everyone either buy health care insurance or pay a levy/fine. Sounds similar to auto insurance. I bet that if some dude wrecked your raised 4"x 4" and they didn't have insurance, you'd be screaming mad. Doesn't that sound a little hypocritical?

You've actually proven my point about listening to the RW fear/hate machine. You've probably heard of Teddy Roosevelt, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Richard Nixon, George H.W. Bush, they have all tried and failed to push through health care through to one degree or another. Obama was elected by folks that were fed up with the last eight years. He did exactly what the majority of voters in our wonderful democracy sent him to Washington to do. Change is difficult, and sometimes scary. If it were easy, it would have been done a long time ago.

If you're against the current health care law, then I would assume that you would vote or elect politicians that would vote to overturn social security, medicare, and the likes thereof. It has nothing to do with socialism, Cuba, Chavez, whatever.

Get a life

[markst]

I agree with you on certain points, but I am tired of seeing State Rights reduced. Honestly I dont think this law will past muster and most likely will not get past the Supreme Court. Maybe its because I was born a TEXAN and were kind of independent...

[heracio]

To GHITCH

yourquote "For me, nothing changes." wait until your premium is due and lets see if nothing changes for you.

[bababooey41]

..and that's what the spooky fear-mongers would want...do nothing. Say no. What's so sad is this isn't even about the 32 million or the pre-existing conditions or even the parents who can now keep their kids on their insurance until they're 26. This is about Obama...and democrats. Instread of going to Washington to GET TO WORK....these republicans do nothing....contribute nothing. They threaten now not to "work with the left for the rest of the year"? Well what kind of scary threat is that?!?!? They haven't worked with them up to now so what's the difference? Even that's not good enough. You have this fringe element out there stirring up the hate using spooky language like "socialist" and "marxist" and birth certificates. Amazing how the right NEVER seems to accept when they lose. Everyone loses. Guess what extreme right wingers? You lost! Stop trying to repeal and make up crazy stories to get impeachment or somehow further disrespect the process. If you're so worried that "your country" is going into the toilet because of all the "Socialist from Kenya" ...then get it together...wait your turn and organize to vote him out. That is, unless your party FURTHER wishes to fracture off into an even more regionalized group. As it stands now, you have reasonable level-headed Republicans....and kooky crazy hillbillies who are scaring the be-Jesus out of your party leaders. Actually making them think they need to embrace your paranoia in order to win. You actually have to trot out the Alaskan Dingbat to save John McCain?!?!?! What has happend to this party?!?!? Is it any wonder that the Independant vote swung the Presidency to Obama? Do you honestly think this kind of lunacy, negative venomous behavior is going to sit well with the Independant voter come November? Wow....you are dreaming!

[Kuper]

Everyone should check out the obama deception on youtube. Under search Type in the obama deception. Its about 2 hours long but I think its worth the watch. Maybe you have heard of it?

[k98nights]

I'm already in. Don't tread on me.

[markst]

I consider myself a level-headed Republican. Why do you say kooky crazy hillbillies are scaring our party leaders. I like to think OBAMA is the one scaring people and those independent voters are exactly what OBAMA needs to watch out for. Example. My neices and nephew graduated from UT and are probably about as far left as you can get. Well guess what, they have made it perfectly clear that they will not vote for Obama next time.

[eastcreek]

ghitch, you are just like so many others who support this trap. For goodness sake, see the problem and work to fix it without giving up your (and my) independence. Work toward tort reform; work toward open ,honest competition in the health insurance field by allowing insurance companies to offer their products across state lines. Capitalism works wonderfully well when allowed to. We must have laws restricting monopolistic situations; that's what capitalism can so easily get to. Government should protect citizens against bad practices WITHOUT actually getting into the business. That is exactly where we are headed with this legislation.

Years ago, in an effort to protect market share, insurance companies encouraged the formation of laws to restrict interstate access to healthcare insurance. It was a misdirected effort, but one that worked well for a while. Now we're in this predicament which actually causes just the type situation(s) you describe. If we had less government intrusion and more competition, prices would come down.

Come on, embrace your freedoms and work to keep them !

[ghitch]

I'm fortunate enough to have my employer pay the bulk of my insurance premium. My wife and I pay a small part. Keith, all I'm asking folks to do is look in to parts of the actual bill. For me, and most all of my fellow firefighters, even with so called "cadillac" plans. Nothing changes, honest. Don't take my word for it, please. Look for your self. My great insurance falls well below what would be considered a plan that would have any premium or tax.

What I can tell you is that our here in California (I can hear it coming now, LOL.....) Anthem Blue Cross attempted to raise rates for individual plan holders (those not as fortunate as myself) by over 40% last month. As Tommy likes to call him, "Big Ears", called BS and demanded to know WTF, over? Sounds to me like a guy that was looking out for me. Just calling it like I see it. They have since backed off and are being requested to justify the increase. There has to be checks and balances. I'm not naive enough to think that the bill will immediately, or in the near future, lower costs. But by increasing access to insurance for millions more people, less and less people will show up at hospitals without insurance, forcing the hospitals and state governments to eat the costs.

[captainamerica]

I read a couple articles that stated fining those without health insurance and other such ideas have been around the republican party ever since the Regan years. I think Romney tried to do something similar to this when he was governor. If your really mad you shouldn't just be mad at Democrats you should be mad at all of them. The right could have easily tried to compromise and get a better bill passed. Instead they just chose to talk big and do nothing. When your that much in the minority you have to compromise, otherwise they'll just pass the stuff without you. If ppl are serious about solving the problems in Washington they would try to get a 3rd party established and elected. If ppl want to use the tea party as the 3rd party that's fine. But if your just going to have the tea party go and vote republican then there not really a separate party, there just a different section like the evangelicals. In this instance there not doing anything revolutionary to change the status quo, there just creating a new marketing campaign for the right

[whisky runner]

i believe there was a war at the top between banker and medical field ... and the winner is the Bankers of the world .. now I see where states are suing the federal bank

[markst]

The plan my wife and I have at work while not very expensive still requires a 6000 deductible. While I consider this a catostrophic plan it really doesnt help with standard well person exams. Our company has over 200 employees so it would have to offer a plan similar to what we have now. If anyone decides that they can get a better deal through the exchanges the company would be taxed at 2000 per person. I understanded that the first 30 would be exempt. I can see it now. If you are employee number 31 and find a better deal thru the exchanges what do you think is going to happen. The company pays 2000 dollars or just lets you go. I think we know the answer to that...

[whisky runner]

I believe the tea party is funded by the federal bank ... they need the republic party to be in charge for there next world move … and I believe they need Obama out because of some middle east problems he will not deal with … like nukes in iran ,,, so this all republic new party in three years will deal with that … Palin been hobnobbing with the feberal bank lobbyist ... hope she doesnot fall for there plan because i like her ... she was good for alaska

[ghitch]

Hey Eastcreek, finally some one with a little common sense (besides Bababooey). I'm absolutely all for tort reform. Great point. I think that the Republican idea to allow insurance companies to offer their products across state lines also wasn't a bad idea. IMO, the problem was that those ideas weren't anywhere near far enough to tackle the huge problems that exist for so many folks out there. I certainly agree that there are areas where there is too much government encroachment, and in some areas, where there could probably be a little more. Where the dems failed, again, IMO, was that they didn't include tort reform or allow cross state line products in the bill that was passed. Too bad, hopefully, in time the bill can be tweaked.

The ideas that you refer to, in what I do for a living, would be like using a garden hose on a ripping house fire. What's really needed are heavy streams, now, otherwise, the fire will spread out of control, which it is already doing. The problems with health care as existed before the new law are real for so many people and not exaggerated. Immediate attention was absolutely necessary.

On another point, thank God that we live in a country where we can have civil discourse and freely and respectfully agree to disagree without risk of persecution. Anyone who thinks that Obama is chasing a Socialist agenda that threatens these freedoms is a straight kook!

[markst]

There you go again using words like "kook". There are a lot of people who think that is exactly what Obama is doing "persuing a socialist agenda", yet you brand them as "kooks".

[ghitch]

Sorry if I offended you. Just calling it the way I see it. I think those folks (kooks) are freaked out and making much ado about nothing. I honestly think that they freaked out when he was elected and now that he's doing what he was elected to do, they're going off the deep end and listening to Palin and the like. Our wonderful country has way too many checks and balances to let one person/party indiscriminately push through a socialist agenda. Just won't happen! Health care reform that was first attempted by Teddy Roosevelt isn't socialism. The legislation wasn't perfect but the Republicans had several areas where they could have had serious contribution and show real bipartisanship, but they fumbled and instead decided to use slander and fearmongering and yes, paint Obama as a Socialist to push their agenda.