thechosenone

Well I have to say it is the first time we have seen any proof that things are changing that we can actually see!! CBI went from 1170 to 1166 and if you go to forex pro about half way down the page it says that IQD went from fixed to float. Thats pretty cool to me!!

You know folks are going to bash good intel as much as they are bad. No matter what anyone says, good or bad, there will be someone who knows better, or more. Your post ( to me ) is probably the most sensible one i have read in a while. Everyone keeps running down people that dont say anything but this week, or tomorrow, or 48 hrs, or whatever they want to hear that week. But most intel to this point about it RVing weekly has been absolutely 100% wrong up to this very point from this time last year ( when I started following ) till now. I am so sick of reading " Im not hearing anything negative" from all of the GURUs. That means absolutely nothing. As long as there contunues to be no RV or change in the value of the Dinar, you friend is the ONLY one who is 100% correct. I believe you post as much or more than I believe any of them!

I love to read encouraging stories as much as anyone. But as this last year has come and gone, most encouraging stories lead to discouragement in the end. They have been trying my patience with the dinar world and its investment. I read all of the sites stuff, the same s most that are looking or any news at all about Dinar. I have gotten irritated more than once with some of the GURUs on all of the sites. Even when I stopped going to the sites, somebody brings them in here and posts them so that all can read and voice opinions or sarcastic responses to the posts. No way to avoid the Gurus or bashers. Heres my resolution. Just my thing. Not that I ever really believed any of it, but in the beginning I actually did, much to my dismay. Beginning January one I intend to read every item and guru post that I can. I will read every gurus post and take it with a grain of salt. When ( and I do say when ) they lie, or post false information, regardless of the source, I will no longer read that gurus post, no matter where its from. I will just pass over anything written or posted by them or by someone else from them. It is obvious that most dont have a clue nor do the intel sources they claim to have. In one month I bet that 90% of the gurus will be eliminated. My frustration level will decrease and next year at this time, should we repeat this years end as we did last year, and should the Mayans be right, Dinar wont matter! LOL

Thank you for being kind. You are one of few here. It does say opinions and perspectives on the heading doesnt it? Just my opinion, I am not trying to take anyone elses away from them. No im not selling my Dinar, Im just not going to follow it like I had been for sure. It was a waste of valuable time! Blessings to you and Merry CHRISTmas!

Before you start giving me thousands of negs, I found my other post. My fault. Those who are kind thank you, those who are not,get help!

LOL heres your first clue! If you were soooo sure of your investment, you would offer twice what you paid! Just because I joined DV in August doesnt mean I am new to the investment. Even if i were you v=can do a tremendous amount of backtracking and research to see what I have said is true. I do believe it will revalue, just a little at a time, and not the way we want it to.

I am a realist. I want to know the truth, always have. But im afraid I got caught up on the Guru train, until I took a two week vacation in Jamaica. I got back yesterday, and realized that things are exactly the same as when I left. The news is the same the crap is the same. I guess I have managed after clearing my head, to realize that I was being an idiot to even believe any of it. Some will not like, or appreciate what I have to say, but heres my take. After many Gurus have come, been proven wrong and new ones have taken the spot they had, all are full of it! Do you not think that people who are money smart would not know about Dinar? or invest even upon the slightest possiblilty? Do you not think that the greedy big banks would not jump at the chance to skim an abundance of revalued money from an RV? Yet none are invested, and banks are saying they will never participate! I realized that I was stupid to invest with the thought of quick money. Its not going to happen. The money people that I know, which are really only a few, but are very wealthy and have brokers handling their money, have called the brokers they know and have been laughed at. SERIOUSLY! Thats the truth. The state of Iraqs nation at the moment is not prepared for a rich status. There is too much corruption in the GOI. Just go back and read even five six seven years ago and you will find that we are in a severe groundhog day situation. Dinar investors naturally want a quick RV and an instant wealth answer. We have become a microwave society. We want everything now. Dont fall into this trap. I do believe that we are into a good investment in the Dinar. Just not the way we think. Its going to take years for the country to get their affairs in order. Its not going to happen tomorrow, next week, or even next year. Check back with me next year at this time. We will see who the guru is. The guru is actually common sense. I posted last night as well, but something went wrong. maybe my fault, maybe not. We shall see. I posted this to maybe help someone like me who got caught up in the nonsense and looking to snap out of it!

I just returned from two weeks vacation in the Jamaica. Spent some time clearing my head from work, news, and worries of the world. I realized something, Things on the dinar after two weeks of being away, have not changed a bit. In fact, I realized that I had been conditioned to believe the crap these Gurus have been spreading. I know now that this whole revaluaton of the dinar thing is a boatload of CRAP. If anyone was thinking otherwise, just go back three months and see how many have told you the same thing week after week after week. Throw them out one by one, after two or hell lets say three unfruitful declarations of intel saying tomorrow tomorrow, and you will find there arent any left to say anything. After three or four have disappeared, and new ones have taken their place. Just a groundhog day effect, over and over again.Now Im not saying that it wont increase in value. What I am saying, it WONT BE TOMORROW! It wont be nextr week! It wont be this year! It may take many many years for this to become a paying investment. If it were even a remote possibility, The people who are in the know, would bve all over it! People who are real money people and into investments would be investing. They are not! They will laugh in your face when confronted about dinar. The Gurus have the audacity to call these people ignorant. They will say, they just dont know what I know. Right..... just keep believing that. You will find yourself in the same boat five years from now.THere would be more in the financial news, more investment groups talking about it, and most definately, the same greedy banks that want to charge you to use your debit card would be chomping at the bit to take your dinar at a lesser exchange rate. Lets get real! I will be removing myself fro m the dinar world from this day forward. Now you ask, then why take the time or trouble to write this all down? One reason, maybe this note will cause some others to realize the error in all of this and cause them to decide to examine the evidence the same way i have. You will realize im right. Any you can get on with life, without thinkingabout when this will " COME THROUGH" God bless!

Why pound on the Gurus? Holding them accountable for what they say is not pounding! Untruth is untruth. Old school says a mans word is his bond. Wanna know whats happend in our country? We stopped holding people ( including presidents and gov. officials) accountable for what they say. When we start, we will solve a great deal of issues! Just sayin

1st off, this is an older post, I wish it werent, but it is. My greatest suggestion for you is to continue doing your own research. The MOST grounded intel comes from ADAM. Stay AWAY from the guru sites. They will frustrate you to no end. 2nd off it has johnnywg in the conversation, that in itself makes the whole thing worthless. He hasnt told the truth in anything i have seen him post. He has called this thing to rv a hundred times by tomorrow.

I rest my case

All anybody has to do around here to find out how bad the bashing is on this site is to post something positive. My gosh I just read a post where someone was talking about a phone call they got and the negs ate him alive!! they acted like he stole something from them. God man all this guy did was relay a story. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED FOR SURE EITHER! So it makes you just as bad for responding with hate! If you dont believe it, then move on and read something else. I get just as tired of the BS stories as anyone else but you need to be bashing johnnywg and bear and bulldog and those people who have proven to be false intel givers. Not the people who are just part of the regular folks without the GURU title. Im as tired of the neg people as I as i am the supposed gurus who constantly give false information.

MAn I get tired of hearing that!! Sooner as opposed to later than WHAT? Th.at is an open ended statement. I means absolutely nothing. That could mean sooner than 2015 as opposed to later than 2015. Dont mean to bash you but damn we can avoid using that one i think

I guess since folks are new here they cant have had any other experiences in life? Come on they didnt just hatch yesterday when they logged on here. It is also possible like me to have been reading these posts for years without being logged on. Give the guy a break! There is always somebody there waiting to criticize. Jeeeezzz

( A little bit of correction on the phrasing there. Just for my own sake. Oh the name I chose had nothing to do with Dinar! I know where I am called and I am not weak in that faith. I am prepared for the day the Lord says is coming. Make no mistake about it. I am full in that faith. I have done my share of research, probably more than most on any site. I know that there are many positive news articles, but I also know whos hand many people put their faith in. Maliki , Shabibi and the rest are only a few who seem to be in control. But just the same as in our government, there are many string pullers that we will never know, and can change things in an instant. And they have. Believe me I really want this thing to happen, but just as the post title says, Im losing faith that it will. Too many hands and gurus in the Dinar jar, and yet even the supposed Guru's dont have a clue.

I quit believing anything Okie or his cronies had to say a long time ago, I read the news here every day, the real news never has anything whatsoever to say about a revaluation of any kind. The financial news networks and true bank stories all say the same. Nothing. As far as i can tell, the people that say it isnt going to happen have been absolutely correct! The predictions of the naysayers have it. 100% correct so far.

As bad as I hate to say it, Im beginning to feel like really nobody knows what they are talking about. Looking back over the years doing research on this dinar thing it seems that it has become a vicious circle. Always gonna happen soon, and always a good excuse why they were wrong. Am I alone in this feeling? Im sure I am not. Others may not admit it, but my hope is fading fast. With every date come and gone and more dates always on the horizon, I find myself NOT reading the posts because I dont want to get excited, then let down again. I cannot believe that the powers that be in this and other countries, would let it come to the point it has. Look I know Ill probably get plenty of negs on this post but thats what i feel like, I havent put all of my eggs in this basket and have not over invested. But that doesnt mean I cant pray that this thing would happen. I have read almost every blog and forum (including this one which is by far the most grounded) But it seems that even the ones that seem intelligent are just people wanting to be followed, no matter who it hurts, Every Friday it says the same thing, and when mid week comes it seems its always Friday. So many people supposedly in the know with intel they gather from God knows where? If it were truly intel at least most of them would line up with each other. They are as far apart as our political parties, I dont expect a smart**** response from anyone, I guess Im just venting and had to write it down to see if im alone in it.

Anyone but me notice that all of the original gurus on the Okie machine have changed to people we never heard of? Now all of a sudden there are new folks called Gurus that Im supposed to not believe? Man its gettig tough out there. I would like somebody that I dont want to believe in to hang around so that I dont have to develop mistrust in someone new every four months. lol Just an observation folks.

Damn That was good!! This is probably the best intel ive read since ive been on this site! I couldnt have said it better myself! Ten attaboys from this end

Somebody want to tell me exactly what a Dinar holder looks like? Apparently this bank lady knows. and 10 per?? Id be all over that!

I guess Okie is the only one who is allowed to publish misinformation on his site. No one can make POSTINGS THAT ARE ERRONOUS AND INCORRECT. Can you believe he actually said this? THIS SITE DOES NOT AGREE WITH ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO MAY GIVE FALSE OR MIS-LEADING INFORMATION? LOL

Oct 7 1:24 PM [..OKIE OIL MAN] PUBLIC NOTICE--THIS SITE IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE POSTING'S OF INDIVIDUAL PARTICIPANTS AND DOES NOT ENDORSE ANY RATE OR DATE GIVEN. WE ARE A PUBLIC SITE AND CAN NOT CONTROL THE POSTINGS OF INDIVIDUAL'S OR THEIR OPINIONS AND DOES NOT ENDORSE OR PROMOTE ANY SALES OF ANY PRODUCT OR SERVICE. AS ANY PUBLIC SITE THEIR WILL BE POSTINGS THAT ARE ERRONOUS AND INCORRECT . THIS SITE DOES NOT AGREE WITH ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO MAY GIVE FALSE OR MIS-LEADING INFORMATION. WHILE THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS A GUARANTEE OF OUR CONSTITUTION WE CAUTION ANYONE POSTING NOT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT RIGHT. MODS PLEASE RE-POST THIS MANY TIMES EVERY DAY HENCEFORTH. THIS SITE WILL BE MONITORED FOR ANYONE WHO MAY BE MIS-LEEDING THE SITE AND THEY WILL BE BANNED THIS INCLUDES MOD'S ADMINISTRATORS AND EACH INDIVIDUAL. I guess Okie is the only one who is allowed to publish misinformation on his site. No one can make POSTINGS THAT ARE ERRONOUS AND INCORRECT. Can you believe he actually said this? THIS SITE DOES NOT AGREE WITH ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO MAY GIVE FALSE OR MIS-LEADING INFORMATION? LOL Iknow I know I usually dont bring stuff from Okie over here but i just thought this was too funny!

I think that this is one of the first days that I have been on the different guru sites and NOBODY says it will RV tomorrow! There may be hope for us yet! In fact it seems as if most are backing off of close dates at all. A good portion are talking 2012. I dont like that too much but id rather hear that than tomorrow tomorrow every day! Since nobody has said it maybe it will happen! That would make all the gurus wrong! lol OK im calling the RV just because nobody else did! Tomorrow! LOL Just kidding, I know nothing about it, I have no intel or no sources. But I think my chances are just as good! LOL

Okie Oil Man on OOM Mon night 09/26/2011 8:06 PM [..OKIE OIL MAN] I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DINAR.-STARTING TOMMOROW SOMETHING AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS--STARTING TOMMOROW SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN THAT WILL EFFECT ALL OF MANKIND WORLD WIDE--I AM NOT A CONSPIRICY THEORIST BUT HAVE INTEL IN STATING ALL OUR GOVERMENT AND THE GOVERMENTS OF THE WORLD ARE GOING TO BE IN UNDER GROUND BUNKERS--AS TO WHAT THAT INDICATES I HAVE NO IDEA. TOMMOROW THE USA AND OTHER NUCLEAR NATIONS ARE GOING ON DEFCON 1 WHICH IS THE HIGHEST STATE OF READINESS POSSIBLE. ALL OF OUR MAJOR ENTITIES INCLUDING NASA IS GOING UNDERGROUND--I HAVE HEARD DIFFERENT EXPLANATIONS AS TO WHY THIS IS TO HAPPEN BUT THEY SOUND PRETTY FAR OUT TO ME AND I WILL NOT POST WHAT I HAVE HEARD IS GOING TO HAPPEN----PRAY AS NEVER BEFORE THAT WHATEVER IS GOING TO TRANSPIRE WILL NOT BE AS DETREMENTAL AS I AM LED TO BELIEVE IT MAY BE. FINALLY! Something that I hear from OKIE brings me comfort. I guess we better pray his record continues huh? He's moved from calling the RV to calling the destruction of the planet. Damn that intel is good.

Ok Musky, Ive been reading your posts over a short time. Its obvious that you have a very strong opinion on Dinar and RV. Its also obvious that you think it will never happen. So exactly what is it that causes you to visit these forums? Do you just want to be seen? Or is your sole purpose to make others feel like you are the authority? Sounds a whole lot like Okie to me. I too question many things that people post here, but the RV WILL HAPPEN. I cant say I know when, or to what rate, but if you have spent ANY time researching, or doing you homework, you would also know that it will happen. If you are'nt interested in anything but essentially calling everyone who knows the RV will happen an idiot, you truly need to find another way to occupy your time. This portion of the forum is for those who are "interested" in the RV. GO AWAY!