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Perfect... Is this as obvious to you as it is me? Thanks for your post...

You lost me in that you pinned USA and ISRAEL in some fight that ISRAEL should fight alone? I believe ISRAEL has been in that place for a long time and other than politically they dont need the USA. Are you trying to say that all the things going on in the middle east is due to ISRAEL? LOL I know you are smarter than to say that but it sure is coming across this way. Why would you even ellude to that? I bet this has more to do with other intrest groups etc than ISRAEL. Interesting....

I think NO. LOL What I see are people who use a term ZIONIST to pin hole a group of people and behind the word is prejudism or antisamitism. You can wrap it up how ever you want to but it is still the same old story. The word ZIONIST refers to a group formed long ago. Look it up and read about it. Yet, there are some people and conspiracy mongers who will use this term to satisfy there view of a possible group. Rothchilds etc. It really is not true but you need to seek out this knowledge yourself. You can find info on any view you want these days based on things found on the internet and it does not make it true. In my view of things there are powerful people in this world doing a lot covertly to control or shift power, money, oil, wars etc but they are not jews. It is not about jews verses nonjew. Has nothing to do with ISRAEL or any faith. They are smart enough to know how to stay out of the lime light and away from any direct media. Yet, you can take this group and call them anything. Why ZIONISTS? You use your own mind to decifer this. To me it is clearly a way to blame the NEO ZIONISTS or NEO JEWS or ISRAEL etc etc. It is purely what it looks like. If it looks like **** and smells like **** it is probably ****. SAME THING HERE. I have seen this on this site off and on by the same people. Blame the jews. It is easy to say ohhh not the jews the ZIONISTS. Then they will name ROTHCHILDS and a list of mostly jews. The fact that some powerful people in this world are jews doesnt have anything to do with the fact that they are JEWISH. Then lets look at ISRAEL. They say let's not help Israel at all. Not bomb IRAN or help in any way. Incredible that so many of our troops have been killed due to IRAN who eithe rplace men or weapons to distroy our troops and yet these people say OHHH NO. Dont help ISRAEL. Our biggest allie in that region. The only peaceful and truely democractic friendly nation in that region and they want to bring it down. AMAZING REALLY... The guys who should be looked at are the very wealthy few in those oil rich nations who have NEVER helped their own people or build up their own. The propaganda of hate there is directed from an early age at ISRAEL and AMERICA. Yet, these people do not look at this at all. One said to me we wont bow down to Bibi or ISRAEL or maybe they meant to jews. LOL Trust me there are few jews who would even care. The one peaceful religion on earth that doesnt tell people believe what we do or else. This is the one so many attack. It is always an amazing thing to me. Surprising no but amazing yes! So all I can do is say read. Find the best sources and read. If you want to believe the BUSH family helped bring down the twin towers or anything else you can find it online. There is a ton of fear turned to hate. It is much more difficult to find the opposite. Lastly this is my opinion based on what I read and know. I am fairly positive my view is right but I am open to learn from any reliable source. The hard part is finding that on this topic here. I wish you all peace. Hopefully those who continue to post this nonsense will stop. It gets VERY OLD... Iran is NOT building Nuclear Warheads? Why wont they allow inspectors in to their reactor sites? What do they have to hide? Why are they building many sites underground? Where do you get your information? How do you know what you are saying? That to me is saying that Israel wants to bomb Iran for no reason at all... Does that make sense to you? Also why has IRAN threatened to bomb Israel etc. Of course lately the president of IRAN has retracted or revised what he said. Please tell me how you can say what you do with such certainty? And finally here you have it:..... The truth of the matter is that the font of Zionism is Judaism People curse the jews here... Just using a different name or angle to it. I like to call it for what it really is. Ignorance! Curious about what authority you use the words of the bible and say as if it has any bearing on the "so called" jews today? You do know what the bible says about judgement or interpretation, right? I will pray for you my brother.

I dont think we need to get troops in harms way for ISRAEL. I believe if ISRAEL is in trouble, so are we. I am not educated enough to talk about stratigic operations in terms of countries and such. I tend to do my best to listen to those who are educated in their field. I dont always trust everything I hear, but we certainly will have a disagreement here if we probe enough. I respect our differences... I dont think we know enough to fully understand ISRAEL and its situation. We can look at this politically, economically or religiously. I learn from others but some times it seems like a lot of BS from uneducated sheep. Just my opinion. Like this DINAR information. You hear a lot of fluff. You and I can believe what we choose to. I think it will RV. I hope it will RV. Will it RV? Do you believe everything you hear and what are the sources. Do you ever question that too? I believe we are all more ignorant on these topics than we would like to believe. AS ALWAYS Peace....

Yes but to these people it is not a game! It is as much a game as religious groups who do the same. Greed and power will always be at the helm of man from the rich to the poor. If we advanced enough none of us would fight against one another and we would join forces to create a great world. That dream wont be realized until we all advance in our thinking enough to realize that the best things arent things. Hate and fear drive so many who are easily lead to believe a group has power over them. This idea keeps us thinking we are powerless and slaves to others or many of us are SHEEP. It is actually this thinking which keeps us weak. Our lives are brief if we look at the span of time the earth has been here. We will be gone quickly if our lives last even 100 years. Contrast this with the Earth's time here. We are but a flick of light which comes and goes too fast to matter and yet look how we all boast. So, those who sit here and complain and rant and point fingers to me are like children who just dont get it. It is a BIG waste of time and thought. MONEY is great but it doesnt buy all the dreams or happiness many think it will. You still wont be able to trust those around you! Everyone wants what they dont have and so many if they know you are rich will come to steal it. Love and happiness.... Money doesnt buy either or health. The mind is a terrible thing to waste. So all you JEW zionist fear conspiracy theory and jet exhaust trail, 911 etc thinkers.... LOL You must be bored. LEAD BY EXAMPLE OF YOUR LIFE! Who do you spend your time with? Who are your friends? How much do YOU give back and help others? How do you feel at the end of your day looking at yourself? THIS IS WHAT MATTERS... That is definately MY VIEW. In the end of my life it wont be anyone but me responsible for how I loved my life. PEACE to those who GET IT and if you dont it is in my view YOU who are part of the problem. Sans TRUST ME The jews DO NOT WANT TO BE WORSHIPPED and THEY DONT CARE IF YOU DO...

Education and knowledge doesn't come too easy to some... Ohh sorry, I dont want to hurt your feelings. GET OVER YOURSELF and ZIONISTS do not exist anymore. Why do I waste my time? (((ROLLING MY EYES)))

Capn They will never ellude to the proper time. It could mean MUCH sooner. The fact that they keep mentioning it is good though. It can be next week month or... year, but I believe sooner than later. Think about why they would say next year and release it sooner... If they didnt they would be in for a flood which would be counter active. China said NEVER in all their media the day before they released theirs (as a side note). I personally have been holding my breath for this way too long and dont know how those who have been in this for 7 or 8 years can handle it. Good things are coming but when...? NO ONE HERE KNOWS. Period. Peace... Dont even believe them when they say next year... maybe sooner and I hope not later.

EVEN TRADE. When they revalue they lose nothing. This was so hard for me to understand a while back and I think the basics of this article. Yet I think it also isnt easy to explain. So many try to crunch the numbers and of course that makes sense. What I believe few can grasp is that when they RV and we trade back they dont lose anything. The actual trade is EVEN. I heard this from a guy who was talking about the Dinar a few years ago and I just couldnt grasp that concept. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A SIMPLIFICATION. Any thoughts on this would be great. They CAN revalue their currency and the amount of which must be reasonable but for them to come up with a high amount is not unreasonable either. I personally just hope this happens already. The WAITING is over the top! Peace all.

Id love to write down all the facts which most here would find some way of discrediting. I dont care who hands out this symbol or why. I did see it and still think it is childish. As for ZIONISTS who were a group from the early 1900's as a movement to form an ISRAELI NATION. They no longer exist. Yet to hang this on a group of people is incredible. I even heard one say the BUSH family are Zionists. I find anyone who tries to rally a group with out TRUE FACTS and then direct it towards jews is ignorant. YES it is as much my "feeling" as those who use "feelings" to back up their hate. I am more impressed with the fact that in todays day and age as a society we still find people actually doing that. There are conspiracy theories out there all over the place. MAYBE some of it is real or true. IT IS A THEORY and many will swear it is true inspite of the facts. They will twist facts or find a few facts to make some outlandish claim. I think we all need to be a bit more wide eyed ad cautious of this type of thinking. Do I believe there is a group of very powerful people in our world who have controling interests and will do many covery things to manipulate power etc.... YES I think that is very possible. Do I think they are ZIONISTs or JEWs? NO WAY! If you gather all the most powerful people in the world and write a list you will find a VERY small percentage are jews. So, why dont you dig a little more and come up with a better name for this NEO group you all so easily turn to with your QUOTE UNQUOTE facts. You want to hate JEWS, and that makes you feel good... your life. I am just trying my best to make a point which possibly wont work... that who ever these people are may possibly much smarter than you think. They are much more ellusive than a group of a few JEWS sitting in England manipulating our currencies and gold value. What I find very interesting are jews calling some who run the world zionists too. Look up who the ZIONISTS were. You want to teach me something I really have read a lot of this the last few years here. I find it an interesting theory but when you dig deep you might find it doesnt hold water. Not to some Zionist Group. As for ISRAEL and going after IRAN... I dont think it is as easy as simply bombing IRAN. I dont believe they will do this solo. I also believe the threat is credible and real. ISRAEL doesnt need IRAN nor would they feel the need to go after them if not continually threatened by them. Do any of you forget that many of the arms found on terrorists or those who went up against our millitary in IRAQ were given arms by IRAN? They are doing their best to disrupt any efforts for freedom and peace and democracy in that region. YET, maybe I am wrong. Maybe the media is misleading me. Maybe you are also wrong or being mislead...? In the end I am curious what you think you can do about it anyway. You said they should do something about it and I say to you... Many who rant here should do the same. If you are right please tell me how you are going to make some change? ALSO if IRAN nukes anyone it will be our problem too. If you dont think so you are very ignorant... I look forward to hearing this response. Peace and sorry if I am passionate about hearing things which to me seem very ANTI JEW.

Please all those who even care to take the time to read this look with open eyes. NEO ISRAEL? There is so much wrong in this post that I am disgusted that it is allowed to remain. Yet, freedom of speach is great. Those of you with an education and that gut feeling that there is definitive anti JEW and anti Israel written all over this post. They even go as far as putting up a symbol which is responsible for killing so many innoscent and often defense-less and opressed people. The issue to me is that so many dont call a spade a spade and allow this ignorance to spread. If enough would stand up and say what they feel instead of just saying nothing MAYBE this type of crap would stop. What I LOVE about the people of the JEWISH FAITH and the ISRAELI's is the culture. The people are innovative and accepting of most others and they are strong in spirit. Not the people of the past who would allow others to slap them in the face and turn the other cheek. Jews have been blamed for a lot through out history. This type of thinking is much older than any of us here. I dont agree with all of Israel's policys but they are surrounded by hate. They MUST be strong and protect themselves or they would have been wiped off the face of this earth a long time ago. ALSO, with out ISRAEL the USA would be much weaker in that region. They are a USA allie. They contribute more to our medical science than any other nation next to the USA. YOU haters will blame the economy on the jews and say they own the banks and also hollywood! The facts show a VERY DIFFERENT STORY. Yet, most people will twist facts to justify their belief. Look at what is going on the the middle east and the blame being put on the USA. I dont expect any ignorant person to fully relate or even agree with me. I do hope those who have been educated enough to know better to stand up. Giving out SWASTIKAS to anyone and thinking that is OK as a symbol or boast is WRONG! I would be more than happy to discuss this in person. IT ISNT A LAUGHABLE THING! MODS, Please do the right thing here and close this. This is disgusting. Thank you and to all others PEACE...

from trillions of dinars in currency to billions may possibly mean in circulation. What many refuse to understand is that by RVing there is no loss. The trade is even regardless of the amount. In other words it works on both sides of the trade in. We shall see...

Well, that is why you are speculating. If they did this straight up they would loose a lot, dont you agree. Do you think they are going to be upfront about any of this? Have the Arab Nations ever been honest about anything? It would be incredibly harmful for them to spell out their plan to us or the world. Yet we look at each detail and try to figure out what they will do. We try to figure out WHY GW Bush allowed this currency to be bought by us? Why did our people go there last year to help them out with their currency system? Why did we set up the current currency and in fact we own it? WHY? Many unanswered questions which seem to be put in place for a very good reason beyond what we can accurately pin point, THIS IS of course IMHO. I believe in this as coming to a nice RV or why the heck would I be here wasting so much time and effort on the little sliver of details? I am definately not into emotional roller coasters. So as much as I do believe in this I also do believe they are feeding us with chum bait to keep us barely in this... We are not even on their minds but the rest of the world is. They need to painbt some type of picture to show growth with out showing an form of volnerability with the plan of their currency. We can all be wrong, but what if we are right? So, if I am just a dreamer based on what I have heard and believe to be very possible, please set me straight. If you own Dinar why would you speculate on a down side to this? Wish you the best, Excuse my typos,,, Its late and I am multi tasking... THANKS

100% true and there is more to an RV than just that. At times it is frustrating to express that this is much more complex than simply looking at OIL PRODUCTION or GOLD... There is security of the government, ore production and gas, precious stones and metals, food production, other sources of energy, military protection and the list goes on. They must have a currency recognized by the WTO in order to be approved for trade within the WTO. This is not as simple as some here would try to leave others to believe or what some try to link in a simple structure. IMHO we will all do well and this will benefit IRAQ as one of the strongest currencies in the M.E. as has been said in numerous articles. We wait with baited anticipation. Peace.

LOL, I guess we simply dont agree with eachothers oppinion. The difference is I dont shot this investment or IRAQ and its development down. I gave you an article as proof. This is your response. Like I said about educating people... some want to read and learn and grasp knowledge and some just want to find what they can to support their belief. Sorry you dont like it. GFO can mean many things. Go Find Others... Good Friendly Options... Or my way of saying go find another place to air your bad attitude. Now you can put it on me and that is fine by me. You can ignore me too. I just go by the constant negitivity of the few who come here screaming it is never going to amount to much etc. Or who say to me I am not giving facts when I do. PEACE is something some of us try to live by. Optimism is also some thing some of us live by. I keep asking why the humbug types keep coming here? What do they get out of it? Maybe you can answer that for me. Thanks in advance. Lastly you didnt come asking anything that I responded to. You made your point known and then asked if I had anything to back up my points. You also trashed what I had to say. I wish you the best of luck on this as a Dinar Holder like my self.

Hey LEESB. Why dont you compare China with California too. After all Hillarious compared IRAQ to China... and I am thinking you might know better then her. Everyone has a truth and it is how you deliver it and in what context that makes you who you are. Speculation is a word some here have yet to look up. Also, where we get our facts? Do we trust the source? In the end though all of us would stand firmly convicted on weak grounds. All we can do is wait and hopefully keep our cool, in spite of some here...

I want to say to those who dont know me that I am sorry if what I say to some of the NAY SAYERS is a bit harsh, but I dont see the point in some coming here to completely throw dirty all over this process of expectation for the rest of us. They come here with a know it all attitude of doom and gloom in a speculative investment, whose true future action is as guarded as the codes we have for nukes! IRAQ is in the process of building up QUICKLY! All you have to do is go back 2 years. Politically a lot has been accomplished and GPD, market investment, production, rebuilding is moving at incredible rates. Yet, some like to see a glass 3/4 full as empty! They live their lives as such. People who think they know it all piss off those of us who actually do... lol I wish all of you educated, respectful, optimistic, helpful co Dinar Holders a great week and evening. As always PEACE...

HERE WE GO AGAIN... OK MR SMARTNESS. I will help you with that issue of rectalitus. I will give you a report and you can verify the story. There are many but again, people like you come here to be what? REALISTS? Well if you think this is a bad investment get the Hell Out! If you come here to ruffle feathers with your know it all doom and gloom knowledge please spare me. Thanks for recognizing my genius buddy boy. READ USA TODAY (front page) June 7th 2012. It isnt all positive, but it shows some direction. Since you like to think you are putting me in my place, here is just one of many examples. There is my small education for YOU personally. Now GFO! Peace to the rest of you.

LOL Wow after reading what you explained in the first post it all makes sense... I guess it is easy and they have only oil and no other means in which to base their GDP. I suppose all the new construction and malls going up mean nothing too, because they are a country with nothing to stand on. Even the history there and tourism etc is a pipe dream. In fact the many oil wells going up and crazy amounts of oil also mean nothing because all they have to do is just RV. I just never even realized the simplicity of it all. So now that we are done being sarcastic and simplifying this whole matter, do you have something worth talking about. Because to educate anyone here on the few details and facts that we do have is close to as frustrating as the wait involved in this Dinar. To me this is a wasted post. Any more negative people in this site? Can we just have a tab where LOPsters and negative seekers can all pump one another? I am sick of it. The rest of you PEACE and keep the news coming.

Here is a fairly logical question for those of you who think this will be a lop situation... Why have they been gathering up the 1000K or more notes if it will be a simple 25 = 25K? Why would they care how many of these large denom notes are in circulation in country if this were the case? You dont need to be a genius to see much of what they are trying to accomplish. You also at the same time must use your own mind to disseminate the articles you read. IMHO we are still on course for a nice return.

What I love in this article is when he says "indicating that the prolonged period of currency exchange will encourage some of mafias to know every detail and facilitates forgery." They have one of the newest and most secured currencies in the world! So this is hype and smoke. Which excites me a lot, because the more they try to indicated a longer period using these type of atricles the closer we seem to be getting. Thanks for the post!!!!

Adam, The articles have come out now, as it did over a year ago comparing this to Turkey's RD. Can you please explain how it might be similar or dissimilar? What do we trust and what should we be looking at to affirm the potential value of the future dinar? Thanks for all you have done and thank you in advance.

DO you really feel this is the same? We shall see. I dont believe it is the same but the format might be similar in terms of process not rate. Yet, we have no inside information. I hope the process is done in a smart and upward way as it most likely should based on so much. We all sit and wait... Dont cry that the sky is falling until it does.

AGAIN, CHINA said NO RV and wont happen EVER! Next day they released their new rate. If any of you think they will say to all of us and the world, HEY we are RVing and guess what this is the rate. OR if you think they will say we are releasing a new lower denomination and the old ones wont be worth more.... Basically we wont honor the old notes. Tell you all what, we are going to simply make a new 1 dinar worth the old 1000 note. I doubt that would be smart for them... Can they do this to everyone ? YES, all of the nay sayers CAN be right. They can screw the world over and just say TOUGH. Will they? Now this is the question to use your own common sense with. WILL THEY? I seriously doubt given their current progress and need for trade they will just devalue the old notes. Maybe I am a dreamer, but Im not the only one.... lol They are possibly trying to instill a lack of confidence in the currency exchange to keep us all at bay for a reason. THIS makes the most sense. All IMHO. Peace.

I tried to modify what I typed above... This is a very interesting point. Yet, what baffels me if that GW BUSH allowed for us to buy this when it was issued. Why would this be done if we have no trade back? It just doesnt seem to make sense. IRAQ wants trade outside their country. How could they not honor the current currency? I suppose a plane ticket to IRAQ might be in order post RV. lol THAT SUCKS!

You cant issue for trade of a currency outside that country. It is issued for trade within that country. I really do not see the problem in this statement. Unless you print and trade that currency outside the country, which makes no sense. The currency they have they want to use outside their country and not keep it or they would not allow it outside at all. Logic needs to be used here too. As for a 2 year flip to the new currency, this is great news for all of us. Using both side by side means that they will most likely maintain the value of the current currency while issuing the new. Just like the old 1000 dollar bills in the USA. I guess we will all see how this goes down.