proverbs

Do you have any for sale still??

How much are you asking?

Is it sold yet? and where are you located. mike

I have to agree. I think that in gereral terms the majority of the financial lower class and much of the middle class are naive or ignorant or have never been trained properly on how to handle money, or even how to think of money. And HOW you think of money determines how you handle it. If you don't understand it , how can you use it properly... Or even make proper decisions regarding your moneys fate, not to mention if and who you hire as your counsel and managers. As for the government wanting or not wanting millions of millionaires.....That would require far more debate and facts to be brought into the light. Suffice it to say "a wise and discerning people will look at all the actions (not words) made by those in charge (government) and in some fasion, chart those actions and analyze them, and come to a wise and accurate conclusion regarding what their agenda and intentions might be." To summarize: Millions of conservatives that are educated and informed about how this nation was originally intended to function, who suddenly come into millions of dollars, would be a Major threat to any liberals remaining in office for any length of time. The fear of the principle that lies within that can be easily seen in liberal need and activity to dumb down this nation so that they can maintain and evey increase their support base of voters. The list goes on as I said. This is only one small example and probably a poor one at that. So I agree that they are fully aware that they can take away from the unaware and unprepared. Hey, thats kind of a nice quote, I may have to use that as my own little saying. My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Hosea 4:6 Proverbs mike

Thanks !! All better now. Proverbs

Hey there Markinsa, I've been trying to renew my mother in laws VIP but had the same problem as the other vip member. I tried the link you posted and the page comes up the says "THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THIS WEBSITES SECURITY CERTIFICATE" What now ???? do you think I need to contact Sara or Adam??? HELP ??? Proverbs mike

I'm thinking that a lot of the good folk on this site could do a whole lot of GOOD if in office. Proverbs

The UN wants to make the USA a third world country with no freedom. Just look at their REAL actions , not the good ole boy front they put up. in other words , don't listen to their words, look at their deeds. Its pretty clear who they consider their enemy and target....US. Oh and we can't leave Israel off the target list. But of course , any one who is a REAL friend of the USA is no friend of theirs. SO boot out the UN, Get rid of the FED, Send the anti american politicians off shore to some country that reflects their beliefs and actions, close our borders, equalize trade or else don't trade with "them", Get back to following the principles that our founding fathers intended.......oh, I could go on and on. Lets all head to Belieze for an Umbrella drink. Proverbs Man You said it !!!!! Can't add to it other than to quote some scripture verses. Blessings to our True america loving citizens, and permanent jail time to our domestic traitor/ terroist enemies. Proverbs

You got that right. 1: continuing to do it 2: continuing to add on !!! 3: diversifing in every common sensical way that is feasible. Re reading the book of Proverbs regularly helps. Proverbs

Howdy Domeman, Have you any dinar left to sell??? I"m close by...Milwaukee area and could meet you some where...if you still have some to sell. What say you neighbor??? email me at Justneedgod@yahoo.com proverbs mike

Hi, Do you still have your dinar? I'm not in your area but maybe we could arrange something. proverbs

Hi, I'm interested in your dinar ,DO you still have them?? Proverbs

Yeah, I kinda echo that. I'm platinum VIP , IBC and don't have the camera to do the job. Hmmm I might have to see if I can borrow one. I do have an old 35 mm camera . Plus I know Adam or Sarah knows that I have the 1000 dinar bill from becoming Platinum. Plus my wife is now becoming platinum. :D one smile for each of us. But if thats not enough I'll see if my wife can do her IT thing and make the picture thing happen. Proverbs

Great Post, Thanks

Very interesting.....I'll have to go back and reread your post. Proverbs 20milliondinar, When you say you are looking for a partner, what exactly did you have in mind?

[Greetings and blessings ExecConsult, I've been considering doing the Selfdirected ROTH IRA and purchasing the dinars that way. Are you aware of any reliable companys that will purchase dinars with the self directed ROTHs that they offer?? Others on DV have suggested ENTRUST administrative services. Would you agree with this? I want to diversify by doing the IBC as well as other options. THe ROTH seems like a good way to go IF we can get the dinars into the ROTH IRA. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thanks Proverbs mike

my guess; 157,625,000. Proverbs

NICE post check. Interesting. Love to chat with you about your faith sometime. DOC, I like what you've said in your response. I would love to chat with you in more detail about your thoughts on it all. I could add so much to what you've written... but you know the saying " I would much rather see a sermon than listen to one" So I won't get on my soap box. I would add this though: A GOD who created ALL that is seen and unseen , did so in a wonderful and indescribable fashion. This world has since fallen into its current state of chaos. GOD did NOT cause the trouble we are in, BUT, HE can use what is happening to draw us near to him, bless and inform us, and give us the peace that we can't find in anything that is of the world. And if he chooses to open the flood gates of financial prosperity to His followers He can do it thru any means ...including the rebuilding of a nation and their currency < the dinar> if HE so chooses. Can't wait for the Rapture !!! A nice $3 dollar RV pre rapture wouldn't be bad either. GO RV GO I wish GODs blessings of Wisdom, Understanding, Discernment and Spiritual Rebirth and Renewal to you all. PROVERBS

Greetings all and Adam, I couldn't find anything in posts on this specific topic , can you help. Sorry if this is a redundancy. MY children are under age (under 18 years old). Are there any restrictions on them that would keep them from cashing in their own Dinars at a VIP bank using their VIP certificate......restrictions from the bank, from VIP , or from the State or the IRS?????? Chime in one and all if you have relyable info on any portion of this multi-pronged question. Thanks in Advance. And Thanks for all you help and work Adam. Looking forward to meeting you , fellow wisconsinite. Proverbs

I have to agree. There is much to learn from the book of proverbs ! It paints a very very accurate picture of the heart and mind of man: and so compared with how mankind has acted through out history- it is proven accurate. He who learns from history is wise but he who ignores the lessons of history is doomed to repeat it. Blessings to all who heed wisdom. Go RV ...so we can bless many more. Proverbs

Greetings Mark (ExecConsult), Your expertise and experience is appreciated. In a perfect world the IRS's double talk in the regs could easily be used against them...or so it would seem in a rational fair perfect world. But then the IRS (as it is) wouldn't exist in that world so there would be no need. But living in this world I still have spunk and often am driven to fight (argue) for what is right even when up against a big bully(when they want to be). So that leads me to ask the same question that is posted above. What IS the difference between an investment in Dinars and an investment in Stock, mutual funds or real estate? And thus why is one capital Gains and the other not? Thanks for your help and all your posts Mark. I do have to compliment you on your wise thoughts on how to prepare for a worst case scenario in dealing with the trecherously untrustworthy and unclear. Paying the full long term capital gains tax of 15 % while holding back the balance that would equal regular income taxes in a interest earning account is very wise and cautious. When dealing with poisonous snakes , always carry anti-venom serum just in case you get bit. My research with CPA's and other tax attorneys has been coming up with an answer of "15 % long term capital gains" for dinars held over a year. If these "Professionals" lead their clients to file as long term capital gains.....it would seem to me that an awful lot of well meaning law abiding people could be caught off guard and unaware in the tangled web woven by the king of Loop Holes-the IRS. And since our current administration has pushed the IRS's go go go button, I think its safe to say that many individual dinar sellers will be hearing an aggressive knock on their door. I mean think of it, full regular taxes as opposed to Long term capital gains taxes would mean Millions if not Billions in additional funds in IRS coffers. With those Kind of numbers why wouldn't they jump thru those loop holes they created for just a day as this ...RV day cashin. Just a thought but I wonder if all of the additional IRS employee's that have been put on the job are , in part, a preparation for RV day? Just a thought. Thanks again. Proverbs

All the more reason to be wise about all wealth and possessions no matter how much or how little. Trust is earned and trusting the FB world or any of the world before it has shown itself to be trustworthy is simply foolishness, apathy gone viral. He who learns from history is wise, and he who ignores history or thinks he is immune from the treacheries of mankind in history is a complete FOOL. The most informative and historically accurate place to research how to avoid the pitfalls of dealing with people and surviving any relationships with them can be found in the book "PROVERBS" which, for those who have never read it cover to cover, can be found in the Christian "BIBLE". Read it, learn from it, and increase your odds of surviving an RV of mass proportions. May GOD's Best intentions, Blessings and Hopes come to fruition for all of you. And my best wishes as well, including an immediate high end RV...and no Government tricks or shinanigans. PROVERBS