Francie26

I think this is true, but that this is only part of it. I understand that the United States, itself, also owns a lot of dinar, a huge amount, and that we will be able to use it to both buy cheap oil and pay off the national debt. At any rate, let's hope that's how it works out.

It isn't over yet. Keep your day job until the middle of next week. (That's when it will happen). Do you remember reading several articles saying that there would be lots of confusing chatter and wild stories out there just before it happens? That's all this is. I think it's coming, and fast, and we will all be delighted with it when it gets here. It's a wild ride, though. So for now, hang onto your hat, and someday you'll tell your grandchildren . . . yadda, yadda, yadda. lol

MotorCity, thank you for your kindness and decency. Your goodness is a bright light in a world that is often dim.

Now just listen to it try to sound cool. Thinks using silly, uncouth language gives it an edge. lol We can feel sorry for this one. Poor baby. This little goofus is just way out of its league here.

I bought all my dinar from Ali, and he was always fair, honest, and above board with me. I would deal with him again. I see no reason for him to be subject to a lot of complaints and inunendos from people who are suspicious and playing a mud slinging game with Ali's good name. He doesn't deserve that. If you were swindled by him, I could understand it, but since all of you are just guessing, I'd say you have the wrong man in your sights.

Here is what I wrote--"when the dinar revalues, and when our own currency is in so much trouble because Obama's failed policies have led to severe inflation" In both instances I said "when" this happens, which suggests it hasn't happened yet, but I expect it to happen soon after the RV. As to the causes, I think our ship of state could have been turned around if people in either party had stepped up to do it, but since they didn't, and since things have been made incredibly worse by Obama's huge taxing/spending sprees, I put the final meltdown in his corner. We may have been cruising on the Titanic for many years, but Obama's policies have put the iceberg in our path. Others may think differently, and that is their choice, but this how I see it. Take it for what it is worth. I don't intend to argue this point, nor do I intend to defend my view any further. I don't mean this to sound angry, defensive, nor argumentative, since I don't feel that way at all, but I am entitled to believe what seems clearest to me, and I don't feel I should have to fight to defend myself or my beliefs. That may not be what you are leading into, but I've seen it happen here all too often. So this is all I have, or will have, to say regarding this matter.

And I appreciate your face, Keepm. lol Francie26

"I HAVE LOT’S OF EXPERIENCE IN MANY DIFFERENT FIELDS AND HAVE ACQUIRED A LITTLE WISDOM IN MOST OF THEM–FOR INSTANCE–NEVER SLAP A MAN WHO’S CHEWING TOBACCO"--Okie Oil Man And we are supposed to take our dinar wisdom from this genius. lol

Hmmmm . . . It's pretty good there. What are you trying to say?

Because it does??

"We're so "American." We act like everything happening in the world at any point in time has to be "about us!" Get real ppeople; this is about the Iraqi people and their being able to get on with their lives. If we weren't so "self absorbed" that would be a high priority for us too." Sorry, I disagree. Americans are the most generous, caring people in the world, and if they want to factor themselves into the equation now and then, they are entitled to do it. I notice we seldom hear of countries other than ours helping other nations very often, let alone bringing a whole nation freedom and prosperity. When has a Middle Eastern country come to the aid of Americans? It just doesn't happen, even in horrible emergencies. So I don't want to read about how selfish and self-centered Americans are because it just isn't true!!!

When I first bought dinar, I told four of my dearest friends about it, and I encouraged them to do the same. Not one of them did so. They acted like I was a fool for making this investment, and now they simply never mention it, and I'm sure all of them think I made a huge mistake. I think they are embarrassed for me because I was suckered into this. So be it. I shut up after getting their reactions. I simply stopped talking about it altogether. And I have stayed "shut up" about it ever since. If I have anything to say about it, I come here to say it, among fellow-buyers-of-the-dream, so to speak. I think when the dinar revalues, and when our own currency is in so much trouble because Obama's failed policies have led to severe inflation, my friends will wonder how I can still have money to spend, but I am not going to talk to them again about this. They had their chance, just as I did, and they chose not to take what they thought was a huge flyer, a risk beyond what they were willing to consider, and in fact, which they thought I was a fool for buying into. I don't want to be hard on them, but I am not going to make up for their shortsightedness when I am able to pay my bills and live my life, while they continue to struggle. I will be sad for them, but that is just how things go. (They are sad for me right now). lol Francie26

"It's just that Dog The Bounty Hunter wouldn't be my first choice of financial advisors that I'd ask to interpret foreign economic policy." Well, fortunately, Dog isn't here, but a very intelligent, capable, although somewhat spelling-limited, woman named BondLady is here, and she searches for news articles and does her research, and only then she comes up with some great analysis of what is happening in Iraq and with our dinar. I wouldn't trust Dog to do this either, but I trust BondLady.

Perhaps the primary difference is that Iraq is now a democracy, while Saudi Arabia is . . . not. So perhaps the people of Iraq need more spendable money available throughout their country than do those people in Saudi Arabia.

I've been saying the 28th and $3.22. I have no particular reason for saying this, but I think I'ver heard this date/rate somewhere before, and it stuck in my mind. Given that powerful connection, it's bound to be true, right??!! lol

"ALL of them need to go! Especially O and Harry Reid." And let us not forget Nancy Pelosi. (She is the only woman I have ever believed deserved to be drawn, quartered, and hung on the city gates).

"Crap, never took that class as you had to show up to pass..........LOL" Pokerplayer, I think you are one of my former students. haha Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/71824-watching-forex/#ixzz1QA6EsvwY

"It's a horrendous "cultural" thing which is extremely dfficult to erase. Especially in the small villages which is Africa's main reality.....I believe it's most practiced in the Afrcan Continent than in the Middle East. And it goes beyond Islam." Umbertino, I recognize the truth of your words, and thus, I sincerely apologize to you for blaming Islam, even in part, for this practice. I meant no disrespect to Islam, although I did (do) blame Islam, at least in part, for tolerating this situation. And for what it is worth, I truly am sure that many good Islamic people are as horrified as I am at this terrible treatment of other human beings, and at any culture that gives men the power, the ego, and the willingness to do such horrible life-altering damage to young girls, simply as a matter of routine, and for nothing more than to satisfy their own fears and appease their insecurities; however, it seems that every time I have seen mention of this horrible, widespread practice, Islam has not been far behind. Perhaps that is just coincidence, however; or perhaps it is simply a misconception on my part. I still think Islamic clergy, especially those in the Mid East and Africa where this mutilation is routinely praciced, should be concerned enough about the women in their culture that they would protect them from such treatment, at least from the pulpit. And if they don't do this, then I consider them equally to blame with the person who actually wields the knife, or in primitive areas, the tin can lid, used to mutilate little girls. But then . . . perhaps they do try to change this practice, and I just haven't heard of it. However, I also believe the clergy in those nations/continents who are in awe of God in all His Power and Glory, should be a bit frightened at their own presumption that anyone other than God, Himself, could possibly improve upon how He created other human beings, in this instance, women. I think these clergymen might consider that, since God created women just as they are, then how they are created is what God wanted, and that this is God's choice, not the male cultural elite. But I keep forgetting that in many extremely rural areas, women are not believed to even be human beings. Only men have that honor. Furthermore, for what it's worth, I am not a feminist. I am just a woman who quales and cringes in the face of widespread human cruelty being practiced or even tolerated in any part of the world. I would be just as vocal about such horrors if they were being practiced routinely against men, which has been done in the past, and which resulted in eunuchs, a term that makes most men cringe. I do, however, find myself completely bereft of concern for the feelings of men who still today practice such horrors against women, or even those who merely tolerate it, which explains, for the most part, how I can be so voracious about this sickeningly inhumane behavior. And I do sympathize with the plight of women who must tolerate such horrors for themselves and their little daughters in order to treated with dignity. I consider this to be a barbaric practice, but to be fair, I respect the men of those cultures who really are working diligently to bring their countries and cultures out of the Dark Ages and into a better world. But I am only one woman, and no matter how indignant I become, I still realize that this practice will take years if not centuries to be discarded. Thankfully, the world has men such as you both, Umbertino and coldwarvet!! Your words are warm and caring, and the world needs more male voices such as yours. OK, sermon over, preaching finished. lol Best regards and thanks, Umbertino, for your voice of reason. And you, too, coldwarvet!! Thanks much!!

"We were never suppose to be involved financially as far as Iraq was concerned. Regardless of what you may read, Iraq does not consider us their savior or friend. The thought that hundreds of thousands of Americans will become millionaires from their situation does not please them. However, they have no choice. If they do not RV, they lose. If they do, they win, but so does an awful lot of people from a country they do not like as well as the country itself." ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ These are people who have been fighting viciously with each other for as long as human beings have roamed the earth. Granted, I am speaking of the entire Middle East now, but these, collectively, are people whose cultures are so ancient that they witnessed the birth of all three of the major religions of the world. They have had centuries upon centuries to get it right, to build a system that supports individual liberties, and yet, that was not going to happen as long as they could kill each other. They were collectively stuck in the middle of the 7th century. But in recent years, they had begun to reach out and kill others in other countries/cultures throughout the world. Perhaps if they had kept their killing at home, they wouldn't have had to endure a war that you say they didn't want, didn't like, and which is supposedly why they don't like their "aggressors." I simply cannot find sympathy for them in my heart. Who were the original aggressors? It wasn't the United States of America. That is a fact. Their part of the Earth bred the monster who caused the death of thousands of people right here in our own country. And I, for one, am tired of being told that we are the aggressors, even if it is their view of matters, when these are a people who just as late as yesterday, June 22, 2011, finally at long last passed a law against female genital mutilation. As a woman, I feel that any culture which supports such a barbaric practice, or that supports even a single man who still, even today, supports such horrible female mutilation, is without redemption, and they deserve to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century. If they don't like it, so be it. Their decendents can someday appreciate us, even if they don't. And I am sure that the women of their world will, even if only secretly, dare to appreciate the changes that will eventually keep their young daughters from automatic mutilation and hateful forced marriages to old men simply for "sin" of being born a woman. And hopefully, our "forced aggression against them" will even help to keep the young sons of the Middle East from being sacrificed on the alter of a god who requires that they blow their young bodies into blood and body parts to satisfy old mens' needs to prove their faith in the medieval god, ALLAH, who is, no doubt, quite AKBAR!! The birth of anything is painful, as you can ask any mother throughout the world, and this is an entire highly entrenched culture, one with a very different, very old world view, which is finally being dragged into the current century, so if it causes pain, so be it. This will ultimately bring much more good than any pain they may think they have so recently "suffered" at our hands. We have also lost thousands of wonderful young lives to give them this magnificent gift, so I am not going to ever feel sorry for them about their current angst regarding Americans. I just won't!!!

It doesn't sound like a joke to me!! I was appalled when O did this! And yes, I'm tired of such behavior from him.

I don't always like what Keepm says, but I always like Keepm. Based upon what he thinks he knows (believes), he is always honest. Thus, in my view, he is entitled to say that he wants, brash or not. He doesn't appear to be the type who would just disappear because someone complained about him, though. Thank goodness!! lol

"at what point does this start to become more of a religion than a speculative investment?" Can't it be both?

Interesting article by Thomas Sowell on the new tax law on gold. http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2010/sep/28/new-gold-law-just-another-democratic-power-grab/

Very good insights!! Thank you!!

I want nothing to do with chuckst3r. To me, he is anathema. I appreciated highly the info we were being so freely given, the amount of work that was required to prepare it, and the clarity it provided regarding the dinar. I have seen no such contribuiton from chuckst3r. In my view, he has added no value at all to our Dinar Vet experience, while he has certainly cost us something quite valuable. In addition, his continuing behavior in smugly adding "fuel to the fire" of what many of us feel as a genuine loss is both unscrupulous and unconscionable.