Don Paul

The DInar will not RV until parliament votes on it. Period.

Clinton convenes mass meeting of U.S. ambassadors you figure out the REAL REASON WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State Hillarious Rodham Clinton is convening an unprecedented mass meeting of U.S. ambassadors. The top envoys from nearly all of America's 260 embassies, consulates and other posts in more than 180 countries will be gathering at the State Department beginning on Monday. Officials say it's the first such global conference. The gathering comes at a time of crisis in Egypt that could reshape dynamics in the Middle East, fallout from leaked diplomatic documents and congressional calls for sweeping cuts in foreign aid. Although the meeting has been called to discuss U.S. foreign policy priorities for 2011, officials say Clinton plans to meet personally with ambassadors from front-line states to hear about developments on the ground. Officials also expect that specific concerns about the WikiLeaks revelations will be raised.

FRANK WAS LEAD TO TALK DIRECTLY TO A MAN WHO IS IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM OF IRAQ. YOU WILL BE SHOCKED AT WHAT THIS MAN TELLS FRANK........ BEST INFO I HAVE EVER GOTTEN SO FAR WITH THIS INVESTMENT. THIS NEWS WILL IGNITE HOPE (dont shoot the messenger....ME) Conference Playback Information Playback Number: (760) 569-7699 Access Code: 569480 Playback Link: https://app.freeconferencecallhd.com...7-17-65-67.m

To be fair, network marketing was proven a viable and legal business concept by attorney Gerald Nehra years ago. The preface was that it involved a product which could be bought and sold for x, and at the time, the only stipulation the goverment side took was that there was proof that at least 70% of the purchases of the 'reps' were resold. The problem is that many scams using the guise of network marketing, use it as a means to sell bic pens for a mont blanc price, or sometimes only focus on the 'recuiting' with inordinate 'entry' or what the industry calls 'front loading' the incomming rep so he can 'maximize' his commissions. Sadly, there are wolves in ALL fields, not just MLM The problem I see with THIS particular program is that they are rellying HEAVILY on a FUTURE value of a currency. In this case, a foreign, exotic, internationally-not-recognized one. This is a HUGE red flag for the securities and exchange commission to come in and shut down when it gets big enough for seizure or outright Cease and Desist from the local AG's. I saw this with US minted gold coins back in the 80s. Same concept, different product, but in the same field. Too dangerous to be involved long term. The problem will be that the owners will just walk away with their millions (if they havent sent it offshore beforehand) but leave a lot of sheeple with nothing in their wake. So, the problem in MY opinion, isnt MLM per se, its the product for starters... (money for almost money - very dangerous grounds)

is there a text version of this call?

Great article. For months people have been asking WHERE there was a link proving US gov has a crapload of Dinars they are sitting on, and a good reason for their push for this...

Activists encourage jurors to take a stand It seems to be an altruistic endeavor: Rally the populace to make informed and conscientious decisions when serving as a juror. But James Cox, campaign manager for the Fully Informed Jury Association, said he was threatened with arrest outside the Broward County Courthouse; received a citation from Homeland Security while handing out literature in front of the Miami federal courthouse complex; and is regularly questioned about his activities at the federal courthouse in Fort Lauderdale. His incendiary message seems to have hit a nerve. "You have a right to sit on the jury to not only judge the facts of the case but the law itself," he said. "If you think it's a bad law, if you think it's unjust if this person is in court, you have a right to vote for a not guilty verdict." The Helena, Montana-based group encourages citizens to take a stand in the jury room and not bow to peer pressure to convict if they feel otherwise. Jury nullification, a jury that acquits when it believes a law is immoral or wrongly applied, is a badge of honor for FIJA. Criminal defense attorney David O. Markus of Markus & Markus in Miami, said the association, for all its bluster, is right. "The whole point of jury service is using your common sense and your conscience," he said. "We don't want robots as jurors; we want people." Joseph DeMaria, a former federal prosecutor at Tew Cardenas in Miami, is not sympathetic. He said the group is attempting to undermine trials by encouraging jurors to ignore the rule of law, the framework of the justice system, and possibly should be banned from any interaction with jurors and prospective jurors. "Every lawyer knows that if they tried to argue with the jury to ignore the law and use their sympathy and engage in jury nullification, they are going to end up in a mistrial and they are going to end up reprimanded," he said. Florida is a battleground for the association because state juries have six members except in capital cases, said Ilo Jones, the association's executive director. "With six jurors, you have much less an opportunity for a representative of the cross-section of the community," she said. "It's crucial in Florida that we educate twice as many people." Jones said the group has about 20,000 supporters nationwide from a wide political spectrum but with a shared distrust of government. Jones and Cox said they both fear the justice system is becoming a mill for the world's largest prison system and the industry it creates. "It's all about the money," Cox said. Primary Objective The group's primary objection is to a standard jury instruction. In the three states covered by the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals Florida, Georgia and Alabama, trial judges read the following to a jury before deliberations: "You must make your decision only on the basis of the testimony and other evidence presented here during the trial; and you must not be influenced in any way by either sympathy or prejudice for or against the defendant or the government. You must also follow the law as I explain it to you whether you agree with that law or not; and you must follow all of my instructions as a whole. You may not single out or disregard any of the court's instructions on the law." Jones said this flies in the face of true justice. "They are being explicitly instructed that they are not allowed to vote their conscience," she said. Jones said the most egregious lack of balance is in death penalty cases. Jury candidates are automatically excused if they express political, religious, moral or any other misgivings about recommending a death sentence. Some studies have shown the vetting produces a panel more likely to convict and not representative of the community at large. Cox said plea bargains also undermine the jury system as prosecutors offer significantly reduced sentences if defendants plead guilty. "It's like you just entered a casino," Cox said. Jeffrey Sloman, a former U.S. attorney now with the Ferraro Law Firm in Coral Gables, disagrees that juries have become rubber stamps for prosecutors and challenges the concept behind the pamphlets. He said allowing jurors to impose their own agenda would "throw a couple hundred years of jurisprudence out the window." Jones said the group gets attention from judges and security guards when they target a courthouse. One Florida judge even held up a pamphlet and told jurors the group was "crazy" and to ignore the information, Jones said. The association denies its aim is jury tampering, though Jones said one member got in trouble in California for handing out case-specific information. Another member in Colorado was accused of tampering for espousing the group's position while on a jury. Cox, who can distribute up to 600 pamphlets a day, said he targets no particular individual or groups outside courthouses. The group publishes different pamphlets. Some are more straight-forward that others. One flier, "Who owns your body?" urges in strong language that jurors not surrender themselves to the prosecution. "Government judges and prosecutors crave raw power beyond legal limit to their authority," the pamphlet states. "The power can only exist if the person brought before the court is deceived by process into surrendering ownership of his or her body and responsibility for individual decisions." Resonates With Women Cox said the flier resonates with women. Jones said the high-minded wording gets to the core of a problem in American jurisprudence: The jury is not there to convict but to protect. Cox said he has been surprised at how much resistance he's encountered at courthouses. A videotape on the group's Florida chapter website shows security at the Broward County Courthouse threatening Cox with arrest. "Don't be shoving these in their face. I'll be watching," a security officer tells Cox. After being ushered away from the Fort Lauderdale federal courthouse for weeks, he said federal marshals deputies finally conceded he was within his First Amendment rights to hand out the literature. Still, on Nov. 2, in front of the Miami federal courthouse complex, Cox was given a federal citation for failure to comply with police instructions and told he had "no expectation of rights." The U.S. Marshals Service, which coordinates security at federal courthouses, did not respond to a call for comment by deadline. The office of Chief U.S. District Judge Federico Moreno said he was out of town Friday and not available for comment. 'Amazing' Resistance Cox said it's amazing there is so much resistance to pamphleteering, given its historical significance. "Jurors are not sitting in the courtroom to enforce government laws and dispense punishment and dispense fines for government regulation," Jones said. "The primary reason we have juries is to protect private individuals from government tyranny." But DeMaria, the former prosecutor, said the group is courting tyranny. "The views are totally wrong, and they are totally undemocratic," he said. "What they are doing is really destructive to the rule of the law." The above article published by John Pacenti, Daily Business Review Best wishes for your continued success. Sterling Fisher Offshore-Manual.com

I believe De Larue was the same firm who PRINTED the new dinars as well, so their anti counterfit machines are probable the best. Im pretty sure they couldnt afford ONE counterfit 25,000 dinar note to slip thru. I have talked to some hi end yuk yuks at banks and it looks like MANY will be sending out the dinars if/when RV, since they arent locally neither trained nor is it their department to handle the dinar. For example, Capital One's foreign currency headquarters in in New Orleans, and even if they credit your account immediately or when it is actually confirmed (based on their OWN internal policy) most will send out currency to another location for verification for the various reasons posted. A bank getting their own de larue machine at this point IS interesting, since its mostly geared to the Dinar. They wouldnt be getting it NOW to deal with other foreign currencies... im my opinion

U.S DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY HAS TOLD BANKS - IN WRITING - IT MAY INSPECT SAFE DEPOSIT BOXES WITHOUT WARRANT AND SIEZE ANY GOLD, SILVER, GUNS OR OTHER VALUABLES IT FINDS INSIDE THOSE BOXES! According to in-house memos now circulating, the DHS has issued orders to banks across America which announce to them that "under the Patriot Act" the DHS has the absolute right to seize, without any warrant whatsoever, any and all customer bank accounts, to make "periodic and unannounced" visits to any bank to open and inspect the contents of "selected safe deposit boxes." Further, the DHS "shall, at the discretion of the agent supervising the search, remove, photograph or seize as evidence" any of the following items "bar gold, gold coins, firearms of any kind unless manufactured prior to 1878, documents such as passports or foreign bank account records, pornography or any material that, in the opinion of the agent, shall be deemed of to be of a contraband nature." DHS memos also state that banks are informed that any bank employee, on any level, that releases "improper" "classified DHS Security information" to any member of the public, to include the customers whose boxes have been clandestinely opened and inspected and "any other party, to include members of the media" and further "that the posting of any such information on the internet will be grounds for the immediate termination of the said employee or employees and their prosecution under the Patriot Act." Safety deposit box holders and depositors are not given advanced notice when failed banks shut their doors. If people have their emergency money in a safe deposit box or an account in a bank that closes, they will not be allowed into the bank to get it out. They can knock on the door and beg to get in but the sheriff’s department or whoever is handling the closure will simply say “no” because they are just following orders. Deposit box and account holders are not warned of the hazards of banking when they sign up. It is not until they need to get their cash or valuables out in a hurry that they find themselves in trouble. Rules governing access to safe deposit boxes and money held in accounts are written into the charter of each bank. The charter is the statement of policy under which the bank is allowed by the government to do business. These rules are subject to change at any time by faceless bureaucrats who are answerable to no one. They can be changed without notice, without the agreement of the people, and against their will. People can complain but no one will care because this is small potatoes compared to the complaints that will be voiced when the executive order that governs national emergencies is enforced. That order allows the suspension of habeas corpus and all rights guaranteed under the Bill of Rights. A look at the fine print of the contract signed when a safety deposit box is opened reveals that in essence the signer has given to the bank whatever property he has put into that deposit box. When times are good people will be allowed open access to their safe deposit box and the property that is in it. This also applies to their bank accounts. But when times get really bad, many may find that the funds they have placed on deposit and the property they thought was secured in the safe deposit box now belong to the bank, not to them. Although this was probably not explained to them when they signed their signature card, this is what they were agreeing to. During the Great Depression in the early 1930’s people thought that many banks were going to fail. They were afraid they would lose their money so they went in mass to take it out, in what is known as a run on the banks. The government closed the banks to protect them from angry depositors who wanted their money back. Throughout history, governments have acted to protect the interests of banks and the wealthy people who own them, not the interests of depositors or box holders. In a time of emergency, people will have no recourse if access to their safe deposit box and bank accounts is denied. If they are keeping money in a bank that would be needed in an emergency or in a time when credit is no longer free flowing, they may not be able to get it out of the bank. The emergency may occur at night or on a weekend or holiday when the bank is closed. The solution is to take emergency cash or valuables out of the safe deposit box or bank account and secure them somewhere else, like in a home safe. An even better idea may be to close the safe deposit box account completely, letting someone else entertain the illusion of safety. Americans have learned a few things since the Great Depression. They now have the FDIC to liquidate any failed banks. The FDIC promises to set up a series of dates and times when safe deposit box renters can access their boxes by appointment to remove their property and surrender their keys. The FDIC also promises to mail bank customers an announcement of the dates for such events and include a question and answer page that addresses safe deposit box access. The people have the FDIC to give them back the money they had on deposit that they were unable to get out of any failed bank that carries FDIC insurance. Sheila Bair, head of the FDIC, promises that depositor`s money will be available in 24 hours or less. But people should remember that the FDIC is just another bureaucracy, and it`s probably best not to rely on a bureaucracy in an emergency. THE SAME HOLDS TRUE FOR STORAGE FACILITIES DON'T PUT ANYTHING VALUABLE AND/OR NON-REPLACEABLE IN ANY BANK OR STORAGE FACILITY

I have it,. but couldnt get used to the machine. Loosing 24 lbs helped considerably on the snoring. I cant imagine going thru surgeries till they get it right though

Thats my point. Comming out with a 100,000 note is going in the 'oppossite' direction of an RV - guess they feel they need an equivalent to a 100 dollar bill for a while

however, if the 100,000 dinar note is still under consideration, that is not good news... that would mean an RV is nowhere in sight if they need to produce a 100k dinar note to be able to do everyday business

Just for clarification, American Constractor said back in Nov or Dec that this woulndt happen by the end of 2010 like absolutely everyone else was.

Listen, if you post a rumor on the rumor forum without "links' you get slammed. If you do post links, you are judged guilty of causing a comotion to the bank phones you list. You really cant win on this site. You take you chances posting and hope you dont get too many arrows in your back. People are REALLY on edge here. I think so many 'this comming monday' predictions have been made that it has turned this into an ugly crowd. You made a good post. Dont regret it, there are MANY who appreciate it..

big gamble all the way by the hotel owner

In other words, and without a doubt YOU need to figure out your 'exit' strategy because there will be no Benefits, including social security for your retirement. You many want to reconsider investing your dinars/RV into any type of US securities of funds.

Im not as smart as a lot of you guys here.. but I would like to PONDER a different view. One that revolves around 'taxable event' lets say my dad gave me dinar before he died in iraq. i wait till dinar RVs and I opt to NOT cash into to dollars, but take a portion in gold, silver, euros, australian dollars, british pounds. I then only use euros to pay for things in the US that accept them. When have I created a Taxable Event by IRS definitions? I never cashed them into US dollars OR what if I took some dinars to the very same bank that sold them to me and offered them back as they are for purchasing some of their REO portofolio? then hold properties for rent for years and then selll them for the equivalent or less I paid for in dollars...? better yet, put my PRE RV dinars into Roth IRA and have the IRA buy the properties post RV directly?

It is a fact that sooner or later CBI will be gathering up the 0000s and at the least not keep letting them out of Iraq, as I believe is happening now. Slowly putting on the brakes. On another point, most of these 'brokers' are having to buy the dinars from coyotes in Jordan and such. It is also a fact that there were at least 2-3 bank robberies at Iraq where around 800 millions of dinars were stolen, most probably by subversive groups looking to fund their activities and are scalping those same dinars in Jordan. Very possible that the flow has been slowed by powers that be to make these insurgent incomes a bit harder to come by, reflected in the lack of supply here.

If you want to get that technical, youre also supposed to report ALL income/sales from even garage sales. So... who does that?

Im not sure it is good for the country in general to have a very questionable situation on the legitimacy of our present president's birth status when we are deporting thousands of immigrants daily for the same thing or less. Its a bit two-faced and a general loss of international credibility of how we adhere to the POSTED RULES, regardless of status, race or creed. This should of been cleardd up from the beginning, now it will just fester into an international credibility 'cancer' and more fire for the conspiracy theorists which will see no end... Complete and total P.R. error. Amazing he spent 2 million dollars on legal fees on this and it's only gotten worse.

You probably would have a hard time getting a non-dianrian to accept dinars. He would have to pay the taxes on it if he cashes them in.... Here is an idea for you. Bank owned real estate. When the dinar RVs, you could approach banks who have forereign currency departments to accept dinars in exchange for one of their distressed property listings. I that you are exchanging one for the other, and not dollars directly, you would PROBABLY (check with a tax attorney) be delaying the tax consequence up until you resell the house. The one possible advantage is that you would be postponing the tax implication from short term to long term capital gains, plus any gains in the value of the house. (meaning if you hold on to the house minimum one year before selling) you could end up with a 15% tax bite over the 32+% of a short term gain. I believe there are some real estate breaks if you re-invest in another property... I DONT know the new tax codes, so this is just a SUPOSITION.... (educated guess) IF you put in your dinars NOW into a self directed ROTH IRA, it could do all the purchasing itself and probably enjoy some tax benefits if structured properly and not have a tax consequence up front due to the nature of the ROTH IRA. (I believe you can put up an average of $5000 dollars WORTH per year, more if youre older) 5000 dollars WORTH of dinars could be a nice sum after RV... tax 'free', but you have a min 5 year stipulation that you cant pull moneys out personally without a penalty... more or less

Looks like it was Barrett who said they werent even on the planes. She said she believed in hijackings...

Its really just an example of capitalism unchecked. There are some religions who clearly state you arent responsible for the bad business decisions of your client constituency. If they are too stupid to be fleeced, that is not your problem. I wont state the religion, but it was a very prevalent one in New York who operated this way. In fact, i saw one brother put his foot on a scale discretely, while weighing fabric for sale to his own brother. It was funny in a way, but he had no guilt about it when I brought it up later... plus they are absolved of all their 'sins' once a year.... you'll laugh at me, but since then, I always like to know the religious 'base' of the person Im dealing with... for obvious reasons

I am not here to judge what happened (as if you know all the stories) but please name me ONE war or revolution where innocents/bystanders werent involved? I think this rogue move by some banks to make insane profits off the needy or greedy, is just a warning to ALL OF US, of the sharks that will be comming our way when we try to cash out. Obviously, even banks arent above suspicion. You'd better really study your options before you walk into an institution you think is above reproach.

I thought 1 & 2 were fairly clear. He says it wasnt computer or website glitch but a cheap reach for making insane profits on a third-world-like pre RV move on some banksters part before they were stopped dead in their tracks. Like banks wont make enough from the spread, they need to make exponential profits off us sheeples. As far as you knowing some Iraquis who dont happen to like what happened in Iraq, I have met NONE who said they are worse off now than when Hussein was in power. Course Ive only met about 13. Also have spoken to people in the international currency world, and publicly stated for many technical reasons and to prevent speculating in one country and running to another, that the RV would be worldwide in an instant. As far as what the super rich can do, is use HFT to assure buys in the Forex at a profit within nanoseconds, like they have been doing with stocks for years.