gymrat76541 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) I understand that our President Obama has NOT been an effective leader. I do not think this will be debated. HOWEVER, I believe that he has attempted to do positive things for the USA. His BIG MISTAKE was in ******* off big business. Forcing a HEALTH CARE BILL which has and will cost billions of dollars to be spent really upset corporate America. I see nothing worry with ensuring that children/people with a pre-existing medical conditions, and ensuring they can be treatment, which are far too expensive. As a result of this bill: Corporate America has withheld Trillions of dollars in foreign banks collecting interest until he is voted out-of-office. They have paid the entire Republican Party to vote down or bog-down any useful legislation. This resulting boycott by corporations/and their paid-for politicians has stopped American progress and fueled unemployment. This has crippled the economy, the middle class, and inflicts a death blow to the poor. Of course, this has not effect of folks with money. Money has, and always will – make more money. If Americans ever got a clue - they would vote each and every congressman out of office. This would send a message that the American people still hold the power. They would, of course, be replaced by different dirty politicians but the new ones MIGHT attempt to balance out the interest of the country with the interest of their pocket. We the people have always held power but the average American does nothing, says nothing, until the situation is an emergency. Thus, the politicians cater to whoever pays them - Special Interest Groups. Obama is the president - the buck stops here. So blame him for EVERYTHING. That is the American way - point the finger and blame the guy in charge. I understand the system and I do believe that even if his intentions are good, he can not be an effective leader if he receives no support. Just do not direct all the blame without understanding that corporate greed, special interest & dirty politicians are the reason why America is slowly going down the toilet. Have a great day. Edited October 16, 2011 by Markinsa Language 10 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Name one thing he done that Good for America ........... He done nothing but divide it called the United States Of America not Divide States of America!! He soon will show his cards an this has started in North Carolina were Gov Purdue ask to put off elections disregard the voting process cause things are not going his way. Next it will be Marshall law will be in-force. So keep drinking the Kool aid soon you will wake up!! 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutie Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 I understand that our President Obama has NOT been an effective leader. I do not think this will be debated. HOWEVER, I believe that he has attempted to do positive things for the USA. His BIG MISTAKE was in pissing off big business. Forcing a HEALTH CARE BILL which has and will cost billions of dollars to be spent really upset corporate America. I see nothing worry with ensuring that children/people with a pre-existing medical conditions, and ensuring they can be treatment, which are far too expensive. As a result of this bill: Corporate America has withheld Trillions of dollars in foreign banks collecting interest until he is voted out-of-office. They have paid the entire Republican Party to vote down or bog-down any useful legislation. This resulting boycott by corporations/and their paid-for politicians has stopped American progress and fueled unemployment. This has crippled the economy, the middle class, and inflicts a death blow to the poor. Of course, this has not effect of folks with money. Money has, and always will – make more money. If Americans ever got a clue - they would vote each and every congressman out of office. This would send a message that the American people still hold the power. They would, of course, be replaced by different dirty politicians but the new ones MIGHT attempt to balance out the interest of the country with the interest of their pocket. We the people have always held power but the average American does nothing, says nothing, until the situation is an emergency. Thus, the politicians cater to whoever pays them - Special Interest Groups. Obama is the president - the buck stops here. So blame him for EVERYTHING. That is the American way - point the finger and blame the guy in charge. I understand the system and I do believe that even if his intentions are good, he can not be an effective leader if he receives no support. Just do not direct all the blame without understanding that corporate greed, special interest & dirty politicians are the reason why America is slowly going down the toilet. Have a great day. The problem is we the people can't support Obama when he is clearly trying to make us a socialized nation. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim5400 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 The quote ..unquote health care bill is just a front for MANY OTHER democrat wish list bills that got bundled into this ""BILL"""'.....do some research....this bill will sink America business and YOU may lose YOUR job over it......then who you gonna blame..Isay blame yourself for voting for the socialists who made and passed this disaster of a Bill....give me a minus-....that wont change the course OBAMA has us on ..its his QUEST to knock out America with his CO conspirator GOERGE SOROS..... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooter39 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Well he is to blame ....this great country is run by crooked lawyers from Chicago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
army03 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 American people still hold the power and are getting smarter everyday. I will make sure NO doesn't have a voice in 2012. 63% of Americans wants President Obama Job Bill passed. So bash all you want, but I HAVE THE POWER IN 2012. 3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeliving Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) You have not mentioned the billions of dollars that have been paid in government bailouts which funded the unions that funded the left....YES, I will agree, he's not a president that I can support! Edited October 16, 2011 by lakeliving 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymrat76541 Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 I really see no down side to Universial Health Care. Look at Germany. Everyone pays a % of their paycheck. You make more, you pay more. A flat % of your pay goes to Health Care. You need a doctor/dentist. Go see them. No cost out-of pocket. You need to check-in at the hospital, scehudle the date. America has inflated the Health Care System. Americans pay for the reseach/development/legal fees and other countries do not. As is, some Americans can not afford to get the treatment/medications that are needed. This is ok with people with expensive health care plans, or people with $$$$. This will NEVER change as long as we have special interest buying politicans & votes. Doctors/Hospitals/phar. companies are making record profits every year. Ever wonder why we pay so much? Because the system is OUT-OF-CONTROL. GREED - The American way, the American Dream. 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim5400 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 American people still hold the power and are getting smarter everyday. I will make sure NO doesn't have a voice in 2012. 63% of Americans wants President Obama Job Bill passed. So bash all you want, but I HAVE THE POWER IN 2012. i think you mean 63% DONT want this jobs bill passed ..because it has nothing to do with jobs...it about funding his supporters....THAT IS WHAT ITS ABOUT......your tax money WORKING AGAINST YOU....like usual 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojack Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Name one thing he done that Good for America ........... He done nothing but divide it called the United States Of America not Divide States of America!! He soon will show his cards an this has started in North Carolina were Gov Purdue ask to put off elections disregard the voting process cause things are not going his way. Next it will be Marshall law will be in-force. So keep drinking the Kool aid soon you will wake up!! Are you sure about these things? If you want to see accomplishments, search president accomplishments and take your time reading. If you want to read about division - no, hear about division - it's easy, listen to rush, hannity, mcconnell and the like. Division you talk about is the difference in the Feds and local government. Yes - they are different. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim5400 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 I really see no down side to Universial Health Care. Look at Germany. Everyone pays a % of their paycheck. You make more, you pay more. A flat % of your pay goes to Health Care. You need a doctor/dentist. Go see them. No cost out-of pocket. You need to check-in at the hospital, scehudle the date. America has inflated the Health Care System. Americans pay for the reseach/development/legal fees and other countries do not. As is, some Americans can not afford to get the treatment/medications that are needed. This is ok with people with expensive health care plans, or people with $$$$. This will NEVER change as long as we have special interest buying politicans & votes. Doctors/Hospitals/phar. companies are making record profits every year. Ever wonder why we pay so much? Because the system is OUT-OF-CONTROL. GREED - The American way, the American Dream. tell that to Doctors that have spent THOUSANDS ON AN EDUCATION THAT THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO RECOUP BECAUSE THE gov> THEN WILL BE ABLE TO dictate HOW MUCH THE mdS CAN CHARGE FOR THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE...this will be a big mess... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojack Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 i think you mean 63% DONT want this jobs bill passed ..because it has nothing to do with jobs...it about funding his supporters....THAT IS WHAT ITS ABOUT......your tax money WORKING AGAINST YOU....like usual Tim - how do you convince me of that? tell that to Doctors that have spent THOUSANDS ON AN EDUCATION THAT THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO RECOUP BECAUSE THE gov> THEN WILL BE ABLE TO dictate HOW MUCH THE mdS CAN CHARGE FOR THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE...this will be a big mess... Nothing but adverse talk... these things are twisted to keep people against any progress in the country. 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parmenio Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) This stealth COMMUNIST/MARXISTS bamboozled several million into voting him into office. As a candidate for president he lied about his agenda..., a tactic used by marxists to get into power. Everything he has done since has been to weaken this country. I am ashamed that there are folks out there who still support him. SAD!!!! Edited October 16, 2011 by parmenio 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim5400 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Tim - how do you convince me of that? HAS ANY MONEY WE SPENT ON ANY STIMULUS PACKAGE CREAT JOBS??? LOOK AT THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATES.....sory about the caps........the gov. cant track the money we dont here about where it goes...its amazing how we fund this stuff and nothing changes....BUSINESSES...are the ONLy ones that create jobs through SUPPLY and DEMAND.....OBAMAS policies kill demand through GOV regulation and other policies that swart business.....JMO...no link 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojack Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 HAS ANY MONEY WE SPENT ON ANY STIMULUS PACKAGE CREAT JOBS??? LOOK AT THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATES.....sory about the caps........the gov. cant track the money we dont here about where it goes...its amazing how we fund this stuff and nothing changes....BUSINESSES...are the ONLy ones that create jobs through SUPPLY and DEMAND.....OBAMAS policies kill demand through GOV regulation and other policies that swart business.....JMO...no link Not easy to fix the mess we came from... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim5400 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Tim - how do you convince me of that? Nothing but adverse talk... these things are twisted to keep people against any progress in the country. then we agree to disagree....hope you have good luck with bamas policies ...we have room for you as a repblican when you realize you are wrong 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojack Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) then we agree to disagree....hope you have good luck with bamas policies ...we have room for you as a repblican when you realize you are wrong Not about Rep or Dem. It's about the crap you guys follow or even make up yourselves. Do you remember just a few years ago? Just what is in store for whomever wins the Presidential Election? Who ever wins the Election when the dust settles tomorrownight will be the single heir to an inheritance of one huge mess. They will face challenges on a monolithic scale. They will be faced with restoring growth to a faltering economy the likes of which our country has not seen since the dark days before World War II. They will inherit a military fighting wars on two battle fields. One in Iraq and the other in Afghanistan. They will be faced with a budget deficit running close to $500 billion and growing daily. They will be forced by the American people to bring our country back to the figure head status we once held and to move forward as the world’s lone true superpower. Determining a successor to the highly unpopular President George W. Bush was a high priority with many of the citizens of the United States. Millions of Americans have already voted in the early voting rounds. Election officials are looking forward to Tuesdays long lines at polling stations. The nation is expecting a record turnout which should easily eclipse the 2004 vote total of more than 121 million. Edited October 16, 2011 by mojack 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim5400 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Not easy to fix the mess we came from... Are you blaming the Bush Admin here... nice try.....Obama outspent Bush 4 to 1....if you havent noticed 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojack Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Are you blaming the Bush Admin here... nice try.....Obama outspent Bush 4 to 1....if you havent noticed Hoping you would ask that! http://rambleandblather.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/just-what-is-in-store-for-whomever-wins-the-election/ Who ever wins the Election when the dust settles tomorrownight will be the single heir to an inheritance of one huge mess. They will face challenges on a monolithic scale. They will be faced with restoring growth to a faltering economy the likes of which our country has not seen since the dark days before World War II. They will inherit a military fighting wars on two battle fields. One in Iraq and the other in Afghanistan. They will be faced with a budget deficit running close to $500 billion and growing daily. They will be forced by the American people to bring our country back to the figure head status we once held and to move forward as the world’s lone true superpower. Determining a successor to the highly unpopular President George W. Bush was a high priority with many of the citizens of the United States. Millions of Americans have already voted in the early voting rounds. Election officials are looking forward to Tuesdays long lines at polling stations. The nation is expecting a record turnout which should easily eclipse the 2004 vote total of more than 121 million. Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=post§ion=post&do=reply_post&f=7&t=87823&qpid=706685#ixzz1axDd5PJq Are you blaming the Bush Admin here... nice try.....Obama outspent Bush 4 to 1....if you havent noticed Who would you blame? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrref Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 WHERE IN THE HECK HAVE YOU BEEN FOR THE PAST 3 YEARS????? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinarMillionaire Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Obama should remember...every time he points his finger at Bush, three fingers are pointing back at himself. He blames Bush for all his failings. And now he's making excuses that we had all these other disasters (Japan, hurricanes, eathquakes, oh my) to add to his reasons for having a hard time getting the economy going. He and the Liberal-Socialist own this economy. Obama has everyone look at his right hand, all the while doing unmentionable things to us with his left hand. "Fast and Furious" Solyndra" to name just a couple. Obamanation-care is a Trojan horse of the Liberal-Socialist decades long wish list, to be unleashed on us over time. It not only ticked off the Corporations, but all Americans that know what it will do to our economy and OUR AMERICA. Republicans, Democrats and Independents alike. LINK PLEASE! ......I need a link that shows where the Republicans have been paid by Corporations. That's a HOOT! The Republicans were ushered into office in the last, historical landslide, election in 2010 to put the brakes on his Socialist agenda. If nothing gets done, then they are doing their job. Obama can't even get his "jobs bill" passed by the Democrat controlled Senate. So people need to stop blaming Republicans for everything. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim5400 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Not about Rep or Dem. It's about the crap you guys follow or even make up yourselves. Do you remember just a few years ago? Just what is in store for whomever wins the Presidential Election? Who ever wins the Election when the dust settles tomorrownight will be the single heir to an inheritance of one huge mess. They will face challenges on a monolithic scale. They will be faced with restoring growth to a faltering economy the likes of which our country has not seen since the dark days before World War II. They will inherit a military fighting wars on two battle fields. One in Iraq and the other in Afghanistan. They will be faced with a budget deficit running close to $500 billion and growing daily. They will be forced by the American people to bring our country back to the figure head status we once held and to move forward as the world’s lone true superpower. Determining a successor to the highly unpopular President George W. Bush was a high priority with many of the citizens of the United States. Millions of Americans have already voted in the early voting rounds. Election officials are looking forward to Tuesdays long lines at polling stations. The nation is expecting a record turnout which should easily eclipse the 2004 vote total of more than 121 million. obama had a super majority for 2 years and didnt pull the troops from either war....not my fault.....he continued to spend astrinomical amounts of money....not my fault.....you cannot convince me your position has merit Obama should remember...every time he points his finger at Bush, three fingers are pointing back at himself. He blames Bush for all his failings. And now he's making excuses that we had all these other disasters (Japan, hurricanes, eathquakes, oh my) to add to his reasons for having a hard time getting the economy going. He and the Liberal-Socialist own this economy. Obama has everyone look at his right hand, all the while doing unmentionable things to us with his left hand. "Fast and Furious" Solyndra" to name just a couple. Obamanation-care is a Trojan horse of the Liberal-Socialist decades long wish list, to be unleashed on us over time. It not only ticked off the Corporations, but all Americans that know what it will do to our economy and OUR AMERICA. Republicans, Democrats and Independents alike. LINK PLEASE! ......I need a link that shows where the Republicans have been paid by Corporations. That's a HOOT! The Republicans were ushered into office in the last, historical landslide, election in 2010 to put the brakes on his Socialist agenda. If nothing gets done, then they are doing their job. Obama can't even get his "jobs bill" passed by the Democrat controlled Senate. So people need to stop blaming Republicans for everything. thanks for the support here.....i agree with you......go rep. 2012....or should I say CONSERVATIVE VALUES 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
army03 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 i think you mean 63% DONT want this jobs bill passed ..because it has nothing to do with jobs...it about funding his supporters....THAT IS WHAT ITS ABOUT......your tax money WORKING AGAINST YOU....like usual 63% WANTS it. Just check the major polls out there....Heres a different satiuation for you, why has this quarter alone President O raised over ~43 millions dollars and that was from the likes of around ~800,000 people sending him money. Let's not talk about last quarter which was over 87 million dollars and that not from big business. We the people has the POWER. Everything is debatable, but the numbers don't lie. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojack Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Obama should remember...every time he points his finger at Bush, three fingers are pointing back at himself. He blames Bush for all his failings. And now he's making excuses that we had all these other disasters (Japan, hurricanes, eathquakes, oh my) to add to his reasons for having a hard time getting the economy going. He and the Liberal-Socialist own this economy. Obama has everyone look at his right hand, all the while doing unmentionable things to us with his left hand. "Fast and Furious" Solyndra" to name just a couple. Obamanation-care is a Trojan horse of the Liberal-Socialist decades long wish list, to be unleashed on us over time. It not only ticked off the Corporations, but all Americans that know what it will do to our economy and OUR AMERICA. Republicans, Democrats and Independents alike. LINK PLEASE! ......I need a link that shows where the Republicans have been paid by Corporations. That's a HOOT! The Republicans were ushered into office in the last, historical landslide, election in 2010 to put the brakes on his Socialist agenda. If nothing gets done, then they are doing their job. Obama can't even get his "jobs bill" passed by the Democrat controlled Senate. So people need to stop blaming Republicans for everything. Okay - not worth a reply. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim5400 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Hoping you would ask that! http://rambleandblather.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/just-what-is-in-store-for-whomever-wins-the-election/ Who ever wins the Election when the dust settles tomorrownight will be the single heir to an inheritance of one huge mess. They will face challenges on a monolithic scale. They will be faced with restoring growth to a faltering economy the likes of which our country has not seen since the dark days before World War II. They will inherit a military fighting wars on two battle fields. One in Iraq and the other in Afghanistan. They will be faced with a budget deficit running close to $500 billion and growing daily. They will be forced by the American people to bring our country back to the figure head status we once held and to move forward as the world’s lone true superpower. Determining a successor to the highly unpopular President George W. Bush was a high priority with many of the citizens of the United States. Millions of Americans have already voted in the early voting rounds. Election officials are looking forward to Tuesdays long lines at polling stations. The nation is expecting a record turnout which should easily eclipse the 2004 vote total of more than 121 million. Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=post§ion=post&do=reply_post&f=7&t=87823&qpid=706685#ixzz1axDd5PJq Who would you blame? the highly unpopular goerge Bush...HAVE u seen OBAMAS poll ratings lately 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts