ronscarpa Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 Mailman17 chat: DS - 8/27/10 August 28, 2010 · Posted in DDT - CHATS/POSTS mailman17 says to (18:13:06): NUTTING MUCH… JUST GONNA PASS AN UPDATE TO YOU GUYS THERES LOTS OF THEORIES OUT THERE BUT I DID GET A CHANCE TO HAVE A LENGTHY CONVERSATION WITH MED TODAY SO LETS SEE WHERE WE SIT THE RV IS DONE..SIGNED SEALED AND READY TO DELIVER THATS A FACT BUT THEY WILL NOT RELEASE IT UNTIL THE GOVT IS FORMED NOW LAST NIGHT I BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT THEY COULD RV WITHOUT A GOVT THE QUESTION IS WOULD THEY? THE ANSWER IS AN EMPHATICAL NO THE IMF WILL NOT SIGN OFF TILL THE PM IS SEATED JUST THOUGHT I WOULD LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT THANKS NOW..THAT DOESNT MEAN WE ARE STILL SO CLOSE AS WE COULD SPIT ON IT WE ARE WE JUST HAVE TO LET THE POWERS THAT BE, IN THIS CASE ALLAWI AND THE REST OF THE STOOGES TO AGREE NOW THAT DOESNT CHANGE THE FACT THAT IRAQ IS STILL UNDER A ULTIMATUM FROM THE UN ITS JUST THAT WE DONT KNOW WHAT THAT IS REST ASSURED, IT AINT LONG HOPING IRAQ CAN GET THIS DONE ON THEIR OWN AS TO NOT CAUSE FURTHER EMBARISMENT AND TURMOIL TO ITS OWN PEOPLE HANG IN THERE chloe says to (18:19:19): what ya think mm about mahdi? could be compromise candidate. allawi likes him too LATER MAYBE CHLOE? chloe says to (18:20:28): acceptabe to them and allawi said in the past acceptable to him also…food for thought BUT WOULD MALIKI GO FOR IT AND THE KURDS chloe says to (18:21:55): might not have a choice! kurds? hakim is talking to them THE THING IS ALAWI HAS 159 IN HIS POCKET IS HE GONNA GIVE UP NOW? WHO KNOWS THAT WOULD JUST GIVE MAHDI 159…AND WE ARE EXACTLY AT THE SAME PLACE AS WITH ALLAWI chloe says to (18:23:02): i don’t see allawi giving up….gut here ME NEITHER AND I THINK THE UN WANTS HIM TOO chloe says to (18:23:25): mahdi is a choice compromise if needed YES HE IS chloe says to (18:23:49): and the best we’ll get from the nc BUT DOES HE HAVE THE SAME MENTALITY TOWARDS RVING AS ALLAWI? chloe says to (18:24:10): well mm he is sitting parliament demanding they get down to business I TRULY TINK THIS WILL ULTIMATELY BE FORCED ON THEM FROM THE UN chloe says to (18:24:20): that says something YES…AND I ALSO SEE TALABANI GAINING MOMENTUM chloe says to (18:24:51): and allawi likes him friends DRINKING BUDDIES. johnevans says to (18:25:14): thought is was up to the imf for the rv JOHN THE IMF APPROVES THE RV FOR RELEASE chloe says to (18:25:47): and can force it too YES THEY CAN johnevans says to (18:26:35): ok thanks OK…GONNA GO READ A BIT…LOTS THERE I HAVENT SEEN YET…BE BACK LATER 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legolas Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 From all available indications, they are no closer to forming a government than they were 6 months ago. At this point, no bloc or coalition has anywhere near the 80% majority required to get a candidate elected to the position of P.M., whether it be Maliki, Allawi, Mahdi, or anyone else. Even worse, they haven't even elected a "Speaker" yet, let alone the Presidencies......all of which come BEFORE the position of P.M. It's a long process, subject to timelines and appeals. Even if Allawi or Malik were told today (which can't happen before the Speaker and Presidencies are selected) the odds against either being able to achieve the required majority are overwhelming. To believe that the Iraqi government has been "secretly" formed and seated is total nonsense, and the sites that have for more than a month now been putting that info out there should be reviled and ignored, yet they appear to have thousands hanging on their every word, desperate for the RV. If ANY of the required steps in the process had actually been achieved, it would be front page news, not a secret. Take a chill pill gang......wishful thinking won't make this happen. If formation of a government is in fact a prerequisite for RV as we've been repeatedly told, it is unfortunately likely to be a while. Not what we want to hear, but reality nevertheless. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirk77 Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 From all available indications, they are no closer to forming a government than they were 6 months ago. At this point, no bloc or coalition has anywhere near the 80% majority required to get a candidate elected to the position of P.M., whether it be Maliki, Allawi, Mahdi, or anyone else. Even worse, they haven't even elected a "Speaker" yet, let alone the Presidencies......all of which come BEFORE the position of P.M. It's a long process, subject to timelines and appeals. Even if Allawi or Malik were told today (which can't happen before the Speaker and Presidencies are selected) the odds against either being able to achieve the required majority are overwhelming. To believe that the Iraqi government has been "secretly" formed and seated is total nonsense, and the sites that have for more than a month now been putting that info out there should be reviled and ignored, yet they appear to have thousands hanging on their every word, desperate for the RV. If ANY of the required steps in the process had actually been achieved, it would be front page news, not a secret. Take a chill pill gang......wishful thinking won't make this happen. If formation of a government is in fact a prerequisite for RV as we've been repeatedly told, it is unfortunately likely to be a while. Not what we want to hear, but reality nevertheless. So we wait... Selkirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBJNYC Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 (edited) .....wishful thinking won't make this happen. DISAGREE -- Wishful thinking CAN make this happen.....AND AS A GROUP -- WOW !!! OR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vlVDdOToIw&feature=related Edited August 28, 2010 by EBJNYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machcobra Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 WRONG. They can RV without the Gov. "totally in place". Sorry med but take your meds and think more clearly! Notice key word totally? mailman17 says to (18:13:06): NUTTING MUCH… JUST GONNA PASS AN UPDATE TO YOU GUYS THERES LOTS OF THEORIES OUT THERE BUT I DID GET A CHANCE TO HAVE A LENGTHY CONVERSATION WITH MED TODAY SO LETS SEE WHERE WE SIT THE RV IS DONE..SIGNED SEALED AND READY TO DELIVER THATS A FACT BUT THEY WILL NOT RELEASE IT UNTIL THE GOVT IS FORMED NOW LAST NIGHT I BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT THEY COULD RV WITHOUT A GOVT THE QUESTION IS WOULD THEY? THE ANSWER IS AN EMPHATICAL NO THE IMF WILL NOT SIGN OFF TILL THE PM IS SEATED JUST THOUGHT I WOULD LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT THANKS NOW..THAT DOESNT MEAN WE ARE STILL SO CLOSE AS WE COULD SPIT ON IT WE ARE WE JUST HAVE TO LET THE POWERS THAT BE, IN THIS CASE ALLAWI AND THE REST OF THE STOOGES TO AGREE NOW THAT DOESNT CHANGE THE FACT THAT IRAQ IS STILL UNDER A ULTIMATUM FROM THE UN ITS JUST THAT WE DONT KNOW WHAT THAT IS REST ASSURED, IT AINT LONG HOPING IRAQ CAN GET THIS DONE ON THEIR OWN AS TO NOT CAUSE FURTHER EMBARISMENT AND TURMOIL TO ITS OWN PEOPLE HANG IN THERE chloe says to (18:19:19): what ya think mm about mahdi? could be compromise candidate. allawi likes him too LATER MAYBE CHLOE? chloe says to (18:20:28): acceptabe to them and allawi said in the past acceptable to him also…food for thought BUT WOULD MALIKI GO FOR IT AND THE KURDS chloe says to (18:21:55): might not have a choice! kurds? hakim is talking to them THE THING IS ALAWI HAS 159 IN HIS POCKET IS HE GONNA GIVE UP NOW? WHO KNOWS THAT WOULD JUST GIVE MAHDI 159…AND WE ARE EXACTLY AT THE SAME PLACE AS WITH ALLAWI chloe says to (18:23:02): i don’t see allawi giving up….gut here ME NEITHER AND I THINK THE UN WANTS HIM TOO chloe says to (18:23:25): mahdi is a choice compromise if needed YES HE IS chloe says to (18:23:49): and the best we’ll get from the nc BUT DOES HE HAVE THE SAME MENTALITY TOWARDS RVING AS ALLAWI? chloe says to (18:24:10): well mm he is sitting parliament demanding they get down to business I TRULY TINK THIS WILL ULTIMATELY BE FORCED ON THEM FROM THE UN chloe says to (18:24:20): that says something YES…AND I ALSO SEE TALABANI GAINING MOMENTUM chloe says to (18:24:51): and allawi likes him friends DRINKING BUDDIES. johnevans says to (18:25:14): thought is was up to the imf for the rv JOHN THE IMF APPROVES THE RV FOR RELEASE chloe says to (18:25:47): and can force it too YES THEY CAN johnevans says to (18:26:35): ok thanks OK…GONNA GO READ A BIT…LOTS THERE I HAVENT SEEN YET…BE BACK LATER[/size][/b] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legolas Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 DISAGREE -- Wishful thinking CAN make this happen.....AND AS A GROUP -- WOW !!! OR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vlVDdOToIw&feature=related Many similar devices and theories have been put forward, but science has yet to prove the utility or efficacy of any of them. Perhaps someday......meanwhile keep those chakras in line, and frequencies in tune......maybe we'll vibrate our RV into reality. Sure can't hurt to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBJNYC Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 (edited) Many similar devices and theories have been put forward, but science has yet to prove the utility or efficacy of any of them. Perhaps someday......meanwhile keep those chakras in line, and frequencies in tune......maybe we'll vibrate our RV into reality. Sure can't hurt to try. Science is slow -- JUST CATCHIN UP -- Kabbalah, Sumerians, Mayans -- has been around a LONG TIME -- way BEFORE "our" science. Edited August 28, 2010 by EBJNYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jac Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 DISAGREE -- Wishful thinking CAN make this happen.....AND AS A GROUP -- WOW !!! OR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vlVDdOToIw&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDGKbvnonl4&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adontik Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 DISAGREE -- Wishful thinking CAN make this happen.....AND AS A GROUP -- WOW !!! OR http://www.youtube.c...feature=related Another great post EBJNYC. It's certainly been shown now through quantum physics that our thoughts are part of the creation of the world in which we live, therefore we are all "co-creators' of our reality. We've met Mike Dooley and attended one of his seminars, he's a pretty cool guy. And "What The Bleep" is one of our favorites. I think it would be great to be part of Tillman's project! Thanks again for sharing! Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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