serpico007 Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 With the latest articles coming out from the CBI, I decided to run some more numbers to see if there was any legitimacy to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Eagle Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 I have one suggestion to make.Originally there were 9 billion dollars of dinars printed at the rate of 2,000-1,or 18 Trillion dinars. Since that time the dinar has ncreased in value by about 40%,making the total roughly 25 trillion. Now,we know there were 14 denoms printed but only 9 of them put into the market.Now,we also know the remaining are the lowere denoms-20/25,10,5,1,and probably 1/2.Now,here's my thoughts;What if the lower denoms are as much in value as the larger denoms-in other words,only 12 1/2 trillion are outstanding. The lower denoms would still be counted in the M2. Now,if this is the case the CBI would merely be swapping the lower for the higher denoms,and at the same time reducing the amount in circulation by 1/2,or 12 1/2 trillion.Then,if they lopped,they could back their currency 100% up to 5 or$6. Just a thought!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FL.KEYS Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 got lotsa $$$$ man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyce Bygall Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Wow serpico007 - you sure bowled me over with all those figures! But then again I'm lousy at math. Thanks for all the work & the post. Praying you are absolutely correct! Don' let wareagle rain on your parade, we all think differently. May he & we & all the rest be blessed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas32 Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 A deductive argument is sound if and only if it is both valid, and all of its premises are actually true. Otherwise, a deductive argument is unsound. According to the definition of a deductive argument, the author of a deductive argument always intends that the premises provide the sort of justification for the conclusion whereby if the premises are true, the conclusion is guaranteed to be true as well. Loosely speaking, if the author's process of reasoning is a good one, if the premises actually do provide this sort of justification for the conclusion, then the argument is valid.There are two ways to value a currency paragraphs 1 and 2 explain what is used in practice and the last sections shows modeling in currency valuation to compare what is used in practice. If we follow the rule of a deductive argument the above article fails in all respects. The correct formulas have to be applied 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jocko129 Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Serpico that was a great post you couldnt write it any easier than that, thanks again for youe effort !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdavis1364 Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 I, for one, am overwhelmed with the brilliance of the posters. I sure that they must have had some training in the field of economics to be able to deduce all of this information. I could never do this because I find this boring as h*ll. Probably because I'm too dumb to understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
possum Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Possum smells a huge RV! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoomzoom Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Chas32 how does your exposition relate to the dinar and also to the thread? You state that serpico007 failed in his analysis, how so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one4dinar Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Awesome work, Serpico007. You Made it very simple to understand. Based on your evaulation, I also believe this is CBI's plan for a RV. Your post is the first one to make sense.Thank you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuton19 Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 I will admit...I have absolutely no clue what was said here....I got a rate of $3.24 and .001 and I am halfway smart most of the time! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas32 Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 This post was by pacster submitted serpico007 correct? Comments were for pacster.His conclusions:1.) I whole heartedly believe they are going to lop and re-denominate 1000 to 1 and this is why I believe it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpico007 Posted March 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 YES, This is a post by Pacster, it was his hard work and doings not mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas32 Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Thanks serpico007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegsue Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Serpico007 thanks for you hard work but you only applied the actual "cash on hand" as it were. Where do the vast natural resources figure in your equation?Also in your statement:The international community gets a 324% return on the amount they have invested, and in this economy that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegsue Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Sorry Serpico007 - should have been for pacster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy33567 Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Chas, maybe you should give us a few scenerios that you think might occur. It seems you have a great grasp on economics. I would be helpful for us less fortunate to have such a great grasp on this subject. Upon those scenerios maybe we could try to isolate or narrow them down each one as events unfold. Just thinking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy33567 Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 By the way congadulations on your new addition! My mistake It would vs I would! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodiackmom Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Impressive! Let's all hope you're right!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr.dinarz Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 user dr.dinarz is now ignoring serpico007lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas32 Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Clues to look for before a revalue takes placeBefore a country re-issues or rednominates a currency the public must be educated on the pending event and the government must keep illegal activity down during the exchange. This education process of both public and government is needed so all parties understand the reasoning behind a re-issue, revalue, or redenomination of the dinar. With this understanding the direction Iraq take will come from their actions of educating the Iraq public and GOI, which should be found in articles coming out of Iraq. Another good place to look for a new rate is in the Letter of Intent Arrangements by the IMF and country receiving the loan. This will give details of the loan, but also can be used to study past loans: like Turkey the Letter of Intent listed exactly, that Turkey had to Lop 6 zeros from their currency.http://www.imf.org/external/np/exr/facts/howlend.htm Some claim inflation will take hold of Iraq after the IQD enters the Forex market, this not so, if Iraq takes a IMF loan they can use the explanation below.Exchange Control Governmental restrictions on private transactions in foreign money or claims on foreign money. Residents are required to sell foreign money coming into their possession to a central bank or specialized government agency at exchange rates set by the government. The chief function of most systems of exchange control is to maintain a favorable balance of payments. .Types of controls that governments put in place to ban or restrict the amount of foreign currency or local currency that is allowed to be traded or purchased. Common exchange controls include banning the use of foreign currency and restricting the amount of domestic currency that can be exchanged within the country.Typically, countries that employ exchange controls are those with weaker economies. These controls allow countries a greater degree of economic stability by limiting the amount of exchange rate volatility due to currency inflows/outflows.The International Monetary Fund has a provision called article 14, which only allows countries with transitional economies to employ foreign exchange controls.http://www.answers.com/topic/foreign-exchange-controlsFrom CIA World Book - 2009 M2- in USD Ratio of M2 covered by-Reserves USD $10,990,000,000,000 - US - .007 $77,650,000,000 $134,300,000,000 - S.A. - .353 $39,980,000,000$171,600,000,000 - IS - .330 $56,640,000,000$26,100,000,000 - Iraq - 1.677 $43,760,000,000 What this ratio means is that reserves can cover Iraq 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas32 Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 OK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamierm79 Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 2 more years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coco Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Alot of good information..thanks to all for the insights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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