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sorry won't be any different if Romney gets it, That you can take to the bank. They all need to be thrown out on their azzzes. Ron Paul is the only one that will do right by the 99%. I suggest all go back and you tube Paul as far back as the late 1980's, he called all of what is happening. The guy is genuine and he cares and wants the constitution to stand for what it was meant too. As bad as Mitt maybe, he's 1000% better than the liar in office now. Gingrich, ROTFLMAO, who do you listen to, wow that guy takes the cake! Nope. It does not!! It also leaves Gingrich and Santorum. I want Gingrich, but I will vote for either of these men before I would even think of voting for Paul. In fact, the only reason I would vote for Paul is if he is the last man standing, other than obama. Above all, I want "O" out of there!!! But close behind, I want an American in the office who will help our country get back her Glory and will help our citizens get back their Pride and Patriotism. Oh, and let me not forget--one who will help us all get back the American Way, so we can find jobs and earn livings and build businesses and support families and dream dreams and laugh again about that now-defunct Triumvirate of Horror, Obama, Reid, and Pelosi, whose very names will go down in infamy.

I love your reply and you are so right. THANK GOD SOMEONE TOLD THEM TO SHUT THE H%@#%^*()() UP WE WOULD BE SO LUCKY FOR THEM TO JUST STOP THE STUPID GURU INTEL WHICH IS A JOKE WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD ANYONE BELIEVE ANY OF THIS STUPID CRAP THEY PUT OUTTHERE DAY AFTER DAY JUST MAKES ME WANT TO PUKE ,,, sorry am just upset today peace to all

I just love it that the dozen or so Guru's that really have NEVER been right have now been told to not talk. These people have been great comic relief until now, with their blank screens, cars at banks on Sunday's, this done that done, we are minutes not hours, oops something held us up, on and on and on, over and over and over. And now this, shhhh it is National security we don't talk as we have hit the nail square on the head with the hammer! I love it, NEXT! One has to wonder if they have any clue as to how silly they really sound?

come on guys, maybe the guy made a simple mistake in his thinking about the dinar getting weaker not stronger. All those negatives? I think he now gets the picture.

Power of the people is HUGE. Some don't like the Internet because it takes away from the control the major media has. They can't put out the BS they like. Keep raising your voices, we the American people are the ones that count not the 1% like they think they do!

Ron Paul is the only one that is qualified and that is NOT imo. Record shows and speaks very cleary, he is for the little guy and wants change worse than any one else. Go Ron Paul, Vote people vote and spread the word to study what Ron Paul has said for decades, watch the you tubes. This amazing man has seen it coming for years!

Hot damn, 12 bux, far better than I expected? Why is this moron still posting. Damage control needs to be done because there actually could be a few that still believe this Idiot, yes idiot, no other word to describe him and I sure hope nobody runs out and buys more because of what people like him say!

Very nice post. The people are waking up ever so slowly and it takes all of us to send out articles like this to help educate the people. The media sure won't help anyone but who they are told to help.

Good luck on getting Maliki to step down, won't happen in my opinion!

Funny how some can just post what they think they see. Maybe you should sell then? What do you have to support your stance on what Shabibi is intending? Go back and listen to the discussion at the chamber of commerce and you will notice two distinct questions, with two completely different answers. The first asks if the are planning to RV, which he states that even if he knew he could not say. The next question is asking about redenomination, which he goes into a long explanation of what they are looking at before taking that action. But you might want to clean your own ears out before hand so that you can really hear what he says... In regards to being negative, maybe you should mention that to Shabibi and Saleh since it was they who have stated that a 25,000 note would carry the same value as a new 25 note. It is those two that have stated that the physical monetary supply would contract from 25+ trillion to 15+ billion.

AMEN. Are you kidding me? THATS THE PROBLEM IN AMERICA NOW!!! PEOPLE LIKE YOU DON'T GIVE A SH**!!!! If you don't care about this country you should move on to Venezuela, we don't need you here.... With your attitude your RV money won't last long.......

Then maybe you need to clean out your ears? By the way, why in the heck do you even own any dinar or do you? You are boardering on pathetic. Take a break, I have had enough of reading your negative. Nobody knows what the outcome will be, including you and I. For me I bought what I can afford and will wait and see what happens. Good luck. I think thats where the confusion may be, it seems that I really am listening to what Shabibi is saying rather then what I just think and want him to be saying....

One has to also wonder why these very same long standing DV "dinar" holders, "if" they hold dinar are downing every post that comes along. Would you not think that if they thought they were going to lose they would sell and move on with life? EH HUH? They also are stating their so called opinion of what the articles mean just like the rest! I would like to know if there is anyone that has read this article that believes it is talking about a straight-up RV? I don't believe that anyone really believes they are talking about an RV; although, I could be wrong. My point is, there are long-standing, respected DV members that have been simply stating what this article is saying and they are getting bashed and called names. Yes, it COULD BE smoke, but we do not know that; we don't know what they are going to do, no one does until they do it. If you are one of those people that thinks this is just smoke, then you must realize that this article is talking about an RD or you wouldn't say it was smoke. Why attack someone for simply stating what the article says? Yes, it could be smoke, but that's not what the article states. At least agree to agree on that and then maybe put our heads together and figure out what we can do next. We are at risk of losing some MORE knowledgeable and respected members on this site if the bashing continues. Just sayin............... Bash away, but it just had to be said. What's right is right and it is what it is, so let's move on and be friends. Kimberlye

Boy you got that right. JPM needs to go bye bye once and for alll and I think when that finally does happen there will be a whole lot of party's goin on. Report: JP. Morgan has lost five billion dollars due to the European exposure JP ain't worried! They just call the Fed and ask them to click a button and credit their account. No need to print the $5 billion -- it is all "virtual". Some call it "FM" (you know, "F*'n Magic!)

Google is your friend you can google a whole lot of people calling the dinar a scam. One should not listen to every thing they read and maybe ya should listen to more of what Shabs has to say eh? No, IMF, World bank, and CIA factbook..... Check it out for yourself....google is your friend....

They have doctors for people like Frank.

Dream on! This isent about the US govt......or any govt for that matter....

so you listen to the gurus? LMAO, first mistake But who says they are actually pulling in dinars? Nothing supports that statement except for what the gurus tell us

What do you mean?? And what if it is true they have retired 80% or more already to? You don't know for sure and I don't know for sure either, but we are about to find out eh? What do you mean?? Thats one of the things that is tracked and audited.....they do specifically even state how much of each bill was printed...

If they were going to lop, they would NOT BE PULLING IN DINARS. That is a given and something else for people to ponder!!!!!!!!!!!! It may be happening now, they are pulling in dinar, and it sounds like they are tightening up the borders, anyway some articles mentioned this.

yes it does make the lopsters high, that glue will do it lol.

One thing to ponder here and appears all have overlooked this. Think about it, they talk about years to get all the money back in. Why would they do that? IMO they would not. This is the smokiest of the smoke so far and it feels good. They will simply have a time limit just like they did in 2003. 30 days, 90 days, 6 months? Who knows but again it would be really stupid to wait years when they can have it done fast and if you don't turn in you lose. To simple huh?

Just curios, if they lop and a 25000 note is now 25 note and goes to 3 bux, how does this equal a 200% gain? You must be using one of the 1970 calculators. Sometimes best to just not say nuttin. I have seen a LOT of people say "worst case scenario, it lops and we break even". I've even seen some people thinking that the worst case scenario is that it lops and goes up to three bucks and you only make a 200% profit. The cold hard facts are that neither of these things is even remotely true. The absolute WORST case scenario is that Iraq closes its borders, lops, and foreign speculators lose everything. I'm not saying this is likely, I'm just saying it is possible, and you know it's possible because that's basically what they did with the Saddam dinar. More likely would be that, if they lop, the borders will remain open and you will be able to get SOME money back for your dinar. So let's think about how much you're likely to get. Right now, virtually no banks will buy your dinar from you. I won't say ALL, because I'm sure someone knows at least one that will, but you have to admit that ALMOST all of them don't want anything to do with it. Now, if they lop, that situation just gets worse. Banks don't want to touch it now, they're certainly not going to want to have anything to do with it once it no longbecome the current currency of Iraq. That means going through a dinar dealer, again. Right now, most dinar dealers are charging about a 40% spread. And that's when they don't have you over a barrel. I don't think they will be any kinder if it lops, and they're the only way you'll get any money back. In all likelihood they will get worse, and charge an even bigger spread. But let's just assume they'll charge exactly the same spread that is typical right now. Right now a million dinar is worth about 854.70, and a typical dealer price is $1180 per million. That is a 38% spread. If you paid $1220 per million, that is a little worse, a 42.7% spread. The same spreads, if charged on cash in after a lop, work out to $529.91 per million at 38%, or 489.74 at a 42.7% spread. That is a loss of either 650.09 or 730.26 per million. Or a loss of either 55.1% or 59.9%, if you want to look at it that way. If you bought lower denoms, it can get much, much worse. We've all seen the ad at the top of the page for 180,000 dinar for $550. That is a staggering 257% spread. If it lops, and you go to cash in and get charged a typical 40% spread, that 180000 dinar will only get you $92.31. That is a loss of $2,542.46 PER MILLION. A loss of 83.2%. Now, I'm sure most people are smart enough not to be paying that much for low denoms, but SOME people have to be paying it. No dinar dealer is going to pay good money for all that advertising if it's not getting them ANY sales, so some people definitely are paying that much, and it absolutely could result in them losing 83% of their investment. So there it is, that's the math. I'm not guaranteeing a lop (although I think it is very likely). I'm just saying that those people that say the worst you can do is break even have not done the math. The next time you see someone say that, you can tell them that losing 55% isn't even close to breaking even. A lot of people have only invested what they can afford to lose, but we all know there are also a lot of people that HAVE over invested. To those people, if you can't afford to lose 55%+ of your investment, you should think about reducing your investment now to a level that you're more comfortable with.

What is really sad is a few years ago when banks were loaning to people that could NOT afford the home they were buying but were being told by that very bank, OH don't worry about it, you can't afford it but the prices keep going up and within a year or two your home will have appreciated a lot and worth much more, it is like having a savings account. Sounded good to many and how many here heard just that? Well in reality these very same banks, took out insurance, betting you will lose your home and they make more money than ever. Not only that they have the backing of the FDIC. This is a total freaking joke what has happened in our Country! IMO if you are in foreclosure and you get that dreaded letter to move out, spend the money, get an Attorney and ask them to prove they even own your mortgage? My guess is if you financed from the time period of around 2004 to 2008, they cannot. Your loan was shuffled around and put into derivatives. If any thing this may help you stay in your home for months longer while waiting on the proof. Banks are for the most part, GREEDY SOB's backed by a very faulty system. What ever happened to, if you want to borrow money, give collateral and at least have a job! Get pisssed America and wake up.

Chase won't get a dime of my money. As far as banks, either community banks or credit unions. PERIOD.