carlos in san diego

Thanks Razur for the though provoking post! The mental images I got while reading your post were very grim. The visions of the fields of dead make me feel sorry for those who have died for what they thought were the noblest of causes. They were told by our government and media that they were needed to defend our freedoms. They innocently believed what they were told repeatedly and did not waver in their resolve. The real losers were the family members who had to live with the gaping holes in their souls due to the loss of these family members, all the while those who deceived them sat comfortably in their country clubs, sipping their drinks with their feet up, while they made obscene amounts money at the expense of their less educated and poorer country men and women who were deceived by the controlled media and politicians into taking up arms in foreign countries...so that they could profit. These Bankers did not have the balls to do their own fighting, not when they could take advantage of the naiveté of the brainwashed population who were unwitting participants, in their plans to control the resources of other people in far away lands.Our men and women in uniform believed their politicians and media, without knowing that they were being manipulated. They bare no blame, and should not share in the guilt associated with the deaths of millions of innocents. So cris...who would you ask me to vote for? I'll tell you who I'm voting for....He's the only one who wants to get rid of the FEDERAL RESERVE, and do away with our worthless debt based fiat currency and return us to the GOLD STANDARD, he also wants to END ALL FOREIGN WARS OF IMPERIALISM, and bring the troops home from around the world. He's the only candidate who understands the meaning of the word "INTEGRITY" he is the only candidate who has not compromised his principles for the sake of 40 silver coins. RON PAUL! You can vote for the garbage you call a candidate...that's your choice! The choices you make in life tell what kind of a person you are!....You don't look very upstanding to me! Carlos

Right On Umbertino! Paul Ryan has been an elitist boot licker for a long time! So has Romney...I mean...Mitt the twit! Carlos

DELTA: You obviously troubled with fear. You have been programmed to fear by your own government and politicians because they use the fear they instill in you to control you. To the New World Order, it's all about control, but not that you are going to control them, they will control you by using psych ops to do it. Your obvious fear of COMMUNISM is deep rooted. Your government and the controlled media built an image in your mind and that of the millions of inhabitants of this country, that you never realized you had, and you have not figured out how to dispel from your psyche. Now there is a new reason they have given you to fear...Now it's called TERRORISM. The New World Order has put the old enemy to bed and introduced a "new and improved" national enemy for you for to focus your fear and hatred on. The facts are that if you know the truth about history you will come to realize that the COMMUNISTS never did anything thing to us, and the same is true of the new threat...the TERRORISTS. Any events that your government and politicians have used to continue to instill fear in you have all been "false flag attacks" created by your own government to instill fear in you and the other people in this country to control the masses. Fidel castro was a revolutionary who took out the ELITE that ran and completely controlled the economy in Cuba. They were the owners of 95% of all the land in Cuba, leaving nothing for the peasant class. The revolution was a success for the masses in Cuba and a failure for the New World Order. It was a struggle between the 1% and the 99%. Your fears are completely unfounded and show the degree of your brainwashing, but don't feel like your all alone out there, their are plenty of people who share your distorted view of history. You have plenty of company...but, I'm not one of them. We now have new enemies to fear and learn how to hate. people who have done nothing to us, but are being villanized to further an agenda that you still don't understand. An Imperialist agenda that need the people united in fear and hate against an enemy that your government wants to conquer. Classic example is Iraq. The claim was that Iraq was a member of the "axis of evil" and was a bad man who had WMD, and was responsible for the attacks on the Twin Towers in New York. None of it was true and no WMD was ever found. Start using your head Delta! Carlos

Watch the movie..."LOOSE CHANGE, 9/11, AN AMERICAN COUP". Available on NETFLIX Or the movie..."ETHOS" also on NETFLIX, you will see the evidence that would convince "any normal rational person" (legal definition for evidence) that what happened was a preplanned implosion. The buildings were designed to take multiple hits from several 707 jetliners, the largest plane of it's time. The aircraft that hit the twin towers did not bring them down, it was the controlled implosions that did. Buddy...if after all these years you still don't know what actually happened on 9/11, you owe it to yourself to find out the real TRUTH. These are not new movies...and there are many more available in the NETFLIX documentary library that deal with this and other relevant issues like this one. After you have seen the evidence, and you still don't believe it, then we can debate the pros and cons, until then, you are at a disadvantage. You have provided no proof of anything to the contrary Cris....other than hot air, because you cannot fight the truth, it stands by itself. You think your in the majority....you will see how wrong you are soon enough. When the time comes and your banker friends are running for their lives, we will find you hiding under a rock pissing your pants! Carlos That's right honey...I'm tired of the lies and deceit from both parties! Both parties are up to their necks in vile corruption. It's the ignorant who continue to support them, or those who are also corrupt and don't want to see the gravy train end. Carlos

The murder of the millions that I'm talking about are the millions killed in every war, or terrorist attempt made in the world since world war two. Starting with the Korean war, the Vietnam War all the way up to the current war in Syria. I also include the war in Iraq and the upcoming war with Iran, that the New World Order is trying to bring about in order to gain control of Iran's oil fields and central Bank. It was the same picture with Iraq. Gain control of the oil fields and the central bank in order to enslave the people Iraq into a debt based society like we have here in this country. The objectives are simple if looked at without the patriotic rhetoric we get from our MSM. WAR IS PROFITABLE for weapons manufacturers and the banking criminals who loan money to both opposing sides of the conflict that they started themselves. The amounts loaned to these opposing sides are not chump change. The bank is benefited by having their loans guaranteed because the bill is payed by the countries people who must pay for the wars through their ever increasing taxes...Just like what is happening to us in this country. right now. We are paying for two wars, Iraq and Afghanistan, when neither country did anything to us. In Iran...the Taliban was put in place by Pakistan...one of our "allies" So that our government could point a finger of guilt at them and justify military action. This is fact! Not a conspiracy theory. We continue to pay for wars where the alleged antagonist was completely fabricated by the New World Order. The Twin Towers in New York were brought down by the Bush Administration in a controlled implosion to make it look as though "terrorists" were to blame. This is called a "false flag attack" The blame was immediately put on Saddam Hussain and, Iran, neither had absolutely anything to do with the attack on the Twin Towers. The objective was...again, control of the countries oil fields and central bank. the real terrorists in this world are the people that run our government, the British government and the government of Israel. This is the true axis of evil. Get off the 1% v 99% DUNG! Why, because the truth is uncomfortable? Because it makes you leave you comfort zone? Because it's too outlandish to be true? What you are defending, with the continuous argument about the differences between the Democrats and the Republicans is irrelevant because both political parties in this country are completely controlled by the New World Order. Your vote is irrelevant because it's not your agenda that is being carried out in Washington. That is why your government does not work for you. It's because it's not supposed to work for you...it's supposed to work only for the elite Bankers and their privileged few. None of what I am saying is recent news. The facts have been available for all to see for years now. I have seen the evidence and stand behind what I say. If you don't know about it at this point in time, means that you have ignored the truth, comforting yourself with what you are hearing from the controlled media as being the truth. The hand writing is on the wall for all to see. You ignore it at your own peril. Carlos There is no right side heavy-duty! Both political parties are controlled by the same people. They have bought control of our elected officials through campaign contributions. Neither party has any allegiance to the American people. Their allegiance is to the Banker Elite that run this country. If you still believe the rhetoric...then you have not been learning anything from the news posted right here on this forum everyday. Bank scandals, government corruption, monetary crisis, fraud, bailouts, the list goes on and on everyday....How can you not connect the dots? Carlos I see your still defending criminals...have you no ethics? How much are you being paid to monitor this site by your masters? The elite bankers! Carlos

Thanks machine for the post...glad your with us! Carlos

Dinar millionaire...With all due respect your dealing with a whole lot of misconceptions that have distorted your views of the American public. It's clear you draw a line in the sand and insist we be on one side or the other. This is divisive and not constructive. We need to find common ground among ourselves and leave behind the views that crete hate and anger. We are a good people, that work hard, and contribute to the well being of our families and friends. If we do not stand together we are doomed to failure! These issue are issues the PTB would like to have us fighting over so that we do not focus on the real issues. Lack of a balanced budget, the theft of trillions by the Banksters, the takeover of our government by the fascists New World Order, the complete control of our main stream media, and the murder of millions since the end of world war two, by these same criminals. certainly there are other things that are more important to talk about...things that TPTB would rather you knew nothing about, and did not dare to talk about! Carlos I think the real question should be...are you on the side of the New Wold Order fascists, the 1% of our population, or are you on the side of the 99% of the US population? Carlos

Thanks Lostrn for the thread! And, welcome to DV! I'm glad to see more and more people are becoming aware of the monster that is behind the Euro and the European Union. It's a monster who's time should end. The European Union and The US are being run by Bankers. The people no longer have a vote in their own futures. Just like us Americans, the monster is manipulating the news and events to steer our economies to benefit only the very rich and powerful. Austerity measures, hunger, and unemployment, despair are what our future holds. The EU and the Euro are a part of The New World Order's attempts at a single world government and single currency. Greed has caused the economic problems that we face in Europe and in the US, yet we the people will pay the price for those who sold us out for 40 silver coins. Carlos

There's a saying that goes something like this..."in war, truth is the first victim" And this is a war. It's a war being waged against the majority of the people of this country by the 1%. THe New World Order Elite, who are determined to deprive us of what we as a society have struggled to keep. Our Social Security benefits, Medicare, and every other government administered benefit we believe we are entitled to by law is under attack by the Fascist run government that has taken control of our nation. The loudest voices for this new theft come from the right wing...From the GOP, and has for years, because they do the bidding for the fascists...New World Order! They have been trying to convince the people, that those that expect some day to collect Social Security or Medicare, are nothing more than social leaches who want a free handout from the government. They have slowly but surely demonized those people through the use of the prostitute media and their "paid for" politicians, who would make us believe that all the problems we face as a nation are created by these same leaches who do not deserve these free handouts. I don't know how you folks feel, but in my case I worked all my life thinking that the money that was taken from my weekly paycheck to pay for my Social Security and Medicare were in fact an agreement with the American working man and woman made decades before I was even born to guarantee our well being after we got older and could no longer work. We were given no options as to whether or not we wanted to contribute. The weekly withdrawals were never a matter of choice. I don't call Social Security and Medicare "entitlements" To me they are not government freebies, I worked to pay for them and will not allow our Fascist controlled government to take them away without a fight. I paid for them with the sweat from my brow and now some rich fat cat wants to take them away, because he thinks he's better qualified than me to decide where that money goes? Well, I'm not naive. I know right were he plans on putting that "extra," new found money...RIGHT IN HIS POCKET! ... It ain't going to happen! Carlos

Thanks Easy: I just read the same thing in Rumormillnews. What I was wondering is whether this overhaul of the "old"system, only effects the rate change created by the recent revelation about the Libor rate fraud, as was mentioned or would it also include issuance of the new "US Treasury Note that is alleged to replace the fiat US Reserve Note that is about to fall? Seems to me...that if they were going to reset the worlds economy and put it in a coma in order to figure out what to do, that they would certainly consider another contributing factor...that is the fiat Reserve Note. With our government being controlled by the New World order fascist criminals it makes me wonder who is it that is steering our economy? Certainly "someone" is making determinations and decisions supposedly on the behalf of the american people. What ever happens I hope it's for the best and that the Banker Gangsters are taken down. And, that those who sold out our country and it's people for forty coins of silver meet the justice that has been long overdue. This includes most of our elected officials in Washington, and the heads of every bank in the country, and the heads of most Corporations, especial those involved in the manufacturing and sale of military weapons and equipment, and every lobbyist in the country. Carlos

Cris: Why do you continue to support the criminal element that now runs our government? Is it because your vote was partially responsible for putting them in office and your not man enough to admit to yourself that you were DEAD WRONG! So you continue to propagate their myth by continuing the lies, half truths, and distortions? Or are you here to monitor this site for your masters? Does your job description include the words "sell out?" Carlos Your "friend" Romney...aka, "Mitt the twitt" is a vulture capitalist, this is your idea of a "good" choice? Carlos

You will believe it when it happens, and it will happen! The neo-con fascists will do it. It's been a part of their plan all along. Ryan and the rest of the sell outs are only following orders from their Elite masters! If you believe what you are being told is propaganda then your in for a very rude wake up call one day. If you want to know the truth watch the movie "Ethos" available on NETFLIX. What we have been told by our controlled media, and our puppet politicians is the real propaganda! Until you know the truth you will always be just another victim of the Elite, another one among many millions! Your thinking is that we must accept the least of two evils...well, since that is the case, then there is obviously no choice at all! And if the election does not give us true choices: then, ask yourself who is benefiting? It's clearly not us...so who is the beneficiary? Then you need to follow the money, and who are the largest campaign contributors? Large corporations. Who owns the corporations? The Elite. Carlos Carlos

That's a lowly thing to do. And...just what i would expect from someone who is looking out for himself, with no sense of community, fact is, I'm not afraid of anyone or anything....Why...because who ever comes up to my place looking for problems is going to have a loaded WEAPON pointed right between his eyes! I've had better people than you try and intimidate me Chris...and they lost, and so will you. You may think you are among some kind moral majority, but that's just wishful thinking, you are loosing more and more of that majority every day as more and more people become aware of who the real world criminals are. Personally, I was brought up to respect life and to uphold what is right and correct, and you and your masters are wrong. Wrong for depriving humanity of it's right to thrive peacefully. The New World order is responsible for killing millions of people around the world since the second world war. No one I know who claims to be real men would ever support such trash! Except you and JonJon boy. I still say your planted here to monitor this site for the fascists that run our government. your here to make sure the brainwashed sheeple stay in line with your masters orders. You Chris and JonJon are sell outs that are no better than are cheap prostitute politicians who will do anything for dirty money! Your fighting a loosing battle with a rising tide and are about to be swept away with the debris. Swept away with the rest of the garbage, The wall street bankers, the elite, the thieving, lying politicians, and al the fat cat defense contractors that have profited from a manipulated government for too long at the expense of humanity. Your free ride is over and you will pay for your sins against humanity. Like I said before...when the stuff hits the fan you will be found under a rock pissing your pants! There will be no where to hide. CARLOS

Sprayduster: Both political parties in this country are controlled by the same people and guess what? IIT AIN'T US! Your hatred for Obama and the Democrats has been implanted in your head through the use of a corrupt and controlled media. The elite want to plant the hatred in your mind because it serves their purpose. That purpose is that when you hate something they can control you for their ends. They do this to use you at some point in time to do their dirty work. Everything we see happening to us since 9/11 already happened before in history during the Third Reich and the rise of Adolph Hitler. Dictators learn from each other, what works and what does not work to control the masses. We do not know the truth because we have all been brainwashed by 60 years of media control. What we see on the evening news is what we believe. Please watch the movie "ETHOS? on netflix in the documentary section. Their internet library is well stocked with relevant documentaries that will open your eyes to many of the misconceptions that we hold. Have a good night. Carlos

Hey Jag,,,this is not the time to despair..keep things in perspective man! WE are the majority, and THEY are the minority, The American people are the most armed nation on earth, thanks to the constitution, and those who have fought for our liberty. The economy will crash, and there is no doubt. The continued printing of money is the only thing keeping it going, and it can't go on forever before the house of cards collapses. When the stuff hits the fan, the people like Chris and JonJon will be found hiding under a rock, pissing their pants! Keep focused friend. Carlos Sprayduster...if you think the economy will continue as is.... until those dates your talking about, your dreaming! I just don't think so! IHHO! Carlos

The american people don't hate success JonJon! The capitalist system has taken many black eyes due to the greatest rip off the world has ever seen. The Wall Street Bankers have been the cause of it all, and I hope they all wind up in jail where they belong. Everyday we learn new sordid news of wanton thievery from the Banksters. It's undeniable that the end of the fiat based currency system is close at hand. The pyramid scheme they have built is not sustainable. The American people are not responsible for what is happening to us economically. We continue to be the hardest working, most productive people in the world. We will not knowingly bring down the same economic system that we need to feed and shelter our families. Whats unfortunate for us, is the fact that long ago the Banksters took control of our media and our government. They use the media to feed us B/S about what nice guys the are, and they use their influence on our government officials to have them pass laws that protect the interests of their interests. The Banksters have gotten our government officials to pass laws that have eliminated almost completely the need for them and their corporations to pay any tax at all.The Banksters control both the Republican Party and the Democratic party, clearing the way for them to completely control almost every aspect of our lives. We must put an end to this fascist government. Do NOT vote Republican or Democratic this coming election...Carlos

RIGHT ON BROTHER! The American people need to know that their own government and the governments of the UK and Israel have been behind every war or terrorist incident since WWII. WE are the terrorists! NOT THOSE WE BLAME! This is the TRUTH! Carlos

Roger> i was once brainwashed. i was a democrat. this last election I voted for Ron Paul using a democratic ticket to send a message to the Democrats in my own little way that I was angry. Angry to find out the Democratic politicians were also bought and paid for by their bosses in the NEW WORLD ORDER. To those I offended with my name calling...I sincerely apologize. My point to what I said...was that BOTH parties are equally culpable of betraying the american people. We should support neither of their candidates because they do not represent the interests of the american people, but the interests of the ruling elite. The fascist new world order. have made it so that it does not matter who wins the election, because it will be their candidate that wins no matter what. Carlos

delta...how can you continue to pump this political junk that you put out. I know you have been reading the TRUTH regarding the Republican party AND, the democratic parties being owned and operated by the NEW WORLD ORDER. The support these ultra rich is what has empowered them to continue to expand their efforts to take over our government, our military. These are the same people who have made your vote and mine irrelevant because they rig election outcomes, and have for decades. They have run our country and it's economy into the ground in their efforts to continue to enrich themselves at the expense of the majority of the working class in America. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF. You are doing a dis-service to the community by continuing to propagate the lies. The proof is now coming out. BANKSTERS are now being arrested all over the world. Politicians will be next...among them the majority of the heads of the Republican party, and many from the democratic party as well. The word BANSTER is made up of two words. Banker and Gangster. you are a brainwashed fool, helping to further brainwash others....and there is absolutely nothing YOU will gain from it...after the economy collapses! I hope what they pay you for monitoring this site is worth betraying the american people! No one gets paid to monitor this site! and please stop the name calling! carlos

It's about frikin' time! I'm glad! Saw this video yesterday, thanks for bringing it to the forum! Maybe there is hope for humanity after all...I was starting to loose faith in humankind. Carlos

Transcript taken directly from Rumormillnews, dated 8/4/2012. Source: Neil Keegan The transcript has copies of original documents mentioned below. Please look them up yourselves, if you doubt their authenticity. 1.-LIEN AFFIDAVIT AGAINST THE FEDERAL RESERVE (THE FED) 2.-CEASE AND DESIST ORDER TO UBS-BIS, PLUS EVIDENCE 3.-LEAN AFFIDAVIT AGAINST NETHERLANDS CENTRAL BANK 3.-LEAN AFFIDAVIT AGAINST JAPAN CENTRAL BANK 4.-LEAN AFFIDAVIT AGAINST ITALY CENTRAL BANK 5.-LEAN AFFIDAVIT AGAINST FRANCE CENTRAL BANK 6.-LEAN AFFIDAVIT AGAINST BUNDESBANK LIEN AFFIDAVIT AGAINST BELGIUM CENTRAL BANK Personal note: please note that the baks that are involved in the suits are banks controlled by the WESTERN BANKING CABAL. THEY ARE A FASCIST ORGANIZATION, They are not Democratic in nature, but a dictatorship! Please stop supporting the political parties in the United States. Hold both political parties accountable for the sell out of America... to the corporate monsters that run our government. Our system is broken completely, with the need of corporations and their stock holders being placed ahead of the needs of the majority of Americans. The rip off we have witnessed is the greatest rip off ever known in world history. Stop defending the system that promotes the fall of our country for the greed of the fascists. Educate yourselves, and speak out against all who are corrupt without turning a blind eye to YOUR political parties wrongdoing simply because you have been trained to defend them! These people are not your friends, despite what you have been led to believe, they are all only "out for themselves" and no one else. BOTh parties the Democrats and Republicans in Washington are all corrupt and need to go! Vote them all out! Thanks...Carlos

I quote from opinion of full article posted in rumormillnews: IMO Obama does not have one American fiber in his body and definitely no soul. When is someone going to arrest him for being an undocumented worker!....He uses a deadman's social security number from Connecticut This tell me that Obama is a fraud in every way possible. If any of us did that, the s@it would hit the fan. That is discrimination against the American people with intended treason which we are all witnessing. The military earned the right to vote, and they have the right. The Obama and his administration are spoil (sic) brats! and all of them need a "good ole butt busting" with a paddle to straighten them out. Vote Obama out in November and save America! Regards, seawitch, from rumormillnews Brought to you by carlos

That's plain dumb to EVEN think that Iran wants war with the west! The western bankers overthrew the legitimate government of Iran in the 1950's. The aim was to control Iran's oil and central bank. The western powers were stealing as much as 80 % of the revenues from Iran corrupt US backed dictator. Once Iran overthrew the US supported dictator, the west immediately tried to start a war. This time using another US puppet dictator called Saddam Hussain. The war lasted 8 years and killed millions of innocent people. The US and britain have tried to overthrow the Iranian Government since then...It's not Iran that wants war...IT"S the US, Britain and Israel. The true axis of evil! Carlos

Thanks machine. The "chain of events" in my case has lasted more than eight years now, and the RV is always "tomorrow". There's a post in todays lineup about the Iraqis "agreeing to keep the new currency". I think that those that have been watching would agree that we've seen a string of news items come out of Iraq that lead one to think their new currency printing is designed to replace the Bremer dinar all together. Official plans saying the opposite were designed to mislead us. I don't think the Iraqis feel they need to make us all rich overnight, like many people think. Face the facts......the US got absolutely NOTHING from our hyped up invasion and military occupation of Iraq. An occupation designed to take control of their oil and central bank. A war that killed thousands of our young people and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis! Can we really expect the Iraqis to RV their currency just to make us rich? Just because we have been waiting a long time? Don't hold your breaths folks! IMHO. Carlos

If I remember Loco1...The debate that started this whole thing centers around people needing ID to vote, the justification for this was that it was to prevent illegals from voting. I heard the results of an investigation that happened in Florida in the not too distant past, regarding thos same issue. The unbiased results were that they people carrying out the investigation only found evidence of only ONE illegal voting in an election. Yet this is the justification for denying the vote to many poor and elderly who cannot afford an ID? Where I live in Socal, It's infested with Mexicans, They are a part of the community, legal and illegal. I know spanish as well as I do english and communicate just as freely in both languages. I speak to illegals every day...and know for a fact of not one case of voter fraud! These people keep a low profile. They do not want to rock their own boats in any way...most will not even call the police when they are the victims of a crime...because they are afraid to call attention to themselves.....illegally voting in a US national election for them is out of the question! It does not happen! Carlos Yes it is easy to find out who the conservatives are in my area. They are the ones that flood the airwaves with lies and distorted truths., because they enjoy the backing of those that have all the money in the world. Money they stole from us! These are the same ones who sponsor ambiguously worded laws that eventually benefit only them and their crony friends, They lie to us and tell us that it will benefit us, but, it never does! Everyone in the GOP is a crook! You should be ashamed to defend them! Carlos