HeavyDuty

My apologies, I did not mean to state that ALL of the people here on DV were takers and free loaders; just the ones with the big mouths. There are a lot of people that are still here that I like very much. HD

Well it seems that guilty by association is the way of this site so I guess I am guilty as well. Cause Scooter is my friend now and will always be. He gave and gave freely, never charged for advice or his hundreds of hours for research and delivery to this site. Always glad to do conference calls and be there for all who needed him. He always said to me "I don't know everything about this Dinar ride so I think that the more opinions and research we can get from others will be helpful in our mutual quest" I always agreed with him. We had a lot of smart, insightful people on this site. Where are they now?? Where did they all go?? And we must ask why did they leave?? Why no more posts or topics from them?? Hmmmm, food for lots of thought!! Now all we have are takers, commentators, jabbers, free loaders and whoremongers. No insight, no research, no healthy debate, no nothing. This site has let the newbies with their tunnel vision take over. It has let those with the loudest mouths with nothing to say, speak with volumes. Sad, very sad. The owner of the site had an opportunity to shut it all down; instead he poured gasoline on the situation. Instead of telling loud mouth chuckles to shut up, he invited more rudeness. And yet what did Chuckster bring to the table?? Where were his insights, research?? Where was his years of experience?? How about his take on various articles and what they meant?? Oh, that's right, there were none, just senseless babble from a wart on a hogs A$$. And what from Adam Montana, he offers nothing as well, no research or insight. Oh, I'm sorry, he does give you the "just talked to Sonny1 and hear is what he said.....I am encouraged by this but I can't tell you any more unless you PAY me for the privilege." Scooter never asked for a penny. The Scooter roast will still take place after the RV where we can all get together. Adam Montana and Chuckles are invited to the big bash. We will use them both as piñatas for the group; but don't worry guys we will only use plastic bats on you. Good people have left, Mods are jumping ship, at some point you the readers will finally figure it all out, I hope. Guilty by association, that's me, and I'm right behind you Scooter. Your friend, HD

Hey little brother, The colors and graphs are awesome. You paid attention in art class and mom is very proud of you. I know your hoping they will make a movie out of your Tri-Fecta series, but Megan Fox, who wanted to play the part of the USA was already taken by Fonzie who beat out Doogie Houser for the honors, so she bowed out of the screening. Good news is Johnny Depp wants to play the Chinese spy part while Angelina Jolie is the seductive and cunning Ruskie of the movie. It should take place in the sandy hills if Iraq. Between the goat kabobs and the camel races it should be quite the thriller. BTW...Will Smith hasnt gotten back to us on the part of Pres Obama. He is perfect with his ear structure being the same and all. Still no takers on the acting position for Biden, but Minnie Pearl wants the job for Hillarious. Anyway, good post as always and I hope Spielberg can put this movie deal together for you before the RV. HD Your big brother

Scooter, I just finished putting together post #5 for you. My fingers still hurt from cutting out all the diagrams and there sticky from all the glueing you wanted me to do. Now you promised everyone a summation posting. I can't work that fast and get it to you to post. Dad wants me to go hunting with him and mom, well you know mom and how she always likes me to come over so she can cook for me. It's just a lot to do, but your my little brother, so I will get the summation done for you as fast as I can. Your big brother HD PS Had 2 slices of moms german chocolate cake, mmmmmmmm, the best. Sorry I didnt leave you any

Scooter...this post is awesome, but that is what we have come to expect from you. However, I have 1 very serious question that will take some intense research. Trifecta means 3, so why are you making a fourth post? Should'nt this have all be done by your 3rd post? Should we be on the lookout for a 5th posting. Just sayin.... HD...your big brother

Ladies and Gentleman...Let me explain. The operational exchange rates have a posting date and an effective date. They will be posted and effective AFTER the rate exchange has already taken place. So in effect you will be getting information on the UN site that has already taken place. Why? Because if they posted the rates and then the exchange took place afterwards, thousands of investors would simply go to the site, see which curriencies were going down or up and buy or sell accordingly. It would amount to insider trading and people would make millions. So, sit back and enjoy the ride. That's all you can do.

Ladies and Gentleman...Let me explain. The operational exchange rates have a posting date and an effective date. They will be posted and effective AFTER the rate exchange has already taken place. So in effect you will be getting information on the UN site that has already taken place. Why? Because if they posted the rates and then the exchange took place afterwards, thousands of investors would simply go to the site, see which curriencies were going down or up and buy or sell accordingly. It would amount to insider trading and people would make millions. So, sit back and enjoy the ride. That's all you can do.

Can someone tell me who this guy Scooter is? He sounds like some kind of brainiac. HD

Phoenix, I have followed your posts for some time. Your posts are short, sweet and to the point. Never a lot of Blah Blah Blah. I'm sorry that some people cannot read what you wrote, rather they read what they thought you said. I got what you were saying first time around. Thank you What I don't get is the disrespect from some of the members when for months you were the lone wolf, the salmon swimming up stream, the ONLY ONE that had it right with Maliki. So that in itself should make you like E.F. Hutton, when Phoenix talks, we should listen. Or at least I did and still do. I am planning a roast for Scooter for all of his hard work and dedication to this site. It's a time for all of us to get together and have a great time post RV. I would personally like to invite you as my guest. Just post to my profile and I will get you the details as they become available post RV. Thanks for all you do, I for one am grateful. Hope you will join us for the party. HD

Steve1.... Excellent point made on the pipeline sharing and the Dinar value. Just another peg filling in the holes. HD

Now Eddinar, there you go making perfect sense again. I sure am gald that you are buying the second round at the Scooter Roast. Scooter is buying the 1st round. LOL Keep the faith, it's coming. Hands Up Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee HD

Get back to work on those graphs and charts and quit milking the sickness stuff. LMBO HD On a serious note...really get back to work Scooter. LOL

Phoenix, You may have read where I am hosting a Roast for Scooter post RV for all of his hard work and due diligence. I would like to personally invite you as well. I speak for many others when I say "we would love for you to be there". Post to my profile if you would like to have the information sent to you. Thanks for all your insight and most of all sharing it with the rest of us. That my friend is selfless! HD

Full Moon falls on the 21st of November. The last day of the Muslim holiday "feast of the sacrifice" Hmmmmmmmmm. And the Full moon is premo to the faith. We wait and see. HD

I'll see what I can do about adding him to the entertainment list. Don't forget to send me an e-mail with your advitar name and real name so we can send you the information Post RV on the roast. It will be one heck of a weekend. heavyduty.dv@gmail.com HD

Scooter, Scooter, Scooter, what can I say that hasn't been said many times before, uuuuhhhh nothing; other than the fact that over the months you have become a good and trustworthy friend. That to me is worth more than any words I could possibly put on paper. Too the rest of all of you, Scooter is all that and a bag of chips. I am honored I can count him as my friend. HD

Lets keep it going gang HD

Everybody feels the electricity in the air. We all feel that we could be on the verge of the scales tipping in our favor. As you well know, Scooter has been all that and a bag of chips for us all. I am planning a good old fashion Roast for Scooter. Putting him in the hot seat will be a fantastic way to celebrate post RV and meet all of the avitar people out there in Dinar World. If you are interested in being invited to the Scooter Roast please (post here) After all the plans for the hotels, comedians etc have been lined up, we will send out the invitations via e-mail and you will have at least 3 weeks for any schedule planning. One last thing; so this doesn't fall back in the forum pages, Make a Post. Each post keeps it on the front page of the forums. Something as simple as "I will be there" will work. Hope to see and meet each of you there!!! It will be one exciting weekend. HD 1st round is on Scooter.

It is a real pleasure to see so many with good intentions and good hearts to reach out and help others. Bless you all. HD

Scooter is all that and a bag of chips. Let the roast begin. HD

I am truly blessed to see all of the responses and the good hearts that are out there and wanting to make a difference in the world we live in. Keep up the good work and most of all...keep the faith. HD

So the RV has happened...your all cashed in. Money sitting in your bank account waiting to be spent. How will you spend this windfall?? What will be your first checks you write from your new account. Will it be a house, a new car, a boat, travel the world; everyone of us has the "first thing to do list." But then what, what will you do after your immediate list is complete. What will you do when the dust settles and the excitement is all over! I'd like you to think about that statement for just a moment. You have new wealth, you have bought your new toys and what comes next....what mark will you leave on this world...What legacy will you leave behind...or will it all just be squandered on the pleasures that the planet has to offer. Will you impact your neighborhood? What about your community? Will you donate some money, most of your money? Will you get involved with charities? Will you get your hands dirty now that you have money? Mission work, your local church, feeding the hungry, reaching out to the poor; building houses; the possibilities are endless if the desire is present. These are all questions that need attention. Each of us has the availability to impact our neighborhoods, our cities and even beyond our own boundaries if we so choose to do so. We can also choose to be selfish, non caring and have the attitude of "this is mine, go away." We all are on pins and needles waiting for this major event to occur. When this does come and land on your doorstep, how you deal with this immense blessing, how you handle this new found fortune, will determine who we are as individuals and more importantly who we are as a group of people that were in the right place at the right time to make such a difference in the world around us. If you wish to share, make a post, if not it's ok, but do some real soul searching, dig deep, explore what is around you and open your eyes to the needs, then choose a path. The question I leave you with is....What will be your legacy that YOU leave behind??? HD

HeavyDuty on September 24th, 2010 4:28 pm What proof did you offer. You offered a rate of $3.22 and that it is in the plan. Encoh agrees with you. He said it would hit that rate, if not higher, in the future, not at the time of OUR RV. That’s what we are looking for. The rate of exchange at the poit of RV not 1 or 2 years later. Sorry, The proof fell way short for the comments that Enoch made. Also, people have selective reading. He NEVER said it would RV at .003. Read it again. He even has his opinions in his post. Goodness Gracious people. Read, Re-read and read it again until you have understanding. And that applies to ALL posts. Then you can corrolate an informed opionion, and not one based on panic and mis-information. HD Thank You Heavy Duty….. You are right. It strikes me, that not only Steve failed to prove anything…. but in reality, only added further proof to just what I said. Point one from 2005 said in short: the plan was to make a Dinar equal a Dollar…. but I point out….. that it was also only a ‘Suggestion’ to be discussed. The next point on 2006, another ‘Suggestion’ was made, for a ‘Plan’ to raise the value, to $3.33 and to remove the zeros. A Suggestion is not proof that is what they will do. If you have followed my work, you will find, that guys like myself and Scooter are working very hard, to show you proof, that they do not need to remove the zeros. That was only one post of literally ‘Thousands of Pages’ of additional posts and research over the years. Again…. Suggestions are not Intent…. they are still subject to debate and approval. Now…. I am not bashing Enorste in any way….. in fact I did indeed ask to be challenged….. as many of you smart and good peeps at don't promote other sites have done, the past few days, since that post. That said, Heavy Duty, is 100 % correct. I NEVER said anything about an RV of .003. All that is referring to, is what the IMF shows right now today as the Real Exchange Rate. That can be found at the IMF website, and is Public Information Notice 10/34, dated Feb 24 2010 and published March 1, 2010 at the IMF. It shows the Defacto Rate (IMF Article XVI, CBI Auction and Program Rate of 2009 as being 1170. It also shows, the DeJure Rate…. 292, which equals, $.00342. All that means, is that the Purchase Power Parity, of 27 Trillion IQD, at the current listed auction price is only worth $20 Billion Dollars +/- a few…. The Real Rate is the DeJure Rate, that reflects the actual amount of Liquidity supporting the currency issued, is about 4 times that. That means, right now today….. even without an RV, the same 27 Trillion IQD is in reality, worth closer to $80 Billion, because right there in black and white at the IMF, since March 1, they are saying there is 4 times the liquidity to support the IQD in issue, than the current Program Rate, CBI is using. This has nothing to do with the RV. That is a different story. Did I not say, that i figure the actual RV would come out to close to a Dollar? Does Enorste not show that point with point # 1? Did I not also say, that the goals and stated objectives, are indeed over $3+ Relax, folks….. What I have said, is that our intel and analysis, is showing consistency with the Feasibility study, that is also 4 years old, which also stated why the did not think they could sustain 3.21, but that they would base economic studies on 1.13. I also suggested, the RV would not be under the lowest GCC in the region, but DO not expect it to come out initially, much over a dollar, that I believe it will take about 1 to 2 years to reach the values of $3+. There was an article released this week from Al Saleh at CBI, that also supports that….. that the plan to remove larger denominations from the market would take about 1 to 2 years. That link is available, but I am not going to post it here…. it is posted at Dinar Vets, in their Chat Transcripts…. in a post by Zekiel at DV. Maybe someone would go find that article and bring it here? I simply don’t have time right now. Now…. I could go on…. but Enorste has failed to prove me wrong….. as much as I would actually love to be wrong. LOL Thumbs up to you Enorste for the challenge. It is all good people….. friendly debate…. and we agree to disagree…. not a problem. Thanks again Heavy Duty….. you are spot on!

Enorrste Response to Enoch8 Post on Rate…… I would like to take you on a journey that will show just how the plan for the revaluation of the dinar has not only been created and laid out publicly for 5 years, but also that it has become more and more specific every year. When the “chaff” is removed from the “wheat” by poor reporting or outright falsehoods, the picture we see is very consistent and should give you all a great sense of relief that this ride is nearly over. We start our journey back in September of 2005 when an official statement was released to the media in which it was announced that Al Zubaidi, the head of the Ministry of Finance, had recommended to Shabibi, the head of the CBI, “Shabibi needs to raise the value of the Iraqi dinar and return to normal through the lifting of three zeroes.” In addition the article showed that the CBI, the Ministry of Finance, and the Central Bank would bring experts together and that “the proposals to get the value of the Iraqi dinar equivalent of [to] the American dollar, this goal we will strive to achieve.” http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28719&page=44 In June of 2006, just eight months later, the original proposal was expanded upon just slightly by the Ministry of Finance and the CBI in a joint statement: “The Ministry of Finance together with the Central Bank are studying a proposal to raise the value of the Iraqi dinar in order to return it to previous levels where one Iraqi dinar was valued at 3.33 US dollars.” Further elaboration on the plan that was being worked on was also given in the same article: “A statement by B.J. AL Zubaidi, the Minister of Finance, in which he said that he had suggested to the Chairman of the Central Bank, Dr. Sinan AL Shibibi, that three zeros be taken from the Iraqi Dinar in order to raise its value so that one Dinar be equal to a Dollar.” http://www.iraqdirectory.com/DisplayNews.aspx?id=1593 These articles provide the proof that Enoch8 was asking for in a blog that was posted recently on don't promote other sites Tidbits. We see clearly that the plan has been in place since 2005 to restore the value of the dinar to $3.33 or thereabouts, a value that it held before the Saddam Hussein regime (in other words in the early 1980s). As I have shown in my book and in posts on TheGETTeam.com since publishing my book (available for free, incidentally), the plan is still in place and will be completed this year. It would have gone into affect (the RV) early this year but the election has caused the delay of so many months (6 and counting). Steve * Enoch8 Post: One Dinar 9/20/10 SEPTEMBER 20, 2010 • POSTED IN CHATS / POSTS One comment about the coming in high theory, to bring in the big notes….. I would ask, for what purpose? To destroy them? Then who will pay us holding 1.5 Trillion IQD, 5 Trillion USD for what we hold? Hmmmmm? Iraq? And then they just destroy what they paid 5 Trillion for? NOT gonna happen that way. The money we hold will never see the shores of Iraq again, but a small percentage of it. Iraq can profit by coming in at a reasonable rate…. and continuing the auctions of currency, with the potential of yet higher rates. That is known as ‘Buy Low Sell High’. How could they buy high and then sell low? Hmmmm? That would bankrupt even Goldman Sacks! The vast majority of our money will most likely be held in our own foreign reserves ( the US and others nations holding IQD), then maybe over years and years, used to buy back some of our own (The US and Allies), currency world wide…. as it appreciates from what the World Treasuries paid for it…. to the higher values, over 3+ Forget about $3+. We are never going to see anything close to that. Maybe if we are very lucky, we will see something over a dollar. Only international treasuries will ever see those numbers. Better start having a realistic plan of action folks. SFM and Lan have not been saying that just to hear the wind blow. They do have valid reasons for saying it. I can show you how both Iraq and the US and allies, benefit from that….. can you show me how they could benefit from coming in high and reducing the value? I bet you can’t, but what I can show ya, huge holes in it….. the ‘Come in high theories’…. Prove me wrong. I love to eat crow! I have shown you how they can come up with $3.42….. but that would not be for a few years after the RV. I have tried to show you hard evidence, that they can easily come out anywhere from .003 to a little over a dollar, realistically, and turn a profit in the progressive increase in values…. both by a short term Free Float or a long term Hard Peg. Either way….. if I am wrong….. Prove it. I do agree…. they cannot come in lower than the lowest GCC rate. But then…. who am I? Just a guy. I should add…. the Bazil III mandate to increase reserves internationally…. is consistent with the thinking, that of the 27 Trillion, IQD CBI says has been distributed, I would estimate, that 20 Trillion of that is in international treasuries already, or will soon be, and the large notes will stay in those vaults and be used exclusively, as International Treasuries and notes for trading Institutionally Only, such as was and probably still is, with the Treasury and Fed Reserve of 100 K US, 10K US and 1 K US notes, Even though they are still good…. they are used only institutionally. Likewise, it would solve the problem of removing 000s. That would more than cover much of the Basil III mandate. I would also point out, by asking a question…. why did they not do that in Argentina, Turkey, North Korea or Zimbabwe? The answer is simple…. those countries do not have the ‘Stuff’ lying under the ground, to make their large notes of any practical use, to the economic powers, to want to hold in their foreign reserves. They would risk taking huge losses on those nations who had to ‘Lop’, because they could not support the cash printed into circulation> Hope that helps.

IMHO...The Pied Piper. Enough said. HD