pleasantvalleySunday Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 11:12 PM [scooter] I have no news right now --- Except 11:12 PM [scooter] the smart cards 11:12 PM [joeymax] ? 11:12 PM [scooter] are very interesting 11:13 PM [barboza] Scooter Smart cards? 11:13 PM [scooter] Barboza TY Sir --- It was a very quick answer to a question at a time of night unknown -- 11:13 PM [jimbobcookie] Scooter go ahead 11:13 PM [scooter] Unitedrich Came out October 5th ---- 11:13 PM [unitedrich] Scooter ty, did not know that 11:14 PM [mazinman61] Scooter eleberate on what ya know on the smart cards please,,,might prove intesting...thanks 11:14 PM [scooter] the ratio is indeed interesting 11:14 PM [scooter] Barboza It's for the poverty -- kind of like food stamps 11:14 PM [scooter] Barboza It's for the poverty -- kind of like food stamps 11:15 PM [barboza] Scooter I understand! 11:15 PM [scooter] It was 1250 now 250 11:15 PM [scooter] I'm confirming right now 11:15 PM [scooter] it's posted here 11:15 PM [scooter] and several other sites 11:16 PM [scooter] but don't seee the source 11:16 PM [unitedrich] that is a 5/1 ratio 111:16 PM [scooter] brb 11:16 PM [iCEMAN78] or us dollars?se to an rv 11:16 PM [scooter] Unitedrich exactly -- the ratio is very interesting 11:24 PM [scooter] The smart cards allocate money for the unemployed and very poor 111:24 PM [scooter] kind of like food stamps 11:24 PM [scooter] it's something they have as a major goal to reduce the number of users 11:24 PM [scooter] over the next five years 11:25 PM [scooter] The ratio is interesting 11:25 PM [scooter] 5:1 11:28 PM [scooter] remember how the government of finance has been shelling out money like santa clause 11:28 PM [scooter] for the past 5 months 11:28 PM [scooter] he's been providing funds to the provinces and regions 11:28 PM [scooter] this is the same thing 11:28 PM [scooter] just getting the infrastructure ready to turn the keys 11:29 PM [unitedrich] Scooter I still can't fathom why they would do a 5/1 on this 11:31 PM [scooter] operational budget and investment budget 11:31 PM [scooter] investment budget 11:31 PM [scooter] one works off the Bahraini Dinar rate 11:31 PM [scooter] and the other works off the old rate 11:32 PM [scooter] frankc -- not .2 ---- more like $5 11:32 PM [scooter] That's why It needs to verified and understaood 11:33 PM [scooter] Heck they might have a massive project fror certainm segments --- lets look into this a bit deeper --- 11:33 PM [unitedrich] Scooter Is it possible this is a trial balloon, so the Iraqi people understand the format for more of the same to come? 11:34 PM [scooter] The citizens were receiving 1250 11:34 PM [scooter] now they will be receiving 250 11:34 PM [scooter] CarrieAnn they live off of $2.00 a day 11:34 PM [aszone] Scooter thats a rumor correct 11:34 PM [CarrieAnn] "food stamps" for $1...helpful!! 11:34 PM [scooter] for the family 11:34 PM [scooter] Rumor -- Correct 11:35 PM [scooter] Absolutely --- 11:35 PM [Capital stack] God bless them 11:35 PM [unitedrich] Capital stack absolutely! 11:35 PM [scooter] sherree correct -- 11:35 PM [CarrieAnn] Scooter how do you confirm that? I am googling like mad but not really sure where to look. 11:36 PM [scooter] CarrieAnn I'll start at Nahrain -- then IAU -- Ministry of Planning and finance 11:36 PM [unitedrich] Scooter The smart card is unprecedented in arab countries, so we really don't have a history of anything like this before-- correct? 11:37 PM [scooter] HOLD ON 11:37 PM [scooter] I did not say the rate is going to be $5 11:37 PM [scooter] just clarifying 0--- TY 11:38 PM [scooter] average joe average joe TY for the post 11:38 PM [scooter] Good stuff 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thankudad Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Thank you for the post. Very inspirational, and exciting. God bless you all for all you do for the rest of us. good night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailorDave Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 PVS Thanks for catching Scooter's discussion tonight and putting a 'straight line' version of it here so people can see just exactly what Scooter said. The take-away was he DID SAY what he was discussing WAS A RUMOR and even more importantly he DID NOT say $5.00 for the rate. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JugDawg1 Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Thanks Valley girl. At this time, hearing from Scoot and the others of his calibre is on one hand raising the hopeful enthusiasm and on the other calming the doubts and fears. So again thank PVS and thanks to Scooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unitedrich Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Thanks PVS, I will have to say that the interruptions to him tonight were enormous. I think many of us miss "modding the room" so that he or anyone else can gather their thoughts and inform everybody without being accosted about dates and rates, etc., etc., 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlablum Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Question for Scooter, Is this what you are looking for when you are talking about the 250 dinars per person? It was posted 11/17/2009 Thanks!! Carla Internal stresses of Parliament seeking to cover salaries for the people of Iraq for the coming months BAGHDAD - morning Safaa net debt admitted Minister of Trade and agency that the mechanism of the distribution of the ration card items where current injustice and prejudice, while the Interior Ministry is seeking to cover salaries for the Sons of Iraq (the Awakening) for the coming months. According to a statement issued by the Finance Committee in the House of Representatives received "morning," a copy of, the Deputy Chairman of the Committee Alaa al-Sadoun has met with Minister of Trade and agency and the delegation accompanying him at the headquarters of the Commission. The talks focused on the ration card and the customizations needed to finance the purchase of its terms to the end of the year and the reasons inadequate allocations within the budget allocated to the Federal Assembly for 2009. The net that "the additional funds required and needed by the ministry to repay some of their financial obligations to suppliers of traders and farmers, either the cause of inadequate budget allocations within the federal ministry is attributable to non-calculated according to the accounts of a practical and rational take into account the fact, "indicating that" the Department is distributing the ration card items through 67 thousand to about 5,6 Under-million households and a total of up to 31 million at a nominal price not exceeding 250 dinars per person, while the true cost of the per capita share of 27 thousand dinars, " , adding "It is a simple calculation and a comparison with the allocations earmarked within the Federal budget, amounting to 4,2 billion dollars that could be know the value of the shortfall." The Minister of Trade: "The support purchase prices of wheat from local farmers, more than twice the price in the Arab market led some to be imported from neighboring countries and delivered to the ministry's storage as a local production, although everyone knew that the importation of grain from abroad, the state limits, but allows some leniency to cross the border without taking into account the negative effects that would have on the country's economy and the status of agriculture in it. "and a question for Deputy Mona earthquake on the phenomenon of rampant corruption in the ministry, noted the net as "the phenomenon has penetrated throughout the body structure of the state due to the repercussions of the Covenant and the residue of bygone," stressing the duty to implement strict measures to deter spoilers in the Ministry and with the help of philanthropists and owners of white hands of the sons of our people. " and blocked the card for higher income people pointed out that this "a ministry may begin applying over the next year, either this year The card will include all the remaining months of it." and the question on the MP Alaa al-Sadoun voices to cancel the ration card system, between the "With retained on this system to support the needy and low-income, but only reduce its vocabulary, and improve the quality and restrict who actually need, "the headquarters said:" The mechanism of the present distribution of the items of the ration card which injustice and prejudice. "In the meantime, the Finance Committee discussed with the parliamentary delegation from the Ministry of the Interior Problem salaries (100) is an element of the Sons of Iraq (the Awakening). The Delegation explained that the continuation of exchange rate mechanism, the salaries of the Sons of Iraq who earn a monthly salary of 298 thousand dinars to associate, through (the disarmament and integration of militias) of the Secretariat of the Council of Ministers , noting that "the shortfall was caused by reduction of the total federal budget for the year 2009 at the request of the House of Representatives, and to change the number of members (the Awakening) by the circumstances." The Delegation of the Ministry: "We've got a promise from the Ministry of Finance monitors financial allocations for salaries within the federal public budget for the year 2010 to cover the deficit that occurred in 2009," adding that "To move to pay benefits and the sons of Iraq's few remaining months of the year was the inclusion of an amount of ( 298) billion dinars in the supplementary budget for the year 2009 General. For its part, expressed Alaa al-Sadoun of "appreciation of the members of the Deputies of the large role that was exercised by the (Awakening) through their support of terrorism in what was a clear impact in reducing it," emphasizing the concern of the Finance Committee that "all assume his right." With regard to the amount of money to be added to the Police Department allocations and justification for the protection of oil, the delegation of the Ministry of the Interior that "the Directorate of protecting oil installations and one of the districts (60) of the Ministry of the Interior, and the number of affiliates around 32 thousand a member, and the amount of (11 ) billion dinars the required monitoring of the Directorate within the supplementary budget is to cover the expenses of some supplies and equipment provided by the Ministry of Oil. " The Delegation declared that the existence of the ministerial appointment of 965 families of the martyrs of the contract monthly salary of $ 300 thousand dinars, and will be implemented after the completion of the procedures and the provision of financial allocations for the adoption of the supplementary budget for the federal public in 2009. Saadoun and promised that the committee will consider recommendations for inclusion in its report on the supplementary budget public Federal year 2009. http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.alsabaah.com 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tampa1000 Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Thanks, you gotta love it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlablum Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Posted 11/27/2009 Chairman of the Integrity Committee in the Maysan provincial council announced the elimination of double salaries in the Social Welfare Department Maysan - Sami Griller Economy Chairman of the Integrity Committee in the Maysan provincial council announced the elimination of double salaries in the Social Welfare Department Maysan - Sami Griller The head of the Integrity Committee in the provincial council in Maysan province that suffers from the problem of distributing the ration card has been hailed Amaajtha the ration card was provided to citizens at a reasonable price (250) dinars, and took a pledge from all the agents and follow up on the ground The Muheisen Rahim Mohammad, head of the Integrity Commission that we spent on the problem of dual salaries up to (300) will pay double the Commission, in cooperation with the Social Welfare Department to grant the salary of the widows, divorcees and sustained in our work we strive to reach the desired goal http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=ar&u=http://nahrain.com/news.php%3Freadmore%3D103486&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dnahrain%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3D6EN%26sa%3DG&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhhT6lpogcDkQ8G7i6uGZqkAqhy4EQ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRich Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Thanks PVS, I will have to say that the interruptions to him tonight were enormous. I think many of us miss "modding the room" so that he or anyone else can gather their thoughts and inform everybody without being accosted about dates and rates, etc., etc., I agree about modding the room. Somebody suggested an IQ test before we allow chatters into the room. Maybe we should also check for a full moon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchell99 Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 (edited) I agree about modding the room. Somebody suggested an IQ test before we allow chatters into the room. Maybe we should also check for a full moon. [/ uote] I, too vote for modding the room. Tonight was a disgrace! I was shocked and embarrassed. (Not the first night its been like this though when Scooter has been on.) Mod!!! Mod!!! Mod!!! Edited October 12, 2010 by winchell99 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 PVS, Thanks for the post ---- that one was interesting ---- your clean up work on this material is most appreciative!!!! Now to Carla Blum: Thank You for the assist!!! This is outstanding stuff and can be put to use immediately with the Ministry of Commerce data I pull down tonight. ---- I'm serious, this is good stuff! Thanks again you two! Best, Scooter Question for Scooter, Is this what you are looking for when you are talking about the 250 dinars per person? It was posted 11/17/2009 Thanks!! Carla Internal stresses of Parliament seeking to cover salaries for the people of Iraq for the coming months BAGHDAD - morning Safaa net debt admitted Minister of Trade and agency that the mechanism of the distribution of the ration card items where current injustice and prejudice, while the Interior Ministry is seeking to cover salaries for the Sons of Iraq (the Awakening) for the coming months. According to a statement issued by the Finance Committee in the House of Representatives received "morning," a copy of, the Deputy Chairman of the Committee Alaa al-Sadoun has met with Minister of Trade and agency and the delegation accompanying him at the headquarters of the Commission. The talks focused on the ration card and the customizations needed to finance the purchase of its terms to the end of the year and the reasons inadequate allocations within the budget allocated to the Federal Assembly for 2009. The net that "the additional funds required and needed by the ministry to repay some of their financial obligations to suppliers of traders and farmers, either the cause of inadequate budget allocations within the federal ministry is attributable to non-calculated according to the accounts of a practical and rational take into account the fact, "indicating that" the Department is distributing the ration card items through 67 thousand to about 5,6 Under-million households and a total of up to 31 million at a nominal price not exceeding 250 dinars per person, while the true cost of the per capita share of 27 thousand dinars, " , adding "It is a simple calculation and a comparison with the allocations earmarked within the Federal budget, amounting to 4,2 billion dollars that could be know the value of the shortfall." The Minister of Trade: "The support purchase prices of wheat from local farmers, more than twice the price in the Arab market led some to be imported from neighboring countries and delivered to the ministry's storage as a local production, although everyone knew that the importation of grain from abroad, the state limits, but allows some leniency to cross the border without taking into account the negative effects that would have on the country's economy and the status of agriculture in it. "and a question for Deputy Mona earthquake on the phenomenon of rampant corruption in the ministry, noted the net as "the phenomenon has penetrated throughout the body structure of the state due to the repercussions of the Covenant and the residue of bygone," stressing the duty to implement strict measures to deter spoilers in the Ministry and with the help of philanthropists and owners of white hands of the sons of our people. " and blocked the card for higher income people pointed out that this "a ministry may begin applying over the next year, either this year The card will include all the remaining months of it." and the question on the MP Alaa al-Sadoun voices to cancel the ration card system, between the "With retained on this system to support the needy and low-income, but only reduce its vocabulary, and improve the quality and restrict who actually need, "the headquarters said:" The mechanism of the present distribution of the items of the ration card which injustice and prejudice. "In the meantime, the Finance Committee discussed with the parliamentary delegation from the Ministry of the Interior Problem salaries (100) is an element of the Sons of Iraq (the Awakening). The Delegation explained that the continuation of exchange rate mechanism, the salaries of the Sons of Iraq who earn a monthly salary of 298 thousand dinars to associate, through (the disarmament and integration of militias) of the Secretariat of the Council of Ministers , noting that "the shortfall was caused by reduction of the total federal budget for the year 2009 at the request of the House of Representatives, and to change the number of members (the Awakening) by the circumstances." The Delegation of the Ministry: "We've got a promise from the Ministry of Finance monitors financial allocations for salaries within the federal public budget for the year 2010 to cover the deficit that occurred in 2009," adding that "To move to pay benefits and the sons of Iraq's few remaining months of the year was the inclusion of an amount of ( 298) billion dinars in the supplementary budget for the year 2009 General. For its part, expressed Alaa al-Sadoun of "appreciation of the members of the Deputies of the large role that was exercised by the (Awakening) through their support of terrorism in what was a clear impact in reducing it," emphasizing the concern of the Finance Committee that "all assume his right." With regard to the amount of money to be added to the Police Department allocations and justification for the protection of oil, the delegation of the Ministry of the Interior that "the Directorate of protecting oil installations and one of the districts (60) of the Ministry of the Interior, and the number of affiliates around 32 thousand a member, and the amount of (11 ) billion dinars the required monitoring of the Directorate within the supplementary budget is to cover the expenses of some supplies and equipment provided by the Ministry of Oil. " The Delegation declared that the existence of the ministerial appointment of 965 families of the martyrs of the contract monthly salary of $ 300 thousand dinars, and will be implemented after the completion of the procedures and the provision of financial allocations for the adoption of the supplementary budget for the federal public in 2009. Saadoun and promised that the committee will consider recommendations for inclusion in its report on the supplementary budget public Federal year 2009. http://translate.goo...ww.alsabaah.com 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robo5288 Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Scooter: As you know, I am not shocked by what you are finding. And I appreciate this chat. Thanks for posting pvs. All is well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlym Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 I agree about modding the room. Somebody suggested an IQ test before we allow chatters into the room. Maybe we should also check for a full moon. LOL, that was me. My IQ is 145.(OOooooh, ain't that some happy horsesh*t!) But some days I would swear I'm not all there. Seriously, poor Scooter can't even get his fingers on the keyboard before he gets slammed with 20 questions, most of them the same ones over and over. He really is a saint and a total sweetheart. I'm all for the mods shutting everyone down. It would be nice if there was a way to run the questions through the mods and let them select which ones make it through. Well, hopefully we are almost at the end of this madness and the chat room won't be an issue much longer. Happy RVing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffsPlus Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 *just a note about moderating the room....if the room is moderated, only mods can type....Scooter would have to be a mod to be able to type in a moderated room. I don't think he wants that!! And in a moderated room all of the questions that people continue to type pop up on the moderators screen and mods frantically try to pass on ones they deem important...it is a nightmare and people get MAD because their question doesn't get asked. I really think the VERY BEST way for everybody to get information is to just let Scooter, (or anybody) talk about what he wants to talk about because likely, given some time, your question will get answered and we will all get to hear whatever the Speaker feels is important at the moment. It's also considerate to assume that Scooter is like everybody else & he sometimes he would just like to say "hi" to friends he's met online and may not be here to educate the masses. Go RV 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 PVS thanks for the edited vesion Thanks Scooter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMaker Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Thank you Scooter, Pleasant, and Carla for postings. And . . YES I'm just now uncrossing my eyes from last night. Luckily I have a high IQ! teehee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleasantvalleySunday Posted October 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 I agree about modding the room. Somebody suggested an IQ test before we allow chatters into the room. Maybe we should also check for a full moon. not able to "mod" the room anymore - besides, it shouldn't be necessary to mod if people just had the decency to sit on their hands while someone is giving up info 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegsue Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 *just a note about moderating the room....if the room is moderated, only mods can type....Scooter would have to be a mod to be able to type in a moderated room. I don't think he wants that!! And in a moderated room all of the questions that people continue to type pop up on the moderators screen and mods frantically try to pass on ones they deem important...it is a nightmare and people get MAD because their question doesn't get asked. I really think the VERY BEST way for everybody to get information is to just let Scooter, (or anybody) talk about what he wants to talk about because likely, given some time, your question will get answered and we will all get to hear whatever the Speaker feels is important at the moment. It's also considerate to assume that Scooter is like everybody else & he sometimes he would just like to say "hi" to friends he's met online and may not be here to educate the masses. Go RV Very well said girl! We all need down time to just chill and be with friends sometimes! And if he wants to share his knowledge, all the better for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRich Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 not able to "mod" the room anymore - besides, it shouldn't be necessary to mod if people just had the decency to sit on their hands while someone is giving up info Well PVS we tried telling people to be quiet and let Scooter explain the smart cards and they still acted like a bunch of ten year olds. Maybe a solution would be to give instructions on the banner so that when they enter the room they know that this is not a regular chat session, and they should avoid all discussion that doesn't pertain to the current topic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BtrFuture4All Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 I don't enter the chat rooms often because of all the confusion. I agree that when someone like Scooter is in the chat room that it would be nice if everyone would simply 'sit on their hands' and 'give him the floor (room)' and just let him type and give information... then when he is finished let him say so and then 'open the room' for questions that were not answered in his posting. This would be similar to how voice conferemce rooms handle information, i.e., the Mods block the phone lines of all except the main speakers until the speakers are finished, then they open up the phone lines for Q&A. Unfortunately I suppose the written chat rooms do not have that capbility. However, with upfront advance agreemen...and cooperation... these guidelines could still be followed. Just a suggestion. Again, thanks to Scooter for his research and what he brings to the table (room) and to those who help bring the specific comments of the chat for a post. All of you are very much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JugDawg1 Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 How about having a guru room. Let them say what they have to say and then answer questions as they come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socko Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 *just a note about moderating the room....if the room is moderated, only mods can type....Scooter would have to be a mod to be able to type in a moderated room. I don't think he wants that!! And in a moderated room all of the questions that people continue to type pop up on the moderators screen and mods frantically try to pass on ones they deem important...it is a nightmare and people get MAD because their question doesn't get asked. I really think the VERY BEST way for everybody to get information is to just let Scooter, (or anybody) talk about what he wants to talk about because likely, given some time, your question will get answered and we will all get to hear whatever the Speaker feels is important at the moment. It's also considerate to assume that Scooter is like everybody else & he sometimes he would just like to say "hi" to friends he's met online and may not be here to educate the masses. Go RV your right about that .. i;ve picked up alot of good info and like you said sooned or latter the same question will pop up.. sitting on the side lines is not so bad you can learn alot.. thanks to all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktlamm Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Thanks all of you for your info in all this. May God bless you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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