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A father opens a plastic bag: 'This is my son,' he says, killed by an Israeli shell


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Again, people please take the time to go and read this book and I think (if your eyes are opened) you will see why all this has happened, and why it is like it is. I truly believe God is in control of everything. Otherwise how would prophesy work if He wasn't? He knows what is going to happen, and sometimes lets His chosen ones know, ie: Daniel, Ezekiel , Isaiah, Jeremiah, Hosea, Joel, Amos, etc. Many prophesies these people wrote down have come true, others are for the future. This is God's plan (as hard as that is to believe He would "want" all this violence). Well, it's not that He "wants" it, it just has to be this way (for some reason - because of man's sin?). If you read this book I think you will have a better understanding. "The Struggle for the Birthright"

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/teachings/books/

 

Another good study would be starting at Acts 7:42-43

42 Then God turned and gave them up to worship the host of heaven, as it is written in the book of the Prophets: 'Did you offer Me slaughtered animals and sacrifices during forty years in the wilderness, O house of Israel? 43 You also took up the tabernacle of Moloch, And the star of your god Remphan, Images which you made to worship; And I will carry you away beyond Babylon.'

 

(v 42) Notice God did it He turned and gave them up, God did it. (v 43) research Moloch and Remphan. (just do an internet search on Remphan)

 

I Kings 10:14, I Kings 11:3-12

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2 Americans killed in fighting in Gaza Strip  1 hr agoBy TAMI ABDOLLAH of Associated Press

 

 

Two Americans who were soldiers for the Israel Defense Forces were killed in fighting in the Gaza Strip.

Stuart Steinberg confirmed the death of his son Max Steinberg, 24, to The Associated Press on Sunday. Steinberg, whose family lives in Southern California's San Fernando Valley, was a sharpshooter for the Golani Brigade. He was one of 13 Israeli soldiers and 65 Palestinians killed in fighting Sunday during the first major ground battle in two weeks of fighting between Israel and Hamas.

Earlier Sunday, the IDF said in a statement that Sgt. Nissim Sean Carmeli, 21, was killed in combat in the Gaza Strip. Carmeli was from South Padre Island, Texas, said Deputy Consul General of Israel to the Southwest Maya Kadosh. She said Carmeli moved to Israel four years ago and added that the consulate helped his family get a flight there Sunday.

Rabbi Asher Hecht of Chabad of the Rio Grande Valley, who is a longtime family friend, said Carmeli joined the Israeli army after finishing high school in Israel and was in the Golani Brigade. The IDF statement said Carmeli was from Ra'anana, Israel.

"He had great energy, yet had a kind and gentle soul," Hecht said. "It's been a very tough day for us," he added. "We lost a gem."

Carmeli was the youngest of three and has two sisters who currently live in Israel. He was "loved by his parents infinitely," Hecht said.

Steinberg was living in Beersheba, Israel. He attended Pierce College and El Camino Real High School in Southern California.

He visited Israel for the first time on a Birthright Israel trip with his younger brother and sister in June 2012, his father said. When he returned, he made an announcement to his parents that he was planning to return and join the IDF, Steinberg said. He made good on that promise less than six months later, making the move in December.

"He went back," Steinberg said. "He was completely dedicated and committed to serving the country of Israel. He was focused, he was clear in what the mission was, and he was dedicated to the work he needed to be doing."

On Sunday morning, the Steinbergs were visited by representatives from the Consulate General of Israel in Los Angeles. They broke the news of Max Steinberg's death.

Stuart Steinberg last spoke to his son at 4 a.m. Saturday California time, hours before his death. Max Steinberg called his father to tell him that his group had been injured when two of their tanks collided. They had to return to Israel for treatment at the hospital. Some soldiers had broken bones, and Max Steinberg had sprained his back, his father said.

"He called me up at 4 a.m. that morning and said he'd be returning to Gaza, back to combat, to be with his friends," Steinberg said.

Steinberg said the family is leaving on Monday for Israel, where their son will be buried. On Max Steinberg's Facebook page, hundreds of people liked a profile photo that appeared to be a selfie of him in uniform, armed, with his helmet on. Dozens gave their condolences.

Jay Sanderson, who heads The Jewish Federation of Greater Los Angeles, said in an email message to the community that "our thoughts are with his family and our community is committed to support them in any way they need - and to honor Max's memory."

The Jewish Federations of North America said in a statement that its "deepest sympathies" were with the families of 18 Israeli soldiers killed over the last two days. "Along with all of Israel, and the entire Jewish People, we mourn their loss as if they were our own," the statement said.

On Sunday night, the U.S. State Department confirmed the deaths of Steinberg and Carmeli. ___

Associated Press writer Ramit Plushnick-Masti contributed to this report from Houston. Rankin reported from Chicago.

 

http://news.msn.com/us/2-americans-killed-in-fighting-in-gaza-strip

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Yeah the "Israel Firsters" don't like the truth such as what this article shows brought out into the daylight.

 

You can give out all the rubies you want... won't stop the truth from being shouted out from the roof tops.

 

No doubt... most Americans will not help because of the years of propaganda they have been fed...

but they are NOT... end all... be all... anymore... nor is our guberment.

 

The rest of the world WILL step in and help. Thank God!!!

You are correct the armies of the world will descend on Israel and the world will lose.

But maybe your god is telling you a different story.

Maybe you should try reading the last book of The Bible. That battle and the ending have already been written.

 

You and the rest of the virus can keep believeing in your little fantasies but when reality sets in you and the virus will be some very unhappy campers.

 

Personally I believe that Israel ought to take this time to wipe hamas off the face of the earth.

Then lay so many mines that it would take the U.N. 100 years to clear them out

 

 

                       No Surrender No Retreat and No Compromise

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Umberto has raised a lot of awareness about what is going on over there... that's more than most here are doing.

 

Besides that... The "Idea" is to stop this senseless war... not add more guns to it.

 

I would think a grown man could speak for himself Mag.

 

Just saying

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You and the rest of the virus can keep believeing in your little fantasies but when reality sets in you and the virus will be some very unhappy campers.

 

 

                       No Surrender No Retreat and No Compromise

 

Virus???

 

 

I would think a grown man could speak for himself Mag.

 

Just saying

 

Course he can... I was speaking for myself.... being a grown woman and all. :)

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