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NEW LAW IN THE GAZETTE - APRIL 18, 2014:"Law on ratification of the Convention on the economic and trade agrmnt w/Iraq, N. Ireland & Great Britain"


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The machine, if you are in the industry you should know where it is but under the Rockies isn't it. I need to ask a few of the sources I got my info from but I believe it was Arkansas... Seriously I just can't remember. Again, you should know better. As for us drilling it, it is so much smarter for us to do what we are currently doing. Keep our oil on wrap and take the oil else where. If the world believes we are in lower supply it creates the ability to charge more. Incredible strategically.

I'm curious if you know how many miles a car can run on fuel? This has been known for a very long time by some engineers, but again if the technology were released the needed supply would be much lower.... Check into this and then you will understand a small portion of hat we are kept from knowing. You could just call it conspiracy theory but as an engineer like myself it is easy to find the truth. I am talking about some real facts which are easy for a guy like you to check out. Check out the movie gas hole on youtube. Oil/Gas is not running out and what is being done globally is sickening.

I also have an engineering degree and I am a commercial pilot etc. I wouldn't expect you to take my word for any of what I say but I do ask you to do due diligence when you can. Some times we open our eyes and it's blinding.

Wish you a great week,

Peace

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Maggie,

I'd love to go thru each question mark you put by my post. Were you one of the people,long ago,screaming zionists? I have a faint memory of that. Please correct me if I am wrong.

As for what we have to gain aside from oil in Iraq is both change in the M.E. For freedom for the people (real or imagined) as well as geographical positioning for the USA, Britain, etc...

Iran would love to see us fail because they hate Democracy and loosing power to the people. The success of Iraq and a democratic way of life is spreading. I am actually surprised at some of your questions. I thought it was a bit more obvious.

Now back to your zionistic conspiracy theory from past posts long ago. To me that shows a very big sign of a persons ignorance to the word Zionist. People will use anything to spread their desire to blame or hate. I am not sure if it is due to a lack of education or upbringing?

What I do believe is that if one isn't part of the solution or seeking reality beyond their emotional beliefs, their warped convictions or sense of reality become a part of the problem.

Peace Maggie and I hope we all are able to educate one another.

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Maggie,

How do you "SEE" these countries moving away from the Petro-Dollar in reality?

What do you think they will do?

How do you "SEE" this being implemented?

How do other countries profit from PROCESSING" these transactions?

I'm not saying you are wrong about a shift in currency reform and maybe even oil trade, but I am very curious what exactly you base this idea on?

Lastly, even if your system of democracy is riddle with corruption it is still better than what other countries have. Our officials both on a state and national level need a major house cleaning. Enough people need to open their eyes for this to happen IMHO.

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To be honest Imgesing, I have no Idea about any massive oil reserves in Arkansas ..... I'll ask around, My best friends older brother is pretty high up in BP he might know something, but if he does and its not supposed to be public knowledge I wont be posting confirmation of it here lol.

 

 

 

Ok read this, then my comment at the bottom .....

 

 

US to sell strategic oil reserves for first time in 24 years

Published March 13 2014

The Obama administration plans to sell 5 million barrels, or less than 1 percent of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, calling the move a test of the petrol distribution system. The last time this happened was in August 1990 before the first Gulf War.

“Due to the recent dramatic increase in domestic crude oil production, significant changes in the system have occurred -- including pipeline expansion, construction of new infrastructure, reversed flow of existing pipelines and increased use of domestic crude oil terminals,” William Gibbons, the US Energy Department spokesman said in a statement.

 

The government rejected a connection with the turmoil in Ukraine or other geopolitical events.

On Thursday the price of West Texas Intermediate (WTI) crude futures for April delivery fell by 2.3 percent on the New York Mercantile Exchange. It’s the biggest drop in two months.

 

WTI crude has a high sulfur content, similar to oil exported from Russia. The large sale might be a test of the US system’s readiness for a hiccup in Russian supply, analysts suggest.

 

“The timing of this makes it seem like a warning shot across the bow towards the Russians,” the Financial Times quotes Michael Wittner, the head of global oil research at Société Générale in New York.

 

The US Secretary of State John Kerry has warned about tough sanctions if Moscow does not draw back from its position over Crimea, in particular support of the region’s status referendum on March 16.

 

However former US State Department employee David Goldvin thinks the opposite. He considers that test sale is more directed at fighting volatility of supply from larger oil producers like Venezuela and Nigeria, and the long running question over Iran, and its nuclear ambitions.

 

Now to me all this sounds like Media posturing  ...... lets look at the numbers ..... The United States consumed a total of 6.87 billion barrels (18.83 million barrels per day) in 2011 and 7.0 billion barrels (19.18 million barrels per day) of refined petroleum products and biofuels in 2010." (Google). If 5m barrels is half a percent, then total reserves amount to about a billion barrels, or about two months' worth. Thus, in the big scheme of things, they could sell off the entire reserve and it would hardly matter.

 

Or is the US is selling their oil reserves, its an indication that its short of real currency.

 

 

 

 

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Machine,

Great work. It really makes me wonder what is going on based on what I have been led to believe. I really don't claim to know much about the big scheme of things because I really don't think we are suppose to. Yet, if the USA were so dependant on all these other countries in reality, why aren't we setting up more oil pumps ? I doubt if it were that critical the Eco argument would hold out. National interest and security should be a rivaling point.

I need to make a few calls and rehash the oil portion of my brain... lol. I simply seem a bit too busy to keep up with this like I used to. I sincerely appreciate your input. It seems to be backed with some substance.

Thanks again.

Before I leave I am curious if you remember when Bush jr. Opened up our oil reserves and the price for a gallon of gas was about 1.50 or so. That was a huge eye opener for me. I may be wrong but feel we are all being played on oil prices globally in a big way. That is why these big countries want a foot hold of it. I look forward to your posts.

Peace.

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Machine,

Great work. It really makes me wonder what is going on based on what I have been led to believe. I really don't claim to know much about the big scheme of things because I really don't think we are suppose to. Yet, if the USA were so dependant on all these other countries in reality, why aren't we setting up more oil pumps ? I doubt if it were that critical the Eco argument would hold out. National interest and security should be a rivaling point.

I need to make a few calls and rehash the oil portion of my brain... lol. I simply seem a bit too busy to keep up with this like I used to. I sincerely appreciate your input. It seems to be backed with some substance.

Thanks again.

Before I leave I am curious if you remember when Bush jr. Opened up our oil reserves and the price for a gallon of gas was about 1.50 or so. That was a huge eye opener for me. I may be wrong but feel we are all being played on oil prices globally in a big way. That is why these big countries want a foot hold of it. I look forward to your posts.

Peace.

 

 

you have it easy in the US ...... we pay 3 times for fuel what you do........ petrol in the UK is the equivalent of about $9.60 / gallon here (over 60% is taxes) ...... if the US was subjected to those prices it would cripple your counrty

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Ok you chose not to answer my questions regarding your first post...

 

but honestly your "factual" sounding opinions did leave me with a question to just about every statement you made.

 

Now I will do my best to briefly answer your questions best I can without writing a book.

 

Maggie,

How do you "SEE" these countries moving away from the Petro-Dollar in reality?

I suggest you read just a few of the articles right here on DV about current events in that area. Beautiful Dream brought in a doozie just a couple of days ago.

 

There are also sources to read in your browser too... just google  BRICS and it will provide you with plenty of reading material from any source you deem fit.

 

I can "SEE" it because I keep up on their progress... it is not very far away from them accomplishing their goals.

 

What do you think they will do?

It is not a question of what I "think" they will do... They are doing it.

 

How do you "SEE" this being implemented?

I have been following this for the last couple of years and they have been working on this for much longer than that... believe me.

Maybe you haven't been aware of  their desire to break free from the petro dollar for a very long time... but is is a strong enough desire that they have been working on setting up their own IMF, their own form of  WTO and Central Banking Systems to enable them to trade amongst themselves for oil and goods in their own choice of currencies or gold, becoming  independent of the US.

How do other countries profit from PROCESSING" these transactions?

What I said was " That is what Putin is addressing right now...

no more dependence on the US for that and there is a lot of money to be made from processing those transactions for other countries too."

I can see where that confused you... maybe that  wasn't clear... Russia wants to provide this processing service FOR other countries...

Putin got caught with the possibility of Visa and MasterCard transactions being cut off in Russia by US Card Processing Co's should further sanctions be placed against Russia. He is setting up the ability to process these transactions in Russia and would then be able to offer these services to other countries too. There are of course fees involved with each transaction and can be quite a profitable venture for Russia.

I'm not saying you are wrong about a shift in currency reform and maybe even oil trade, but I am very curious what exactly you base this idea on?

I Can Read.

Lastly, even if your system of democracy is riddle with corruption it is still better than what other countries have.

"your system"??? ahemmm this is not my system... We are fortunate in many ways... While I do NOT support nor endorse in any way what our guberment does under the false guise of bringing in "Democracy" by overthrowing other countries, leaving them in shambles and pillaging the spoils. Iraq, Libya, Syria, South America...what a mess and the list goes on and on. I despise what they are doing under our name.

 

Our officials both on a state and national level need a major house cleaning.

No Kidding???

 

Enough people need to open their eyes for this to happen IMHO.

Then open your eyes and read... You really should get more current about the BRICS and I would suggest getting up to speed on the TPP issues ahead of us too. I can't read for you.

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Connections between recent CoM Announcement pertaining to UNAMI and Trade Agreements posted in the Gazette:

NEW LAW IN THE GAZETTE - UPLOAD DATE OF APRIL 18, 2014: "Law on ratification of the Convention on the economic and trade cooperation and technical cooperation between the Government of the Republic of Iraq and the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (21) of 2012"

UPLOADED TO GAZETTE APRIL 17, 2014:

"Law on ratification of the Convention on the encouragement and reciprocal protection of investment environment and Protocol between the Government of the Republic of Iraq and the Government of the Federal Republic of Germany (60) 2012"

GAZETTE LINK

THE UPLOADING OF THESE TRADE AGREEMENTS MAY NOT INDICATE A HUGE RELATIONSHIP REGARDING THE LIQUIDITY EVENT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, BUT, IMO, THEY ARE A GOOD SIGN - WE STILL NEED MORE REGULATORY ECONOMIC, BANKING AND INVESTMENT LAWS.

CoM Site: Authorize the Secretary of State the authority to negotiate and sign a draft agreement regulating the activities of the UN Mission for Assistance to Iraq

Cabinet decided to authorize the Secretary of State the authority to negotiate and sign a draft agreement regulating the activities of the UN mission to provide assistance to Iraq between the Government of the Republic of Iraq and the United Nations after the addition of amendments scheduled to Articles II and VII of Alagh in line with the legal opinion of the State Council, according to the provisions of Article ( 80 / item VI) of the Constitution.

came in resolution No. (188) for the year 2014 by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to prepare a document authorization required on behalf of the Government of the Republic of Iraq to Mr. Foreign Minister, according to the contexts approved and submitted to the General Secretariat of the Council of Ministers in order to obtain the signature of the President of the Council of Ministers.

came Maardth decision based on the Ministry of Foreign Affairs / Legal Department of the regular session of the fifth session held on the fifteenth of April.

***This article requires back up research of the UNAMI mandate, however, below please find the constitutional references from the article and also a list from the UN site containing which areas the UNAMI mandate covers:

From the Iraqi Constitution - outlining the topics of discussion from the CoM article:

Article (80):

The cabinet shall exercise the following powers:

First, the planning and implementation of State policy, plans, and oversee the work of the ministries, and non-related Ministry.

Second: proposing draft laws.

Third: to issue the regulations, instructions and decisions to implement the laws.

IV. preparation of a draft budget and final account and development plans.

Fifth: recommending to the House of representatives, approved the appointment of undersecretaries, ambassadors and special grades, and Army Chief of staff and his associates, who served as Task Force Commander, and the head of the national intelligence service, heads of the security services.

Sixth: to negotiate treaties and international conventions, signed or authorized by.

(As the article references a "VII", there's no "VII" listed within this section of the constitution, so they're talking about sections II and VII of the UNAMI mandate) - See below:

Here's further information from the UNAMI documents/UN site:

A quote from the UNAMI mandate; Items II and VII referenced within the CoM article above:

2. Decides further that the Special Representative of the Secretary-General and UNAMI, at the request of the Government of Iraq, and taking into account the letter from the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Iraq to the Secretary-General (S/2013/430, annex), shall continue to pursue their mandate as stipulated in resolution 2061 (2012); and recalls the provisions of resolution 2107 (2013);

7. Decides to remain seized of the matter.

LINK TO UNAMI MANDATE INFORMATION FROM THE CORRESPONDING UN SITE

**So, IF Maliki signs, this, I believe, is stating that they are giving Zebari permission to activate the sections of the UNAMI mandate referring to "Sixth: to negotiate treaties and international conventions, signed or authorized by." THE FACT THAT THESE TRADE AGREEMENTS ARE BEING UPLOADED TO THE GAZETTE, IMO, INDICATE THE INTENTION TO PERHAPS SOON ACT ON THESE TRADE AGREEMENTS. WITH THAT SAID, THERE ARE TRADE AGREEMENTS WHICH HAVE BEEN UPLOADED TO THE GAZETTE IN THE PAST THAT HAVE NOT BEEN IMPLEMENTED, BUT PERHAPS THIS PROPOSAL BY THE COM TO ASSIGN OFFICIAL DUTIES TO ZEBARI TO ENACT INTERNATIONAL CONVENTIONS, MAY WELL BE THE PROVERBIAL HORSE AT THE STARTING GATE. ALSO, LET'S NOT FORGET THAT THE COM CAME OUT A COUPLE/FEW MONTHS AGO STATING THAT ALL CONTRACTS ARE TO BE PAID (OUT) SOLELY IN IQD

Here's what the UNAMI mandate governs:

"UNAMI mandate

Through its resolution 2061, adopted on 25 July 2012, the Security Council extended the mandate of UNAMI until 31 July 2013. The Mission is mandated “as circumstances permit” and “at the request of the Government of Iraq”

to: Advise support and assist the Government of Iraq in:

advancing their inclusive, political dialogue and national reconciliation;

development of processes for holding elections and referenda;

constitutional review and the implementation of constitutional provisions; - I HAVE TO WONDER IF THIS ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE COM HAS OCCURRED IN PART BECAUSE MALIKI WANTS TO PUSH THROUGH THE BUDGET AS IS, ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION.

development of processes acceptable to the Government of Iraq to resolve disputed internal boundaries;

facilitating regional dialogue, including on issues of border security, energy, and refugees;

planning, funding and implementing reintegration programmes for former members of illegal armed groups;

initial planning for the conduct of a comprehensive census;

Promote, support, and facilitate, in coordination with the Government of Iraq:

The coordination and delivery of humanitarian assistance and the safe, orderly, and voluntary return, as appropriate;

The implementation of the International Compact with Iraq, including coordination with donors and international financial institutions;

The coordination and implementation of programmes to improve Iraq’s capacity to provide essential services for its people and continue active donor coordination of critical reconstruction and assistance programmes through the International Reconstruction Fund Facility for Iraq (IRFFI);

Economic reform, capacity-building and the conditions for sustainable development, including through coordination with national and regional organizations and, as appropriate, civil society, donors, and international financial institutions;

The development of effective civil, social and essential services, including through training and conferences in Iraq

when possible (**WE'VE SEEN NEWS FROM THE COM THAT THESE TRAINING CONFERENCES HAVE BEEN GOING ON);

The contributions of United Nations agencies, funds, and programmes to the objectives outlined in this resolution under a unified leadership of the Secretary-General through his Special Representative for Iraq;

And also promote the protection of human rights and judicial and legal reform in order to strengthen the rule of law in Iraq;"

“as circumstances permit” and “at the request of the Government of Iraq”

By presenting this to Maliki/Head of the CoM - Iraq is requesting this.

 

Sorry TBomb didn't mean to get sidetracked.

 

You Are The Greatest For Bringing This In... Adding Your Research And Comments Is Very Helpful! Appreciate You For doing That!

 

I think this being put into law and published in the Gazette is certainly progress for them... I hope it helps them a lot going forward.

 

I have to admit... I am still taking in what this all means.... but I will read it again to see if that helps me grasp more of it.

 

Thank You For All Your Hard Work And Everything You Do For Us. :)

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We don't have to fear what seems obvious. Putin and China want us and do need us, they are spreading their arms for some elbo room. The USA is a global entrenched country and we are rooting deeper and deeper into the world. We have the largest reserve of OIL on this planet in the USA. We are technically the most advanced and on finding the oil fields in the world too. Do you think this is a threat to the other global giants? Heck Yes! We are forcing democracy down everyone's throats. This pulls out a foundation from under many powerful countries long known rulers in both government or dictatorships.

So, even if we have the backing of other countries we are not slowing down in our goals. These goals are not necessarily yours or mine, but those large companies and powerful people hiding behind our elected and lobbied officials. These people are blind to the affects of our beautiful countries global reach. We are not liked by many people or countries not as a people but our government.

Haven't we done a lot for the other countries on this globe? YES! Even the French don't like us and we saved their butts.

Russia is just showing us they can flex. Yet they need us. Putin is no dummy and he is showing us he doesn't fear us. I personally don't blame him. I don't like what I see but what should he do? He sees anti Russsian sentiment and he is going to do his best to lay fear into those willing to revolt. If not he will seem weak and he has a lot more to lose.

Iran is in big trouble and you bet Russia will be in bed with them all it can. If not we take one more in that region! Democracy isn't cheap.

This and everything in IRAQ is so important to our nations goals of spreading our reach. This is a big reason I bet Iraq will do,very well !

It has to or we lose on many fronts. The more we march in using the word democracy and freedom... The more we break down and build up,with success, the more strength and footing we hold on a global scale. This isn't about us though. My friends this is a plan alright. Those pulling the strings are winning and will continue to do so for a long time...

Peace and excuse my little rant. Look past the obvious and think on a larger scale....

Go IRAQ!

Iran is in big trouble and you bet Russia will be in bed with them all it can. If not we take one more in that region! Democracy isn't cheap.

 

Please excuse my little rant? You talk as if this is a chess game on your coffee table. We are just moving pawns in the global game, right?

 

Then talk to the boys who come back from the oil wars with their legs blown off. Talk to the wives who have a crazy husband returned with PTSD who cannot take care of his little daughter anymore, and then kills himself.

 

If you would like to continue the American Empire cause you think it would be good business...

 

Please send your children there to die. Don't vote to send mine.

 

Sorry to be so hard here, but this is what it is really about. So when we talk wars of choice, we know what we are really saying.

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Ok you chose not to answer my questions regarding your first post...

 

but honestly your "factual" sounding opinions did leave me with a question to just about every statement you made.

 

Now I will do my best to briefly answer your questions best I can without writing a book.

Maggie for years I have put up with you sarcastic ways of addressing specific people you have a hard on for. I don't expect you to read for me. Maybe I should go back and dig up your antisemetic past posts. I see you haven't addressed the Zionist movement you had in the past. We can go head to head but I rather not waste my time. We all have our views. Some of your views are dead on with what I have chosen to believe, yet when you went into that Zionist rage a while back it showed me what your true colors were. So, if you question just about every statement I make or made, in that respect we are on an equal ground with one another.

AMERICALNC, I don't agree with what our government does one bit! If this is what you got from anything I say then you are wrong and I am sorry if I misrepresented myself. I see this much like some of the others here, in that there are powerful people running our political and economic system. They pull on puppet strings and are obscure. It is a very scary thing. I know it isn't some Zionist movement as some antisemetic and uneducated people,would suggest. In fact the wealthiest people in the world are not even Jewish. People will believe what they want to though regardless of facts. If the facts don't match their position they will make up things to fit what their emotions desire.

I also don't believe in all doom and gloom. We are lucky to live in the USA. It is my strong view that those in political offices should be held to full disclosure (except where national security is involved). They work for us and are paid by us, they should have to answer to us! Yet, lining their pockets thru deals using our money has crippled and depressed this countries economy, ecology etc.

Lastly, I know I am always on a learning curve. I have my opinions based on facts and some is speculation. I like to learn and am open to that. I just have little patience for ignorance and rudeness. I have to put up with that in work but not on my down time....

As Maggie would say.... My carrot, Go Dinar! I hope we all fair well and soon.

I strongly suggest that when we choose to read posts we consider the source.

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Iran is in big trouble and you bet Russia will be in bed with them all it can. If not we take one more in that region! Democracy isn't cheap.

 

Please excuse my little rant? You talk as if this is a chess game on your coffee table. We are just moving pawns in the global game, right?

 

Then talk to the boys who come back from the oil wars with their legs blown off. Talk to the wives who have a crazy husband returned with PTSD who cannot take care of his little daughter anymore, and then kills himself.

 

If you would like to continue the American Empire cause you think it would be good business...

 

Please send your children there to die. Don't vote to send mine.

 

Sorry to be so hard here, but this is what it is really about. So when we talk wars of choice, we know what we are really saying.

 

"Iran is in big trouble and you bet Russia will be in bed with them all it can. If not we take one more in that region! Democracy isn't cheap."

 

Exactly the line that stood out to me AmericaInc... your response nailed it!!!

 

 

 

Imgessing it is clear you can't stick to the questions I asked without a great deal of discomfort... so you try to discredit me.

 

If all you have in response to my valid questions are insults and unfounded accusations ("antisemitic" BS) ... give it up.

What I have said in the past about the Israeli guberment... I still stand by today... I don't like our gubement any better.

 

Does not mean I hold Jews or Christians accountable or blame them in any way for what these evil people do.

What those in power are doing has nothing to do with religion.

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Just a thought I wonder if this has anything to do with providing  oil and gas to europe and the uk due to sanctions being placed with Russia. If thats the case and iraq is going to sell to europe and the uk surely "International Tradable Currency".

It may, DB, because the UNAMI mandate states it governs financial institutions, regulations, over seeing the implementation of everything financial as well (well as for as helping Iraq develop those policies and laws).  

 

My other concern is that perhaps because we're seeing all of these "the parliament HAS to approve the budget" articles, I think M MAY want to use the UNAMI mandate to pass the budget, according to the requirement within the constitution that the budget has to pass before the seating of the new govt.

I want to say that I am by no means an economic analyst..in fact, this is the primary area I'm weakest in, but I've read that perhaps because Putin wants to pull away from the IMF and align with China re currency/issues that the petrodollar may be eventually going away. Just what I've read.

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"Iran is in big trouble and you bet Russia will be in bed with them all it can. If not we take one more in that region! Democracy isn't cheap.[/size]"

 

Exactly the line that stood out to me AmericaInc... your response nailed it!!!

 

 

 

Imgessing it is clear you can't stick to the questions I asked without a great deal of discomfort... so you try to discredit me.

 

If all you have in response to my valid questions are insults and unfounded accusations ("antisemitic" BS) ... give it up.

What I have said in the past about the Israeli guberment... I still stand by today... I don't like our gubement any better.

 

Does not mean I hold Jews or Christians accountable or blame them in any way for what these evil people do.

What those in power are doing has nothing to do with religion.

Israel had nothing to do with Zionistic rants. Maybe I need to go back and dig up past posts...

This was in regards to a Zionist movement or group. Israel is a country and the government are not referred to as Zionists. Zionists as you seem educated to know were a group set up to help form an Israeli state in the early 1900's. As for me answering questions, I did that. Some of the things I have stated seemed obvious but I did restate them for your sake. If I were not so busy I'd be more than happy to exchange ideas and information with you. It seems in the last few years you've had more luxury of staying on this site than I have. Some of the information you add is valuable.

Would you care to elaborate on your Zionist or on your Israeli sentiment. What exactly is it that bothers you about the country of Israel? Maybe you have some ideas abou the people who run the country of Israel? I'm just curious about how you see things? Do you still feel that the Jews or zionists are controlling the currency in the world?

Thanks...

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Would you care to elaborate on your Zionist or on your Israeli sentiment. What exactly is it that bothers you about the country of Israel? Maybe you have some ideas abou the people who run the country of Israel? I'm just curious about how you see things? Do you still feel that the Jews or zionists are controlling the currency in the world?

Thanks...

 

 Out of respect to TBomb and her hard work here... why don't you start a new thread if you want to carry on about Israel.

 

 

It may, DB, because the UNAMI mandate states it governs financial institutions, regulations, over seeing the implementation of everything financial as well (well as for as helping Iraq develop those policies and laws).  

 

My other concern is that perhaps because we're seeing all of these "the parliament HAS to approve the budget" articles, I think M MAY want to use the UNAMI mandate to pass the budget, according to the requirement within the constitution that the budget has to pass before the seating of the new govt.

I want to say that I am by no means an economic analyst..in fact, this is the primary area I'm weakest in, but I've read that perhaps because Putin wants to pull away from the IMF and align with China re currency/issues that the petrodollar may be eventually going away. Just what I've read.

 

Out of +'s... Again Thank You For Your Insights On This TBomb.

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And I am the one avoiding the questions?

Maggie don't you recall when that Texas man was talking about the Jews / zionists running the world ? I quickly confronted him on his conspiracy theories and you were siding with him. You do recall this, right?

This is when you and I got a nice introduction and you at times try to discredit me ever since. So, this is a point you obviously don't need to discuss but I thought it relevant in discerning how one thinks.

Peace all.... Again consider the source of whatever you read.

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those of you who don't know my years here pre Maggie... Read the above and it might shead light. Below she tries to discredit each sentence of mine. She has shown me a while back that she is a racist and antisemite, based on her words. This came about as she backed a member who was thrown off the site for his rants about Jews and Zionism.

I know many of you are seeking answers and read news and try to support one another on this ride we are on. I am educated and not prejudice except for ignorant uneducated persons who try to spread hate.

I have every now and then come to read more and educate myself. Most here are very kind and educated. I know money brings out the best and worst in people. I wish you all the best and look forward to what I can learn by this who use knowledge over emotions and kindness over hate.

Peace....

((( Maggie's repost ))). If any of you feel I should answer her questions after my post please let me know... I think that it takes little knowledge to know the answers. i.e. Iran sending both people and armament to support the Hezbola and terrorists, etc...

Maggie, you are right about the installation of puppets. Even our president is one. Agreed

Which was partially my point... Yet, as NY Kevin said we shouldn't sit around either. What is it you think we should be doing?

I still feel progress is being made for whatever goals are the aim. Oil is definitely but one purpose and I seriously don't think it is that in of it self. So what do you think the "goals" are? What is the final "aim"? Why do we want control of the the Middle East?

Again the USA is sitting on the largest oil reserve in the world. If that is true then why aren't we using our own oil? Or did you mean ME oil?

If you meant US oil then please see Machine's post above...

Still this system or crazy form of government in Iraq is very strategic and important to succeed for the USA in that region. Not necessarily... the control of the oil is what is very important for the US guberment/contractors success... just as long as the puppets behave.

This is why there are efforts to destroy what is in place. Iran would love to see Iraq fail. What efforts are you referring to? Why would "Iran love to see Iraq fail"?

Iraq will do very well and it is doing well. Really? Maybe on paper... certainly not what I gather from reading about the extreme poverty and sectarian strife (daily bombings).

We just have to stay patient and watch. I thought you said we "shouldn't sit around"? Which is it?

My main point in my post was that for what has transpired in Iraq since we invaded them has been quick moving in terms of reform. Gotta disagree with you there.

In terms of oil drilling policies and sales... Yes. If you mean government reforms for the good of the Iraqi people... not so much.

I hope our investment pays off soon... Is that a carrot I see?

Now you said they don't care about their own people... No what I was clearly said was the US and Britain don't care about those people. Sorry you misunderstood.

Do you think our government cares about us? No

If so I have many examples to send your way to prove other wise... Not Necessary

Welcome to democracy. What In The Heck Are You Talking About? What Democracy???

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The machine, if you are in the industry you should know where it is but under the Rockies isn't it. I need to ask a few of the sources I got my info from but I believe it was Arkansas... Seriously I just can't remember. Again, you should know better. As for us drilling it, it is so much smarter for us to do what we are currently doing. Keep our oil on wrap and take the oil else where. If the world believes we are in lower supply it creates the ability to charge more. Incredible strategically.

I'm curious if you know how many miles a car can run on fuel? This has been known for a very long time by some engineers, but again if the technology were released the needed supply would be much lower.... Check into this and then you will understand a small portion of hat wke are kept from knowing. You could just call it conspiracy theory but as an engineer like myself it is easy to find the truth. I am talking about some real facts which are easy for a guy like you to check out. Check out the movie gas hole on youtube. Oil/Gas is not running out and what is being done globally is sickening.

I also have an engineering degree and I am a commercial pilot etc. I wouldn't expect you to take my word for any of what I say but I do ask you to do due diligence when you can. Some times we open our eyes and it's blinding.

Wish you a great week,

Peace

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The machine, if you are in the industry you should know where it is but under the Rockies isn't it. I need to ask a few of the sources I got my info from but I believe it was Arkansas... Seriously I just can't remember. Again, you should know better. As for us drilling it, it is so much smarter for us to do what we are currently doing. Keep our oil on wrap and take the oil else where. If the world believes we are in lower supply it creates the ability to charge more. Incredible strategically.

I'm curious if you know how many miles a car can run on fuel? This has been known for a very long time by some engineers, but again if the technology were released the needed supply would be much lower.... Check into this and then you will understand a small portion of hat we are kept from knowing. You could just call it conspiracy theory but as an engineer like myself it is easy to find the truth. I am talking about some real facts which are easy for a guy like you to check out. Check out the movie gas hole on youtube. Oil/Gas is not running out and what is being done globally is sickening.

I also have an engineering degree and I am a commercial pilot etc. I wouldn't expect you to take my word for any of what I say but I do ask you to do due diligence when you can. Some times we open our eyes and it's blinding.

Wish you a great week,

Peace

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Tomb, I mean no disrespect to you at all. I hope you understand that. I don't spend much time in this site due to work and some people who in my view make it less enjoyable for me. Please excuse my little rants now and then. Have a good day and week.

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imgesing - no worries at all. i really wasn't directing my comment at any one person in this thread. i respect your views and thank you for your insights. 

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What I have never understood is why no president has made an earnest effort to get enough of our own oil out of our ground so we can use it ourselves instead of our country being so tied into other countries that seem not to wish us well.  We have the oil. We have the technology. We have the people who need the jobs. We have the businesses and citizens who could use a break on gas prices. And if our prices were fair, we could even have foreign customers.  I realize we need to consider other countries that need our petro dollars, but still . . .  they have not always been grateful for our consistency and patronage. And we owe it to our own citizens to do what is best for ourselves first.  They do.

 

Obama wouldn't consider this, of course, and there are many fools out there who think we would be destroying the rangeland, but that can be handled scientifically these days.  Besides, if Harry Reid gets his way, we will have to eventually and bit by bit turn over most of our free range lands to the Chinese to build "profitable" solar plants. (Since when has one of those been profitable except to the politicians who make money for their next election coffers???).   (Just for what it's worth, I literally detest that little, ugly, sniveling cheat who is trying to take land that doesn't belong to him and give it to the Chinese in order to line his own pockets and those of his son. Good grief!! What have we elected into office these days??? But I'm very proud of the Oath Keepers, the Sheriffs, and the regular cowboys who have shown up to support the Bundy family. They make me proud [again] to be an American ). Sheriffs are the only law enforcement officers who are elected by the people they serve.  So they never forget the word "serve," while that word is sort of lost in the Obama shuffle from the White House on down through our Federal government. 

 

Oops!! I had a runaway typewriter, and I just got it back in control.  Sorry for my "free-range" thinking/typing here. lol

To Machine-- We're still Americans. We will adjust to a new economy where we make our own items, and we will learn to deal with it. What people forget is that we first endured many years of cheap junk China used to send to us (although it has improved tremendously in the last several years), but as Americans, we are certainly creative enough to make our own cheap stuff. lol What we have to do above all is get control of our own dollar again. It will involve  some huge changes in how we do things, but again, we are Americans, and we can do that, too.

you are missing two crucial pieces of info -

 

we use too much oil. So we take it from wherever we can get it at the right price.

 

secondly, Americans don't want drilling all over their land. We live here. So do animals.

 

Why did our gov't (the Bush admn. in particular) choose to pay such a high price for ME oil? 

Namely the lives of our sons...

So we would have reserves of more oil in the future...because we use so much.

Hope that helps.

 

You may return to Obama bashing now...

I once heard Democracy was to use others resources first and save ours, strategically smart move

unless you die fighting for those resources

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