makecents Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Threads here have been locked presumably as things were getting too personal or heated, though there was no final posting from the mod or admin doing the locking as to the details of their decision (which also seems bad to me). I agree that debate should not be allowed to get to this point since it just nullifies the whole point of having the debate in the first place. But when this happens why is it that posters are not warned, reprimanded, etc instead of locking the thread. Locking the thread does not point out where people were violating board policy or getting too personal etc so it doesn't (as I see it anyway) change anyone's behavior, but just stifles debate. I hope what is desired is to change the debating behavior of members but not preclude debate. Or am I wrong about that? 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcw Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Public warnings usually are the last resort. We choose to handle most warnings in private. Our goal is not public humiliation, but private warnings based on reports of rule violations. We do not choose to make a public spectal out of people and choose to work with people until it is no longer possible. If we close a thread, it is for good reason. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Its been my experience that the mods typically will warn us when we're breaking the rules or acting like children. The Mods for the most part are very fair and try to keep the peace-peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makecents Posted January 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) Well I don't think it would be humiliating to have a mod reply to a post "hey so-and-so please stay on topic and away from personal attacks" etc. Plus that helps educate everyone on what is or is not acceptable behavior. When a thread just gets locked, maybe some of the posters had private mod interactions but the rest of them don't see that so can not learn from the mistakes of others. If getting a public warning is too humiliating to take, maybe folks should stay off the internet! But just my views, YMMV of course. Thanks for the clarification. Edited January 17, 2013 by makecents 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumper64 Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Well I don't think it would be humiliating to have a mod reply to a post "hey so-and-so please stay on topic and away from personal attacks" etc. Plus that helps educate everyone on what is or is not acceptable behavior. When a thread just gets locked, maybe some of the posters had private mod interactions but the rest of them don't see that so can not learn from the mistakes of others. If getting a public warning is too humiliating to take, maybe folks should stay off the internet! But just my views, YMMV of course. Thanks for the clarification. If you go and look, I did make a comment on why threads are locked and for everyone to PLAY NICE!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makecents Posted January 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 If you go and look, I did make a comment on why threads are locked and for everyone to PLAY NICE!! Right and I think that is a good practice. Personally I think it would work even better if you pointed out the (parts of) posts that were looking like they were leading to trouble so folks would not just think it was the other guy. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastarnie Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) We aren't kids, if we can't figure it out, IMO somethings wrong. Rules are all there in black and white, with some blue. Oh and some gray. Why ask why? I think the mods here do a great job, and I been here for a little while. And I believe I'll keep the rest of my opinion to myself, so that I don't break the rules. :)/> Edited January 17, 2013 by fastarnie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumper64 Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Right and I think that is a good practice. Personally I think it would work even better if you pointed out the (parts of) posts that were looking like they were leading to trouble so folks would not just think it was the other guy. I wish my job was that easy!! I have a full time job and I am taking an online course so I tend to get my point across and move on! Most of the time I will check back to see if everything has calmed down or not but in this case another one of our great mods stepped in and took it over!! We have hundreds of post to check out everyday and it is hard to remember everything that is going on! I will try to do better! We aren't kids, if we can't figure it out, IMO somethings wrong. Rules are all there in black and white, with some blue. Oh and some gray. Why ask why? I think the mods here do a great job, and I been here for a little while. And I believe I'll keep the rest of my opinion to myself, so that I don't break the rules. /> Thank YOU!!! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Right and I think that is a good practice. Personally I think it would work even better if you pointed out the (parts of) posts that were looking like they were leading to trouble so folks would not just think it was the other guy. Really.........Really? Re-read the posts by all(including myself),it's not hard to figure out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinsa Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 I wish my job was that easy!! I have a full time job and I am taking an online course so I tend to get my point across and move on! Most of the time I will check back to see if everything has calmed down or not but in this case another one of our great mods stepped in and took it over!! We have hundreds of post to check out everyday and it is hard to remember everything that is going on! I will try to do better! Thank YOU!!! LOL, Critical Analysis of someone's Bullcrap post that's breaking the rules. Yeah that's going to happen! - 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyrider Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) So let me get this straight you come on here asking why threads are locked? you just joined the site 3 days ago ( which we all know your an ex banned member of this site with a new account) and start to question why threads are getting locked and that you basically dont agree with it. If you dont like what the Mods are doing as far as locking threads go make your own website. No one is forcing you to stay here, I think its kinda funny you just joined and already making demands. Why because your lopsters buddies cant post now? Well I don't think it would be humiliating to have a mod reply to a post "hey so-and-so please stay on topic and away from personal attacks" etc. Plus that helps educate everyone on what is or is not acceptable behavior. When a thread just gets locked, maybe some of the posters had private mod interactions but the rest of them don't see that so can not learn from the mistakes of others. If getting a public warning is too humiliating to take, maybe folks should stay off the internet! But just my views, YMMV of course. Thanks for the clarification. maybe YOU should go make your own site. Edited January 18, 2013 by easyrider 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makecents Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Really.........Really? Re-read the posts by all(including myself),it's not hard to figure out. I pretty much agree but am not sure some of the offenders do since they seem to keep doing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumper64 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 LOL, Critical Analysis of someone's Bullcrap post that's breaking the rules. Yeah that's going to happen! - 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makecents Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) LOL, Critical Analysis of someone's Bullcrap post that's breaking the rules. Yeah that's going to happen! What sort of "critical analysis"? When a mod reads a post that caused them to think about locking the thread the "analysis" is already done, they could instead post (hey so and so, calm down). Bumper seems to post such cautions but as far as I can see does not name names and said the policy was that such would be too humiliating. Ok, just asking. So let me get this straight you come on here asking why threads are locked? you just joined the site 3 days ago ( which we all know your an ex banned member of this site with a new account) and start to question why threads are getting locked and that you basically dont agree with it. If you dont like what the Mods are doing as far as locking threads go make your own website. No one is forcing you to stay here, I think its kinda funny you just joined and already making demands. Why because your lopsters buddies cant post now? maybe YOU should go make your own site. I have a perfect friendly conversation with a couple of the mods about this, and you jump on my case? Whats with that? Is any discussion of policy, even inquiring as to what it is, grounds to you that I should go away and start my own site? Seems rather an extreme response to me, but to each their own. Edited January 18, 2013 by makecents 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyrider Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) What sort of "critical analysis"? When a mod reads a post that caused them to think about locking the thread, they could instead post (hey so and so, calm down). Bumper seems to post such cautions but as far as I can see does not name names and said the policy was that such would be too humiliating. Ok, just asking. I have a perfect friendly conversation with a couple of the mods about this, and you jump on my case? Whats with that? Is any discussion of policy, even inquiring as to what it is, grounds to you that I should go away and start my own site? Seems rather an extreme response to me, but to each their own. nope i just see through your BS as many others do and was anticipating one you lopsters to make another thread complaining about it well here it is Edited January 18, 2013 by easyrider 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makecents Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 nope i just see through your BS as many others do and was anticipating one you lopsters to make another thread complaining about it well here it is Where do you see me complaining? I'm just ASKING. Cool your jets man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumper64 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Bumper seems to post such cautions but as far as I can see does not name names and said the policy was that such would be too humiliating. Ok, just asking. Makecents, I have been a mod here at DV starting in 09, most people here know my style of modding. I will let people work issues out on their own as we are all adults but when I see things going to far I will step in and say something. I usually don't call out names as most know who is out of line and who is not! When I have to call out names it is usually the start to me warming up the ban hammer If I see you stepping out of line I will be sure to call you out by name!! j/kidding We have some of the best mods here at DV that we have ever had from the time I started so we must be doing something right!!! Most people LIKE US!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makecents Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) Makecents, I have been a mod here at DV starting in 09, most people here know my style of modding. I will let people work issues out on their own as we are all adults but when I see things going to far I will step in and say something. I usually don't call out names as most know who is out of line and who is not! When I have to call out names it is usually the start to me warming up the ban hammer If I see you stepping out of line I will be sure to call you out by name!! j/kidding Touche! I definitely asked for that one! I will always try to play nice! Edited January 18, 2013 by makecents 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcw Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Makecents, IWe have some of the best mods here at DV that we have ever had from the time I started so we must be doing something right!!! Most people LIKE US!! :o/> dang it, most people have not visited the chatroom yet :P/> I just have to say that I believe MOST people here respect us, not too sure if they like us :lol:/> makecents - The forum rules are pretty straight forward and we are all adults. If the TOS needs to be read to someone, then maybe they need to have their mommy read and explain it to them. :P/> 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Wow , if you all think the forum is a tough gig to follow you have not been in the chat room. We get some very heavy discussions in there and believe me the Mods are on it like white on rice. By the way we always get the evil eye before the BOOT comes down. Been there done that. To all Mods great job love you all. :bow:/> :twocents:/> :tiphat:/> :twothumbs:/> 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinarkicker Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 OK enough is enough, KCW you need to behave, and that goes for bumper64 and easyrider... I will pull this bus over and make you all walk if you don't behave. OK I am sick (literally) so now everyone behave. DK :surgeon:/> 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIZIOIRAQI Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 OK enough is enough, KCW you need to behave, and that goes for bumper64 and easyrider... I will pull this bus over and make you all walk if you don't behave. OK I am sick (literally) so now everyone behave. DK /> DinarKicker Wake up it was just a Dream !!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vietnam1969 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Right and I think that is a good practice. Personally I think it would work even better if you pointed out the (parts of) posts that were looking like they were leading to trouble so folks would not just think it was the other guy. I gave you a + to get rid of the - someone gave you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makecents Posted January 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 I gave you a + to get rid of the - someone gave you. Thanks! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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