Iceland forgives mortgage debt of its population

[carlos in san diego]

We (U.S.) could stop the printing of currency "out of thin air." Create a currency with value and worth is difficult to do, but we can and should do it. The difficulty of a fiat currency will multiply over time; and that is what is happening to the U.S.

Unless things change in Washington, you will continue to be paid with worthless dollars. Voting the administration out may be the best way to get a pay raise.

Hey Nelg: With all due respect, and don't take this personaly, as it's not intended that way! I would like to point out something that I've noticed has been a reocurring misconception that I believe is keeping you, and many others from seeing the truth for what it is. You keep wondering why the governement does not do this and how come they can't do this other, well, you have to realise that in a perfect world that is exactly what government is supposed to do. However our government was secretly highjacked starting about 60 years ago.

"Our" government, is a misconception. It is not "our" government, but the government installed and maintained by the elite bankster cartel. The illusion has been created to make you and me think that we have a voice in the way our government is run. We don't! The elite run and own both political parties, it's their agenda that is being promoted and not ours!

The infiltration has slowly crept into all departments and agencies of the federal government and state governments as well: it's a pyramid, where information has been compartamentalized, and everyone is on a "need to know basis only" so that no one has a clear picture of what is actually going on, except those at the very top...the elite who control the whole thing.

This has only been made possible by a complete control of the media. They tell us through the scripted media what they want us to hear, think and feel, they have created our dislikes and hates, and used these to their advantage so that we back their agenda, and make us feel that we are truly participants in our own futures. Nothing could be further from the truth!

This is why the government does not do what is right by us, I hope you and others see things a bit clearer now... Thanks!

Carlos

[IValueMe]

You had me until you said, "we can come up with a way to equitably distribute the wealth in this country" I do not want to share MY wealth with people who have done nothing to earn it.

You are basically saying that the people who have worked 18 hour days to accumulate the wealth they have, should just share it with all those who don't want to work even an 8 hour day. That is what is wrong with our country now.

The biggest misconception that people have about the wealthy is they spend all their time doing nothing. Wrong, most spend 10-14 hours a day working to make more or keep what they have.

If you are asking me if I am saying that you have to share your wealth with people who have not earned it? The short answer "no".

I am not clear where this idea that this great country is filled with people who don't want to work comes from. I think it's more propaganda from the dark cabal who wants to keep us divided.

I believe strongly that the majority of Americans are decent hard-working people. Those who you are referring to are very much the minority. What I am talking about is opportunity! Jobs! Economic Development!

I'm talking about moving from a society of consumerism to becoming the producers that we once were. I also understand that we are all in this together and that what affects the general populace impacts me. In the end, I am clear that the way to protect and increase my wealth is to support opportunity for others. I am not my brother's keeper, I am my brother.

Many Blessings Lady Danan...I like your Avatar!

[Danan]

The fraud comes, not on your part, it comes on the part of the so called loaner. They never lent you a dime, but it is a long story and way to much to try to explain here, it takes many hours to understand the ins and outs of the banking fraud you signed into. Yes, I agree you did all the right things as most all of did that preceded you. The fraud of the mortgage system needs to be stopped, but that will take getting back to lawful money and leaving this legal tender we are using in the dust. Just think most young people have never seen or used a dollar in their lifetime.

OKayyy. How many young people are you around? I have 7 grandkids and only one who is too young to understand what a dollar is. Three work hard for thier money and only one that has a bank account. They work hard for their money and budget what they get. They have dollars and fives and twenties. So I am confused as to what you are saying, when you say, "most young people have never seen or used a dollar in their lifetime."

If you are asking me if I am saying that you have to share your wealth with people who have not earned it? The short answer "no".

I am not clear where this idea that this great country is filled with people who don't want to work comes from. I think it's more propaganda from the dark cabal who wants to keep us divided.

I believe strongly that the majority of Americans are decent hard-working people. Those who you are referring to are very much the minority. What I am talking about is opportunity! Jobs! Economic Development!

I'm talking about moving from a society of consumerism to becoming the producers that we once were. I also understand that we are all in this together and that what affects the general populace impacts me. In the end, I am clear that the way to protect and increase my wealth is to support opportunity for others. I am not my brother's keeper, I am my brother.

Many Blessings Lady Danan...I like your Avatar!

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Thank you. That sounds much better. However, if you ever work in the judicial system you will be appalled by the sheer number of people who have no job. They are either drawing some type of SS benefits, welfare or dealing drugs. I was a bail bondsman for 7 years and I could not believe how many young people who appeared to be healthy was on some form of SS. It still blows my mind that my parents had to fight to get their benefits and these young people who have not put into SS or drawing benefits.

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[IValueMe]

Madam, that is a socialist mindset!!! ANYONE in America, born here or not, can earn MUCH MORE than they NEED by working hard at something they are good at. It is the less productive, "socialized" members of our society that want the rest of us to foot the bill for them. They don't want to "do what it takes" to be successful themselves, ergo the "occupiers" of late. They want to be given things instead of work for them. They want what their parents have worked for tens of years to achieve and build, as 20 year olds. "Spreading the wealth around" is counter-productive to ALL societies........ look at Europe.

Mak63

I know that as human beings, we are driven to categorize, and label everything and everyone. I have stated before in a previous post that I am not of the mindset that only a few select people can get a piece of the pie. I am for baking a bigger pie. If in your opinion if that makes me a socialist, (shoulder shrug), you are entitled to your opinion. I am about creating vs. competing. Sooner or later we will see that is the way out of this mess!

If working hard was a guarantee of prosperity, I believe most everyone in America would be rich. Unfortunately, that is not the case. One thing I've learned, that is that nothing is for certain. Things can and will change overnight. We can all be standing on the other side of the fence in someone else's shoes. I've been on both sides of the fence and what I've developed is a little something called compassion. I want to see that the people like you who work so hard get what they truly have earned.

Respectfully,

IValueMe

[64jaguar]

Hey Nelg: With all due respect, and don't take this personaly, as it's not intended that way! I would like to point out something that I've noticed has been a reocurring misconception that I believe is keeping you, and many others from seeing the truth for what it is. You keep wondering why the governement does not do this and how come they can't do this other, well, you have to realise that in a perfect world that is exactly what government is supposed to do. However our government was secretly highjacked starting about 60 years ago.

"Our" government, is a misconception. It is not "our" government, but the government installed and maintained by the elite bankster cartel. The illusion has been created to make you and me think that we have a voice in the way our government is run. We don't! The elite run and own both political parties, it's their agenda that is being promoted and not ours!

The infiltration has slowly crept into all departments and agencies of the federal government and state governments as well: it's a pyramid, where information has been compartamentalized, and everyone is on a "need to know basis only" so that no one has a clear picture of what is actually going on, except those at the very top...the elite who control the whole thing.

This has only been made possible by a complete control of the media. They tell us through the scripted media what they want us to hear, think and feel, they have created our dislikes and hates, and used these to their advantage so that we back their agenda, and make us feel that we are truly participants in our own futures. Nothing could be further from the truth!

This is why the government does not do what is right by us, I hope you and others see things a bit clearer now... Thanks!

Carlos

right on Carlos! So, when I get into it here on D-vets about the fact that I MIGHT vote or I might not, everybody has a fit. Your asking people to fill positions in a Foreign Corporation that Really only has Jurisdiction in the 10 Square Miles of the District of Columbia and five U.S. territories: the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, the U.S. Virgin Islands and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands. The United States of America doesn't even own the District, but they own us! Once elected Politicians become agents of a Foreign Corporation just like the Cops and Judges and IRS agents so on and so forth. The Government doesn't have any duty to you and the Constitution is their enemy, especially the Bill of Rights it's why everything is "Color of Law" right now. The founding Documents are the REAL Law!