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I lean towards this analogy For 10 years, members of Saddam Hussein's Baathist party -- including many of the dead dictator's top generals -- have hidden in the shadows of Iraq, persecuted by government in Baghdad and plotting, praying and preparing for the chance to reclaim their country. Now they are back, paired in a bloodthirsty alliance with the brutal jihadis of the Islamic States of Iraq and Syria/Levant. These vicious Islamic radicals fighting alongside top officials from Hussein's dictatorship, are working to seize control of the battle-scarred nation. For now, their objectives converge

That is obvious to me too They say satan is very decieving and the ignorant are easy targets We all are crazy mad about what's going on with them and it may be necessary to killi them all We seem to of exhausted any other options Watching this is something when ya think about it If your child was posesed by satan woukd ya want to kill your child or try to help them first Maybe they should drop leaflets written by the shieks and clerics and ayatollas explaining that to them But the way we deal with it is is some person is possesed on a shooting spree of innocent people in a mall or school is to gun them down They made the choices and for what ever reason they chose satan Some of those radicals really believe that their God will return when the entire world is in chaos, so they want to create chaos because they want God to come back , they are that miserable But I don't see it that way myself I believe in the lords prayer Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven Getting to that point is also a challenge It seems to be the better alternative Just go out and set an example of how one believes it is in heaven Its looking like they are going to be eliminated and their time is at hand they need to repent the "grim" reaper is coming their way

As long as iraq is able to meet its foriegn debt obligations it's not bankrupt Maliki didn't leave iraq debt ridden The external debts of iraq have been cut from 600% of its gdp to 30% debt to GDP I just got done reading this before I saw this post and I don't think iraq has defaulted it's debts This explains how countrys deal with their debt http://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/10/sovereign-debt-default.asp Every country has debt and it's not unusual at all to have debt Defaulting on debt means you can't make your payments on your debt not that they can't pay off all their debts at once in one payment No country pays off all is debts all at once in one payment It's all done with structured payment plans If iraq has 100 billion in debt they may only be obligated to pay 5 billion a year in payments and if they can't afford it they restructure the payments till they can make the payments There is no such thing as confiscating your debts from soveriegn nations and its in the creditors interest to restructure rather than lose everything that they loaned them The link explains it

So if the money was deluted 1% and they printed up 100 billion they would actually have 99 billion in value to spend , compliments of everyone who holds that currency I believe that's what iraq did Everytime they printed up another dinar the value was diluted down accordingly IRaq had 28 billion dinar in the early 1980s and its value was around $3.30 each , thru printing up trillions the value ended up where it's at Now they have to restructure it

Now days money is printed up out of necessity it's all fiat If a country has 10 trillion dollars and they decide to print up a 100 billion dollars out of thin air , they can , all they need to do is dilute the value down 1% in that case since 100 billion is 1% of 10 trillion Then they can grow the value back by growing the private sector 1% without adding more money Or just let inflation take it's course with a 1% devaluation of its currency The usa devalued its currency quite a bit over the last 7 years and let inflation run its course As long as inflation is kept low annually it's easily absorbed The govts make choices as to why they do this and national security is number one on most govts list if it's necessary they will dilute it

Maybe the plan is to let them , as many as want to , get their plane tickets and fly over there to help the terrorists , let them recruit , heck maybe we are helping them recruit as many of these types of people as possible to one location in the world Then take them all out So if there's any other people out there who want to join isis , get our tickets and get over there so you get your spot next to the rest of them when your all killed

I really think their should be a million troops there right now and curfews and Marshall law should be in effect until this is over , and let's get it over with , it should of been over with last June but someone didn't give a hoot when maliki was asking for help They turned it into a political battle for control of iraq before anyone would help Well any one besides russia and Iran

It seems they are doing anything they can to draw a massive military response Wonder what they have planned Are they sitting on thousands of human shields , > yep Is it possible they have a trap set up , or some kind of chemical weapon ready that they stole from Syria It makes ya wonder why they moved away from isreal instead of into isreal for this movement They must of decided , hey let's go kill some Muslims instead of Israelis Jordan wants to help Iran wants to help Russia wants to help France wants to help Canada wants to help britan wants to help Germany wants to help So why aren't they overwhemingly surrounded right now , 6 months ago ? Who's running the show ? Obama ? Abadi ?

Abadi has had plenty of time now , he's got obama in his corner , something maliki didn't have So why is this happening , because of maliki who hasn't been in control for 6 months ? Who was collecting The ghost soldiers pay checks in the sunni run military bases in sunni territory , who now reject the shittes help in sunni territories It gets to the point where it's to late They lined up people in ditches and executed them , now they light them on fire There is no negotiations for that They really need to put them to sleep , cut off the water , electric , food , and ammunition The terrorists are collecting the electricity bill payments from the citizens that come from the power plant at mosul dam that the good guys control Take their refineries back cut off the feul they have for vehicles and generators Their computers battery's will go dead The cell phones will go dead Cut off the dammmm supply linesc Let food in that is very un- nutritional , run them down No more pay checks for anyone from the govt in that part of the country and forget that inclusiveness untill they are out of terrorists control No more negotiations except for their own heads delivered on a platter

I think the sunnis are rejecting shitte help and the kurds are rejecting the shittes in what they call "their territory " It's all iraq which falls under the jurisdiction of the federal govt for security If the Kurds end up getting their butts slaughtered then they will say it's the Feds fault because they didn't help them

Well they can always say it's maliki and file a law suit saying maliki didn't defend iraq Oh they might have to blame it on abadi now What ever , who ever they blame it on maliki or abadi or obama , at least they can say , get a rope I see people are volenteering to go fight isis in a Christian malitia now from around the world , so I guess anyone who doesn't go is allowing it to happen

Has iraq issued new currency lately ? gold probably will be used as a cover for the new currency, which purports Bank issued Purport = appear or claim to be or do something, especially falsely; profess. "she is not the person she purports to be" synonyms: claim to be, profess to be, pretend to be; More

China doesn't hold that much because they have over 4 trillion dollars worth of foriegn currency reserves besides their gold to back their currency plus 4,500 tonnes of gold http://www.caseyresearch.com/articles/the-truth-about-chinas-massive-gold-hoard The cbi has gold listed on its web site but it's combined with imf sdrs ,, it shows 5.1 trillion dinars worth combined Iraq has 67 billion dollars reserves and around 4 billion dollars in gold

(2013) Gold tonnes Eurozone* 10,786.3 US 8,133.5 China** 4,500.0 Russia 1,068.4 India 557.7 Japan 765.2 China 1,054.1 Last time when we heard about the 42 tonnes iraq bought this year we figured they now had 116 tonnes about 4 billion dollars worth now

Thanks I got all my shoes in a row

http://www.smarteranalyst.com/2015/02/17/price-oil-likely-fall-20-rather-rise-80/

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“There are many professional and patriotic officers from the former Iraqi army [under Saddam Hussein] who we can draw on their capabilities,” Hadidi said There appears to be a rift in the stance of the two dominant Kurdish parties, the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK), in terms of their approach to the Shiite armed groups. Whereas the KDP, led by Barzani, is adamant in rejecting the presence of Shiite armed groups in areas under Kurdish control, the PUK, led by former Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, appears to have a lukewarm position. Peshmerga forces affiliated with the PUK have cooperated with the Shiite armed groups in liberating areas such as Amerli in Salahuddin province and Jalawla in Diyala province Ok then

This guy doesn't sound to Brite

A Christian militia rises to fight Islamic State in Iraq http://m.rediff.com/news/report/pix-a-christian-militia-rises-to-fight-islamic-state-in-iraq/20150217.htm Can't post all the pictures off me phone

Anbar officials reject Shiite popular mobilization forces Officials in Iraq's Anbar province are concerned about the members of popular mobilization forces carrying out sectarian revenge operations against the residents of the province, 80% of which falls under the control of the Islamic State (IS). The popular mobilization forces formed following the fall of Mosul on June 10, 2014, after supreme Shiite religious authority Ali al-Sistani announced the “righteous jihad” fatwa. The forces brought together a number of Shiite militias, some of which receive direct support from Iran. On Feb. 6, members of the popular mobilization forces killed two Anbar tribesmen in al-Sajariyah in eastern Ramadi, stirring the anger of the local Anbar government and the tribes supporting the security forces. Anbar's popular mobilization forces comprise about 3,000 members who are mostly concentrated around Amiriyat Fallujah, in addition to several military points where Iraqi security forces are stationed. Azal al-Fahdawi, a member of Anbar’s provincial council, told Al-Monitor, “Many tribal fighters in Ramadi and officials in the province are wishing that the popular mobilization would join and help us in our fight against IS. However, if there were revenge operations or some provocations by the popular mobilization, then it will result in additional unnecessary problems.” Fahdawi said, “The popular mobilization forces are being cautious, but their wish to eliminate IS is stronger than their cautiousness,” adding, “The popular mobilization should be put under the command of Anbar’s Operations Command. Only then will we support it and provide whatever it asks for.” “The majority of Anbar tends to welcome the popular mobilization among tribal fighters,” Fahdawi said. “There is coordination between the tribes and the popular mobilization. A delegation of Anbar’s sheikhs met with leaders of the popular mobilization, and they held a workshop regarding their cooperation.” Fahdawi added, “The popular mobilization’s movement is limited in Anbar. Its presence only extends to the areas of al-Sajariyah, al-Hawz and al-Jazira in Ramadi, and the Yabani [Japanese] Bridge from Saqlawiyah’s side in north Fallujah, since these are the hotspots and most dangerous areas.” Naim al-Qaoud, the head of the Bunemer tribes, which fight alongside Iraqi security forces, told Al-Monitor, “There are no problems with the popular mobilization in Anbar.” Around 500 of Qaoud's tribesmen were killed by IS. “The conflicts that occurred in certain areas might have been with members from a different group and not from the popular mobilization,” he said. “There is coordination between the tribes and the popular mobilization forces,” he said, but described it as, “not of the required level.” He added, “There are men in Anbar who are capable of cleansing it [from terrorism]. I am not saying that I am against the popular mobilization, but there are men who volunteered in Anbar and they are capable of liberating it from IS but they need reinforcements.” In reality, the parties that are welcoming the popular mobilization in Anbar do not have any other options to face IS’ expansion throughout the province, in addition to its constant attempts to take over the city of Ramadi, Anbar’s center, where the local government is situated. “Why doesn’t the government provide reinforcement for the tribes?” Qaoud asked. “Some believe that certain concerned parties want the popular mobilization to participate in cleansing the province while others think that some parties want the province to remain under IS control.” The demand to provide reinforcement for Anbar’s tribes to eliminate IS has become persistent, especially since the majority of tribal parties complain about their lack of weapons and ammunition. IS, meanwhile, was able to take possession of the Iraqi army's heavy weaponry as the army left these areas. In a statement following the killing of the two Anbar tribesmen in al-Sajariyah, President of Anbar’s Provincial Council Sabah Karhout said, “The council did not ask the popular mobilization to come to Anbar. We asked the central government and leadership to support the province to put an end to strife and eliminate IS.” Al-Monitor was able to obtain a copy of Karhout’s statement, in which he asked the Ministry of Defense for “all the forces that come to Anbar to be under the umbrella of the government and security forces in Anbar,” noting that “there is a revolution in Anbar by its tribes against IS but it needs certain fundamental elements.” “The central government will be held responsible for any security deterioration that might occur in Anbar, due to the lack of weapons provided for tribes and security forces,” he said, stressing the need to “increase Anbar’s share in weapons and ammunition reinforcement to face the threat posed by the terrorist group.” Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/02/iraq-popular-mobilization-anbar-crimes-tribes.html#ixzz3RznFAgfY

ERBIL, Iraq — A law to found a paramilitary National Guard force in Iraq to assist in the fight against the Islamic State (IS) has put Kurds at loggerheads with other communities in northern Iraq. Kurds strongly reject the formation of any rival armed units in the parts of northern Iraq that are known as disputed territories to which Kurdish, Sunni Arab, Turkmen and Shiite Arab populations lay claims. Most of the disputed territories are now under the control of Kurdish peshmerga forces. Members of the other communities want to play a role in the security arrangements of those areas and hope that the National Guard will become a vehicle for their return to the security scene in disputed territories. But fearful that the birth of other armed groups can weaken their control over those areas amid a difficult war with IS and give rise to chaotic outcomes, the Kurds have resisted the idea of other competing forces in the disputed territories. Shakhawan Abdullah, a Kurdish member of the Iraqi parliament, told Al-Monitor that the law has to make it clear that the National Guard will not be established in Kurdish-controlled areas. “The National Guard law should stipulate clearly that the peshmerga is in charge in the disputed territories and that’s it,” said Abdullah, a Kirkuk deputy in the Iraqi parliament’s security and defense committee. Iraq’s Cabinet passed a draft law on Feb. 3 that paves the way for legalizing the status of disparate Shiite armed groups and organizing tribal Sunni forces under the umbrella of a National Guard force. The National Guard draft law was scheduled for a first reading by Iraqi members of parliament during a meeting on Feb. 10. But deep disagreements regarding certain items of the bill led the speaker to delay discussions indefinitely. Grappling with a resilient and formidable foe in the form of IS, the Iraqi government is desperate to use the National Guard as a key element to turn the tide against the jihadist group. There appears to be nationwide support for the creation of the National Guard as far as fighting IS is concerned in the areas that the group controls in northern and central Iraq. While Kurds also support the idea of the National Guard to fight IS in other parts of the country, they do not want those fighters in areas they run such as the Kurdistan Region and the disputed parts of Kirkuk, Ninevah, Salahuddin and Khanaqin provinces under their control. In particular, the oil-rich province of Kirkuk has been at the center of the controversy surrounding the National Guard. In an interview published Feb. 8 in the London-based pan-Arab daily, Al Hayat, Iraqi Kurdistan President Massoud Barzani said, “We are not in need of the Popular Mobilization [forces] and will not allow any forces to enter Kirkuk.” Popular Mobilization refers to the armed Shiite groups formed after the collapse of several divisions of the Iraqi army when IS attacked Mosul and other main areas in northern and central Iraq. After the Iraqi army forces were routed by IS militants last June, the army’s 12th Division abandoned its bases in Kirkuk. Kurdish peshmerga forces moved swiftly and set up shop in the areas of the province where Kurdish populations reside, including the city of Kirkuk and the rich oil fields in its environs. Sunni Arabs form the vast majority of the Arab population in the ethnically and sectarian-diverse Kirkuk province and other disputed territories. The southern parts of Kirkuk province, around the districts of Hawija and Rashad, host the majority of Sunni Arabs in the province and are currently controlled by IS forces. But Sunni Arab leaders who are not residing in IS-controlled territories demand the formation of a Sunni force as part of the National Guard. “Sunni Arab tribes want to be part of the forces defending Kirkuk alongside the peshmerga,” Ismael Hadidi, the chief of the Sunni Arab Hadidi tribe, told Al-Monitor. “Daesh [iS] poses a huge threat to us all.” Hadidi, who also served as Kirkuk’s deputy governor for a number of years after the US-led invasion in 2003, said that the structure of the National Guard forces and their command structure must be clearly defined. He added that in the event that the National Guard forces are established in Kirkuk, there should be “coordination and a joint command” between them and the peshmerga forces. Another draft law aimed at relatively easing the restrictions placed on the return of the former members of Saddam Hussein's outlawed Baath Party to public life is expected to be discussed alongside the National Guard bill. The Sunni Arabs want a board that was in charge of identifying and disqualifying Baathists from engaging in public life to be dismantled as they accuse it of practically launching a witch-hunt campaign against Sunni Arabs. “There are many professional and patriotic officers from the former Iraqi army [under Saddam Hussein] who we can draw on their capabilities,” Hadidi said. While the majority of Kurdish members of the Iraqi parliament and Kurdish politicians in Kirkuk appear to be against the formation of National Guard units in Kirkuk, there is already some measure of cooperation between the Shiite Popular Mobilization units. IS launched a multi-pronged assault on Kirkuk city on Jan, 29, but after two days of intense fighting, Kurdish forces pushed back IS militants, preventing them from reaching the city. Following those attacks, scores of Shiite armed elements reportedly set up shop south of Kirkuk city with the stated aim of assisting the peshmerga forces in defending the city. There were some Popular Mobilization forces in Kirkuk even before Jan. 29. There appears to be a rift in the stance of the two dominant Kurdish parties, the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK), in terms of their approach to the Shiite armed groups. Whereas the KDP, led by Barzani, is adamant in rejecting the presence of Shiite armed groups in areas under Kurdish control, the PUK, led by former Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, appears to have a lukewarm position. Peshmerga forces affiliated with the PUK have cooperated with the Shiite armed groups in liberating areas such as Amerli in Salahuddin province and Jalawla in Diyala province. Abdullah, the Kurdish member of parliament, says that the Shiite groups have violated their earlier agreements with Kurds to leave the Kurdish-controlled areas after Amerli was recaptured from IS in September and Jalawla in November last year. In a visit to Kirkuk on Feb. 7, Hadi al-Ameri, the head of the Badr Brigades, an Iranian-backed Shiite armed group, hinted at possible plans for cooperation between the Popular Mobilization units and the peshmerga forces. “Kirkuk is of high importance and has oil and gas resources as well as power stations,” Ameri said following a meeting with Kirkuk Gov. Najmaddin Karim. “We have to act toward ending the threat posed by Daesh [iS] through high coordination with the peshmerga forces and the governor, and this requires swift action. Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/02/iraq-national-guard-shiite-peshmerga-kurds.html#ixzz3RzmL8EtK

You do know the kurds are part of baghdad just like the rest of the provinces But I agree it seems like the same ole govt but with less money Who made this deal with the Kurds ? I agree they should be honest when making these agreements

It reminds me of when the democrats want something and the republicans stop them Oh get out a rope and hang them And vise versa of course The article states what ? There are "some votes " especially in the state of law coalition , meaning more than maliki which doesn't vote , he's not a legislator But anyway they want to make sure the kurds live up to their end of the deal with abadi What's wrong with transparency in this agreement? No good ? I think it's typical iraqi politics The Kurds derailed maliki , now the table is turned Just politics , just politics Good luck though maybe they can get the shittes on their side , unless the shittes have a memory The State of Law Coalition , also known as Rule of Law Coalition 92 members in that bloc The biggest in iraq Tough bunch to break , they were murdered and torchered by the sunnis for decades Now they got a voice That's the ugly truth about iraq Nut cases running the show I wonder how the sadrists are voting They got 40 seats There's a lot of shittes to deal with Go ahead and kill their leader and see what happens

I don't think the shittes will ever vote to help the kurds do anything ,, ever ! And vise versa It's like the democrats asking republicans to vote along with them , it isn't happening