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There are only just a few people here who get excited when hearing about a LOP. But they have little understanding about what a "LOP" actually is. All those that actually understand what an RD (or, LOP, according to some) is and how it works have no love for it. They all hope to not see an RD occur. The Excited-About-a-LOP ones have no clue as to what an RD is or how it works. Neither do the anti-LOPSTER who like to call those that understand what an RD is, LOPSTERS. And the anti-LOPSTERS like to believe there is some sort of contest going on where the best promotion of a given side wins the contest. And the anti-LOPSTERS believe those that understand what an RD are endeavoring to promote its happening. But that is entirely in error. The so called LOPSTERS could not care less about such a non-existent contest. Their only interest is to present an accurate understanding of what an RD is and what it should mean to us along with understandings about a prospective raising of three zeros means, which the anti-loppers assure us won't happen, an understanding based upon emotions rather than facts.

Who woulda thunk?

Me 2 Made me laugh.

@ice Whoa! I am in awe. Never thought I would ever be impressed by anyone thumping the Bible, so to speak. Pretty impressive, indeed. Prolly hurt a few poor peep's feelings, here, though. You will likely experience a strong back lash. So, gird yourself. I am interested in the extent of your studies, ice. Have you studied about Paul? I should maybe mention I have a real respect for authentic words of Jesus (the so called Lord's Prayer isn't among them), but little for Paul. In my view, the Christian church became utterly corrupted at the onset, and by Paul. Jesus appointed a certain one of his disciples to lead the church into the future, and as a kind of mystical-minded joke named the person, Peter. Petros. Which means, rock. This in turn meant, FOUNDATION. Peter was supposed to be the foundation of the church. But another man trumped him. And that man's name was Saul. This is the same man who made the incredible claim that over 500 people witnessed the risen Christ at the same time, at a gathering. Paul wasn't there. He was supposedly but simply reporting on the event. Passing it on in passing. Just a side remark. (Sorry I don't recall the chapter and verse.). With that many witnesses one would think that the most incredible event of all time and history would have been reported also by others, considering just how many there was present. All through his writings he sets the tone for modern day Evangelists' style of preaching, like the "fundamental" exaggerated performances. It's like Paul sanctified it all. Have you studied about Paul and how he had been a Roman soldier bent on persecution of Christians? Are you aware of the so-called, Secret Religion of the Roman Soldiers? That region was called, Mithraism. And one of the main features of this religion concerned the sending of a goat out in the desert to suffer and die as a sacrifice for the expiation of the sins committed that year by the Roman soldiers. I am going to claim here (though this is actually not my own idea) that what Paul mainly did was he took his Mithra religion and translated it into Christianity with the idea that Christ suffered and died on the cross for the ridding of sins of those that "believe" in him. All Paul's idea! He made it up. I am not aware that Jesus said anything about anything such matter as that, so modern Christianity is misnamed. It should be called, Paulinism. He mostly invented it. One of the main problems of modern Christianity is that it does not have a clue in consideration of metaphors. Jesus was asked, "Why do you speak in parables." He said, to paraphrase it, "It is because you aren't ready to hear the straight dope. You have not spiritually matured enough, yet." And he indicated that there were incredible things he could tell, but none of it would be understood. So he makes a point to keep things simple by using parables, which are but symbolic stories. And those parables are just one type of symbology among many others in the Bible. But modern Christians, it seems, are no more mature than they were back at the start as they seem to have no clue as to the use of symbols, and, thus, dramatically, fanatically, take ideas and things at their face value. Just as our governments of the world have become corrupted, so have religions. I sometimes watch the Sunday preachers on TV, in amazement. They are all very much alike. I believe they study each other. Copy each other's moves. I am astounded how anyone could accept any of that malarkey. Basically, it is all a scam business and art to suck wealth out of poor peoples pockets, and it hinges on what was done in the past by powerful people inventing ridged doctrines and beliefs for the sake of enslaving a population's mind body and soul. This is spiritual enslavement. To get really dramatic, here, it is like it's the work of the Devil himself. But the believers just close their minds to the idea of learning and evolving on their own power and initiative and become spiritually stuck as a result. Stopped. In a sense, dead. See? If one is not actively living one's life it is the same as being dead. The immediate foregoing is a point from a series of books I am working on which will be called, the GUIDE Book. It is a set of books concerning spiritual guidance, and alternate Dimensions of Consciousness, but I expect them to be seriously attacked by the fundamentalist community. Their subtitle, is, A Metaphorical Psychology Series. In an early draft stage they were asked for by the Professor of Psychology at the University of Duquesne in Pittsburgh for use as text books. But they were not developed enough for me feel I could let them go yet. You mentioned about how Jesus emphasized the idea that one should remain in a state of expectation, in my terms. My books present the understanding that one needs to expect the unexpected. The idea is that such an attitude keeps one from developing a closed mind. It helps to keep one alive, alert. On one's toes. It is a means for enabling a quality of spiritual vitality to ever be present. It allows Life Force to be able to enter the body and the mind. And, tell me, WHAT MODERN RELIGION TEACHES ANYTHING LIKE THIS? None do. At least, as far as I know. I say, they all fail. They actually oppose congregation members from doing doing anything but BELIEVING what they are told to believe. No inquiry such as you are doing is permitted. No investigation. It's like such questioning is the work of the Devil, himself, at least this is the idea stemming from the modern pulpit, or the TV screen. We live in a truly Dark Age.

I agree. I've said this before but worth saying again. I think Iraq has the potential of becoming the Hong Kong of the Desert. And I think there are others which see it this way, too. But getting the ball rolling in the needed direction (which ever way that is) is a major challenge. . . because. . . there's no apparent handle to get a hold of.

Darin, that was an interesting assessment of the report you provided, and does make sense. It is understandable that BOI can't come right and say, "We got to get of the USD." That would cause hoarding of the dollar, I would think, and an unwelcome reverse psychology effect where the Dinar would subconsciously become rejected. Interesting language used in the document. ". . . . had to mop up this unforeseen FX inflow. . . . " No problemo. Just turn off the tap.

Okay, that's something. Keep looking, though. You might find it. If so, I look forward to the report.

It isn't a question of whether we are spiriatually alive, or not, it is a question of whether we are spiritually blinded by beliefs laid on us to enslave us, body, mind and soul.

But, what if it don't? What then?

Cool.

And. . . ?

Oh, my God! We're goina get Nuked!

Good point. BUT the system is set up for needing go-betweens. Unless one takes advantage of them, one is shut out! Or at least, that's the pitch.

That's been my thinking. The FED is doing the same thing that Saddam did. So why wouldn't the same effects occur? Imagine, a thousand dollar can of cola.

Oh, absolutely! Proof is in the pudding. In this case, cow pudding. Interesting observation. I can see how you might be right about that. Instead of, "guru," he should be being called a Swami, or something like that, maybe.

The chioef problem with a LOP (called, RD, after this) is the end result. The RD will provide parity with the USD. Which is what Iraq wants. The Dinar will be only about 20 cent different from one USD. And that's not just good, it's great! HOWEVER, this is a manufactured value. Not a real value. And as a consequence, it is likely then to crash. I mean, the Dinar will.

That's a good point. Firsr thing original I have seen for some time.

Right! It's like he should stand up like a man so he can be knocked like a bowling pin. CRASH! Much of that situation has to do with our computer translations. Like with raising of three zeros. When you raise a house you tear it down.

That's a new one!

Well, you can't get get knocked down if you don't stand up. Think about that. Right. Turkey is a white meat.

Wouldn't surprise me, either. WHY? Has no effect on what you are holding?

The REALITY is: If the Militia were an component of the government, the Constitution would have declared such is the case. It doesn't. so it's not. It is as simple as that. Fact! Two is better than one, any day. Double taps. ":Manuals on English grammar will tell you that writing the name of a man or woman in all caps like that is not proper usage of English, but that all caps name refers to an artificially created entity like a corporation or trust - known as a "legal fiction" or "legal person" - but not human - in this case, a trust. The law treats this trust as a "person." This "person" is SEPARATE FROM YOU. " Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/81932-republican-candidates-pro-gun-or-not/#ixzz1WYr00UWA NAMES ALL IN CAPS is a corporate thing and relates to the UNITED STATES CORPORATION, which is distinct from the United States under the Constitution For the United States, otherwise known as the government.

That's definitely not the way we want it. What many do not seem to understand is that there will be two currencies. The old Dinar and the NEW. It is only the NEW which gets the new rate. The OLD (what we have), does not change in any way. But it will one day be NG.

Good articles, and much more explanatory and sensible than the computer translations are. The difference in languages makes an "interpretation" of the item far more useful than any attempt at direct translation.

The removal of three zeros only concerns the new Dinar.