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  1. CNN. Broadcasting From The Streets Of Downtown Baghdad During The Annual "Running Of The Camels"! Maliki + Allawi Keep Trying To Shove Each Other Into The Path Of Every Onrushing Camel ! 2-15-2012 Guru Kaperoni I am going to start with a timeline for this event. This is going to create a “window for the RV event. Article Quote…"stages of delete zeros from the currency, divided into three phases, the first phase lasts six months to provide print devices, while the second phase of the introduction of currencies simultaneously, and will last six months to withdraw the old currency and the survival of the new currency." Do you all see what is stated here? That the second phase when implemented will also last 6 months. Next article… “expected to "be the currency exchange in the new fiscal year for 2013." Now we have a drop dead timeline - for this event is impossible to start the 2013 budget unless they start phase two no later than June 2012. That is the drop dead last possible date for the RV (introducing new currencies makes no sense unless the RV occurs prior) to occur. 2-14-2012 Guru Mailman17 ALL IN ALL...I THINK THE NEWS IS OUTSTANDING. LOOK FOR THE BUDGET PASSED QUICKLY BUT WE STILL NEED TO SEE THOSE BILLS GO FIRST...THATS WHAT WE ALL KEEP OUR EYE OUT FOR. ALL IN ALL...IT LOOKS TO THE AVERAGE JOE THAT IRAQ ISNT DOING ANYTHING...BUT THEY ARE...AND WE KNOW IT...LITTLE BY LITTLE...THE NEWS ONCE AGAIN IS IN OUR FAVOR...JUST GOTTA GIVE IT A CHANCE TO LET THEM WRITE IT...THEY ARE SLOW. 2-14-2012 Guru Breitling We should see the RV prior to June because they have said this phase, Phase II, ends in June, but they have never kept a target date on anything. If it doesn't happen, don't be discouraged, it will happen one way or another, hope for the best. 2-14-2012 Guru Mailman17 THE CBI...IS...BEING TOLD TO PUT LIQUIDITY BACK INTO THE STREETS. THAT WAS WHAT I WAS WAITING FOR. DINAR IS AS DRY AS CAN BE INSIDE IRAQ AND THE GOI KNOWS IT...AND MOST LIKELY GETTING PRESSURE FROM THEIR CONTSTITUANTS. EVEN THE DOLLAR MUST BE RUNNING LOW. I KNOW WHAT SHABS TOLD HIM...I HAVE A CRAP LOAD OF SMALL DENOMS...JUST PASS THE ****** LAWS AND THE BUDGET AND OFF WE GO ALONG WITH THE NEW RATE.
  2. CNN. Broadcasting While Taking Orders For The New "Guru Action Hero Doll". It Doesn't Really Do Anything But Whenever Anything Positive Develops - It Takes All The Credit ! Greeting don't promote other sites Members, First of all let me explain a few things. Many have asked (including DV'ers) why it is "Rays update by SteveI". Very simple, this is a forum where we share information regarding whom or where it comes from. Ray is a very close friend of mine and if you (DV'ers) are going to bash and trash someone, then it can be me. Now moving forward and getting the minor details out of the way, I am not sure that most of you know that what is written in the true Arabic language and then translated via several different ways always comes out to be different. If you do not believe this, then go translate the very same article in several translators and you will see the difference. What we have to our advantage is not only our counter part partner in Iraq which reads and understand both and help us, Ray and all of his contacts do the same. So when I say that we compare notes (for the DV'ers) that trash us, here are some facts we can and will share. Without going in to a lot of details because Adam (not his real name on DV) has many employes in Iraq that read and speak both, we seem to be the first. Go figure? The format of this post will be as follows: we will post the true Arabic version, the translated version, and the actual version from an Arabic translator. Now the first of the three: بغداد(الاخبارية).. كشف نائب محافظ البنك المركزي مظهر محمد صالح عن وجود خواص أمان عالية وذات تقنية متطورة في العملة العراقية الجديدة بعد حذف الأصفار الثلاث منها. وقال صالح (للوكالة الاخبارية للانباء) اليوم الثلاثاء: إن البنك المركزي وصل الى مراحل متقدمة من الاستعدادات اللوجستية المهمة لمشروع حذف الأصفار الثلاث من العملة وبعد استحصال الموافقة من الحكومة الاتحادية على تنفيذه سيكون العمل على نطاق أوسع كونه يعد مشروع ستراتيجي يهم عامة الشعب. وأوضح: أن في حال استحصال الموافقة على تنفيذ المشروع ستتم الاستعانة بشركات دعاية وإعلام لتوعية المواطنين وإعطاءهم التفاصيل الدقيقة لمشروع حذف الأصفار الثلاث وتجيبهم على جميع الأسئلة التي تخص ذلك المشروع. وأشار الى: أن العملة الجديدة ستكون عالمية المواصفات وذات تقنية عالية ومن الصعب جداً تزويرها لأنها تحوي على خواص أمنية كبيرة كونها ستطبع في مطابع دولية حديثة ومتخصصة لطباعة العملات. ووصف صالح: العملة بأنها سلعة ستراتيجية ولابد أن تحوي على مواصفات الطباعة العالمية وعلى شفرات متعددة وذلك حمايةً للأمن الوطني والقومي والاقتصادي كونها مورد الدولة./انتهى/8.د.س/ http://www.ikhnews.com/news_view_33051.html ********************************************** OK now the translated version from Microsoft Translator: Baghdad (newsletter) ... Deputy Central Bank Governor Mohammad Saleh appearance of high security properties and advanced tech in new Iraqi currency after you delete the three zeros. He said Saleh (News Agency news) on Tuesday said that the Central Bank has reached advanced stages of logistic preparations for the task to delete the three zeros from the project currency and after obtaining approval from the Federal Government on its implementation would work more widely as a public interest project staffers. He said that in the event of 18.8 implementation project will use propaganda and media companies to educate citizens and give precise details of the draft deleted three zeros and respond to them all questions specific to that project. Noted: that the new currency will be global specifications and high-tech and very difficult to forge because it contains significant security properties being printed in an international modern and specialized presses to print currency. Description: currency as a commodity strategy must contain print specifications and multiple blades and for the protection of national security and national economic being resource state. Microsoft Translator Link ****************************************** Now here is where the differences comes into play. Here is the actual translation from the Arabic to the English version and it is so much powerful and accurate. < See Post #13 below for Ray's Translation > This translation is awesome. This is the best news yet. I cannot believe what they said. Please remain positive and let Iraq finish wrapping things up. Ray, thank you so much for all you do. Remember, "Silence is golden unless you can improve on it!" I hope you all have a great week and even better weekend. This coming Monday is a holiday for some so enjoy. See you all when I get back. God Bless you all and your families. Steve
  3. This Article Was Just Posted In The News Section And Should Cause Some Excitement ! Masoum describes Preparatory Committee meeting as "Positive" Sunday, 12 February 2012 18:27 Baghdad (AIN) –The head of the Kurdistani Alliance in parliament, Foad Masoum, assured that "The meeting of the Preparatory Committee on Sunday is positive," noting that "The political process might witness a settlement for the current crisis." He stated to All Iraq News Agency (AIN) "All sides agreed upon considering Erbil Agreement as a pre-settled issue," noting that "The blocs also agreed that each bloc should study he proposals of all the blocs." "Some issues are still of debate but there are no conditions set by the blocs during the meeting," he mentioned, confirming that "The proposals of the blocs will be considered and merged into one proposal." The Preparatory Committee of the national meeting finished its meeting and decided to hold its next meeting on next Wednesday. The meeting was attended by The Vice-President, Khudair al-Khuzayi, the Deputy Premier, Ruz Nouri Shawees, the head of the Kurdistani Alliance bloc in the parliament, Foad Masoum, the Head of the Iraqiya Slate in the parliament, Salman al-Jumaili, the representative of the State of Law Coalition, Hasan al-Sinaid, the representative of the Accord Movement, the head of Fadhila bloc, Ammar Tuma, the head of Ahrar bloc, Baha al-Araji, and the head of al-Hal bloc, Ahmed al-Msari, as well as Arshad al-Salihi as a representative of the Turkmen Community. A presidential statement issued on last Sunday night called for a meeting for the Preparatory Committee which involves representatives for the Iraqi National Alliance, the Iraqiya Slate and the Kurdistani Alliance, in Baghdad. The political process witnesses complicated disputes that coincided with the US troops' withdrawal especially between the Iraqiya Slate and the State of Law Coalition when the IS decided to suspend attendance of its MPs to parliament sessions to protest "marginalization and monopolization policies" adopted by the Iraqi government./End/ Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/104933-natl-conference-considering-erbil-as-settled/#ixzz1mCPGiozW B)
  4. As Far As I'm Concerned Its Settled ! C'mon Shabbi + On Wednesday Start The RV Conga Line ! B) Thx for the post Rayzur.
  5. CNN. Broadcasting From The Meeting To Discuss The Meeting For The National Conference. Med says to (05:26:08): OK GOODMORNING DS ALLOT OF NEWS TODAY ON THE PREPARATION FOR THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE WHAT IS EXPECTED TO COME FROM IT THERE IS OIL EXPECTATIONS PARLIAMENT NEWS ON THE BUDGET NEWS THAT TOUCHES MANY ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE RESOLVED IN IRAQ HMMMM OK GOOD MORNING ANYONE HERE ALRIGHTY THEN I WILL COME BACK LATER MED OUT givememick says to (06:36:52): i would like to hear what you have to say about parliments session leadfoot says to (06:36:53): talk to us Med says to (06:36:56): GM TFYOUNG WHAT SESSION I DIDNT KNOW THEY MET YET THEY ARE IN RECESS TILL THE 14TH I ALWAYS TALK LF I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL TRYING TO TRICK ME GIVEMEMICK EH LOL givememick says to (06:38:28): you mentioned that this coming session what needs to be accomplished (few lines up) ... Med says to (06:38:34): OH THAT IS THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE WHICH INCLUDES MORE THAN JUST PARLIAMENT THIS IS SUPPOSE TO BE THE DO ALL TO SETTLE ALL givememick says to (06:39:10): i would never try to trick you i would just do it haha Med says to (06:39:28): THEY ARE PUTTING ALLOT ON THIS FIRST FOR SUCCESS EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT ENTERS THAT DOME HAS TO DO ONE THING KEEP AN OPEN MIND THIS IS NOT ABOUT WHO GETS THE MOST BUT HOW TO REPAIR THE DAMAGE DONE AND GET TO THE PEOPLES BUSINESS CUZ THIS HAS BEEN REDICULOUS AND IT HAS PARALYZED THE COUNTRY FOR GOING ON TWO YEARS THE ELECTIONS WERE TWO YEARS AGO AND SINCE THE UPSET BY ALLAWI AND THEN MALIKI'S BLIND SIDE LEGAL RULING AND THEN 7 MONTHS OF NO GOVT EVERY DIME PAID TO THESE PEOPLE HAS BEEN A TOTAL WASTE OF PUBLIC FUNDS EVERYDIME AND THESE ARE THE HIGHEST PAID POLITICIANS IN THE WORLD IN A PARLIAMENTARY SYSTEM NOW THEY SAY THEY HAVE NEGOTIATED THE ARBIL AGREEMENT AGAIN AND IT IS TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN FULL BUT WHAT IS IN FULL FOR MONTHS THEY SAID 90 % OF IT WAS ALREADY IMPLEMENTED DOES THIS MEAN THAT THE KURDS GET THE HCL THEY SETTLE KIRKUK AND ARTICLE 140 FINALLY IS GOING TO BE RESOLVED AND OR THE LIST DOES THIS MEAN THERE WILL BE A STRATEGIC COUNSEL FOR PLANNING WITH ALLAWI AT THE HEAD AND THAT THEY GET THE SECURITY POSITION CUZ IF THOSE 5 KEYS ARE NOT PART OF IT THEN IT IS NOT BEING IMPLEMENTED IN FULL OK ALL DONE TY tfyoung1 says to (06:47:56): so potentially a big week ahead Med says to (06:48:04): SURE IS here2day says to (06:48:43): these Iraqi politicians for uneducated sure seem to have learned fast how to play the fill your pockets game tfyoung1 says to (06:48:43): thank you Med says to (06:48:57): YES THEY DO HERE2DAY I POSTED AN ARTICLE THIS MORNING SORT OF A SYNOPSIS OF EVENTS THAT HAVE CURSED IRAQ I LIKE HOW THEY TOUCHED ON THE PURCHASING OF EDUCATIONS THEN GETTING A DIPLOMA FOR SOMETHING THEY DID NOT DO givememick says to (06:50:45): what do you think the odds are that they agree on just one of these much less 5/ Med says to (06:50:58): GM GORGEOUS GM CHEEKS UMM GMM WOW NOT EVEN SURE I LIKE THE 50/50 ON EVEN ONE BUT REMEMBER Cheeks says to (06:51:38): loves the info on the history of the dinar Med says to (06:51:39): THEY SAID THIS WAS ALREADY SETTLED YES I DID ALSO CHEEKS BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND Cheeks says to (06:52:03): help new comers Med says to (06:52:06): IT AGAIN HAS NOT BEEN PUT ON PAPER ANOTHER ONE OF THESE VERBAL HANDSHAKE AGREEMENTS
  6. CNN. Broadcasting While Taking Stronger Meds From My New Doctor. Cooked Referred Me To Him. Its Some Guy Named Dr. Conrad Murray ... 2-12-2012 Guru Med THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE WHICH INCLUDES MORE THAN JUST PARLIAMENT. THIS IS SUPPOSE TO BE THE DO ALL TO SETTLE ALL. THEY ARE PUTTING ALLOT ON THIS. THIS IS NOT ABOUT WHO GETS THE MOST BUT HOW TO REPAIR THE DAMAGE DONE. WHAT IS EXPECTED TO COME FROM IT - THERE IS OIL EXPECTATIONS, PARLIAMENT NEWS ON THE BUDGET, NEWS THAT TOUCHES MANY ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE RESOLVED IN IRAQ. 2-10-2012 Guru Med CBI CAN CHANGE THE RATE ...WITH NO PERMISSION BY THE GOI OR PARLIAMENT BUT TO CHANGE THE CURRENCY THEY HAVE TO. SO CBI HAD TO SEND A DRAFT TO THE COUNCIL OF MINISTERS WHO REVIEW IT. IF THEY APPROVE OF THE DRAFT THEN THEY SEND IT TO PARLIAMENT. PARLIAMENT MUST READ A DRAFT TWICE WITHOUT CHANGES. THEN THEY MUST WAIT 4 DAYS TO VOTE ON SAID DRAFT TO MAKE IT OFFICIAL. THE DRAFT BY CBI HAS BEEN READ TWICE THEN FOR SOME REASON IT WENT TO THE PARLIAMENTARY FINANCE COMMITTEE AND IT WAS REVIEWED...APPROVED AND SENT BACK TO PARLIAMENT FOR FINAL VOTE. [Where we are as of today?] WAITING FOR THE VOTE, WAITING FOR THE BUDGET TO PASS THEN WAITING FOR CBI TO CHANGE THE RATE, THAT IS IT. 2-10-2012 Guru Doc The potential rate debate continues is full force. We have heard anywhere from $0.10 to $14. The reality is no one knows for sure. However, Shabibi has publicly indicated three different rates as far as we are aware. These rates are $0.86 (50 dinars = $43), on par with USD (1 dinar = $1) and dinar would be strongest currency in ME (> Kuwait at $3.6). We absolutely maintain anything slightly above Kuwait is ridiculous and nothing but fantasy. However, we continue to believe the Kuwait benchmark will not be the initial rate but a target rate several years out after the initial RV. We base this on the continued statements by several GOI persons indicating parity with the USD. Additionally the USD is the current currency in force and a transition to the dinar at approximately on par with the USD offers a smoother transition. 2-10-2012 Guru Doc studies indicate dedollarizaion will occur around $1.13. Finally a RV around parity and a 2 year progression to the Kuwait range offers the CBI the ability to generate funds from exchanges and basically pay for the RV. RVing immediately at $3+ will be extremely costly. Also the higher the initial RV the lower the money supply will need to be. All in all it makes much more sense from Iraq's perspective to RV around $1. Parliament continues to be the key to make this happen. We wait patiently for them to reconvene. And done is defined as published in the Gazette. Has the budget, Ebril, etc. been published? Everyone knows the real answer amongst the false rumors. We report, you decide.
  7. So Did They Hold Their National Convention Meeting Today Or Was It Postponed ? I Know That There Were Articles This Week Alluding That It Would Be Postponed. I Lost Track During This Weeks Iraqi Hokie Pokie Dance If The Right Foot's In Or If The Right Foot's Out ? :D
  8. The Meeting To Set A Meeting Is Scheduled To Take Place At The Ministry Of Redundancy Ministry ! :D Thx for the post JustNTime.
  9. Yes, He Is CNN's Notorious Water Balloon Assassin ! Coincidentally Elixirbaby Will Mixing Us Drinks At The Post RV Party In Vegas Called "Mind Erasers" - But I Can't Remember Whats In Them ! :D
  10. Thank You To The Mod That Fixed My Subtitle ! U Guys R Da' Bomb ! That's What Happens Sometimes WhenTyping With A Clown Nose + Sequestered In A Straight Jacket! :D
  11. CNN. Broadcasting After Putting Out A 'Contract' On A Rival Clown. He's Now Being Stalked By A Water Balloon Assassin ! The IQD Team Feb. 9, 2012 Highlights/Summary & Replay of CC Conference Call Replay - Feb. 9, 2012 760-569-7699 Pin 769478# Thanks to Mark for the summary Highlights/Summary of Tonights News: Mikes summary on several articles read tonight Favorite Article of the Night Iraq Delays Licensing Round Again Very excited about this article... One of the key sentences in this article was "We have made major changes and amendments on the inital contract that concern the ECONOMIC and CONTRACTURAL terms, and the result was a new model contract" When I saw this article I took it as a negative article at first...dont like to see them changing dates on anything and contracts being put off ... But after reading that sentence...it is really positive..had to read it several times Why does this point to something positive for us? Oil and Gas Law is what we are talking about... This is how they are getting alot of the money that comes into the country definitely this the key to everything that is going on We talked about needing to pass laws for economic and contractural reasons for the RV...they lay out these oil wells or these areas where they think there is going to be gas and they bid on it...they test..figure out how much oil they can get and they pull it out of the ground and they make huge profits doing that to help them pump it..control it and get it going and Iraq makes huge dollars on the sale of the oil This has been delayed and delayed .....you can look at as another delay BUT the reason they did it this time is they had to rewrite the contracts for ECONOMIC and contractural terms Obviously that has something to do with the money and we've talked about things that might need to be done for the RV... they put this down the road a little bit....which gives us a date sometime in the future that if it is tied to any time of an RV happening before that then this contract would not have to be redone You would do this ahead of time so you dont run into problems when something happens and we talked about that. Article that points to the Oil and Gas and having to change something.... Why would you have to change something for economic reasons? In any negotiations you can always adjust the amount you want...the percentages you get and who is getting what...etc but to be rewritten for economic reasons makes me wonder if there is some clause thats in the contract that has to do with currency and how they are going to be paid and what that is going to look like before an RV or after an RV...maybe not in those terms...maybe like "in the event the currency changes we get a bigger percentage....we would want more at that point in time....because there would be more value there etc" I think that is extremely positive - article I had to read twice when I saw that...Thought it was a negative article but after reading ...had to ask myself What would be the commen sense reasons for doing this... Dont like to see contracts being put off.....but after reading why I had to say WOW...very positive They need to start changing things now to get ready for what is happening in the future... Remember what we talked about....The Arab Summit is huge for them ..they need trading partners..remember that...They need all their friends in the Arab world to come and see them at their best Building a shopping mall in one of the provinces that is going to be huge....large mall like in Dallas already putting contracts to do that..now I dont know about you but if my money is not valuable I am not going to pay 50,000 dinars or 500 mill dinars for clothing and TV sets luxury items, etc Sony just signed a contract to come in and open a Sony store..that stuff is not cheap..start thinking in commen sense terms that this is moving in the right direction...stop looking for the date and when...look at those positive things happening on a daily basis in the country and ASK yourself this question...Can they support this if they have NO value in their currency?....and the answer has to be NO... Poor people are not going out buying luxury items....they are worried about feeding themselves The things that are going in are luxury items - When you start seeing these type of things happening..there has to be some sort of community to support that when these things are done....You have to start pushing forward getting some value..getting them use to that kind of money..so they can figure out their what their discretionary income is so that they can go out and afford those things... Great articles about Automobile loans for the people.....3 other articles about cars...Energy plants...so many others we read about today...housing Loans being offered interest free and includes all citizens...giving back to the citizens...15 yr mortgages...and be able to pay these off with no interest....Positive signs of a country which tells us they are moving forward and should make you feel safe with your investment Mike Recaps and summarizes tonights news: Definitely moving in the right direction Nothing bad out there... Read about some positive things about some of the contracts being negotiated for ECONOMIC reasons Citizens getting homes interest free Shopping malls and hotels being built.... All the companies going in there - Sony and so many other deals Constitution being ready to go and all that being in the right direction and making sure they keep that all implemented and keep that moving in the right direction The 140 seems ready to go Moving in a very good positive direction..maybe an inch at a time but they are going forward Like we said before...CBI is done Looks like they just need to get to this National Meeting and they need to hammer out their differences and get themselves to a point where they can come out of this thing really looking like some champs when it is all done Thats what we are looking forward over the next few days...just to make sure that these things go thru and they start to follow thru with the things they are doing and once we get that all sorted out....everything will fall into place ..it will do what it needs to do If they take care of their business .. Dr Shabibi will take care of his business and once they announce their fully seated government and they are all unified....its the its the perfect time before that National Meeting to do that AND then lots of good things can happen Very good progress..Positive things going on guys....If we take ourselves off the roller coaster ride and start to look at all the positive things going on and not get caught up on exactly when...when... when..then we can start to see these things getting done and understand that they need to do what they need to do in the time that they are going to do it and there is not a darn thing anyone can do to make them make it go any quicker Other than Mr Talabani he is doing his best to push them in the right direction At some point in time at the end of this race it will go very quickly...happen quickly and we wil shake our heads and go WOW...We will be at the Finish Line Deb Reads Her Favorite article of the day: FOR THE VETERANS: White House to host a Military Dinner Feb 29 hosted by President Obama and the 1st Lady to mark the end of the Iraq War... "This dinner, an expression of the nation's gratitude for the achievments and enormous sacrifices of the brave Americans who served in the Iraqi war and of the families who supported them...."You have been there every step of the way, serving with honor, sacrificing greatly, from the first waves of the invasion to the troops coming home" "So as your Commander-in-Chief, and on behalf of a grateful nation, I'm proud to finally say these two words and I know your families agree: WELCOME HOME" And the IQD Team thanks you also and gives you the recognition you so deserve....Hats off to all of you and your families...Thank you for all of your sacrifices.....We Welcome You Home. The I.Q.D. Team, Ltd.'s News Articles Coverage for Tuesday, Feb. 9, 2012 Central Bank: The rise of the dollar bubble just go away quickly and can be easily controlled Kurdish paper includes oil and gas law - MP Papers discuss the political blocs next Sunday Iraq Delays Licensing Round Again Vice Posted: paper work will be renamed the Iraqi Minister of Defense and the remainder of the Convention on Arbil Hakim receives Ambassador of Kuwait and looking him overcome the obstacles in front of the outstanding issues Kurdish leader: the initiative of President Talabani's last chance to save Iraq Sprayed direct housing loans to citizens and interest-free White House to Host Military Dinner Marking End of Iraq War NEWS ARTICLES LINK What a great night of news, analysis and discussion and Q & A ...listen to the call for all the rest of the news shared....we are getting closer every day......GET R DONE
  12. CNN. Broadcasting While Hiding Behind The Curtains At This Weekends Iraqi National Conference ! drpatton says to (05:28:08): I cant make heads or tails out of all this where are we on our investment Med says to (05:29:08): drpatton GM YOU CANT HAVE YOU BEEN AWAY CUZ IT REALLY ISNT THAT DIFFICULT WHAT DO YOU WANT TO KNOW I HAVE TIME JUST ASK I WILL TRY TO HELP YOU OUT IF I CAN drpatton says to (05:31:41): IM real yes vIET NAM UR UNIT YES BACK EAST I NO WERE IN THE SECOND PHASE BUT WHATS THAST Med says to (05:32:15): OK DR SIT BACK OK I USE THE KISS PRINCIPLE drpatton says to (05:32:28): OK Med says to (05:32:41): AND I WILL EXPLAIN SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND I MAY LAY SOME GROUND WORK OK SO BE PATIENT IS THAT OK BUT I AM NOT GOING BACK FAR ... drpatton says to (05:33:22): I NO WHAT KISS IS BUT IM NOT STUPID Med says to (05:33:37): NEVER SAID YOU WERE STUPID DID I BUT I ALWAYS USE THE SAME PRINCIPLE SO IT IS ALWAYS IN LAYMANS TERMS I AM ONLY GOING BY YOUR STATEMENT OF NOT KNOWING WHERE WE ARE SO DO YOU WANT ME TO CONTINUE drpatton says to (05:36:06): I READ THE FORUMS BUT I CANNOT MAKE HEADS OR TAILS Med says to (05:36:24): OK SIT BACK drpatton says to (05:36:31): YES PLEASE Med says to (05:36:42): FIRST NONE OF US REALIZED JUST HOW MUCH WAS INVOLVED SINCE CBI SAID LONG AGO THEY WERE READY WELL APPARENTLY NOT YES CBI CAN CHANGE THE RATE AT WILL WITH NO PERMISSION BY THE GOI OR PARLIAMENT BUT TO CHANGE THE CURRENCY THEY HAVE TO SO CBI HAD TO SEND A DRAFT OR BILL LIKE IN OUR CONGRESS TO THE COUNCIL OF MINISTERS WHICH IS A GROUP OF MPS WHO REVIEW IT IF THEY APPROVE OF THE DRAFT THEN THEY SEND IT TO PARLIAMENT PARLIAMENT MUST READ A DRAFT TWICE WITHOUT CHANGES THEN THEY MUST WAIT 4 DAYS TO VOTE ON SAID DRAFT TO MAKE IT OFFICIAL THE DRAFT BY CBI HAS BEEN READ TWICE LAST ONE JUST BEFORE WINTER BREAK NOW THEN FOR SOME REASON IT WENT TO THE PARLIAMENTARY FINANCE COMMITTEE AND IT WAS REVIEWED FOR QUITE AWHILE IT WAS THEN APPROVED AND SENT BACK TO PARLIAMENT FOR FINAL VOTE drpatton says to (05:40:01): I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT YOU EXPLAINED ALL THAT A COUPLE TEARS AGO AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR BTIMES Med says to (05:40:22): LIKE I SAID I WAS GOING TO LAY THE GROUND WORK SO SIT BACK AND CAN YOU GO TO SMALL LETTERS drpatton says to (05:40:59): OK THANKS Med says to (05:41:16): OK SO I WILL SKIP WHAT DO YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW drpatton says to (05:41:50): Where we are as of today Med says to (05:41:58): WAITING FOR THE VOTE WAITING FOR THE BUDGET TO PASS THEN WAITING FOR CBI TO CHANGE THE RATE THAT IS IT drpatton says to (05:42:53): Ok su im not that far off in my thoughts Med says to (05:43:20): NO YOU ARE NOT IF THAT IS HOW YOU UNDERSTOOD IT IT IS DOWN TO THE NITTY GRITTY
  13. CNN. Broadcasting While Licking A Chalkboard. We Couldn't Find An Eraser ! 2-10-2012 Guru Doc Several have suggested that the proposed 2012 budget currently being debated does in fact hint to a RV rate in the upper $3+ range. This is assumed by taking the budget of 115 trillion dinar and dividing it by the assumed total dinar of around 30 trillion. Unfortunately this is not how budget or RV value works. The budget is simply an accounting of the expenses of the GOI to operate the country. 2-10-2012 Guru Doc The revenues coming in to pay for these expenses is from oil and the budget assumes 2.6 million barrels/day at $85. Doing the math we calculate revenue to be $81 billion. Now we apply an exchange rate of 1170 dinar/$ and revenues are about 95 trillion dinar or about 20 trillion less than expenses. However in the budget they stated there was around a 20 trillion shortfall and it would be made up from reserves. Simply put the budget being debate right now assumes a 1170 exchange rate. The question is do they have a second budget ready to present post RV? We would be shocked if they did not. 2-9-2012 Guru Randy Koonce I hope everyone realizes it didn’t RV here or in another country...guys, they can’t do it that way...And don’t fall for the banks waiting for the numbers to drop in...it’s not happening…go check CBI, it’ll change that first. National Conference...the newspaper said they changed the name…it’s the National Meeting now. We believe is an important meeting…basically our opinions and shortly after that we’ll see the ministers show up. There’s not going to be an RV until the ministers show up first. That’s a requirement for Shabibi…he wants a complete government...no ministers = no RV. 2-10-2012 Guru Randy Koonce There’s no argument with the budget – 10 cents won’t even give them the dinar for their annual budget in US dollars…the total revenue for Iraq is 26 billion dollars…they want to come out with 89.1 billion dollars (not dinar)…if they say we want our currency to be worth 10cents…that’s only 2.6 billion dinar….they don’t meet the budget. 1:1 – they’re still short…they’re 3 x short. The easiest way to see this – divide 26 billion into 89.1 = rate...3.41 – that’s it. A managed float...that’s what they have to come out with! Have to! 2-9-2012 Guru 8Ball Iraq is a new economy which can prop up countries which need an injection of capital. Iraq is kind of the center of the currency RV’s, one feeding the other...We are definitely headed to a major event...the RV will feed the system...The news seems to lead 15th.
  14. When Is The National Conference ? And Please Don't Say "Soon" ! :D Thx for the post RSS.
  15. CNN. Broadcasting From The Baghdad Brickyard '500' During The NASCAR Camel Races. A Major Bruhaha Has Erupted In The Pit Area When Maliki's Camel Spat On Allawi ! 2-8-2012 Guru Doc are all ministers seated, is the budget passed, are the supporting RV laws passed, and is Erbil done? The real answer is NO. When it is complete it will be in the media and in the Gazette. Yes, great progress is being made. We just need the GOI and Parliament to close the deal. Parliament announced Monday it would adjourn until February 14 due to lack of quorum. The good news is they seem to cut back room deals very well even when not in session so hopefully when they do reconvene it will be a simple matter of voting. The bad news is no laws will be passed until February 14. DO NOT look for the RV this week or this weekend. It is also highly probably it will not happen next week. Continue to watch for the passage of key laws into March. We report, you decide. 2-8-2012 Newshound Guru Bondlady lets all try to stay grounded and know were in such exciting times per this investment, all thru the years these articles weve been seeing comming out every day we could only dream of seeing these kinds of actual news pieces, hcl, art. 140, ch 7. dinar cbi articles so many many positives, remember were seeing democracy being born in iraq, there 1st shot at freedom and a free country, things have never apeared better in all these years in this investment, hopefully we will be able to enjoy our own forms of freedom soon. 2-8-2012 Guru Mailman17 THE SHEER MAGNITUDE OF WHAT IS INVOLVED IS NOW COMING OUT. LETS ALL STAY FOCUSED AND POSITIVE AND FOLLOW THE NEWS...AND LETS HOPE THEY EITHER GET THE BUDGET PASSED ALONGSIDE THE BILLS NEEDED OR AT LEAST THE BILLS NEEDED...TILL THEN...WE WAIT...THERE WAS MORE INVOLVED THAN JUST US GOING TO THE BANK. 2-8-2012 Newshound Guru Mike We know the budget is ready to vote on next week and move forward next week...14th is a day talked about when Parliament is back in session...We have movement on ministers...getting ready to vote on that possibly on the 14th...they have a list...Maliki may end up getting the security minister and somebody else will get Interior...but they will come to a resolution on that and move that forward, very very important.
  16. CNN. Broadcasting From The Baghdad Brickyard During The NASCAR Camel Races. We've Got A Caution Flag Out For An 8 Camel Pileup In Turn #3 ! Thug Note: This 1st Article Is Already Posted In The DV News Section By Yota With A Couple Of Pages Of Comments. The Article Was Posted After The Call + Isn't Discussed In The Summary. (Post by Debbie, The IQD Team) Parties that have signed the Convention on the Arbil is ready to announce it to the media Wednesday, February 8, 2012 11:28 Baghdad {: News} Euphrates MP for the coalition of state law on the Keywords that political parties that have signed the Convention on the Arbil is ready to announce the content of the Convention to the media. The political blocs took place in Erbil in late 2010 on an agreement under which an end to the dispute between the National Alliance and the Iraqi List, about the consistence of the formation of the government included several items. And he said: Agency News} {Euphrates on Wednesday that "the political leaders who signed the agreement Erbil more than once expressed their willingness announce the terms of Irbil to the Iraqi people that these items do not include political leaders feared something to say about him." He added that "all political blocs familiar with the agreement of Arbil and achieved most of its articles and has remained a small part of its debate taking place in the corridors of the judiciary and the government and the House of Representatives." He emphasized that "the National Alliance carried out all its obligations to the Convention and by this more than once confirmed its strong commitment to it." Some of the deputies pointed to the existence of secret agreements within the Erbil Convention has not disclosed the leaders of political blocs and demanded that the announcement of those agreements to the Iraqi people. http://www.alforatnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6188:2012-02-08-08-23-43&catid=36:2011-04-08-17-25-25&Itemid=54 The IQD Team Feb. 7, 2012 Highlights/Summary & Replay of CC Conference Call Replay - Feb. 7, 2012 [/url] 760-569-7699 Pin 769478# Thanks to Mark for the summary Highlights/Summary of Tonights News: Mike Recaps and summarizes tonights news CBI What did we learn tonight We know that the Central Bank is in a very good position They have taken control of their auctions once again They are telling everyone they are now Basel Compliant.....as they trump it - 60 billion in reserves The CBI has plenty of money to manage its currency..they are out there doing what a Central Bank does buying and selling the currency - they are making sure they know who they are buying and selling from the auction thing is the most exciting thing for me....because now they know who they are....these auctions are electronic....so there electronic banking system is in pretty good shape if they know who's what where when and how Traders on border of Iran don't want to take the Iranian money anymore in trading for dollars They were making good money giving them dollars and trading for the Iranian money and dinars and keeping those Now they are smartening up Banks are starting to get wind of whats going on and the street vendors are no longer wanting to hoard those dollars They want them to have respect for the dinar and use the dinar CBI is ready...have not heard anything negative from CBI for the last several months...saying here we are... WE ARE READY TO HIT THE FINISH LINE with this and MOVE FORWARD.. They are doing what their function is - To be the CBI and to manage their economy and manage their money - they have a plan and they are moving forward with it Government Parliament....long discussion tonight about the arguing...talking...differences and why they are there.. Learned today ...Cabinet which is Malikis 3 presidents basically the formation of the Erbil how it is dividing up the power sharing which is the most important part is his cabinet to get things done have all came back together.. Talabani has said we are going to handle all of our outstanding problems by using the constitution.....able to get concessions and move people forward.....huge concession on Hashemi whose going to be in the justice side of things.. He got some guarantees that they are going to go ahead and he will get a fair trial...We maybe have not heard the end of that..still maybe a sticking point ...but they are going to use the constitution - everybodys afraid of its going to like Saddam....point the finger...put in prison and get killed....and they dont want that...they dont want anyone to have that kind of power We know the budget is ready to vote on next week and move forward next week...14th is a day talked about when Parliament is back in session... .... We have movement on ministers...getting ready to vote on that possibly on the 14th.. they have a list...we talked about how that maybe a 50/50 split....Maliki may end up getting the security minister and somebody else will get Interior...but they will come to a resolution on that and move that forward very very important Push is to get themselves ready and show they have a very working government for the Arab Conference because they need trading partners....they need to show people that they can be a government that can trade with people and do the things they need to do because they have Iran and Syria that have sanctions and they do a lot of business with those people and they need to replace those business partners with people who are functioning as normal business partners with the world that are not under sanctions...You see articles they dont want these sanctions on Iran because they trade with them...almost like they fear alot of shutting down all of that trade without having another trade partner so they have been kinda on the outskirts of this Thats why the Arab Summit Conference is going to be so important for them Then theres the National Conference we hear about....which is the Political convention - that is probably either they are voting on a place for this to go and my feelings tells me this is part of the process of the political convention that they are going to have.....thats going to be the last part in the next week and a half...Last part where they come together as a team and decide the future of Iraq and where they are going I have a feeling at the end of that they will announce their government at that point in time...perfect opportunity for them...will be looking for that...I am not saying thats going to happen... but will be looking for that. VERY POSITIVE NEWS...if you didnt hear the beginning of the call listen to the beginning - I spoke about where we are at and how to keep yourself stable in this investment and all that you hear..........remember what we talked about - please use your common sense rule out there when reading articles and hearing things....articles put out some nonsense but there are juicy bits and pieces in articles you read - have them pass the common sense rule and if we see them in a couple of different news sources.....grab those and have them pass the common sense rule we can make sense of whats going on.... Moving in a positive direction.... be patient....Nothing negative out there.... Don't shut out the flowers...they will grow.....just water them and take care of them... PULL THE WEEDS...that just came to me..... Be careful of the things you plant...if you plant them - cultivate them - make sure they dont get out of control and I think that is whats going on with the government....taking time and taking baby steps and the villains we think are are probably not and vice versa Allawi is no angel himself...he has his own agenda on what he wants to do...very driven by what they want to do they have Sadr on their side...they are very much individualists and want to be their own country and dont really want to place nice with the rest of the world because we have the oil and we want to be part of this cartel that can say what we want Maliki has been put in there by us and has power ambitions but really would like to make sure noone gets into power that can do all that...meanwhile he looks like he is trying to become a dictator in it all and then you have Talabani...that comes in and knows how to put the pieces together and get everybody talking and moving in the right direction (Go Talabani!!!) He is the guy I am going to keep my eye on him to see what he is going to do...before this is all over he is the one that will be huge in making sure Iraq comes out on top when this is all over and done with. The I.Q.D. Team, Ltd.'s News Articles Coverage for Tuesday, Feb. 7, 2012 The Central Bank underlines the lack of assignment instructions for the last auction on the financial Iraq: al-Mutlaq, the issue of "personal" is on its way to the solution Parliamentary Finance: the budget ready for vote Iraq to Award $3 Billion in Power-Plant Projects This Month Headlines: Iraqi businessmen shy away from Iranian currency Iraq's Sunni-backed ministers return to Cabinet Keywords: Paper of the National Alliance included all outstanding issues between the political blocs, notably the dispute between Baghdad and Erbil Tohme: National Alliance and Talabani are ready for any proposal that would resolve the crisis Muhammad Al-Khalidi: share of the Iraqi defense is not entitled to a nomination instead Iraq's leaders are turning to solve their problems before the Arab summit in Baghdad NEWS ARTICLES LINK What a great night of news, analysis and discussion and Q & A ...listen to the call for all the rest of the news shared....we are getting closer every day......GET R DONE
  17. Thx for the post kcw and Thx for Another Informative Chat Adam ! U Gave Us Alot To Think About So I'm Gonna Put On My "Thinking Cap" And Try To Enjoy The Rest Of This Race ...
  18. 48 Hours ? Are They Getting Eddie Murphy ? :D Thx for the post Carrello.
  19. CNN. Broadcasting In Silent Mode With Our Loudest Mimes. We Now Take U To The Situation Room With BluWolf Blitzer ... 2-7-2012 Guru Bluwolf all i will say is that everything seems to be on track, no delays, and something should come into play shortly, please keep in mind that we are still in silent mode. 2-6-2012 Guru TonyTNT The recertifications if thats what we are waiting on is a very short period of time. The other thing is security issues of banks around the world and all can be solved by thursday. Banks are getting extra security at the banks again. Saturday people in Iraq , contractors, banks were instructed to have all their paperwork and loans restructured within 48 hours, this was the best news I've heard in a long time. I beleive there is no way we are getting the rate we are getting without it being pegged to the GBP and the last rate I'm hearing as of today is between $5 and $8 dollars. I think it will be an RV. We are just waiting to see the rate. 2-6-2012 Guru Footforward I hope most of you understand that silence is golden. and there is a reason why most of us arent saying anything and if we are saying anything, its very general in tone. there is a reason for that.
  20. He Has Crystal Balls ? Thats Clearly Nuts ! :D
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