The Original Spike

I know you can look up the chip info on YouTube, it has excerpts from either 20/20 or 60 minutes on it. Anyway...

Mmmmmmm.... I forgot what the site was but there has been a lot of underhanded stuff going on as far as legislation goes. I understand where we might be forced to fight for our freedom sooner than you think. I understand why people are setting up their 'special' hunting camps. I worked for an airline in Dallas on the ground for years, ran into a fella on the tram that works for a 'chipping' company. I was joking about our CEO contracting their company about chipping all the employees, he looked me straight in the eye and said don't laugh, soon all people working in security labeled areas will have to be chipped to be able to work in a security sensitive area. I told him good luck with that, I guess I'll be tweaking the resume. Then I found out later that Obama, pushed by Kisinger has signed legislation to have us all chipped by 2016. Kind of crazy, but I'm sure you can Google it. We are all considered assets and all have a million dollar insurance policy taken out against our birthcertificates that in turn are used as collateral against American national debt, mostly held by the Chinese. Crazy stuff I know, but they will have to kill me before chipping me. I'm not really a conspiracy type of person, but there is a lot of crazy stuff going on behind the scenes. One of my buddies just got back from Spain and said he saw the chip already being used a lot at clubs over there. They have a VIP line for them. We are already utilizing the technology for workers in many of our Nuclear power plants over here. Scary stuff....

My understanding is they deal directly with the CBI, so we would actually be using them to cash out through the CBI. They will make loads off of us at charging $150.00 per million. So yes, I think it would be a lucrative endeavor for them.

You know what, I am bigger than my brash, reactive, negative comments Thor. I am not usually reactionary. It has been a long day. I am sorry for my reaction. I should not post after dealing with the ex. The next time I'm in Omaha, depending on what part of Iowa you are in, I would like to by you a beer. I just had the discussion and thought it might be good to post and maybe save some people some unneeded grief in the future, no matter how stupid it may have come across. I just don't wish to see any more bad things happen to good people if it can make them do a little preparation before they jump, that is all. So once again, peace and goodnight.

Good point.

Thor, I know you are from Iowa and all, but dude, move south and get rid of some of that surely attitude, it's not a becoming characteristic. No one likes a smart__s. All I was trying to do is to let people to look into what ever they decide to do before they do it. This should answer what I was trying to point out Bane

Our banks in the US are under the Bush mandated legislation. If they sell, they have to honor. It's just places like Canada, England, Austria, ect... If it becomes tradeable on the open market, no problems. And no, they won't spend the resources to go door to door. All I'm saying is if they do something crazy and try to pull an in country type of RV without a Forex bid, don't try to take it in to a bank before you know what is going on. Just saying do a little recon on your investment before showing up flush outside of the states, that was all.

There not illegal in the US or Iraq, just every place else.

I'm ready to take a few hits but felt this aught to be brought up. I was told today by my investment friends over coffee today that we should have no problems cashing stateside when this does go down because of the Bush legislation. I was also told that anyone outside the US or Iraq should be careful when it comes time to cash in because it is illegal to hold dinar outside the US and Iraq at this current time. (Check to make sure dinars are not being confiscated outside of the US or Iraq when it comes time to cash in!) Ali and the other brokers would be good to check in with to get the up to date info. I don't want to see anyone get burned after we all have been waiting on this RV to take place.(CYA!) Just something to keep in mind. I don't want to see anyone to lose out. Granted, once it hits the Forex, this will most probably become a mute observation, but better safe than sorry, and may we all be able to move foward with this. Peace.

Thank you!

Yeah, wow, I just posted a conversation I just had with one of my buddies, I guess there are a few banks getting these machines.... That's got to mean something, I'm kinda getting a little tingley! LOL... I know it's still a waiting game, but these machines coming in does sound positive.

Just got off the phone with one of my broker buddies, he works for Merrill Lynch. He was telling me what we already know about the banks trying to be discrete about their purchase of the De La Rue machines. We have another buddy on the board of a SFO bank, which he had called earlier in the week, and although it is a small bank, they have purchased several of these machines. I asked my broker buddy what he thought all of this meant, he told me that he was told it is just better to be prepared. I asked if he had heard anything directly, and he stated it is all still very quiet. We are still waiting for the rate, but most importantly, for the dinar to be released for active trade on the Forex markets. Just a side note, I asked where he thought we would come in at? He stated he thought it would come in high to minimize wild speculation buying of the dinar at that point. It would be in Iraqs best interest, but they seem to do everything in an unconventional manner, so who knows how this will all go down, we all just feel it is very close. He also told me he has been suprised it has stayed in a static state up to this point. If someone wishes to expand on what a static state means, please do, don't quite knew what he meant by that, but assumed he just meant it hasn't moved in a positive or negative direction as of yet. My question is this, is there any way to get a fairly accurate guestimate of how many of these machines we may have stateside, and what are there aproximate cost per unit?

Good stuff brother... Yeah, it's been so quiet where I'm at, you could hear the proverbial pin drop. The people I drop questions too have said things have been overly quiet in their areas of expertise as well. Everyone is still optimistic, but have nothing new, so it's good to see something that alludes to foward movement.

I'm just ready to see it actively traded....

A) It all boils down to a simple case of "ethics". The traveler had his money stolen then given back without knowing about it. The owner of the hotel also paid his debt with the money that he had no way of knowing whether it would make the full circle back to the hotel. In a realistic senerio, there's no way that money could move around town and get back before the traveler came back down stairs after looking at the rooms.

Definitely a good post! Gave ya a +, good stuff.

Their currency has to become (viable) in order to be traded. Their currency will rise quickly on the currency exchanges when it becomes a truly live currency. I don't believe they will let it float without parameters because that would mean losing control of the value for the newly recognized government. Without parameters put on their currency, (i.e., RI/RV), you create an inflated market for the dinar in its future, thus translating into inflation in the counrty they are so proud to say they very little of. They want inflation to be kept low I assure you. If a country wants to be internationally recognized, it has to have its own credible currency. If they were to move to something like the Euro, they would have to assess the value of their current currency in order to faze it out. I don't see them changing their whole currency structure. Bottom line, if you want to move foward and you want the worlds help in doing it, you need a viable, tradeable currency. Going back to a dictatorship would be the only way I could see them not assigning a standard starting point for their currency. The parameters may be set low at the initial onset of an accessed value to the dinar, for instance .28 and allowed to float from their where the market would decide what it feels the value to truly be. It can do nothing but increase in value. An internationally recognized, supposed new democratic state has to have a currency that is internationally recognized and tradeable on the open market. Welcome to the free market!

Smee2... it must have been a preminission, it's only been listed on the board of the Forex for around a week. Also, a lot of peoples personal experiences start sounding redundant after a while. That happened to be my experience for my day... It's not a conspiracy, or dates or rates, just what I took to be good signs worth sharing... It was only meant to add a positive note. Instead of trying to debunk, why not call one of your broker friends and ask what they think about the dinar being listed for the first time ever on the open market and what they think it means in reference to the future of the dinar being traded... Sheeesh...

The FedEx guys know something when they make a delivery and have to collect a a money order to give you your package. Mine asked what I kept having delivered. If they deliver several times and collect money, they know you are getting something of value. I made a point not to tell how much was mine and how much was the families. I also made a point to let him know it was being moved to a safe deposit box. I couldn't have him asking questions in my apartment hallway. Safety is always good and was observed. It's amazing where a basic post of info can go and how far it can get from its original subject matter. Here's to just hoping the RV happens soon...

I am sorry... I did not mean to get you guys fighting... I just wanted to share a bit of introspective light... and my experience.

I don't know about all of that. The way I see it, people hit the lotto every day some where. Most are broke within a couple of years. They stimulate the economy with their wreckless spending. It will be up to us, when the time comes, to be responsable with our new found wealth. I personally will build a trust, invest and have the interest as a suplimentary income. This will allow me to see my two kids more frequently and set them up for their future, college, weddings, reliable vehicles and pay off my many bills and school loans. Just a pipe dream at this point still, but one that is coming closer to fruitation. I have not been invested for 7 years, but have been invested for a while. I don't hold a huge amount, but know what little I have will suffice. The return will help me and many others get out of our proverbial holes and may move us a little or a large step foward. This bodes well for the economy by allowing many of us to have a reset button that may have never come before this. Many of us will buy houses, pay off school loans, ect... I don't see where this could be a bad thing for our economy. We still need manufacturing jobs to move away from primarily being a natural resource exporter, but I don't see where this could be anything other than a good thing for this country. Just be glad that others may be able to take care of postponing a future tax hike with this investment paying off. I personally would like to see as many hard working people hit a lick to help their personal situations that all seem to have more of than any time in history at this point. Although my intent was not to debate the short commings of this investment, just that we are close. I'm sorry that you and others have waited for 7 years. I'm sorry that it has caused some to become jaded. I really don't see where my FedEx guy and a few of his coworkers holding around 250k of Dinar apiece will hurt you investment. In any event, I wish you well.

My brother thought I aught to post this in Rumors also, he told me he was tired of reading so much trash and that this was valid info. He is invested too and reads our boards. Alt.'s, put this wherever you feel it most belongs, I brouse more than anything now... "The few people I know that are involved with banks are all invested in the dinar now, even the ones that are sceptics, they say they are subscribing to the "What if scenerio". The FedEx dilervery guys that would bring my orders are invested now. They all don't want to be left out if and when this thing takes off. (This whole thing can do nothing but move foward.) We have seen the dinar hit the Forex for the first time ever being listed, although it is listed, it is yet to be traded on the open market. This, whether it's a dirty float, ect., when it does truely go live, will be the biggest hurdle yet. I was talking to a couple of my broker buddies yesterday, and they said there is no way they would put a currency on the open board of the Forex and let it sit without it being active for very long. I asked what were their thoughts? They told me they didn't think it could stay inactive for more than a month. I asked could it be pulled? They told me anything is possible, but not likely. I was told that most probably, the Forex was cautious about listing the Dinar until they had done a full spectrum of research and evaluated all perameters before listing it. (They would not list it unless they plan on trading it, basic comon since.) As far as floats ect., anything is possible, it's anybodys guess. I also went to my old bank yesterday to ask some questions, not so much about anything other than a no interest account that would be covered by the FDIC, (my just in case scerinios'). This was a weird experience, I was first asked about where my funds would be coming from if I didn't mind giving an explanation and how much was I expecting to be depositing. I told them it could be anywhere from tens of thousands to millions, I really didn't know at this point. Before long, a few big wigs from upstairs were downstairs wanting to know more about the investment. I explained what my idea is on everything and why I'm invested. It turned out that a few of them had made money on Kuait, penny stocks, BP and a few other investments. As I left, I was told, "see ya soon". The bank is Arvest in Little Rock, AR. Do I read anything extra into this? No. I just look at the laws of basic economics, an RI/RV has to take place soon. All the added economics and other countries needing this RI/RV as much as Iraq is just icing on the cake. I just think it's great not have people looking at this as such a crapshoot any more. All in all, I'm ready... "

I brouse more than anything now... The few people I know that are involved with banks are all invested in the dinar now, even the ones that are sceptics, they say they are subscribing to the "What if scenerio". The FedEx dilervery guys that would bring my orders are invested now. They all don't want to be left out if and when this thing takes off. (This whole thing can do nothing but move foward.) We have seen the dinar hit the Forex for the first time ever being listed, although it is listed, it is yet to be traded on the open market. This, whether it's a dirty float, ect., when it does truely go live, will be the biggest hurdle yet. I was talking to a couple of my broker buddies yesterday, and they said there is no way they would put a currency on the open board of the Forex and let it sit without it being active for very long. I asked what were their thoughts? They told me they didn't think it could stay inactive for more than a month. I asked could it be pulled? They told me anything is possible, but not likely. I was told that most probably, the Forex was cautious about listing the Dinar until they had done a full spectrum of research and evaluated all perameters before listing it. (They would not list it unless they plan on trading it, basic comon since.) As far as floats ect., anything is possible, it's anybodys guess. I also went to my old bank yesterday to ask some questions, not so much about anything other than a no interest account that would be covered by the FDIC, (my just in case scerinios'). This was a weird experience, I was first asked about where my funds would be coming from if I didn't mind giving an explanation and how much was I expecting to be depositing. I told them it could be anywhere from tens of thousands to millions, I really didn't know at this point. Before long, a few big wigs from upstairs were downstairs wanting to know more about the investment. I explained what my idea is on everything and why I'm invested. It turned out that a few of them had made money on Kuait, penny stocks, BP and a few other investments. As I left, I was told, "see ya soon". The bank is Arvest in Little Rock, AR. Do I read anything extra into this? No. I just look at the laws of basic economics, an RI/RV has to take place soon. All the added economics and other countries needing this RI/RV as much as Iraq is just icing on the cake. I just think it's great not have people looking at this as such a crapshoot any more. All in all, I'm ready...

I'm with you dirtman... ???? Very odd indeed...

I agree... Not enough gold at our disposal to return to the gold standard. The reason the IRS, which is indirectly attached to the Federal reserve, was sent to Porterico was so they didn't have to be bound by U.S. law. It is partially why Porterico has remained a territory and has not become a state. This essentially makes the IRS unconstituitional. My father was a Secret Service Agent. As for Homeland Security, they will go no where soon. It's like the DEA and the war on drugs, they were only supposed to exist for a short period of time, but pensions would have been jeopardized, not to mention jobs and another source of income that the government is able to derive from illegal drug activity on our streets. My solutions would be in the tax payers best interest, but would be considered politically incorrect. We have become a nation of political special interest groups and PC nonsense. We focus on things that may warrant some lip service, but tend to ignore the big picture at the detriment of the majority. Would I trade my country for another? Definitely not. We are still arguably the greatest country in the world, we have just allowed to many rats to board our proverbial ship we all are riding on, the U.S.. We sink or swim as a nation, we just have to find a way to get rid of the over abundance of rats we find ourselves having to step over. We need to truly reestablish the rights of the individual as it would also pertain to the whole. Now that I'm done with those thoughts God bless our service men and women, all of those in need and may the RV come soon for all of us.