waveone

As the ad states, selling 7million dinar , all uncirculated notes. 25million IQD notes - $880.00 per million 5million IQD notes- $920 per million Feel free to PM me or email at waveone@sbcglobal.net Terms are USPS MO only, mailed 2nd day air.

Typical punk answer. I don't need someone else to inform me of what I already know through simply reading and a little research. Nice attempt at cherry picking though In a very narrow sense I agreed with your assessment. In another wherein you persistently argue in ignorance, I disagreed. Basel Agreements are theatre at worst or "hollow" attempts at establishing common and equitable protocols at best. IN fact the BIS which is essentially controlled by the US, like the IMF has obviously perpetuated this farce. Those things stated, are irrelevant in my opinion because bankers both international and domestic will exploit the system and continue to fleece the masses no matter what. Oh, and your quips about countries being evaluated and thus weighted via their assets will be dead wrong. In one sense it already is -which is why governments- or more appropriately Central Banks hold gold in reserve. The next phase could include their natural resources. Clearly your didn't read what I typed. You either disregarded it or it sailed miles over your head. I'm betting the latter...and um.... L O L......

Typical drive- by from this individual, read .........."cl-wn" For the record I do not believe in Nesara- or at least to the degree that it has been embellished. Nor do I believe it is the lynch pin to this investment or any other investment. That is nonsense along the same lines that keepm (-lol and all that)....and his ilk seize on stupid speak about the money supply. That is as big a fable as Nesara and just as wrong. For starters anyone who doubts this should do more research starting with the USD, it's money supply, the nature of fiat and how it came into existence. This will require work because it's stated purpose, is akin to the 2 sets of books all or most governments keep ie Enron ie Madoff ie JP Morgan ad infinitum. Technically what keepm states is true , as per usual he shows his ignorance grounded on a solid bed of naivete'of the financial mkts . Basil agreements , specifically the Basil III is about common compliance and liquidity protocols of all banks . That is the definition in it's simplest form. Basil III also requires a small increase in risk weighted assets(ie read real value- ie some form of commodity other than fiat). While all currencies are in fiat form , none has become more egregious nor usurpacious than our beloved USD. Make no mistake that common protocol is where we as an international community are headed. SDR's are very real and will become more prominent as The Standard than they are now. Then we will have a single form of currency, though it may not be promulgated as such and therefore packaged as a regional SDR which derives it's value from a Standard Currency somewhat like the USD and what it once symbolized. Ultimately, paper money will go away. At least that is the goal. It 's all about control and getting all the cows to go through the same gate. If there is no paper money and/or severe restrictions on hard assets/barter then people must comply with the Corporate Philosophy which is and will be comply or else. The information is pout there and it is verifiable. Yet it will require perseverance, discernment. No one body or set of bodies will disclose this, certainly not the MSM of any country. They are happy to keep people like keep "dumb and happy" in the belief that published documents with a government seal are true and accurate. Ignorance is bliss as they say..... and LOL.....

keep sing the song to someone else and while you're atit itell us something we don't know. Anything can happen, but that is not the garbage you spew and have contnued for over 5000 posts. My point is you base all of your opinion off of what the CBI says and or it's latest disinformation piece. Then you try and force it onto everyone.as if that is reality. That is not how the game works. No one is envious of you , least of all me. Sell that fantasy somehwere else. Only internet tough guys state such things behind the safety of their keyboard. If this went off into a ditch it is because of your constant stream of nonsense. In my intial post I gave you several reference points to study that dispel your foolishness of governemnt propoganda, but as per ususal you ridicule and obfuscate despite 5000 posts of LOP theory and substantiation via the CBI. As I stated before that is typical.

Doesn't work that way junior. When you grow up you can try and callthe shots- maybe. Most of my points were made initially in my first post. I even gave you a little bit of homework. Clearly you disregarded it as well as your new and most likely only champ............ genevieve.... .Primarily because reality doesn't fit into your in the box agenda. Just wow..... That's almost as pathetic as it is humorous You've been schooled but, you're too arrogant - read stupid to know it. Anyone who formulates an opinion or hypothesis based solely upon government documents and the double speak of government officials is indeed a lemming- or sheep. Take your pick.... Don't forget to say ........"baa" now.

Then perhaps you should just die.....I guess. I've made several points none of which seem to have penetrated what I initially thought was a relatively receptive mass of gray matter. Clearly I was off the mark. Oh well.... The only rambling is coming from your lost arse because I won't play your childish game. I think you and Sam I am and all the other LOP clowns should just stick to what you think you know which is what you are told. Then follow very simplistic linear thought process based upon what some article states or what government officials tell you to believe. In your case perhaps that and a few automobile repair manuals. Leave the forward, out of the box thinking to thinking other folks. Now run along junior..... ...

Typical. You flatly disregarded everything I stated only to seize on your shallow and ill informed argument. Get it straIght dude, you are not directing this argument on your whim Answer all of my questions then you might find the answers in yours- Maybe You keepm, are the one "flapping", more like braying- as in a sheep. As far as your " girlfiriend" I find that hard to believe frankly- unless you are speaking of your dog- or sheep if you prefer. Now, I've made several points which have gone over your head- yet again. That is my first point. The others are in my first post and here and there in the others. That is when I am not trifling with your goofy self. The differences between pegged and mkt driven is a nuance frankly. It is not the entire basis for valuation. Not where fiat is concerned. Get educated or continue being lost. Better still you and Sam I am can stroke each other and feel good about what you think is reality. Maybe he is your girlfriend..........

I made my point but that again sailed miles over your head. All currrencies are somehow weighted by SDR's- which are weighted accordng to the Fiat System. Those values will change like the IQD and all other currencies in the system- because the system itself is due to change. THere is a ton of info in what I just stated. I suggest you start reading or continue being led around by the nose- like the other lemmings. Now until you can speak intelligently on things you clearly have no clue about it would be advisable to stop making the proverbial a$$ out of yourself........... Now we're done until you and your LOP buddies can get up to speed. My sense though, based on your collective and particular brand of willful stupid, it could be awhile.... have fun You know, LOL and so forth...........

Read it to the letter, whereas you ignored mine. You're lost in the sauce dude. I'll throw ya bone. This goes well beyond what the CBI states and what they "state" is their money supply. As I continue to say- get educated or in your case- not . I will tell you like you flippanlty tell leveryone else. Don' t be lazy and put the work in before you start spewing more stupid. I'm not going to do it for you. Your choice.

You- .........are the one that is butt hurt. THe ladder goes both ways here dude. You conveneinetly sidestepped everything I stated in my first post directed to you. Most likely because it sailed miles over your head and proceeded onto your weaker argument. This is quid pro quo(hint:look it up) not the disjointed attack born on articles and what the cbi says according to your weak and woefully uninformed perspective. Answer my questions first then we'll get to yours. Hope you can read fast. You would know about "cheap insults" because you disense with them on almost every post. You called the tune, now you are going to dance to it. Or continue being naive........and butt hurt. The SDR is valid and so is the Fiat ponzi scheme. Get educated or stay stupid. You choose

No dude, it is you who has no clue. Tattoo this on your face so when you look admiringly in the mirror, it is a hard reminder of just how stupid your theory and naive your purvue really is.... Do you really think Iraq is going to tell us and the rest of the world exactly what they will do? Secondly, When does any government do "exactly" as they say they will do? In answer to your last question which is born of depsration I will answer thusly......: I have been in the real world, unlike yourself and your patently naive counterparts. I would try and see things your way, but I simply can't stick my head that far up my backside. Keep being simple minded dude, it suits ya........ PS: I see you disregarded my recommendations on real world education. Which is typical of a self absorbed idealogue. When I say history I mean real history starting with Fiat Currency in it's genesis. Not revisionist history. Til then keepm it stupid......I guess

The problem with that suggestion is he and the other lopsters , like their guru admirer counterparts are so naive, they cannot. Like all lemmings they believe everything they are told, or read without applying common sense and historical fact/precedent to the equation...... Typical slave mentality. Hard but true.

Actually you've essentially stated and inferred it's going to LOP except when you are called to task. Anything else you say to the contrary- if you do not admit that from this point is a lie. Period. It could LOP then again, there is a likelihood it won't. You keepm, and some of the other LOP clowns always state "what the CBI says......." Or conjecture according to what the "money supply" is? My question is, do you have any clue just how stupid and naive that really is? For contrast, tell me about the "exact"- if there is such a thing......money supply for the USD vs it's true value. Here's a hint- good luck with that........ The books are cooked. Oh and don't even start with the failed argument about the differential in the size of the economy. While that is a logical point of reference it is not even a valid argument of exactly how the Fiat Currency scheme is played.Especially considering the direction of where htat syhstem will be headed in the next 3-5 years. First ask yourself this question: What is the actual value of our dollar presently vs it's historical value from say 1913 to the present? Or more specifically what is the actual value differential? You and some of your friends can.........." LOL " in spite all you wish but in the end you all are at least as naive on the real "state of the state" as the folks who believe your counterpart guru clowns. The reality is, you and the gurus are all in the same league , just on different sides of the paradigm. I would suggest reading books like: The Unseen Hand The creature from Jeckyl Island 1984 Then review Confessions of an Economic Hitman Federal Reserve Act of 1913 When you are done with that task tell me what the IMF plan is regarding the SDR, regional SDR and how they plan to weight it's value in copntrast to the current fiat system shall be. THen we'll talk. Finally while the fate of the dinar is uncertain, the fate of the Euro, USD and Yuan are not. All of them however are based upon the fiat system and at the whim of their government despite what the IMG or BIS or WB says to the contrary. Those are the facts. I'll wait for you to refute them otherwise....... Good luck and.............LOL don't get all butt hurt now.........

You have my deepest sympathy and prayers Joe. I am truly sorry for your loss Having spent time speaking with you at our gatherings up in Grapevine and on occasion over the phone, I have a good sense of who you are and the measured approach with which you conduct your affairs. Having said that, my greater sense is your Dad is experiencing things that surpass the limitations of temporal reality we do on a daily basis. Thus he knows the good intentions of his son, and that merely adds to the infinite joy he and your Mom experience each moment in eternity. No RV or even the benefit of one could rival that. While I am sorry to meet up agian on such a sad occasion I am glad to have the opportunity to at least tuch base with you here. God Bless you and your family my friend. david

Perhaps you should consider not sending out mixed messages then ? In one post you allude that you have cancer and in another you require breathing treatments. In still another IF memory serves correctly, you speak about the meds you're on. one side of the board defends you due to your comments regarding your condition and the other is berating you because of your erratic posts. It would be advisable to consider the effect your words have before posting them on the board and creating an issue So ,which is it friend? Your conflicting comments are perplexing now to say the least.

I have, and I am through clarifying my position against the Sgt's ad homminem. Defense rests thank you

Um, not even close to making fun of someone stricken with tourettes syndrome Clearly the metaphor was lost on you Sarge. I actually stated I am more than a relative of service members, just not Corp, yet that seems lost as well. Regardless, anyone who serves would never be considered inferior by me, I know better. not even your oafish self. Nothing in my purvue is anti military , anti American, or further from the truth. I am however "anti over the top rudeness" and anti- stupid. I don't suffer fools very well which is most likely why we are........ "oil and water" Typical ad homminem though Yet your penchant for misinterpratation or reading things that aren't there is amazing. Congratulations Oh, yes and anyone who makes marginalizing comments about someone who claims sickness, especially of that type, if it is valid, is no joke. Except to you and your pal...

Wow nothing like tourette- stupid commentary huh Sarge? Clearly your comments leave alot to be desired in terms of compassion, much less descretion. Although compassion and descretion aren't usually applicable qualities attributed to a Marine. If, in fact you are one. Most jarheads I encounter always possess more bravado then they do sense. The programming seems to have that effect. Oh and for the record, I am speaking from a GI's perspective and experience. A familial one as well. I have two uncles and two cousins who are Marines. I say "are" because there is no such thing as Ex in their vocabulary . My love and admiration for each of them has influenced me greatly, yet I see the polarization in each of them . One of my uncles is still as gung -ho as when he was in Vietnam , the other is much more circumspect and reserved because of the death and destruction he witnessed. My point is, before anyone wishes to spew about my lack of respect I am speaking as a peer, as well as experience, though I did not choose the Corp. Sounds like you're a huge fan of Keeps too which is no surprise. Birds of a feather and that sort of thing. In terms of whatever you presume his prowess, I find that questionable along with your judgement. For instance I could claim to be Emperor of the Universe, but without hard proof, the claim is meaningless. It's been my experience that people who truly "got the goods" aren't compelled to spew and let everyone know.Their actions and ability speak for themselves. Those that don't or exhibit either........do. So, as far as Keep is concerned his contributions in the LOP theory of this investment are a bit narrow, but well thought out and reasonable. His demeanor and treatment of people on the other hand, while noteworthy, leaves alot to be deisred. As far as our friend Randallin is concerned , unless he is a totally wacked out poser, his comments on their face are telling. IF in fact he is suffering from cancer and receiving breathing treatments the reason for his seemingly disjointed and erratic post quality should be obvious. That is IF you possess any hint of the intuitive sense and compassion. IF he was over in The Box and served in say artillery, or some support capacity, his ailments could be a result of DU exposure. Considering that cancer in the respiratory system is quite lethal, the medication would create certain motor skill challenges and hinder the thought processes. So IF he is as he says , at least he has an excuse.......

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I agree but the bottom line is the bottom line- especially in investments. No one ventures money for practice. I certainly don't Very Fair answer.

What I find more interesting is IF you and people like Wheeler and your friend keep are even on this site and invested in the dinar in the first place. Given the facts, which admittedly there are quite a few, why would such fairly bright individuals be wasting their time? Do everyone a favor including yourselves and do NOT dispense with the philanthropic bent. That's nothing more than a lie -or obfuscation at best. As I stated I do more reading than posting. So I've seen the ridicule from both sides actually Does anyone have the guts ? I know it was traded in a muti trillion dollar market which is the Forex, yet I never heard of anyone trading it that made trillions. Where do I find that information?

What I mean should be evident- if you read my lasty post. All fiat currency is about faith- or more appropriately manipulation. That is the basis of the word Fiat- meaning "let it be done". If you think Iraq is the sole arbiter when it comes to setting their currency's value now , guess again. You are correct, that Saddam assigned an artificial rate, just like the rate was then artificially reduced by several thousand percent under sanctions. Consider what just happened to Iran recently. Amazing how that works huh? Bottom line- I know where you are going with this because I've read your posts. It is possible you could be right, but clearly you are either unfamiliar with how the world really works or unwlling to look past the "fundamentals". We aren't going to arrive at a consensus, that much is clear. No big deal. My question though to you is simple, just like it was to this Wheeler character. I'm willing to bet that yo uare invested. IF so, based upon your purview this is a losing proposition especially over the protracted period of time this speculation endeavor has taken. So if you are and it is going to Zero Neutral LOP, why are you wasting your time in it?

That's your prerogotive. In a perfect and honest world, I would absolutely agree with you. However that world, no longer exists. This situation is not soley an Iraqi issue, nor is it up to the Iraqis, about the Iraqis or just for the Iraqis. Just like our Gov't, money and will(vote) are not about us, used for us or allowed to stay with us. Our over taxed dollars are then used against us. Again this is not tin foil hat theory except to the sheep that can't accept reality. For those that can't accept this FACT, I would suggest some liesurely reading like: Atlas Shrugged 1984 The Unseen Hand The Creature from Jeckyl Island Then I would suggest studying real history such as how the Federal Reserve came in to existence and how it really functions. Then perhaps an intense scrutiny of the JFK debacle. To further get a grasp on how Gov't actually works study the Depression and how Roosevelt ordered all the private gold holdings to be surrendered at $20 an ounce for redeemeable gold certificates then revalued it at $35 dollar an ounce weeks later. Thereby devaluing the dollar by @ 40%. There's much more I could say but it would be counter to productivity here and now. My point is simply things are not according to Hoyle. Not any more. Nationalistic fervor, Sovereignty and independence are mere illusions which are not accepted by the real power that run the Corporations known as Nations. Anyone who doesn't should try asking Ghaddaffi. Lybia had it's own State run bank which was going to start the gold backed Dinar. Iran has one too. Guess where our destroyers , and Great Britains are now? Coincidence? Feel free to guess. How this will play out is anyone's guess. It could indeed end up lopping, but I am willing to bet it won't.

Well, the potential of a LOP is absolutely there without question. There is also historical precedent to substantiate that position. Ultimately though no one knows for certain because the LOP purvue alone disregards the other relevant issues to this process. Namely the fiat currency scheme, the fact that the US owns Iraq despite the company line to the contrary and so forth. Simply stating that Iraq only has X amount of GDP, X amount of dinar in circulation and cannot support an X revaluation holds only so much water. At least Wheeler had the stones to speak up, which is a far sight more than a couple other individuals who apparently don't. Except to LOL at other people to scorn..... That is gutless. As I continue to say yet again- Typical

Let's be fair about this. Wheeler has a right to his opinion and to conduct himself the way he sees fit, just like anyone else. In any case he is not alone. There are a multitude of individuals on this board that hold the LOP purvue - for good reason, and berate everyone (some ask for it) that holds a differing view. The hypocrisy of that little habit is most if not all of them own Dinar. Yet when they are asked why few if any will answer honestly. Like I said- Typical