parmenio Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 There was too much oppostion on this IDIOT'S Christmas Tree Tax when Obama was advised to rescend the tax. Goes to show that his a$$ was kicked pretty hard for him to back down!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegente Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Here's the link: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/obama-administration-to-delay-new-15-cent-christmas-tree-fee/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Montana Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Good. I heard a clip where it was said: "The tax would not have affected the end consumer, the growers would have had to pay it." Where do these bleeping idiots think the growers get their money from? THE BUYERS! Therefore, they would have had to raise the price in order to fund this stupid tax, which would have AFFECTED THE END CONSUMER. It ALWAYS affects the consumer when you tax businesses, it baffles me that this isn't one of the most obvious things in the world. A "business sense 101" class should be mandatory education for any politician that has the power to influence how businesses are ran. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojack Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 There was too much oppostion on this IDIOT'S Christmas Tree Tax when Obama was advised to rescend the tax. Goes to show that his a$$ was kicked pretty hard for him to back down!! I'm not sure what it showed, PROGRAM WAS PROPOSED BY THE INDUSTRY, NOT THE GOVERNMENT. NCTA Position Statement on New Christmas Tree Checkoff Program The National Christmas Tree Association is pleased that the USDA has announced a final rule on the creation of a Christmas Tree Promotion, Research and Information Order, commonly known as a “Checkoff.” This program was requested by the industry in 2009 and has gone through two industrywide comment periods during which 565 comments were submitted from interested parties. More than 70% of the growers posting comments, and nearly 90% of the state and multi-state associations that posted comments indicated that they were in favor of the program. A group of Christmas Tree farmers and retailers spent nearly three years studying the potential positives and negatives of a checkoff promotion and research program, including looking at other commodities that have similar programs. The program is designed to benefit the industry and will be funded by the growers at a rate of 15 cents per tree sold. The program will be administered by an independent 12-member board of small business owners who grow and sell farm-grown Christmas trees and they will be responsible for developing and approving promotional and research efforts to benefit the entire industry. The program is not expected to have any impact on the final price consumers pay for their Christmas tree. The funds collected after this season will be used to develop promotion and research programs for the 2012 season. This program was developed under the Commodity Promotion, Research and Information Act of 1996. There are at least 18 other similar programs already in effect for various agricultural commodities. Although smaller in scope, the Christmas tree program will be similar to recognizable programs for milk, cotton and beef that have brought consumers commodity-oriented messages such as “Got Milk?” and “Beef, It’s what’s for dinner.” About the National Christmas Tree Association (NCTA) NCTA is the professional organization representing nearly 5,000 farms and retailers engaged in growing and selling Real Christmas Trees to nearly 30 million consumers. Based in Chesterfield, Mo., NCTA's mission is to promote the use of Real Christmas Trees and support the industry that provides them. For more information: www.realchristmastrees.org. 636-449-5071 office (central time) dungey@realchristmastrees.org. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parmenio Posted November 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 I'm not sure what it showed, PROGRAM WAS PROPOSED BY THE INDUSTRY, NOT THE GOVERNMENT. NCTA Position Statement on New Christmas Tree Checkoff Program The National Christmas Tree Association is pleased that the USDA has announced a final rule on the creation of a Christmas Tree Promotion, Research and Information Order, commonly known as a “Checkoff.” This program was requested by the industry in 2009 and has gone through two industrywide comment periods during which 565 comments were submitted from interested parties. More than 70% of the growers posting comments, and nearly 90% of the state and multi-state associations that posted comments indicated that they were in favor of the program. A group of Christmas Tree farmers and retailers spent nearly three years studying the potential positives and negatives of a checkoff promotion and research program, including looking at other commodities that have similar programs. The program is designed to benefit the industry and will be funded by the growers at a rate of 15 cents per tree sold. The program will be administered by an independent 12-member board of small business owners who grow and sell farm-grown Christmas trees and they will be responsible for developing and approving promotional and research efforts to benefit the entire industry. The program is not expected to have any impact on the final price consumers pay for their Christmas tree. The funds collected after this season will be used to develop promotion and research programs for the 2012 season. This program was developed under the Commodity Promotion, Research and Information Act of 1996. There are at least 18 other similar programs already in effect for various agricultural commodities. Although smaller in scope, the Christmas tree program will be similar to recognizable programs for milk, cotton and beef that have brought consumers commodity-oriented messages such as “Got Milk?” and “Beef, It’s what’s for dinner.” About the National Christmas Tree Association (NCTA) NCTA is the professional organization representing nearly 5,000 farms and retailers engaged in growing and selling Real Christmas Trees to nearly 30 million consumers. Based in Chesterfield, Mo., NCTA's mission is to promote the use of Real Christmas Trees and support the industry that provides them. For more information: www.realchristmastrees.org. 636-449-5071 office (central time) dungey@realchristmastrees.org. It was the WHITE HOUSE (Obama) that propsed the tax! Yes, the tax has been suggested since 2009 by the NCTA, but this idiot found a source to tax the people and got shot down QUICKLY!!! Obama didn't have to propose the tax, did he? Liberals just can't help themselves! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojack Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 It was the WHITE HOUSE (Obama) that propsed the tax! Yes, the tax has been suggested since 2009 by the NCTA, but this idiot found a source to tax the people and got shot down QUICKLY!!! Obama didn't have to propose the tax, did he? Liberals just can't help themselves! Any tax of any kind must be Obama? Confusing... This program was requested by the industry (NCTA - National Christmas Tree Association) in 2009 and has gone through two industrywide comment periods during which 565 comments were submitted from interested parties. Read more: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Montana Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Any tax of any kind must be Obama? Confusing... This program was requested by the industry (NCTA - National Christmas Tree Association) in 2009 and has gone through two industrywide comment periods during which 565 comments were submitted from interested parties. Read more: http://dinarvets.com.../#ixzz1dG98lLRl It sounds like you're saying Obama is not responsible for the most recent news articles on this tax... I have to respectfully disagree. The Obama administration is backing a plan requiring U.S. Christmas tree growers to pay 15 cents per natural tree sold; imported producers will pay 20 cents per tree. Did Obama come up with the idea? No. Did Obama embrace the idea? Yes. Have we ever seen Obama reject a tax proposal? ..... hmm? ....... (crickets chirping ) I guess that's just my opinion, based on what I've seen... before this whole forum explodes because of political differences, I'll just close this thread. Let's get back to Dinar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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