rtrusty Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:29 AM Subject: Re: The Federal Income Tax Officially DIED today (3/27/2007) at 13:53:58 PDT > I truly hate to bother you, but wanting to know if this was correct. > If so what it means for the people of the USA. You're not bothering us, Linda. Yours are very good questions. Yes, this is correct. It is "official" because I am authorized by the Congress and the U.S. Supreme Court legally to represent the "United States" (federal government) in cases in which it was proper and timely for the United States to intervene. I will try to be brief when explaining what this means for the People of the USA, and I will also provide you with links to further explanatory details: (1) even if the IRS were a de jure service, bureau, office or other subdivision of the U.S. Department of the Treasury -- which they decidedly are NOT -- the IRS would STILL have no authority to create a tax liability solely by means of Regulations published in the Federal Register: Commissioner v. Acker: http://www.supremelaw.org/sls/2amjur2d.htm ; <--- excellent abstract http://www.supremelaw.org/sls/2amjur2d.gif http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=361&invol=87 ... [T]therefore, to uphold this addition to the tax would be to hold that it may be imposed by regulation, which, of course, the law does not permit. United States v. Calamaro, 354 U.S. 351, 359 ; Koshland v. Helvering, 298 U.S. 441, 446 -447; Manhattan Co. v. Commissioner, 297 U.S. 129, 134 . (2) the issue of whether or not there ever was a bona fide liability STATUTE for taxes imposed by subtitle A of the Internal Revenue Code, was first approached with several FOIA Requests, then with a proper SUBPOENA served upon former Secretary of the Treasury Paul H. O'Neill: he fell silent and his Department's silence activated legal estoppel: http://www.supremelaw.org/press/rels/subpoena.htm http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/eddings/subpoena.liability.htm (3) the meaning and implications of "estoppel" or legal prohibition were explained in much more detail here: http://www.supremelaw.org/letters/irs.estopped.htm (4) later, an even more serious DECLARATION OF INSOLVENCY was duly filed in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Eastern District of Washington State; in that DECLARATION, not only was the missing liability STATUTE documented and verified; the invocation of U.S. bankruptcy laws had the result of activating the AUTOMATIC STAY authorized expressly by 11 U.S.C. 362: http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/fox2/insolvency.htm http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/fox2/insolvency.explained.htm http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/fox2/interpleader.htm Therefore, there are now two (2) very important legal and factual reasons why the IRS is technically barred from enforcing collection of any more Federal income taxes: (1) there is no Statute at Large creating any specific liability(s) for those taxes; (2) the AUTOMATIC STAY now in effect prohibits such collections, pursuant to 11 U.S.C. 362. The following "31 Questions and Answers about the Internal Revenue Service" have been filed in several State and Federal Courts without any rebuttal(s) by any opposing party(s): http://www.supremelaw.org/sls/31answers.htm ; <--- numerous hyperlinks to supporting evidence! http://www.supremelaw.org/sls/31Q&A.in.evidence.htm Certified and embossed copies of same can be obtained from my office for a nominal service and handling charge. The rest of the story is documented in voluminous detail in "The Federal Zone" also available here in the Supreme Law Library: http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/ Thank you for contacting the Supreme Law Firm. -- Sincerely yours, /s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S. Private Attorney General, 18 U.S.C. 1964 http://www.supremelaw.org/decs/agency/private.attorney.general.htm http://www.supremelaw.org/reading.list.htm http://www.supremelaw.org/index.htm (Home Page) http://www.supremelaw.org/support.policy.htm (support Policy) http://www.supremelaw.org/guidelines.htm (Client Guidelines) http://www.supremelaw.org/support.guidelines.htm (Policy + Guidelines) All Rights Reserved without Prejudice ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Linda Watson Date: Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 9:54 AM Subject: The Federal Income Tax Officially DIED today (3/27/2007) at 13:53:58 PDT Mr. Mitchell, I truly hate to bother you, but wanting to know if this was correct. If so what it means for the people of the USA. I have never asked anything like this before, so pardon if I’m not politically correct. Thanks, Linda Watson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookie Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Excuse me? What the heck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenbo Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 OK..now splain(Short for explain) please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 It means there is no law that states you have to pay federal tax.. It's only implied and enforced with guns by theives... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodandStaff Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) It's one thing to say that... a total other thing to make the IRS believe they are irrelevant! Good luck with that one! Don't get me wrong... I sure don't love the IRS and what they stand for... and who they answer to, but it would truly be a "David and Goliath" outcome to overthrow them... which I believe can happen... but will it... that is another story! (imo... for what it's worth). Edited November 2, 2011 by RodandStaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozman2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 It's one thing to say that... a total other thing to make the IRS believe they are irrelevant! Good luck with that one! Don't get me wrong... I sure don't love the IRS and what they stand for... and who they answer to, but it would truly be a "David and Goliath" outcome to overthrow them... which I believe can happen... but will it... that is another story! (imo... for what it's worth). I THINK I COULD NOT SAID IT BETTER...WELL SAID RODANDSTAFF THANKS FOR THE POST RUSTY GOOD STUFF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy1der Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 It's one thing to say that... a total other thing to make the IRS believe they are irrelevant! Good luck with that one! Don't get me wrong... I sure don't love the IRS and what they stand for... and who they answer to, but it would truly be a "David and Goliath" outcome to overthrow them... which I believe can happen... but will it... that is another story! (imo... for what it's worth). I understand what you're saying but if we take the "I'm defeated before I ever go to battle attitude" things won't change. Don't think for one moment you're alone, search the internet for like-minded people (organizations) and you may find out that there are more out there than you realized. Income tax was never legally ratified by 3/4 of the states. There is a man ( I will try to get his name ) that has challenged this and the judicial system put it off on congress and when congress was approached they pinged it back on the judicial system. If we ever stood our ground then the IRS would have to pay back every tax paying citizen every dime we've paid into federal income tax. That is one reason I like Ron Paul, he wants to do away with the Federal Reserve which in turn will get rid of the IRS. Not one penny of our individual income tax pays for services we believe it's paying for. It goes to the federal reserve for interest on OUR money! JFK was killed because he didn't renew the charter with the federal reserve. Hours after is death LBJ renewed it, it's not hard to figure out what took place. We have a banking cartel that is every bit as evil as the drug cartel (MHO). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinarMillionaire Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Willy1der, very well said and knowledgeable of the facts, I like that. The IRS is just a collection agency for the FED (Int. Bankers), again, at the taxpayers expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxinjersey Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Excellent post Willy1der!!! Let's get the ball rolling Pappy.... you go first!!! We'll be right behind ya!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy1der Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Excellent post Willy1der!!! Let's get the ball rolling Pappy.... you go first!!! We'll be right behind ya!!! Ya got my backside jax? ha ha. I've listened to folks sit around and say you can't fight city hall and I was part of the crowd for the longest time. I've recently had to deal with the IRS and they were a little taken back at some of the things I asked. I am disgusted with the status quo telling me they have to think for us. Were too ignorant to know what is best for us so they'll decide who we need to vote for and then let us pick of the choices they give us. My father is 82 then 9th of this month and I've asked him about going to war and his response was "I didn't put my life on the line for what these folks in DC are doing. I (my father) took an oath and they've taken an oath and I followed through on mine, when are they going to follow through on their end." I have a grandson that I hope gets to experience what I got to growing up. If we don't do something now he won't get that opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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