Americans want to cut the deficit, but they’re loath to give up much to do it

[dinar_stud]

Americans want to cut the deficit, but they’re loath to give up much to do it

A rapidly growing number of Americans think that reducing the deficit is very important: 69 percent in 2012 believe it’s a top priority, as compared to 53 percent in 2007, according to the Pew Research Center. Only the economy and jobs rank higher

(SOURCE: PEW RESEARCH CENTER)

The problem is, Americans don’t like most of the big changes that would be necessary to reduce the deficit in a meaningful way, explains Pew Research Center president Andrew Kohut in a new brief on the issue. “In my years of polling, there has never been an issue such as the deficit on which there has been such a consensus among the public about its importance — and such a lack of agreement about acceptable solutions,” he writes.

While they overwhelmingly support reducing the deficit, more Americans would prefer to increase than reduce spending in nearly every major policy area, from Medicare to aid to the needy, Kohut points out, citing a 2011 Pew Research poll. There are only two areas where more Americans want to cut spending than increase it: unemployment benefits and foreign aid, neither of which would make much of a dent in the deficit.

There is some support for changes on the tax side, particularly for provisions hitting wealthier Americans. In another survey, 47 percent say they’d support higher taxes for with annual incomes over $250,000, and 64 percent say they’d raise the Social Security contribution cap for the wealthy. Nearly 60 percent also said they’d freeze the salaries of federal workers.

But ultimately, despite listing the deficit as a priority, most Americans — about 60 percent in a 2011 poll — would prefer to maintain benefits than take steps to reduce federal spending. As Kohut explains, this puts legislators in a real bind: “They are dealing with a public that is demanding solution to a problem which it has declared to be a major priority, but at the same time Americans are resistant, or divided at best, on the sacrifices that would be required to achieve a solution.”

(SOURCE: PEW RESEARCH CENTER)

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[PartyTime]

If people just woke up and educated themselves to learn the truth they would know that they are the creditors. And their credit is unlimited. As long as people produce goods and services their credit has no limits. This is where government gets all its credit from. Government is the debtor who borrows its credit from the people. Only the system is based solely on a credit/debt system and there is NO MONEY where the United States being the DEBTOR has no ability to ever repay any of its debts!

This is why they created the income tax. It is a tax to service their debt they can never repay which is why the dent only continues to go up and can never go down!

The only way their debt can ever be paid is ONLY IF the real creditors come forward and FORGIVES the government of ITS debts!

Once YOU as the creditor forgive them of their debt it eliminates the tax because the debt being eliminated eliminates the interest needed to servive their debt which is collected from all forms of taxation! Taxes pay NOTHING but the interest to service their debt and everything they spend to pay for anything they just borrow it into existence creating more debt which creates the need for more taxes to service the additional debt being borrowed into existence!

This is why they had to create the strawman for every man, woman and child to use. You the living man or woman use their strawman name that you THINK is your name, but is really just a fictitious entity name created by the State by THEIR birth certificate. The State then issues you a CERTIFICATE for that name for you to USE that name. You use that name to GIVE all your energy/labor to which upon your given that fictitious name your energy/labor they convert that energy/labor into their fictitious credit. Upon you given that fictitious name your credit, that fictitious name becomes the debtor. The State being the legal title owner of the fictitious name is obligated for all the debts owed by that entity name. But you the man believing that name is you or that is your name, you believe you are liable for its debts. But the truth is YOU can NEVER have any debts. YOU are the creditor. YOU are the source of all credit which comes from your labor. Government produces NOTHING! They only TAKE everything from you! Without YOU government cannot exist because without your labor and without you giving all your labor to their fictitious entity name, they couldn't get any credit to borrow off of. Banks are not creditors nor do banks make any loans. YOU are the source of ALL funds. The banks needs YOU to sign the governments entity name to a note. The bank then deposits that note creating the funds needed that you use to acquire whatever you need. That entity name becomes the debtor which is a debt obligation of the United States.

It's kind of funny how people complain about socialism yet that is exactly what they live under and just don't know it! You already give EVERYTHING to the United States through THEIR fictitious entity Name the State created for you to USE to give everything to them with! ALL property is vested in the STATE! The STATE meaning the United States, the 50 States, the counties, cities and townships within the 50 States.

We as a people give EVERYTHING to government and you are SUPPOSE to just be able to sign for whatever you need! You are not even authorized to be using their federal reserve notes because that is only an INTERNAL currency that is only suppose to be used IN government. It was only authorized to be used by the Federal Reserve, Federal Reserve Banks, all National Banks regulated by Federal Reserve Banks, and Government, and FOR NO OTHER PURPOSE!

We as a society produce more than what we can ever consume and there is no reason for anyone to be homeless or going hungry. We produced EVERYTHING and it is all already PREPAID from our collective labor! There is NO MONEY! There is only credit and debt and ALL currency is is debt obligations. Currency is merely a promise to pay. An IOU. It is no different than any other type of NOTE. All NOTES are just debt obligations. And ALL notes are all debt obligations of the United States evidenced by YOUR CREDIT you gave it!

The men and women are the CREDITORS, the governments are the DEBTORS, and banks are nothing but a CURRENCY EXCHANGE.

This is why banks can never cdome into court and reveal who the real creditor is because the real creditor is YOU!

Because YOU are the real creditor only YOU can FORGIVE that debt owed. Governments can't forgive anything because they are the debtor! Debtors can't forgive anything. Only creditors can forgive debt which YOU ARE the creditor!

[SevyShasha]

The only way their debt can ever be paid is ONLY IF the real creditors come forward and FORGIVES the government of ITS debts!

Money even as an 'asset' in your pocket / governments purse is still technically a debt to the Federal Reserve, where it was obtained from. Even our assets are liabilities

[PartyTime]

Money even as an 'asset' in your pocket / governments purse is still technically a debt to the Federal Reserve, where it was obtained from. Even our assets are liabilities

How do you take a debt obligation and call it an asset?

And how does any man claim anything as an asset when everything belongs to God? The concept of assets only exists within the artificial world of commerce. It is all just fiction and the only thing real about it is just what man percieves in his mind.

Leviticus 25:23

23 ¶ Also the land shall not be sold to be cut off from the family: for the land is mine, and ye be but strangers and sojourners with me.

Leviticus 27:28

28 Notwithstanding, nothing separate from the common use that a man doth separate unto the Lord of all that he hath (whether it be man or beast, or land of his inheritance) may be sold nor redeemed:

for everything separate from the common use is most holy unto the Lord.

Leviticus 27:28

30 Also all the tithe of the land both of the seed of the ground, and of the fruit of the trees is the Lord’s: it is holy to the Lord.

Exodus 19:5

5 Now therefore if ye will hear my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be my chief treasure above all people, though all the earth be mine.

Deuteronomy 10:14

14 Behold, heaven, and the heaven of heavens is the Lord’s thy God, and the earth, with all that therein is.

Psalm 24:1

1 The earth is the Lord’s, and all that therein is; the world and they that dwell therein.

Psalm 50:10-50:12

10 For all the beasts of the forest are mine, and the beasts on a thousand mountains.

11 I know all the fowls on the mountains, and the wild beasts of the field are mine.

12 If I be hungry, I will not tell thee: for the world is mine and all that therein is.

Haggai 2:9

9 The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the Lord of hosts.

1 Corinthians 10:26

26 For the earth is the Lord’s, and all that therein is.

Who am I to argue with God's superior claim?

He who makes the claim gets the bill.

[40oz]

Well then God should practice a little bit of civil disobedience and stop paying the bill. He should hire a different company for sure.

[PartyTime]

Well then God should practice a little bit of civil disobedience and stop paying the bill. He should hire a different company for sure.

No need when you have the sheeple volunteering to pay by making claims to everything

[nstoolman1]

If people just woke up and educated themselves to learn the truth they would know that they are the creditors. And their credit is unlimited. As long as people produce goods and services their credit has no limits. This is where government gets all its credit from. Government is the debtor who borrows its credit from the people. Only the system is based solely on a credit/debt system and there is NO MONEY where the United States being the DEBTOR has no ability to ever repay any of its debts!

This is why they created the income tax. It is a tax to service their debt they can never repay which is why the dent only continues to go up and can never go down!

The only way their debt can ever be paid is ONLY IF the real creditors come forward and FORGIVES the government of ITS debts!

Once YOU as the creditor forgive them of their debt it eliminates the tax because the debt being eliminated eliminates the interest needed to servive their debt which is collected from all forms of taxation! Taxes pay NOTHING but the interest to service their debt and everything they spend to pay for anything they just borrow it into existence creating more debt which creates the need for more taxes to service the additional debt being borrowed into existence!

This is why they had to create the strawman for every man, woman and child to use. You the living man or woman use their strawman name that you THINK is your name, but is really just a fictitious entity name created by the State by THEIR birth certificate. The State then issues you a CERTIFICATE for that name for you to USE that name. You use that name to GIVE all your energy/labor to which upon your given that fictitious name your energy/labor they convert that energy/labor into their fictitious credit. Upon you given that fictitious name your credit, that fictitious name becomes the debtor. The State being the legal title owner of the fictitious name is obligated for all the debts owed by that entity name. But you the man believing that name is you or that is your name, you believe you are liable for its debts. But the truth is YOU can NEVER have any debts. YOU are the creditor. YOU are the source of all credit which comes from your labor. Government produces NOTHING! They only TAKE everything from you! Without YOU government cannot exist because without your labor and without you giving all your labor to their fictitious entity name, they couldn't get any credit to borrow off of. Banks are not creditors nor do banks make any loans. YOU are the source of ALL funds. The banks needs YOU to sign the governments entity name to a note. The bank then deposits that note creating the funds needed that you use to acquire whatever you need. That entity name becomes the debtor which is a debt obligation of the United States.

It's kind of funny how people complain about socialism yet that is exactly what they live under and just don't know it! You already give EVERYTHING to the United States through THEIR fictitious entity Name the State created for you to USE to give everything to them with! ALL property is vested in the STATE! The STATE meaning the United States, the 50 States, the counties, cities and townships within the 50 States.

We as a people give EVERYTHING to government and you are SUPPOSE to just be able to sign for whatever you need! You are not even authorized to be using their federal reserve notes because that is only an INTERNAL currency that is only suppose to be used IN government. It was only authorized to be used by the Federal Reserve, Federal Reserve Banks, all National Banks regulated by Federal Reserve Banks, and Government, and FOR NO OTHER PURPOSE!

We as a society produce more than what we can ever consume and there is no reason for anyone to be homeless or going hungry. We produced EVERYTHING and it is all already PREPAID from our collective labor! There is NO MONEY! There is only credit and debt and ALL currency is is debt obligations. Currency is merely a promise to pay. An IOU. It is no different than any other type of NOTE. All NOTES are just debt obligations. And ALL notes are all debt obligations of the United States evidenced by YOUR CREDIT you gave it!

The men and women are the CREDITORS, the governments are the DEBTORS, and banks are nothing but a CURRENCY EXCHANGE.

This is why banks can never cdome into court and reveal who the real creditor is because the real creditor is YOU!

Because YOU are the real creditor only YOU can FORGIVE that debt owed. Governments can't forgive anything because they are the debtor! Debtors can't forgive anything. Only creditors can forgive debt which YOU ARE the creditor!

Has anyone ever done what you speak of and did the government fold and take their cards with them?

Does anyone have the correct words or phrases needed to speak in court or to the banks to cause them to back off?

I have seen cases on U-Tube where the judge says"I don't have a clue as to what your talking about" bangs the gavel and the person either pays the fine or goes to jail.

Why don't we hear of sucessful cases where the citizen beats them at there own game?

I would think people would be shouting from the roof tops about whats going on.

Just simple questions. I am not being an adversary but I would like to know.

[PartyTime]

Has anyone ever done what you speak of and did the government fold and take their cards with them?

Does anyone have the correct words or phrases needed to speak in court or to the banks to cause them to back off?

I have seen cases on U-Tube where the judge says"I don't have a clue as to what your talking about" bangs the gavel and the person either pays the fine or goes to jail.

Why don't we hear of sucessful cases where the citizen beats them at there own game?

I would think people would be shouting from the roof tops about whats going on.

Just simple questions. I am not being an adversary but I would like to know.

All the time.

Forget cases. NEVER go to court, period! You will never win playing in their sandbox. The citizen is the fiction. Citizens are subjects of their foreign corporation. You will never see any records of any of this in their courts. They seal any records that expose the truth.

You can certainly win by playing their game, but the odds of losing are over 86%. Do you feel lucky or good enough to go into their courts and beat them using their laws? With odds like that I don't know why anyone would even try. This is why we never even go into court anymore. They have no jurisdiction and we do not give them any. We stay out of their foreign courts. Going in their courts is just an offer. We do not accept those offers. We are not the fictitious person name in their court summons and we do not consent to be their trustee for their artificial legal person they are naming in their cases. The State created that fictitious legal person, the State retains original legal title to that entity name (original birth record) and they are liable for it, not me. They are trustees, not me. I am the creditor, the grantor, and beneficiary. They are the Obligor and trustee. It is the job of the trustee to take care of any government affairs for their artificial legal person, not mine.

The only reason you are being held liable is because you consent to be liable. You make claims to property that isn't yours and by making those claims you consent to be liable. People do this because of ignorance. They don't know who they are, vs what they are not. They think they ARE that fictitious name and/or at least think that is THEIR name. Because they think that they claim it as theirs or claim it as being them. Well that isn't YOU and it most ceratinly isn't YOURS! It is the STATE'S. They created it, they own title to it, they are liable for it and everything associated with it! The State gives you a CERTIFICATE of THEIR artificial legal person's name for you to USE their name as a transmitting utility for you to freely give everything to the United States by giving everything to THEIR fictitious legal person.

Senate Doc #43, page 9, second paragraph in the right column.

"The ultimate ownership of all property is in the State; individual so-called "ownership" is only by virtue of Government, i.e., law, amounting to mere user; and use must be in accordance with law and subordinate to the necessities of the State."

How do you think they are able to claim the ultimate ownership of ALL property is in the State, and YOU merely have USERSHIP of it? By creating the artificial legal person they own legal title to and issuing you their certificate of title for you to use their fictitious entity name to put everything in their entity name.

Congressional Record - House - March 9, 1933

"The money will be worth 100 cents on the dollar, because it is backed by the credit of the Nation.

What is the credit of the Nation? It is YOU, ME and every single living man, woman and child! WE are the CREDITORS! Without us there is no credit for the United States to borrow from. Without us there is no banks to accept the notes YOU sign FOR the State's artificial legal person name.

Congressional Record - House - March 9, 1933

"The money will be worth 100 cents on the dollar, because it is backed by the credit of the Nation. It will represent a mortgage on all the homes and other property of all the people in the Nation.

The money so issued will not have one penny of gold coverage behind it. because it is really not needed. We do not need gold to back our internal currency."

Right there they tell you their currency will represent a mortgage on ALL the homes and OTHER property of ALL the people in the Nation!

They also tell you right there that their currency is an INTERNAL currency! Internal means WITHIN government. YOU being the private man in the private sector are EXTERNAL.

They also make this very clear in their own Act of Congress when they passed their bill in 1934 to protect the currency

January 30, 1934. [H. R. 6976.]

An Act to protect the currency system of the United States

Sec. 15 - As used in this Act the term "United States" means the Government of the United States ;

the term "currency of the United States" means currency which is legal tender in the United States, and includes United States notes, Treasury notes of 1890, gold certificates, silver certificates, Federal Reserve notes, and circulating notes of Federal Reserve banks and national banking associations;

They tell you everything within in their own published laws. Their currency is an INTERNAL currency created to ONLY be used WITHIN their government and government controlled banking system. It was never authorized to be used by the private sector!

But technically they are not issuing their internal currency to YOU the living man. Technically they are issuing it to THEIR artificial legal person name that you used to put down down on that job application as the name of the employee and you used to open that bank account. They created that fictitious name WITHIN their foreign corporate government and they retain and hold the original title to that fictitious name, so technically, that fictitious name is IN their foreign corporate government. YOU taking that currency and using it you are technically using it FOR that fictitious legal person. Everything you do you do under the name of THEIR legal person name!

Below is a reply I made to this first section:

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"On my birth certificate, my mother actually did inform on me, so a little more pertained to me than just the alleged taking of my footprints. Their document also demonstrates that they took my given name and family name and made a new name of them, styled as First, Middle, Last. (I have not been able to obtain any documents that show my footprints. I've been stonewalled so far. It will probably require a subpoena.) I disagree with you that I am not entitled to claim ownership of the name given to me, even if the state has restated it in a different form. If you concede ownership, then you don't own it. If you contest ownership, what are they going to say? I've already learned what they're going to say. Nothing. They fall silent when you tell them you own the name on that birth certificate. That means they agree with you. Now until you give them notice, they can pretend it's theirs all they want, and they do."

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Think what you just said. You acknowledged they took and used the same given name and the same family name by adding them together and created a new name by making a first, middle, last name. That is NOT the name you were given, so how can you claim you own something that was not given to you? THEY hold original title (birth records) to it. So you can claim all you want, it doesn't make you become owner just because they don't respond. They hold title! They don't have to respond. It is a frivolous claim! Can you send a notice to your neighbor claiming you own his house that the deed is in the name he is using, and if he ignores it, you then become owner of his house just because you claim you are? No!

You were given only a first and middle name. You were not given a family name. The family name is separate and distinct from the given name. It is not a part of your given name. The name the State created is completely different and separate from the name you have.

For example, John-Henry (given name) born of the family Smith (Surname/Family Name)

The State created a separate new name of John Henry Smith

They look similar but they are two separate names that have nothing to do with each other.

The name you have a rightful claim to is John-Henry

The State has no claim to John-Henry nor do they claim to.

The State holds title to John Henry Smith.

You have no rightful claim to the Name John Henry Smith because you were never given that name. You were only given the name John-Henry and you only have a rightful claim to the name John-Henry and nothing more. The State has nothing pertaining to the name John-Henry. They have the name John Henry Smith.

They will not even recognize just John-Henry. They will only recognize John Henry Smith, or some variation of that as long as it includes Smith attached to it, such as John H Smith, John Smith or J Smith.

The name Smith as far as it pertains to you in any way is just a standalone name by itself which is only the name of the family you were born of. Smith is a shared name among everyone that was born of that family. Smith is not any part of the given name.

It is no different than say a piece of machinery, where someone designs a machine and they put a patent on it where no one can design and sell the same machine. But what another company does to get around that is they can copy the same design down to where they merely change the design of the door handle and then build their own machine to sell. The two machines look exactly the same with the exception of the design of the door handles and where they have a different label put on them and painted a different color. Because they are not identical to the tee, they are in fact different where the other company gets around the patent. Just look at cars made by Hyundai for a good example of this. Their designs replicate American made cars where in many cases you can't even tell if that is Ford or a Hyundai going down the street until you look close enough to see the slight difference and the manufacturer's label on it.

Even Black's Law tells you the distinction of the name.

Christian name. See personal name.

given name. See personal name.

personal name. An individual's name or names given at birth, as DISTINQUISHED from a FAMILY NAME. - Also termed given name; (in the Western tradition) first name; (in the Christian tradition) Christian name. Cf. surname.

Right there it tells you the given name is distinguished from the family name. Meaning they are completely separate from one another where they should never be added together as one full name because they are in fact completely separate from one another.

surname. The family name AUTOMATICALLY bestowed at birth, acquired by marriage, or adopted by choice. Although in many cultures a person's surname is traditionally the father's surname, there is nothing to prevent someone from taking the mother's surname or a combination of the parent's surnames.

The family name / Surname is a separate stand alone name that automatically bestows upon you at birth. It isn't a name given to you by your parents at birth. It is only the name of the family you were born of.

When the State took and used both separate names and ADDED the two separate names TOGETHER, thereby creating a completely different Name that has absolutely nothing at all to do with YOUR name, that is the Name they own through their birth certificate that created it.

The State then issues you a CERTIFICATE of their State registered Name for your use so you have a fictitious legal full name to use to conduct commerce within their fictitious system. Within it you cannot transact in any type of commerce. Go try and open a bank account using only your given name or try and get a job by using only your given name, telling them you do not have a LAST Name and there is no such thing as LAST Name for a man. See if the bank opens an account for you or if an employer will hire you.

legal name. A person's full name as recognized in law. A legal name is usu. acquired at birth or through court order. There are no rules governing a legal name's length or constitution; it may be a single name (e.g., Prince) or include words not generally used in human names (e.g., Moon Unit). [Cases: Names 1.]

a "person's full name" (fiction) vs "human name" (wo/man)

A FULL name recognized in LAW. The full fictitious legal name acquired at birth, where birth is defined by the State being an EVENT and claiming they do NOT register babies, but register an EVENT. So what was is this EVENT if it isn't the birth of a baby being registered? The birth of a newly created fictitious legal name being registered to be acquired at birth for the newborn baby to have a fictitious name to USE as their game piece to be able to go into the world, and conduct commerce WITHIN their fictitious system?

1599 Geneva Bible:

Revelation 13:17

"And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark or the name of the beast or the number of his name."

Interesting, wouldn't you agree? Without having THEIR registered fictitious legal name to use within their artificial world of commerce, no man can buy or sell within their system without out it!

1599 Geneva Bible

Hosea 4:6

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge because thou hast refused knowledge, I will also refuse thee that thou shalt be no Priest to me: and seeing thou hast forgotten the Law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."

Senate Doc #43, page 9, second paragraph in the right column.

"The ultimate ownership of all property is in the State; individual so-called "ownership" is only by virtue of Government, i.e., law, amounting to mere user; and use must be in accordance with law and subordinate to the necessities of the State."

Congressional Record - House - March 9, 1933

"The money will be worth 100 cents on the dollar, because it is backed by the credit of the Nation. It will represent a mortgage on all the homes and other property of all the people in the Nation.

The money so issued will not have one penny of gold coverage behind it. because it is really not needed. We do not need gold to back our internal currency."

January 30, 1934. [H. R. 6976.]

An Act to protect the currency system of the United States

Sec. 15 - As used in this Act the term "United States" means the Government of the United States ;

the term "currency of the United States" means currency which is legal tender in the United States, and includes United States notes, Treasury notes of 1890, gold certificates, silver certificates, Federal Reserve notes, and circulating notes of Federal Reserve banks and national banking associations;

They tell you everything within in their own published laws. Their currency is an INTERNAL currency created to ONLY be used WITHIN their government and government controlled banking system. It was never authorized to be used by the private sector!

Enter the Name! A fictitious created legal Name registered as property of the STATE. The STATE being ALL Corporate STATES under their Corporate system of Government.

To PLAY in their game, you have to have a "game piece" to play with. Just like the monopoly game. Only instead of choosing between wanting to BE the car, hat, iron, or whatever, you get to choose a NAME to BE, which will be the Name based on taking the same Name your parents gave you AND taking the same family Name of the Name of the family you were born of, where the STATE will use those same separate Names and ADD those Names TOGETHER, whereby creating an entire different and NEW Name which becomes the STATE'S new fictitious legal full Name registered with the STATE!

Now EVERYTHING you do throughout your lifetime that pertains to anything WITHIN their system of commerce, YOU the man freely GIVE all your labor to the United States (STATE) by and through its Registered NAME they gave you to USE so you can play the game within their system. Since YOU the man have freely GIVEN EVERYTHING through THEIR REGISTERED NAME, ALL property is vested in the STATE. And since everything you do WITHIN their system of commerce is ALL being done through their Registered Name, they only see their Registered Name as one of their Government Citizens (US Citizen) that is using their INTERNAL currency. So it's all good! It's all hunky dory! They keep it all in the family! LOL

Congressional Record - House - March 9, 1933

"The money will be worth 100 cents on the dollar, because it is backed by the credit of the Nation"

The Nation here refers to all the "private" men and women who will ALL freely volunteer to GIVE them ALL their labor (credit) by and through their STATE Registered Name, JOHN HENRY SMITH!

ALL their laws and records clearly states that YOU the "man" are the REAL CREDITOR. Without "man" giving them all his energy/labor they would not have the ability to have any CREDIT to use within their fictitious system which is the funding and life blood of their entire system. And they get it ALL just by YOUR voluntary compliance!

As you give all your labor through their registered name, your labor is converted as CREDIT given to their registered Name. The moment your credit is given to their registered name, that registered name becomes the DEBTOR that owes the debt obligation for the credit YOU just gave it! The United States (STATES) being the registered owner of that registered fictitious entity name is the OBLIGOR that owes the debt obligation for their registered Name!

Now you know WHY no bank can ever come into court and reveal who the actual CREDITOR is, because the real creditor is YOU the "man". In addition to that, because the creditor is the man, and NOT a fictitious person, their courts could not even recognize you as being the real creditor!

You signed THEIR registered Name to their note, whereby you the man just GAVE their registered Name YOUR CREDIT, and at the same time, you contracted THEIR registered Name to that Note making their Registered Name become the DEBTOR owing the debt on the credit YOU just gave it! That debt becomes a debt obligation of the United States by and through ITS Registered Name!

Now the only problem is, because their system is all based on just a credit and debt system, there is no way that the United States can ever actually repay any of that debt. There is NO MONEY! There is ONLY credit and debt! So the only thing the United States can do to keep their artificial world alive and functioning, is they have to just keep borrowing YOUR credit, FOREVER! As long as there is "man" to provide labor, they will have unlimited credit to borrow from. But there is one problem with this. It is all a pyramid scheme because their debt will only continue to grow bigger, and as it grows bigger they need to collect more taxes just to keep servicing their debt. The problem here is that eventually they will hit a point to where the debt is so much there won't be enough men and women to provide enough labor to generate enough tax to service their debt. So the only way they can fix that problem is by planning for world depopulation by reducing the population and resetting their system to start all over again!

BUT! There is ONE way that their debt can be paid! WE are the CREDITORS and ONLY the real creditors can actually pay that debt off since there is no such thing as MONEY to repay it with. The ONLY way the CREDITOR can actually pay off their debt owed is if the CREDITOR steps forward and the creditor FORGIVES all the debt owed by their Registered Name that the creditor gave all his credit to!

So, I, as the GRANTOR/OBLIGEE and DONOR of ALL the credit for the United States, by and through ITS Registered Name, JOHN HENRY SMITH, I FORGIVE and ABSOLVE ALL the Debt for JOHN HENRY SMITH, as my GIFT to the United States Treasury and it is my will that ALL the debt be canceled and retired and never reissued. IT IS FINISHED!

This also fits in with this section of their US Code which oddly enough they passed this Act in the same year they repealed HJR-192

• 3113 . Accepting gifts

(a) To provide the people of the United States with an opportunity

to make gifts to the United States Government to be used to reduce

the public debt-

(1) the Secretary of the Treasury may accept for the Government

a gift of-

( an obligation of the Government included in the

public debt made only on the condition that the obligation

be canceled and retired and not reissued ;

An obligation of the Government? Isn't the Name their registered property? Isn't it their registered Name that is the Debtor, making the debt owed by their registered Name a debt Obligation of the Government?

Isn't it YOU that is the real creditor as clearly disclosed within their laws and congressional records?

Well if "I" a "man", am the creditor where if I loaned you my credit, can't I choose to forgive that debt you owe me since I am the creditor that loaned you my credit? Hey, Jim, here! Here is a $50 FRN as evidence of a debt obligation that I will loan you and you have to pay me back plus interest, deal? Deal! Next day. Hey, Jim, you know that $50 FRN I loaned you yesterday and you agreed to pay me back plus interest? Yeah? Well I tell you what. Just forget about about. You don't have to pay me back anything. I forgive it all, so don't worry about it. Wow! Thanks, dude! You're the man! I know! LOL

Now can't we all do that if we are the creditor that is loaning our credit to someone else? Who says or what law says that I can't just forgive a debt owed that I am the creditor who loaned it?

It says right there in their own law their Secretary of Treasury can accept GIFTS for the Government to be used to pay their public debt! So let's all give them a GIFT by FORGIVING all the DEBT the United States owes by and through their Registered Name on their Birth certificate, that you loaned your credit to!

And if you really want to have some fun just for the heck of it, see if you can really shake up those bankers by sending them a notice of your debt forgiveness on the account number for the STATE'S Registered Name, on the order of something like this:

As the GRANTOR/OBLIGEE and DONOR of ALL the credit for the United States, by and through ITS Registered Name, JOHN HENRY SMITH, for loan account number xxxxxxxx, I FORGIVE and ABSOLVE ALL the Debt for JOHN HENRY SMITH, as my GIFT to the United States Treasury and it is my will that ALL the debt be canceled and retired and never reissued. It is also my will that ALL proceeds from the monetization and/or securitization of the note/credit application for loan account number xxxxxxx, if any, shall all be surrendered to the United States Treasury as my GIFT to the United States towards reducing the public debt. IT IS FINISHED!

Now wouldn't you love to see Mr. Banker President's face after reading that? If they are making millions off monetizing and securitizing the notes and YOU are the real creditor, then ALL those funds made belong to you the creditor. And we know it is highly unlikely you will ever be able to collect that, so why not have some fun with it and just GIVE it all as your GIFT to the United States under their US Law 3113 . Accepting gifts, and send it to the United States Treasury? LOL Sick the United States Treasury and/or Internal Revenue on them and let them go collect their gifted funds just given to them! If you are giving all the millions made off any monetization or securitization of any notes, would the US Treasury want those funds? And the beauty of this is they can do this behind the scenes quietly without it being exposed publically once they received your instructions of gifting it all to them!

[nstoolman1]

Forget cases. NEVER go to court, period! You will never win playing in their sandbox.

And I have a choice in this? Speeding tickets, parking tickets, summons. If I don't show up I have a police officer(s) show up at my work and off I go to the jail. Now I am before the judge and I tell him I don't want to play in your sand box. 2 years later for comtempt of court and I see daylight I am out of a job and worse off than I would have been by paying the fines. Unless there is hard proof that there is accepted legal language I can use I see this as a lesson in futility.

I am not being critical and it all sounds good but you are talking about not obeying the law. Bad things happen when you do that.

[PartyTime]

And I have a choice in this? Speeding tickets, parking tickets, summons. If I don't show up I have a police officer(s) show up at my work and off I go to the jail. Now I am before the judge and I tell him I don't want to play in your sand box. 2 years later for comtempt of court and I see daylight I am out of a job and worse off than I would have been by paying the fines. Unless there is hard proof that there is accepted legal language I can use I see this as a lesson in futility.

I am not being critical and it all sounds good but you are talking about not obeying the law. Bad things happen when you do that.

Not obeying the law? What law? You mean those foreign corporate policies they call statutes that only apply to government?

We don't go to court for anything, period! But you will have to rebut their presumptions you are the trustee for their legal entity. We send send a notice of mistake to the clerk or if assigned already to a judge then to the judge. These are sent as private communication and not on any record. We do not cite or use any of their laws since they have nothing to do with you. Over 70 cases so far across the country and all have gone away. These range from traffic tickets, credit card, property taxes, IRS cases, etc.

They will test you and they will try to trick you and you have to stay on point. Most cases take 2 to 3 follow ups and they disappear. They even show the docket appear as if they are still going forward. Some even showed warrants were supposedly issued, but after having cops check it on their computers no warrants show up. We think the courts are just showing them in their record to cure the bonds they create on the case. Every case they bond to make big bucks off of. But they haven't bothered anyone even some who were stopped again afterwards.

You can listen to some calls on this. There are guys that tell their own personal story about their cases they have done this.

My link

Start with the call from 1/02/2012

Edited June 18, 2012 by PartyTime

[nstoolman1]

Thank you PartyTime, I will be doing some reading and listening.