littlewing

ha ha! That graphic is perfect. I realized from the beginning that it will happen when it happens and there's not anything or any "intel" that will change that. I look at it as if/when it happens, we're blessed/lucky and until then, it's all still good. My friend is a perfect example of a precautionary tale for any newbies out there as to how not to go about this.

Today, I'd say Tony. Okie's always been such a joke to me but sadly, there's people that have been hurt by all of these "gurus." They truly are walking a very thin line.

I've been in this for a few years, along with someone close to me. It didn't take me long to figure out who the "gurus" were and that they're full of crap. At this point, just hearing the name, "Tony," makes me cringe. My friend who is highly intelligent, or at least, I used to think so, has lost their mind when it comes to listening to Tony. His entire life now revolves around these "conference calls" that are just about everyday. About a year or so ago, he had given me the number to one of the calls and I listened for a few minutes, which is all I could take. Speaking in code about three letter agencies, basically saying nothing about nothing. Every week, my friend thinks it's here because Tony has called it but then somehow it always gets delayed, I've now heard every crazy excuse you can make up as to why it hasn't happened, yet. The latest rate from Tony is around $25.87 and my friend believes this crap. I have tried repeatedly to reason with my friend about Tony, other 'gurus,' conference calls... it doesn't matter, my friend has lost it. I realize that my friend is a fool for falling for this but at the same time, I am disgusted with "Tony" and the others for the lies and scamming money from people blinded by their desperation and in my friend's case, also greed.

Hahahaha! Not funny anymore. I have a family member who is literally freaking out right now because Tony has called the RV. No point in reminding him that Tony's been calling it for years now. Tony says it has RV'd in country for $3.44 and in the US for "double digits" which would make said family member a billionaire! haha! Only holdup is the banks having to get ready for the onslaught of Dinarians. Oh, and that Okie is going to be the one allowed to make the official RV announcement! No joke! I have tried repeatedly to talk with family member about Tony, Okie and all the others like them but he will not listen to me because they tell him what he wants to hear. He has really lost it and it makes me sad. I do believe we are closer than ever but these "guru" types, dinar pumpers, LIARS, whatever you want to call them feed on the vulnerable, maybe some who are ignorant or new to this and hate to say it (greedy, just speaking of my family member there). Sad, just sad...

Urgent….Parliament votes on allocating 6000 jobs for MoI, MoD Baghdad (AIN) –The Parliament voted to allocate 6000 posts for the security ministries within the 2012 budget law draft. “The Parliament voted for allocating 6000 posts for the Ministries of Defense and Interior in addition to allocating sums of money for purchasing weapons and military equipment within the 2012 budget law draft,” parliamentary source reported to Ain Thursday. The Parliament is holding its session now to vote on the 2012 budget law draft. /End http://alliraqnews.com/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4841:urgentparliament-votes-on-allocating-6000-jobs-for-moi-mod&catid=37:economy&Itemid=41

I just found an article that I found interesting and positive regarding IQD. I searched all over this site and didn't see it already posted, so please forgive me if it has already been posted since the date of the article is 12/28/11. The author of the article, Sebastian Walsh, is a University of Cambridge educated journalist writing for Financial News of the Dow Jones, with no known ties to the IQD that I could find. http://www.efinancialnews.com/story/2011-12-28/greek-lessons-from-iraq?mod=mostread-home Greek Lessons From Baghdad Sebastian Walsh 28 Dec 2011 Highlights of the article: "Immediately after the US invasion in 2003, dollars were the de facto currency in Iraq." "However, the coalition provisional authority, or CPA, decided that a permanent dollarization of the economy was impractical." "Aside from the infelicitous political implications, it would have meant that prices and wages would have had to bear the brunt of any future changes in the oil price, with the currency unable to fall and rise in response to the changing value of the country's main foreign exchange earner." "Since then, speculators have rushed into the new currency, gambling that it would appreciate as more oil production came on stream – perhaps not a prospect that Greece should ponder, unless the Aegean has more to offer than package holidays"

I don't get it either. A friend of mine who is heavily invested is one of those that think these people walk on water. He pays the fee to listen to their daily "conference calls" and gave me the number to one a few days ago because he really wanted me to listen to it. I could not listen to the entire call because it is such BS! Everyday, Tony tells these people that it has RV'd and they still believe it every time! My friend had called me earlier today saying that Tony said it had RV'd (again). I find it really sad, because he is an intelligent man but when it comes to PTR, he has lost it and blindly follows whatever they say. He won't look at DV because it doesn't tell him what he wants to hear (RV everyday) the way PTR does. DinarVets is the only dinar site I look at.

The positive is the approval of the 1st draft of HCL. Hopefully, they can all come to an agreement on the other 2 drafts (soon) and make it official. Closer...

Never say never but in my personal opinion, the U.S. will not completely be pulling out of Iraq and the Iraqi people will not gain control of their nation anytime in the near future. One thing I took from this article is that it looks good for the RV, if for no other reason than the greed of those mentioned.

I have not seen this on here before, found it interesting & thought I'd share. Forgive me if it's been posted before. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Analysis of News--www.Analysis-News.com Of Interest to Investors, Survivalists and Others Concerned about their Economic and Financial Futures http://www.analysis-news.com/allfolder/Understanding-VI.htm ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Understanding Money and War--Part VI By R. D. Bradshaw The Iraqi Case To demonstrate how this scam has occurred under George W. Bush, let us go back to the Understanding Money and War, Parts IV and V, which addressed the work of the crafty Paul Wolfowitz and the Rothschild banking empire to take over the Iraqi money system. In trying to assess these efforts, my first inclination was that surely Wolf and his Rothschild mentors moved in on the old Iraqi dinars and obtained possession of most of them (maybe like their earlier relatives did with the old Continentals after the Revolutionary War). I have already related the story from Gordon Thomas and the American Free Press of Aug 20, 2003 about how the CIA raided the old Iraqi Central Bank and made off with its money, gold and whatever of value found there (as related in Part IV of this series). I don’t know how many of the old dinars were stolen in this raid. But there should have been quite a supply of them at the Iraqi Central Bank. And if so, where did they go? My own belief is that Wolfowitz and his Rothschild relatives and colleagues ended up with much of the monetary assets of the CIA raid on the Iraqi Central Bank. Since Paul was in charge of the Iraqi war, he already had plans made that there would be a new dinar and that the old dinar would be 100% convertible to the new one. Once the Rothschild privately owned Iraqi Central Bank came into being in 2004, it all became academic anyway. Just as the US Federal Reserve answers to no one (except its owners), we can be sure that the privately owned Iraqi Central Bank will answer to no one beyond its corporate owners (which are the Rothschilds and other big bankers). More I have also learned some other things on how the fat cat plutocrats are now in the process of making another huge stack of profits on a deal that they have been working on in Iraq. It appears that Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch had some worthless packaged mortgages which nothing could be or can be done about. But they also had a lot of (currently) worthless, old, Iraqi bonds, alongside the mortgages. Lehman Brothers did not have many Iraqi bonds. With this backdrop, JP Morgan-Chase bought Bear Stearns and Bank of America bought Merrill Lynch. This worked out well because those same banks also have much Iraqi currency and bonds. When you add the holdings of the failing companies in with the surviving big banks, it means the survivors now have a hoard of Iraqi money and bonds. The fat cats seemingly let Lehman Brothers go bankrupt possibly because they didn’t have any assets like that in their portfolio. But as a sidelight on this, the top brass of Lehman are now a part of an organization in the Middle East that has something to do with setting oil prices. So they are not being left out of the loop entirely. When the current Iraq war broke out, the old Iraqi dinars went to near worthless (which we can be sure were bought up by Rothschild agents like Wolf). Subsequently, the Rothschilds had a hand in creating the new Iraqi dinar (which was all spiffed up with good security features, etc.). While the war has been going on since Mar 2003, the plutocrat team players have been acquiring huge quantities of the Iraqi dinars and bonds. First, they picked up vast quantities of the old dinars which were made good in 2004 with the exchange proviso to the new dinar. And now, since 2004, they have been acquiring the new dinars and either holding them or selling them to the public (along with the work of the Rothschild owned central bank sales of dinars to the public). Some days ago, I understand that Goldman Sachs (another Rothschild US Company) was given permission to convert itself into a regular bank. All normal waiting times and red tape to do this were waived. This bank supposedly has $1.1 trillion in assets (too, Warren Buffet has invested 5 billion into this new operation and, supposedly, it is the first time he’s invested in a bank in decades). As it turns out, Goldman Sachs is also flush with Iraqi bonds. The reason Goldman Sachs needed to be a bank is so that when the Iraqi dinar is stabilized and increased in value from oil sales (which will be an engineered maneuver, courtesy of the Rothschilds) those Iraqi assets will suddenly, magically become worth much. This is a once in a lifetime event because there’ll never be another country as potentially rich as Iraq (2nd largest oil reserves in the world) whose currency and bonds have been engineered to be worthless to give the big boys a chance to hop on them and really clean up. The events described above on the Iraqi situation help establish why the US invaded that nation in 2003. Obviously, the whole exercise was undertaken to make vast new profits for the plutocrat masters and neo-cons now ruling the US. For sure, we can bank on it that the fat cats have and will make absolute fortunes on the Iraqi thing before the dust settles. But once more, there is a word of caution here. Just as the new dinar has had wide swings up and down in value, it could easily go to the garbage can if and when US forces leave Iraq and the people of Iraq gain control of their nation. When that happens, we can be sure that the Rothschild Central Bank and the present Rothschild approved dinar will both go down the tubes. Finally, there remain some questions about the US war to make money for the plutocrats and neo-cons and particularly about the gold formerly held by the Iraqi government at the old Iraqi Central Bank. What happened to this gold? Was it laundered by some mining company? Did the Rothschilds get it? Has it been sold on the open gold market to drive gold prices down? As touched upon in the Goldsmiths, Part XXX, the CIA was in possession of this gold as well as likely a large sum of gold found in the Philippines and Europe after WWII. The CIA could have easily made this gold available to the Fed or Treasury to manipulate and control the gold markets for the last 40 years.

Thought this article was interesting. I found it on another site and did not see it already posted here... http://www.alsumaria.tv/en/Iraq-News/1-66726-UN-cautiously-optimistic-about-Iraq.html Iraq News UN cautiously optimistic about Iraq Thursday, July 21, 2011 12:07 GMT The UN special envoy to Iraq Ad Melkert expressed "cautious optimism" about economic and governmental improvements in Iraq in a briefing to the Security Council Tuesday. "In most I have witnessed in Iraq, there is ground for cautious optimism, provided there is determined leadership within the country and strong cooperation in the region with Iraq," said UN envoy Ad Melkert. "In departure from decades of authoritarian regime, negotiations between all parties have been now the predominant feature of life. Parliament is taking an increasingly important role in decision making”, he said. Melkert concluded by insisting that Iraq's "sustainable engagement by the international community" is needed to help the country reach its "vast potential."

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