Yota, oleman, I always respect others veiws but you can't argue with a liberal. I'm with you fellas. As for item # 8 Obama could care less about GM as a corp. His bailout was for union votes only. Who owns GM now? That would be the UAW. His stimulas was a slushfund for the democrat party. The ugly details are starting to come out. This being a military member site, here's an example of how your president treats you. http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Ohio-military-vote-Democrats/2012/08/03/id/447552 Have to copy and paste (sorry) but worth the trouble. Thanks, r carter