The Original Spike

All I have to say is you are all invited to invest in my planned, new hunting club in the AR/MO Ozarks. Specific skill sets welcomed, no whiners need apply. Former military extremely welcome! Drop me a note and let's get our special hunting camp afloat.

mmmmmm.... we are the ones, (We The People), that have been leveraged agaisnt the national debt. Million dollar insurance policies held on (ALL) American citizens from birth, google it... I was told that birthcertificates, mine is a copy and I didn't find it on there, but, have bank note printed on them. Scary times indeed... Indentured servitude all over again... Can anyone say Marshal law??? Let's hope that some how there is a form of 'Magic' elixer in the ballast of thi ship so it stays upright. Looks like grassroots movements need to take place to get the economy jumpstarted again, or is this corspe been dead to long to jump-start it back to life again? We still have the, 'We The People', can we unite and stand up as one??? One more time??? Where's that dang reset button?????

Hey, I'm not laughing... One of the managers at my bank bought a bunch right after the spill, when their stock really took a dive... He's sitting on a pile now!

I've been looking into several things to transfer my holdings into other than U.S. currency as well. I'm liking 'Rare Earth Metals', but wouldn't know how to take reciept or store them... They need these metals for the computer industry to keep moving foward and these metals are becomming less and less available. Right now, you can pick these metals up at penny stock prices and the metal is less availble than gold! America has one mine in California that has an abundance of these metals, the rest, I believe, are mined from China. So do I go with the holding company stock that owns the land? I don't know yet how to go about doing this, but assure you it will most probably constitute 40% of my portfolio as I see it at this time. Another thing I will be looking into is the Isreali oil companies, 30% stock interest maybe. I've got a friend that is a geoligist, his speciality is finding oil pockets and apparently is really good at it as all the big players keep him busy all over the world. He has told a few of us about typography maps and sonic resinator checks in Northern Isreal show promise beyond what most could dream would ever be there. Green energy and natural gas producing land is always a good investment. My answer I guess, would be best stated as I plan on investing my majority into natural rescources. More people in the world + resources coming up short= higher demand, which in turn translates into profit. Simple bearer certificates I don't like... I will just have to see how it plays out and go from there I guess... Here's to hoping!

Good observation smee2. I remember a joke a while back that went something like; There are 90 million people in America, 30% are retired, that leaves 60 million to do the work. One third of the 60 million of our population left are incarcerated in our prisons, that leaves 40 million to do the work.50% of the 40 million left are children, leaving 10 million to do the work. One half of the 10 million are on public assistance, that leaves 5 million to do the work. One fifth of the 5 million are hurt or in the hospital, this leaves 4 million to do the work. Out of the 4 million left, 50% are politicians or are employed by the govt., that leaves 2 million people to do the work. Out of those 2 million people, 50% are stay at home moms or are women on paternity leave, that leaves 1 million people to do the work. Out of those 1 million people, 50% are on vacation, that leaves 500k to do the work. Out of those 500k left, 50% are on their days off, that leaves 250k to do the work. Out of those 250k left , 249k are on their lunch which leaves me and you... and I'm on my break so get to work! LOL... It's going to be difficult to get the 50% going in one direction and the other 50% going in the opposite direction to unite to move in one direction, working together. It will be hard to do with all the kaos going on. We need a pivotal point to unite and move foward on.

Brother, I really don't know, like I said earlier, my holdings on the dinar are so small compared to most that the IRS would barley notice if this thing were to go off at 6 plus dollars per dinar in my case. I'll hit a very small lick if it comes in at a dollar, enough to get me out of debt, which would be good enough for me, even though I would much rather see it come in on the higher end. I know a lot of people in OK that are holding several hundred million of this currency. I'm not judging, but I wouldn't have done what some of them have done to get their holdings up to those numbers like second mortgages, ect... I know for a fact that this particular friend owns the equivalent of a full pallet of this currency and he has it held by the bank in some manner. How he has them holding it for him I have no clue. I know it can't be an active situation because the currency is not live and actively traded, but many of the banks in Tulsa are selling it, so it would only stand to reason they would have a way to hold your investment if they are willing to sell it to their customers. He said it was part of his money market account. Maybe he just meant it is a large part of his portfolio. Like I said before, he has no reason to lie to me, he doesn't stand to gain anything from telling me, or not telling me anything other than letting me know things he finds interesting, knowing I'm invested too. All be it in a much smaller capacity. Maybe he thinks since he does have so much, that he can pass on info that I wouldn't otherwise get because my holdings are so small compared to his and others that are my friends that are heavily invested in the dinar. I'm just glad he doesn't mind telling me the info that gets passed his way. I don't mind sharing it on here as long as he, they don't mind me doing so. I just hope it alludes to something good in the near future.

Agreed...

Just so tired of the what ifs.... I have my own (theory) on the lop, ect... the bottom line is we won't know until it actually happens. I just don't see them introducing new denoms and basically voiding the higher denoms. I see them phasing them out, but what do I know, or what do you know for that matter. I would rather dream about winning the jackpot on my lotto ticket than being happy about just getting a little bit more than my money back, no matter how unrealistic that may be. No one buys a lotto ticket thinking, " I hope I just break even in this and get my dollar back". If that's the case, why cause yourself the extra stress? The odds are way more in your favor with the dinar.

It's all good surfer, I couldn't believe he got voted in the first time. Charisma??? He was a good talker, but was definitely not the best candidate. People are looking for and need change, he preached what they wanted to hear, he got voted in and it's been a steeper slope down hill ever since. Maybe next time the people will vote for a proven track record than buying into lip service. I agree, if people play into emotion instead of common sense, we're in for a bad stretch of track...

Yeah Tommy, price hasn't really changed with them, same fluctuations. The note that the dinar may revalue has been there for a bit. That's all I could see. If there is something I'm missing please point it out. Thanks for the post.

Yeah I know... I'm in Little Rock, AR, family is from KC, MO. I've lived in Dallas for 5 yrs and Tulsa, OK for 6 before that. Things have been brutal... I made it a point years ago not to stick the screws to others for the almighty dollar. It's a karma thing for me. Unfortunately the ushering of the 80's showed that many have let greed take over their lives. Small business should get the tax cuts, we should have a fair, flat tax that 'everyone' pays and our US currency should have never left a gold standard or precious metal backed standard. I've watched KC turn into a shell, sad really... Would love to see our manufacturing get back on line. Would love to grab some of KC's former stockyard property and see if we couldn't make something happen. The bottom line is finding the product to produce in this tumultuous, business environment. I really would like to be able to get debt free, help some folks that really need it, start something to be proud of and make a difference. I absolutely love the fried ravioli from the 'Hill'!!!! Yeah, I'm sorry to see St. Louis going down. Part of that can be blamed on greed with the corporate raiders and Carl Icon destroying TWA. American Airlines just added the final kick to that airline and airport. That was too bad, because I really liked that airport. It will be tough, but maybe SouthWest can keep STL alive... My heart goes out brother...

LOL, then you find tomorrow the joint is closed!

Sorry brother, I understand! Most of us were on this ship before it ever had dinar in the belly. Hang in, we'll pull through one way or another, just would like to have my new shoes and that fishing boat I've always wanted. Chin up, it will get better!

Your world, the world, our economy... 'PFOOT'... Yep, and the fire's too hot to put your hand in to grab that change out of the fire pit, better find a stick... Your kids future education, still haven't paid mine off yet after 43 years and I have girls... Ugh.... wedding costs and not even done with the ex for another 6 years...at least. Bleeding money I tell ya! Like Billy Joels song 'We didn't Start The Fire', good song and so true, you aught to YouTube it. Doesn't matter, we gotta figure out how to put it out before it burns the whole neighborhood down! A nation of Xanax, yeah, we need calm, but have no time to do it the right way. If you're on here and don't understand the rant, hold on, you will soon enough. If your my age or older you wish you didnt, but unfortunately you do.... LOL, Irony... YES! WE ARE CLOSER THAN WE HAVE EVER BEEN!!! Still don't really know what that means other than soon... I'll just trough in my guess... Next week??? Monday maybe??? I want the foo foo drink with the umbrella in it, we need to plan a convention at some really nice place... Then get to business and form some capital venture groups to move some mountains... Oh, and I really do need some new shoes, LOL...

Now their saying many banks will be open in Monday... here's for hope and another thing that makes you go Hmmmm.... I just wanted to say he told me today that it is a money market account he has had through them. Take it or leave it for what it's worth. That was his answer.

Just another thing that makes you go Hmmmm... Banks are usually closed on presidents day I thought...

Just a guess, but probably several hundred thousand us worth. BA is his bank, I'm sure he has several accounts with them... Why would I know anything more about his personal business than what he chooses to tell me? Ridiculous where these things go... Just telling you guys what he said be was told.

It's one of the BA's in Tulsa, Ok is all I know.

All I know is my buddy has a 'HUGE' amount of dinar. At todays rate it would probably be enough to buy several rental properties. I am sorry about BA being rude, they won't get my business either, Arvest in my home town will. With all his holdings, many rental properties he purchased years ago, with BA, I'm sure they cater to him a bit. My own holdings are what I could afford, so my little bit won't excite any bank most probably, no matter what the rate comes in at. Even though it was a lot for me, I'm by no means a big dog in this investment. All I have to say is every little bit helps.

Me too. He doesn't have any reason to lie to me. He has been working all the OT he can get to buy more of the stuff. He has gone as far as taking the next three days off. LOL, not that a few days off will hurt him, he's needs some time off, he's been working all the OT he could get for the past 3 years. I had to ask him how much was enough at one point and he laughed at me and said exactly... I asked what happens if this thing never happens, even though I believe it will. He told me in that case, he will have the most expensive wallpaper in the history of wallpaper! He's got a big house.... LOL

Fist let me say I know, I know, another one of those. I get tired of he said she said too. I found a conversation with a friend from Tulsa interesting and just thought I'd pass it on, probably means nothing, but interesting none the less. My friend in Tulsa got a call this morning from the Bank of America. He has been single his whole life and has never had any vices, accept for a little to much love for food, lol. He's an awsome guy none the less. My point being is that he has invested more than most of us could probably imagine in the dinar and would not even venture a guess at how much he holds. He has an account at BA just for his substantial dinar holdings. The BA currency manager called from BA's headquarters, whenever that is, and asked all the questions to verify that he was indeed talking to my friend. The money manager then tells my buddy that he hopes that BA has met all his expectations and that he will continue to bank with them as he is soon to become one of their premier customers. Don't know what it means, no date, no rate.... Seems to be a good sign though.

Thanks smee2, I appreciate it.

Thanks primalnick, he was a good man as most of us on the line, that I have come across, have been. I am hoping to see this thing POP for all of us soon as well.

Today I got a text from a friend and former co-worker. It was simple and to the point, Matt died, thought you should know...... Things like that make you take a step back to catch your breathe. You see, working on the ramp for a major airline is a sub-culture. We are basically sky nomads, semi-transients. Most of us are over qualified for the job, but have different reasons for why we are there doing the job. Mine was a bad ex, many of us have one or more of those, but it allowed me to fly to see my children instead of having to drive the better part of 2 days one way to get to see them. I got hurt and am having to fight the airline to get my back fixed in order to move on. Matt got displaced and lived on my couch for 3 months before being able to get his family to Dallas. He was always there to trade shifts or what ever needed to get done in order to get me time off for me to see my kids when I had trouble getting shifts covered. He was a very good person. He and his wife were raising several children they had adopted from abusive households plus there two children. He passed on Valentines day from cancer at the age of 42 yrs of age, which I'm sure came from breathing aluminium dust that accumulated in the belly of the planes we loaded, the spent fuel dust that coats everything and asbestos found in every airport. My point is we are close to this RV. Many of us need it. It has potential that is as good, if not better, than any stock I've been invested in. It will happen soon. You see, perspective and today is precious. He assumed just 4 months ago he we as healthy as we perceive ourselves to be today. I know this RV will happen, but for today and probably tomorrow I'll make a quick check and do my best to try to live and enjoy the time I have and this dream for another day. It's better odds than a lotto ticket. As far as my friend goes, may God embrace you on your new journey my friend, rest in peace my brother...

Another thing I don't understand is all the empty prisons around our country that were paid for by our tax dollars. Another YouTube search, but look up ' Fema camps', and 'American concentration camps'. Just more scary stuff and bad legislation...